The far right

[Milltown Row2]

It was great to see him/her making a right oul xenophobic racist floot out of him/herself

Haha

You're going out to work every day and paying taxes that are subsidizing welfare for Roma Gypsies and other welfare tourists

If you guys are looking for fools....start by taking a look in the mirroe

How much you paying taxes to look after 11 million illegal immigrants? 

I'm paying it under protest/

You are paying it willingly

Im in favor of greatly reducing the amount

You are in favor of greatly increasing the amount (through your support of open borders and nauseous virtue signaling )

I'm paying it under protest 

You are a nob and continue to be shown to be a nob with all your posts

I'm happy to take in refugee's over you any day of the week. You are filth

[whitey]

It was great to see him/her making a right oul xenophobic racist floot out of him/herself

Haha

You're going out to work every day and paying taxes that are subsidizing welfare for Roma Gypsies and other welfare tourists

If you guys are looking for fools....start by taking a look in the mirroe

How much you paying taxes to look after 11 million illegal immigrants? 

I'm paying it under protest/

You are paying it willingly

Im in favor of greatly reducing the amount

You are in favor of greatly increasing the amount (through your support of open borders and nauseous virtue signaling )

I'm paying it under protest 

You are a nob and continue to be shown to be a nob with all your posts

I'm happy to take in refugee's over you any day of the week. You are filth

https://www.irishtimes.com/crime-law/courts/2024/01/24/wife-and-two-brothers-of-jozef-puska-to-go-on-trial-in-2025-accused-of-failing-to-disclose-information-to-gardai/


Maybe you could take these poor crathurs in?

[Rossfan]

People* come here,they get jobs, they pay PAYE, PRSI, USC,VAT, Rent/mortgages, buy stuff etc etc.

*
1- From the neighbouring island or the EU;
2 via work permits/visas;
3 - as IP applicants.
All LEGAL.
Any public money spent on accommodation for 3 stays in the Economy.

There are allegations that some people are here illegally.
Some estimates around 16,000. Most of those probably trafficked for Prostitution and grow houses.
They get no State assistance as they legally don't exist.

[From the Bunker]

[From the Bunker]

Ballaghaderreen and the strangely coded way we discuss crime now

November 4, 2024 Niamh Uí Bhriain GRIPT

A serious assault on a 15-year-old boy allegedly took place in Ballaghaderreen in Co Roscommon last week. The story has been curiously absent from almost all of national media reporting, who seem otherwise occupied with criminal damage to Minister Roderic O'Gorman's clipboard.

This article is not about the assault in Ballaghaderreen, though locals are horrified at the nature of what is said to have happened, because a Garda investigation is ongoing and until the facts are confirmed there is little point in speculation or engaging in any actions that might, in fact, jeopardise a trial.

But what has taken place both before and since the night the assault happened has highlighted something different: the strangely coded way we now discuss rising crime and social disorder in relation to immigration.

Despite the opinion polls which show an overwhelming majority of people feel that Ireland has taken in too many migrants, its evident that, especially when a microphone or camera is in front of them, Irish people are nervous about how their views might be perceived. Much of this is likely due to the plethora of NGOs and political and/or media commentators who are always ready to pounce with shrieks of 'racism' and 'misinformation' on any suggestion that locals might feel concerned regarding large numbers of strangers, often men, being foisted on towns or villages or already-stretched urban communities.

This desire to curtail speech, and to dictate that some truths cannot be expressed aloud, comes from the top down, and is lapped up by a compliant and ideologically-captured media. When the independent TD Carol Nolan, for example, pointed out an obvious truth in the Dáil regarding Ireland's inability to take unlimited numbers of refugees, she was denounced by Minister Darragh O'Brien as being a threat to social cohesion, when, of course, what has transpired is that the government's reckless and idiotic policies in regard to migration has actually had that effect.

There are many, many other such examples, such as the Junior Minister Joe O'Brien of the Greens accusing people who opposed asylum accommodation centres of racism, and the steady drumbeat of accusations from groups like the Immigrant Council or the Institute of Strategic Dialogue. When the establishment is out to chase you with a big stick for stating the obvious, people learnt to speak in code.

So to Ballaghaderreen where a large crowd of people marched last Sunday to demand that the Garda station in the town be open on a continuous basis, and that more Gardaí be stationed to deal with rising crime in the area.

The situation has been deteriorating for some time, apparently. In 2022, the Roscommon Leader Partnership wrote to the Joint Policing Committee with details of a rise in anti-social behaviour, incidents of indecent exposure as well as volatile situations at local homes, with a local Councillor saying more Garda resources were needed in the town to tackle an increase in crime due to an "influx of people living in the area".

In the excellent and comprehensive news reports by Shannonside on the issue from last Sunday this increase in population was referred to repeatedly by locals, but no-one seemed to want to say out loud what had caused the rise in numbers living in the town, which, as we will see, is not caused by large crowds arriving from Leitrim or estates being packed up by gangs of Dubs.

"The population of the town has increased by, I think 30%, over the last couple of years," one woman at the protest said.

"Too many crimes," one woman told Shannonside, including crimes that "no-one talked about". She said that things had got much worse with the "rise in population in Ballaghaderreen". Another woman said the town was changing and that young people no longer felt safe.

Sharon Byrne-Murphy said that the Concerned Citizens group was established because of concerns about the "over population" of the town and "the lack of resources for the people that are already here".

She said that the town was witnessing an "ever-increasing" rise in the population and said: "obviously with that in any community there's going to be be  an increased incidence of crime and anti-social behaviour".  She added that there was a real sense of fear in the community, which had been "bubbling away in the background for a while", and that women were now afraid to go out walking, pointing to "the vandalism, the dumping, the general anti-social behaviour" in the town.

So what has led to the surge in population in Ballaghaderreen? As you might have guessed, given the previous depletion of rural Ireland and our falling birth rate, the rise is numbers is largely due to immigration.

In 2016, the population of the town was around 1,800 and had been at that level for around a decade. The 2022 census showed that number soaring to 2,387, an increase of 32% in just 4 years. That same census shows that 39% of the population of the town was not born there. In relative terms these are enormous changes.

240 Syrian refugees arrived in Ballaghaderreen in 2017, an event which prompted a TV3 documentary on local efforts to welcome the newcomers called Ireland's Refugee Hotel: True Lives. The Census and reports from local people also indicates large numbers of Roma and some Eastern Europeans have moved to the town. Help and additional resources were promised by the government, but very little arrived, locals say.

The strain began to tell on the town, described by local TD Claire Kerrane as "the most economically and socially deprived town in County Roscommon".

She said the population increased substantially, from 2017 onwards, as "about 400 refugees and international protection families and individuals" came to the town which got "zero support from Government".

By 2022, the town was appealing for Gardaí, as noted above, to to tackle an increase in crime due to an "influx of people living in the area", and when a proposal was made earlier this year to build modular homes to house another 200 refugees, an astonishing 400 objections were made. Ballaghaderreen had become a "dumping ground" for refugees, a townhall meeting heard, and the town had got "nothing in return".

Its clear, therefore, that the "rise in population" that locals say is the cause of increased crime is happening mostly because of immigration. So why is everyone afraid to speak plainly on this issue?

It is dishonest and deeply disingenuous to suggest that people are being racist if they observe what is happening in their own communities. It is also a fact of life as shown by recent studies across Europe, such as in Sweden, Denmark and Germany that those countries experienced a rise in the proportion of non-western migrants represented in crime statistics, with Denmark reporting that  non-western immigrants were found guilty of crimes of violence at 3.13 times the rate of Danes.

The reason why we can't point to such figures for Ireland is that the government fails to publish these important statistics. Crime is not reported according to nationality or race. It's as if the authorities think a country with soaring immigration rates shouldn't want to even question whether there's a possible impact on crime.

Neither is it racist to say that transient populations can be more unsettled, and a failure to integrate seems to make said populations more susceptible to criminality and anti-social behaviour. That applies to transient populations in general, not to the colour of a person's skin, or the country of origin.

In fact, there's a smack of real racism in the kind of nonsense parroted by NGOs and their allies that denies that in every large grouping of people there will always be a certain small proportion of  criminals or aggressors or rapists or thieves or persons who engage in anti-social behaviour. It's a ridiculous denial, not only of reality, but of human nature itself.

Some of our hesitancy in commenting around perceived links between an increase in crime and migration is, of course, due to common decency. Many immigrants are decent, hard-working people, and no-one wants to be guilty of tarring a whole community of people with the same brush.

But the system in Ireland is set up to produce the worst possible outcomes. As locals commented from Ballaghaderreen, young men and other individuals are being brought to rural towns in their droves and are then left unemployed, unintegrated, living in housing (which locals feel is then not available to them), and disinterested in the community.

These are problems that must be recognised, confronted and tackled. Speaking in code and talking around the issue as if the rise in population and the rise in crime has nothing to do with immigration is a recipe for disaster that is not helping anyone.

[Milltown Row2]

That view is lost completely when the protests turn violent and targeting people for whom have come from countries which have went through atrocities you couldn't believe

Go target the political parties that have policies in place to prevent or at least control it.

[marty34]

Good chance in 3 weeks to cast a vote.

Housing is still the major issue.  Bluffer O'Brien will hopefully be put out to pasture and some one more creative and imaginative who's willing to tackle the 10 year old crisis head on.

A generation of family members still living with their parents.  A severe lack of teachers in Dublin and on the eastern seaboard. A lack of SNA's.

Education system is a mess.
Health system is a mess.
A 'cost of living' crisis.

But don't worry, MM will get a nice photo op. in Israel.   

[Rossfan]

Are you advocating we all vote for the nazifascists or did you just post on the wrong thread?

In the 26 Cos individual Ministers don't have policies.
They implement Government policies.
Changing a bluffer makes no difference.

[rodney trotter]

The 16 year old killed in the hit and run in kildare , was by a Romanian national 2 weeks in the Country.

[Rossfan]

Good they've caught him but is he a far right individual seeing as you posted it in this thread?
Meanwhile a Scotsman was jailed yesterday for making bombs in Kerry.

[rodney trotter]

Good they've caught him but is he a far right individual seeing as you posted it in this thread?
Meanwhile a Scotsman was jailed yesterday for making bombs in Kerry.

No idea ..but its cases like that is why people are fed up with the open door policy. 
You have said on the thread to keep bringing people in. How do you expect hospitals to cope? since they are understaffed as it is

[Rossfan]

EU and GB people can come here anytime they want.
Wecare not leaving the EU or the CTA.
Are all foreigners in bad health?

[rodney trotter]

EU and GB people can come here anytime they want.
Wecare not leaving the EU or the CTA.
Are all foreigners in bad health?

Obviously not all in bad health, but more people creates more pressure. There is plenty of people waiting for beds stuck on trolleys


https://www.irishexaminer.com/news/munster/arid-41370100.html

[Rossfan]

If wev had a "closed door policy" to foreigners the trolley Qs would be 3 times as bad as there would bexserious staff shortages 

[rodney trotter]

If wev had a "closed door policy" to foreigners the trolley Qs would be 3 times as bad as there would bexserious staff shortages 

Recruiting staff for hospitals is normal. Bringing in every Tom Dick and Harry is different with no idea of their background