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Do they not give cards anymore for denying a goal scoring opportunity,remember gough sending players off in the past for this

3 kerry screaming into Armagh player on the ground.  Pat Spillane used to be crying when same done to kerry boys on noughties.

Paidí Clifford is a mouthy fkcer

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3 kerry screaming into Armagh player on the ground.  Pat Spillane used to be crying when same done to kerry boys on noughties.

Paidí Clifford is a mouthy fkcer

At this stage I'm sick of listening to O'Rourke complaining about the new rules after every game.
He was on the FRC committee and had his chance to have his say.
Very few other coaches or players (bar Murphy) had the chance to influence the rules to the extent he had. He got what he voted for.

I have a concern around orourke in that he helped set up the rules and I thought his insight would benefit tyrone however this hasn't really happened. Also I assumed that
Tyrone would get a new manager bounce even if short term but again this didn't happen

New manager bounce! That's a new one on me! Like David Moyes?
I'd put very little stock in the league, some best players missing for first few games. If we avoid relegation that do rightly.

You never seen a team performance increase for even a short while after a new manager comes in. Happens quite often.

Players wanted rid of previous management so you would expect a increase in performance even if it was just to show the new manager what they can offer. This hasn't really happened.

At this stage I'm sick of listening to O'Rourke complaining about the new rules after every game.
He was on the FRC committee and had his chance to have his say.
Very few other coaches or players (bar Murphy) had the chance to influence the rules to the extent he had. He got what he voted for.

I have a concern around orourke in that he helped set up the rules and I thought his insight would benefit tyrone however this hasn't really happened. Also I assumed that
Tyrone would get a new manager bounce even if short term but again this didn't happen

Not sure how they managed to throw away that game. Inconsistencies still a big issue with tyrone

[Clifford is arguably the only inside forward who is definitely above Darragh C.]

Ask the simple question, are the players there. Take out the 2 Canavans, what left up front?

I struggle to think of many other counties that have a set of inside forwards like Bradley, McShane, McCurry, Canavan x2 and McElholm?

Obviously all in varying form, but they've shown it in the past or have big potential.

Clifford is arguably the only inside forward who is definitely above Darragh C.

Clifford, Sean O'Shea, Conn O'Callaghan, Shane Walsh, Rian O'Neill, Oisin Gallen, Shane McGuigan.
Would any of the top teams swap their marquee forward for Darragh, I don't think they would.
Mayo are the only top team who haven't a forward as good or better than Darragh Canavan.
You could do this with any of our forwards - McCurry/McBrearty McElholm/Murray Bradley/Basquel McShane/Murnin Ruairi Canavan/Finnerty.
We haven't got an elite forward line when we compare with the other Division 1 teams.

Why are you comparing individual Tyrone forwards against a selection of inside forwards

Ask the simple question, are the players there. Take out the 2 Canavans, what left up front?

I struggle to think of many other counties that have a set of inside forwards like Bradley, McShane, McCurry, Canavan x2 and McElholm?

Obviously all in varying form, but they've shown it in the past or have big potential.

Clifford is arguably the only inside forward who is definitely above Darragh C.

You are so f**king deluded 

Bradley has never done anything of note in a Tyrone Jersey despite numerous chances

McShane had 1 decent season. Decent is all it was.

McCurry decent on his day

D Cav very good

R Cav has done nothing of note in a Tyrone Jersey

McElholm - all this talk and has been poor on each game to date

McShane in his "decent all it was" season was top scorer in 2019 and an all star in FF, a year after playing midfield in an all Ireland final. The same McShane who then came back from serious injury to score goals in the all Ireland semi and the final in 2021. Not bad
McCurry decent on his day 😂😂😂
Judging mcelhom on what? About 100 minutes of adult football?


Some sh1t in this forum

from other counties?

I'm comparing the inside forwards as a set, you should compare against other counties' sets of inside forwards.

Ask the simple question, are the players there. Take out the 2 Canavans, what left up front?

I struggle to think of many other counties that have a set of inside forwards like Bradley, McShane, McCurry, Canavan x2 and McElholm?

Obviously all in varying form, but they've shown it in the past or have big potential.

Clifford is arguably the only inside forward who is definitely above Darragh C.

You are so f**king deluded 

Bradley has never done anything of note in a Tyrone Jersey despite numerous chances

McShane had 1 decent season. Decent is all it was.

McCurry decent on his day

D Cav very good

R Cav has done nothing of note in a Tyrone Jersey

McElholm - all this talk and has been poor on each game to date

McShane in his "decent all it was" season was top scorer in 2019 and an all star in FF, a year after playing midfield in an all Ireland final. The same McShane who then came back from serious injury to score goals in the all Ireland semi and the final in 2021. Not bad
McCurry decent on his day 😂😂😂
Judging mcelhom on what? About 100 minutes of adult football?


Some sh1t in this forum

Some people just love to whine and run down players and teams.

McShane only really had one good season in a Tyrone jersey, but it was an exceptional season. I sincerely doubt we'll see him hit anywhere near those heights again, but that and his form since 2019, doesn't change how good he was then.

Let's be honest, he got a massive package to stay based off 1 season and its about time he lived up to it. Needs to hit proper form and justify it.

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100% and no one is arguing otherwise however with the current rules you can afford to lose 2 players and not be negativity impacted is just stupid and needs changed.

Of course they were negatively impacted. In Kerry's case they either had to attack with two fewer players or they had to leave two Tyrone forwards scot free on the half way line and be screwed by a quick kickpass if they lost possession. In attack they can't transition quick because they're outnumbered 3 to 1 on the far side of the field

Obviously it's less of a negative impact than it was last year, that's undebateable. However if you change the rule and the penalized team must keep 3 up and back then it becomes a much greater impact than last year

Not saying one is right or one is wrong. The team I support generally has an excellent disciplinary record so I should probably be wanting the latter

Not saying Tyrone are a dirty team in the slightest but their displinary record would be slightly worse than the D1 average for the past few years. It's a case of careful what you wish for

If you can lose 2 men and can still defend with the same number of people as the attacking team then you are not impacted. All kerry had to do in that 10 min period was to slow the game down and not concede any points which they successfully did. They they are back up to full strength.

The point of losing players is so that there is a reward for the more disciplined team e.g a greater chance of scoring which there no longer is.

Also these rules changes were supposed to speed up the game. Now any team with a few men down will simply sit back and defend with the same number of players as the attacking team.

So effectively Tyrone's 15 v Kerry's 13 yesterday was really 13 v 13 because Tyrone had to keep 3 players back.
Hence the lack of Tyrone killer punch in that key 50th-60th minute period. The two black cards didn't really have much effect.
Kerry played better & managed the rules better during that 10 minutes.

Is that correct though? Surely Tyrone didn't need to keep 3 players back if Kerry only needed to keep one in the forward line. Do the rules not allow you to take the risk of playing all 15 players in the opposition half if you choose?

That's the rules. The full team need to keep 3 back at all times, the team with lesser numbers gets to drop players back. Completely stupid when you think these rules have been thought about for 1 year and no one thought about this.

That's mad considering the rule changes were to encourage players taking more risk, but they are prevented from doing so in this case

Yip completely mad. When kerry went down to 13 players Tyrone had only 12 players to attack with, as they had to keep 3 back. Kerry even though 2 men down could afford to defend with 12 men against tyrones 12 attackers. If Tyrone didn't bring morgan forward they would be attacking with 11 against 12 kerry defenders.

I think losing the game was a Tyrone mismanagement thing rather than looking to the rules? 

100% and no one is arguing otherwise however with the current rules you can afford to lose 2 players and not be negativity impacted is just stupid and needs changed.

So effectively Tyrone's 15 v Kerry's 13 yesterday was really 13 v 13 because Tyrone had to keep 3 players back.
Hence the lack of Tyrone killer punch in that key 50th-60th minute period. The two black cards didn't really have much effect.
Kerry played better & managed the rules better during that 10 minutes.

Is that correct though? Surely Tyrone didn't need to keep 3 players back if Kerry only needed to keep one in the forward line. Do the rules not allow you to take the risk of playing all 15 players in the opposition half if you choose?

That's the rules. The full team need to keep 3 back at all times, the team with lesser numbers gets to drop players back. Completely stupid when you think these rules have been thought about for 1 year and no one thought about this.

That's mad considering the rule changes were to encourage players taking more risk, but they are prevented from doing so in this case

Yip completely mad. When kerry went down to 13 players Tyrone had only 12 players to attack with, as they had to keep 3 back. Kerry even though 2 men down could afford to defend with 12 men against tyrones 12 attackers. If Tyrone didn't bring morgan forward they would be attacking with 11 against 12 kerry defenders.

So effectively Tyrone's 15 v Kerry's 13 yesterday was really 13 v 13 because Tyrone had to keep 3 players back.
Hence the lack of Tyrone killer punch in that key 50th-60th minute period. The two black cards didn't really have much effect.
Kerry played better & managed the rules better during that 10 minutes.

Is that correct though? Surely Tyrone didn't need to keep 3 players back if Kerry only needed to keep one in the forward line. Do the rules not allow you to take the risk of playing all 15 players in the opposition half if you choose?

That's the rules. The full team need to keep 3 back at all times, the team with lesser numbers gets to drop players back. Completely stupid when you think these rules have been thought about for 1 year and no one thought about this.

Am I being harsh if I said Morgan could have done better for the goals?

The entire defence could have done better.

The art of tackling seems completely lost. Seems that players are going for the man rather than the ball, to interested in pushing the player rather than going for the ball.


I think it was the 2nd Clifford goal where he held the ball out in front of him  and niall devlin stood looking at him waiting for Clifford to make a move instead of going directly for the ball.

If a player ducks down and there is contact with the head then it's not the defenders fault. Donegal player turned and ducked down which led to the contact although it did look a fair shoulder to shoulder.

Tyrone continually poor

Game on live TG4 as hurling game was cancelled..

Will it be in the tg4 player after it?

Has anyone else heard that the game was moved from Omagh due to a fall out between Martin Sludden and Conor Sally?

What was the reason for the fallout?