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Still think there'll be a number of easy groups due to the dearth of quality teams around at the minute. Derry could yet end up in a group where they are the best team. One of Louth/Meath are supposedly a top 4 team and one of Louth/Meath and Clare are supposedly a top 8 team.

There's some seriously poor teams around at the minute. Tyrone, Mayo, Dublin, Kerry, Monaghan and Derry are all shadows of the teams they've fielded over the last 10 years. Which would be no bad thing if their was a few 2nd tier teams coming up to challenge them but Roscommon, Cavan, Down, Fermanagh, Laois, Clare, Cork and Westmeath are all standing still if not in regression.

If they've said " kill your MP" then they are idiots though. No need for that given 2 MPs have been killed in that last few years by extremists.

Flicked it over to watch a bitta football.. is there a sponsored silence going on?

Don't say that, don't you know the new rules have cured all.

Why don't you all just shut up whinging  about refereeing and just enjoy watching football?

We can't anymore because of the referring. I'm now watching the hurling because you couldn't look at football this year.

Bizarre how the referee cheerleaders just try to shut down discussion rather than argue out the points. Seems the idea that any dissent, no matter how valid, needs to be silenced. The GAA taking a leaf out of the North Korean playbook.

These overcarrying calls this weekend have been ridiculous

Ruining the game.

Golden boy Murphy no card for pulling Magill down?

How's it ruining the game?

They're not frees in any man's language. Be done for a week to shit a couple of teams and be forgot about again once there's a final on the line.

You could prove right. But if it's here to stay then it'll improve the game. It's not possible to defend one on one against modern powerhouse forwards, unless 4 steps are monitored.

You and me both agree it's not here to stay. So it's just a completely frustrating sideshow for players and fans for 1 weekend. Remember a few weeks ago they were blowing keepers for taking too long? What happened that? f**k all.

Think it was changed to 30 seconds and "at the referees discretion"

 

Yeah so we'd a week or two of bullshit calls and then a change back to the status quo. exasperation for players, managers and fans and should they voice their frustration it's a 50m free. It's all such total bullshit, game be controlled at committee level.

These overcarrying calls this weekend have been ridiculous

Ruining the game.

Golden boy Murphy no card for pulling Magill down?

How's it ruining the game?

They're not frees in any man's language. Be done for a week to shit a couple of teams and be forgot about again once there's a final on the line.

You could prove right. But if it's here to stay then it'll improve the game. It's not possible to defend one on one against modern powerhouse forwards, unless 4 steps are monitored.

You and me both agree it's not here to stay. So it's just a completely frustrating sideshow for players and fans for 1 weekend. Remember a few weeks ago they were blowing keepers for taking too long? What happened that? f**k all.

These overcarrying calls this weekend have been ridiculous

Ruining the game.

Golden boy Murphy no card for pulling Magill down?

How's it ruining the game?

They're not frees in any man's language. Be done for a week to shit a couple of teams and be forgot about again once there's a final on the line.

Is there anything more jarring than Philly McMahon telling teams they need to kick the ball more? Did he ever kick the ball in his entire career?

Don't believe the hype around MOR, he's been dismal since he's got the job. Some of the decisions all season are just baffling.

How Daly, Oguz, Ruari, O'Donnell and Donaghey are judged to be worth more game time than Peter Harte or Matty Donnelly is just a joke. Likewise he cost us Div 1 status early in the year by not playing Brennan, Sparky or Teague in the opening league rounds and starting with Burns and a load of guys out of position.

Most frustrating of all yesterday was the complete lack of a press strategy. It's really where the game was lost. Armagh got 100% of their kick outs away in the 1st half whilst Tyrone men stood around in a zonal pattern letting them have the ball every time. The management looked at this for 70 mins and never once thought to tell the lads to simply pick a man and mark him for the kick out (precisely what Armagh had done to us and won 50% of our kick outs).

At half time it's was clear that his changes of Oguz and Ruari were a mistake and needed hooked. Yet he gave them another 10 mins of the 2nd half at the end of which we were 6 points down. The game then literally changed once we'd those 2 guys off.

It's a 20 man game, Harte and Donnelly might be better coming in fresh as finishers when someone else has run the ballix off themselves for 50mins

Wouldnt disagree but Petey got 10 mins and Matty got none.

The standing off was driving me insane. Will someone please explain what is wrong with pressing/tackling a man outside the 45? Why do we let teams solo it about midfield unchallenged?

Armagh done that too though. It's the bullshit new rules that has led to such a stale, placid defending.

Don't believe the hype around MOR, he's been dismal since he's got the job. Some of the decisions all season are just baffling.

How Daly, Oguz, Ruari, O'Donnell and Donaghey are judged to be worth more game time than Peter Harte or Matty Donnelly is just a joke. Likewise he cost us Div 1 status early in the year by not playing Brennan, Sparky or Teague in the opening league rounds and starting with Burns and a load of guys out of position.

Most frustrating of all yesterday was the complete lack of a press strategy. It's really where the game was lost. Armagh got 100% of their kick outs away in the 1st half whilst Tyrone men stood around in a zonal pattern letting them have the ball every time. The management looked at this for 70 mins and never once thought to tell the lads to simply pick a man and mark him for the kick out (precisely what Armagh had done to us and won 50% of our kick outs).

At half time it's was clear that his changes of Oguz and Ruari were a mistake and needed hooked. Yet he gave them another 10 mins of the 2nd half at the end of which we were 6 points down. The game then literally changed once we'd those 2 guys off.

Ref's have made mistakes, not a ref out there that thinks any different, but remonstrating like a header comes with it a penalty so why do it?

No one should be allowed to give abuse, I'm not sure what difference it actually did, born outta frustration I get, but channeling it differently is required now

Nicely summed up with refs have no accountability get over it.

I've summoned it up many many times, but I can't teach stupid though..

Ref's are assessed every game and a report given to them, now either you're thick or just being a dick. Probably both

Ironic that your first reaction to be challenged on a message board is to be abusive yet players or managers involved in top level sport who throw up their hands, shout at the ref to say they've been fouled is a yellow card and 50m free.

I see cork scored in the 78th minute. Does that mean there is no hooter in hurling?

Hooter is such bollix.

With all due respect there hasn't really been any real football played in this half with the exception of Thompson's points. It's all overlaps and wrap-around plays. There's very little of players actually taking on their defenders. It's a very very dull spectacle.