Mother and Baby Home Report

Started by Godsown, January 13, 2021, 09:16:15 AM

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Main Street

in Ireland the Catholic Church has acted out as a male superiority religious cult, peddling conspiracy theories and other dogmatic ideologies  based on myth and superstitions. Somehow by dint of their darker evil energies and dogma, they have managed to effect great harm, even generational harm to the social and psychological fabric of the nation.



Baile Brigín 2

Quote from: five points link=topic=29820.msg2029978#msg2029978

Uncorroborated testimony is not evidence.

Unfortunately it was accepted as evidence from the nuns.

Lookit, if you genuinely believe no woman was forced into those homes, not one was physically abused and no money changed hands for the babies,  good for you. But I have some magic beans for sale that might interest you.

Main Street

Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on February 01, 2021, 09:38:40 PM
Quote from: five points link=topic=29820.msg2029978#msg2029978

Uncorroborated testimony is not evidence.

Unfortunately it was accepted as evidence from the nuns.

Lookit, if you genuinely believe no woman was forced into those homes, not one was physically abused and no money changed hands for the babies,  good for you. But I have some magic beans for sale that might interest you.
Witness testimony is evidence. This was not a constitutional court of law. Signed witness testimony is perfectly acceptable as evidence to an inquiry such as this.
The inquiry did not look for evidence of payments,  they just looked at a few random snippets of info that fell into their lap. They obviously did not contact the 549 from Sean Ross that were exchanged for cash to the USA.  Kevin Battle was one of those, was dragged away from his mother and traded for a USD1,000 donation plus adoption fees and travel costs. 
However around 2015, the church (after the shit hit the proverbial)  were perfectly able to contact Kevin and offer him his bona fide Irish birth cert for GBP100
Sean Ross had kept records of the adoptions, all that info was available to our intrepid investigators.
But such magnificent investigative methods that the church could use was beyond the imaginations of the inquiry.

Kevin's story can be found here
don't open the link, it's behind a pay wall, , just download the file  from the link 
https://www.pressherald.com/2018/05/13/he-was-his-mothers-stolen-child/


A travesty of an inquiry that after 5 years  failed even to meet basic standards of respectful decency and end up with an account that not even the mothers can identify with.

restorepride

Quote from: Main Street on February 01, 2021, 10:39:47 PM
Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on February 01, 2021, 09:38:40 PM
Quote from: five points link=topic=29820.msg2029978#msg2029978

Uncorroborated testimony is not evidence.

Unfortunately it was accepted as evidence from the nuns.

Lookit, if you genuinely believe no woman was forced into those homes, not one was physically abused and no money changed hands for the babies,  good for you. But I have some magic beans for sale that might interest you.
Witness testimony is evidence. This was not a constitutional court of law. Signed witness testimony is perfectly acceptable as evidence to an inquiry such as this.
The inquiry did not look for evidence of payments,  they just looked at a few random snippets of info that fell into their lap. They obviously did not contact the 549 from Sean Ross that were exchanged for cash to the USA.  Kevin Battle was one of those, was dragged away from his mother and traded for a USD1,000 donation plus adoption fees and travel costs. 
However around 2015, the church (after the shit hit the proverbial)  were perfectly able to contact Kevin and offer him his bona fide Irish birth cert for GBP100
Sean Ross had kept records of the adoptions, all that info was available to our intrepid investigators.
But such magnificent investigative methods that the church could use was beyond the imaginations of the inquiry.

Kevin's story can be found here
don't open the link, it's behind a pay wall, , just download the file  from the link 
https://www.pressherald.com/2018/05/13/he-was-his-mothers-stolen-child/


A travesty of an inquiry that after 5 years  failed even to meet basic standards of respectful decency and end up with an account that not even the mothers can identify with.
+ 23 - my parents + 9 siblings + 5 children and partners + 4 grandchildren (born in a better Ireland).

Main Street

To think that the commission attempted to destroy the audio recordings of all the statements, but true to form they were not competent enough to even complete that task.
I'm glad this affair is not sinking into obscurity.
Philomena Lee is taking a case to the High Court about breaches of her fundamental human rights and a challenge to the commission's findings that there was 'no evidence' for the opinion of some women that their consent to adoption was not full, free, and informed.

https://www.irishexaminer.com/news/arid-40264436.html