Brexit.

[Keyser soze]

The DUP at this stage will never accept a NI only backstop. So it will have to be called something else.

I would say they would bite the arm off Bozo if he was to offer them this, called another name and with enough tweaks to say it's a completely different deal but the original NI only backstop in all but name.

[trailer]

Boris will face the same problems May had. A minority government at the behest of the DUP. A Labour party with no interest in giving cross party support to a Tory Brexit and an EU administration who have consistently presented a united position on the backstop.
The only if or maybe is when the EU changes leadership in October. But even then I can't see any significant change but it is the Conservatives only hope for a renegotiation.

[bennydorano]

That's the end of the fun & games now, Johnston v Gove would have been great fun to watch. Hunt is a big wet lettuce, unless there's a silent sensible majority of Conservative Party members it will be a cakewalk for BJ. Christ he is a Charalatan of the highest order.

[GJL]

Boris's Brexit plan is just to remove backstop from Withdrawal Agreement. No more and no less.

Will the EU budge in October to get a deal done?

I think he will go for a NI only backstop. The EU would be happy with this also. The DUP obviously won't but they will be under the bus at that stage.

How does he get his deal with a NI only backstop through parliament?

That's the £1Billion pound question.

This is a staggering level of ignorance of the DUP and their position. They will never (and never is a long time) accept an NI only backstop. 1 billion. 10 billion, 100 billion! Doesn't matter!
So given Parliaments arithmetic, I will ask again. How does he get his deal with a NI only backstop through Parliament?

He is already working on an electrol pact with the Brexit Party. He will call a general election where the Brexit party will attack Labour held leave seats. Then will hope for a majority or even get the backing from new Brexit party MPs instead of the DUP MPs.

[trailer]

Boris's Brexit plan is just to remove backstop from Withdrawal Agreement. No more and no less.

Will the EU budge in October to get a deal done?

I think he will go for a NI only backstop. The EU would be happy with this also. The DUP obviously won't but they will be under the bus at that stage.

How does he get his deal with a NI only backstop through parliament?

That's the £1Billion pound question.

This is a staggering level of ignorance of the DUP and their position. They will never (and never is a long time) accept an NI only backstop. 1 billion. 10 billion, 100 billion! Doesn't matter!
So given Parliaments arithmetic, I will ask again. How does he get his deal with a NI only backstop through Parliament?

He is already working on an electrol pact with the Brexit Party. He will call a general election where the Brexit party will attack Labour held leave seats. Then will hope for a majority or even get the backing from new Brexit party MPs instead of the DUP MPs.

I'm not so sure. He hasn't even won the Conservative leadership race and I haven't heard about this pact with Brexit party anywhere.

[GJL]

Boris's Brexit plan is just to remove backstop from Withdrawal Agreement. No more and no less.

Will the EU budge in October to get a deal done?

I think he will go for a NI only backstop. The EU would be happy with this also. The DUP obviously won't but they will be under the bus at that stage.

How does he get his deal with a NI only backstop through parliament?

That's the £1Billion pound question.

This is a staggering level of ignorance of the DUP and their position. They will never (and never is a long time) accept an NI only backstop. 1 billion. 10 billion, 100 billion! Doesn't matter!
So given Parliaments arithmetic, I will ask again. How does he get his deal with a NI only backstop through Parliament?

He is already working on an electrol pact with the Brexit Party. He will call a general election where the Brexit party will attack Labour held leave seats. Then will hope for a majority or even get the backing from new Brexit party MPs instead of the DUP MPs.

I'm not so sure. He hasn't even won the Conservative leadership race and I haven't heard about this pact with Brexit party anywhere.

Michael Portello is of the opinion that this is what will happen

[LeoMc]

Boris's Brexit plan is just to remove backstop from Withdrawal Agreement. No more and no less.

Will the EU budge in October to get a deal done?

I think he will go for a NI only backstop. The EU would be happy with this also. The DUP obviously won't but they will be under the bus at that stage.

How does he get his deal with a NI only backstop through parliament?

That's the £1Billion pound question.

This is a staggering level of ignorance of the DUP and their position. They will never (and never is a long time) accept an NI only backstop. 1 billion. 10 billion, 100 billion! Doesn't matter!
So given Parliaments arithmetic, I will ask again. How does he get his deal with a NI only backstop through Parliament?

He is already working on an electrol pact with the Brexit Party. He will call a general election where the Brexit party will attack Labour held leave seats. Then will hope for a majority or even get the backing from new Brexit party MPs instead of the DUP MPs.

I'm not so sure. He hasn't even won the Conservative leadership race and I haven't heard about this pact with Brexit party anywhere.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2019/06/16/exclusive-conservative-donors-open-secret-talks-nigel-farage/

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/tory-donors-in-secret-talks-16529947

https://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/1141248/Brexit-latest-Nigel-Farage-news-Tory-donor-talks-general-election-pact-Brexit-party

https://www.theneweuropean.co.uk/top-stories/brexit-party-claim-talks-with-tory-donors-1-6036368

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/9309594/tories-pact-nigel-farage-general-election-johnson/

Your welcome.

[Franko]

Boris's Brexit plan is just to remove backstop from Withdrawal Agreement. No more and no less.

Will the EU budge in October to get a deal done?

I think he will go for a NI only backstop. The EU would be happy with this also. The DUP obviously won't but they will be under the bus at that stage.

How does he get his deal with a NI only backstop through parliament?

That's the £1Billion pound question.

This is a staggering level of ignorance of the DUP and their position. They will never (and never is a long time) accept an NI only backstop. 1 billion. 10 billion, 100 billion! Doesn't matter!
So given Parliaments arithmetic, I will ask again. How does he get his deal with a NI only backstop through Parliament?

Nonsense, the DUP will do anything if the price is right.

[trailer]

Boris's Brexit plan is just to remove backstop from Withdrawal Agreement. No more and no less.

Will the EU budge in October to get a deal done?

I think he will go for a NI only backstop. The EU would be happy with this also. The DUP obviously won't but they will be under the bus at that stage.

How does he get his deal with a NI only backstop through parliament?

That's the £1Billion pound question.

This is a staggering level of ignorance of the DUP and their position. They will never (and never is a long time) accept an NI only backstop. 1 billion. 10 billion, 100 billion! Doesn't matter!
So given Parliaments arithmetic, I will ask again. How does he get his deal with a NI only backstop through Parliament?

He is already working on an electrol pact with the Brexit Party. He will call a general election where the Brexit party will attack Labour held leave seats. Then will hope for a majority or even get the backing from new Brexit party MPs instead of the DUP MPs.

I'm not so sure. He hasn't even won the Conservative leadership race and I haven't heard about this pact with Brexit party anywhere.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2019/06/16/exclusive-conservative-donors-open-secret-talks-nigel-farage/

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/tory-donors-in-secret-talks-16529947

https://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/1141248/Brexit-latest-Nigel-Farage-news-Tory-donor-talks-general-election-pact-Brexit-party

https://www.theneweuropean.co.uk/top-stories/brexit-party-claim-talks-with-tory-donors-1-6036368

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/9309594/tories-pact-nigel-farage-general-election-johnson/

Your welcome.

I would invite you to read the content of those articles. They don't amount to a hill of beans.

A source close to the talks told the newspaper they were "very preliminary", adding "you have to get Boris on board and that is going to be very tricky".
Boris Johnson ally James Cleverly played down talk of a pact today but didn't rule one out.
He said Mr Johnson didn't make pacts as Mayor of London so "I can't imagine" he will do so now.

If the Tories entered into an electoral pact with the Brexit party it would be electoral suicide.
The DUP will never support a NI only backstop. There is no price that they would consider. Anyone who thinks there is, is deluded.

[johnnycool]

Boris's Brexit plan is just to remove backstop from Withdrawal Agreement. No more and no less.

Will the EU budge in October to get a deal done?

I think he will go for a NI only backstop. The EU would be happy with this also. The DUP obviously won't but they will be under the bus at that stage.

How does he get his deal with a NI only backstop through parliament?

That's the £1Billion pound question.

This is a staggering level of ignorance of the DUP and their position. They will never (and never is a long time) accept an NI only backstop. 1 billion. 10 billion, 100 billion! Doesn't matter!
So given Parliaments arithmetic, I will ask again. How does he get his deal with a NI only backstop through Parliament?

He is already working on an electrol pact with the Brexit Party. He will call a general election where the Brexit party will attack Labour held leave seats. Then will hope for a majority or even get the backing from new Brexit party MPs instead of the DUP MPs.

I'm not so sure. He hasn't even won the Conservative leadership race and I haven't heard about this pact with Brexit party anywhere.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2019/06/16/exclusive-conservative-donors-open-secret-talks-nigel-farage/

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/tory-donors-in-secret-talks-16529947

https://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/1141248/Brexit-latest-Nigel-Farage-news-Tory-donor-talks-general-election-pact-Brexit-party

https://www.theneweuropean.co.uk/top-stories/brexit-party-claim-talks-with-tory-donors-1-6036368

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/9309594/tories-pact-nigel-farage-general-election-johnson/

Your welcome.

I would invite you to read the content of those articles. They don't amount to a hill of beans.

A source close to the talks told the newspaper they were "very preliminary", adding "you have to get Boris on board and that is going to be very tricky".
Boris Johnson ally James Cleverly played down talk of a pact today but didn't rule one out.
He said Mr Johnson didn't make pacts as Mayor of London so "I can't imagine" he will do so now.

If the Tories entered into an electoral pact with the Brexit party it would be electoral suicide.
The DUP will never support a NI only backstop. There is no price that they would consider. Anyone who thinks there is, is deluded.

It does seem far out, but with Boris at the helm anything is possible.

If there is to be a pact then I'd suggest the Brexit Party will only be allowed to stand in Labour or Lib Dem areas as I can't see the Tories wanting them on their patch.

[LeoMc]

Boris's Brexit plan is just to remove backstop from Withdrawal Agreement. No more and no less.

Will the EU budge in October to get a deal done?

I think he will go for a NI only backstop. The EU would be happy with this also. The DUP obviously won't but they will be under the bus at that stage.

How does he get his deal with a NI only backstop through parliament?

That's the £1Billion pound question.

This is a staggering level of ignorance of the DUP and their position. They will never (and never is a long time) accept an NI only backstop. 1 billion. 10 billion, 100 billion! Doesn't matter!
So given Parliaments arithmetic, I will ask again. How does he get his deal with a NI only backstop through Parliament?

He is already working on an electrol pact with the Brexit Party. He will call a general election where the Brexit party will attack Labour held leave seats. Then will hope for a majority or even get the backing from new Brexit party MPs instead of the DUP MPs.

I'm not so sure. He hasn't even won the Conservative leadership race and I haven't heard about this pact with Brexit party anywhere.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2019/06/16/exclusive-conservative-donors-open-secret-talks-nigel-farage/

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/tory-donors-in-secret-talks-16529947

https://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/1141248/Brexit-latest-Nigel-Farage-news-Tory-donor-talks-general-election-pact-Brexit-party

https://www.theneweuropean.co.uk/top-stories/brexit-party-claim-talks-with-tory-donors-1-6036368

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/9309594/tories-pact-nigel-farage-general-election-johnson/

Your welcome.

I would invite you to read the content of those articles. They don't amount to a hill of beans.

A source close to the talks told the newspaper they were "very preliminary", adding "you have to get Boris on board and that is going to be very tricky".
Boris Johnson ally James Cleverly played down talk of a pact today but didn't rule one out.
He said Mr Johnson didn't make pacts as Mayor of London so "I can't imagine" he will do so now.

If the Tories entered into an electoral pact with the Brexit party it would be electoral suicide.
The DUP will never support a NI only backstop. There is no price that they would consider. Anyone who thinks there is, is deluded.

I made no claim as to the likelihood. You stated you had heard nothing about it anywhere, I provided you a couple of links.

You are the one asking about How Boris will get the deal through Parliament.
Which is more unrealistic, entering a pact which will strengthen the Tories hand and hurt Labour or allow their economy to be completely trashed because of the DUP?
The Brexit party is a single issue party and will fade into obscurity once their single aim is achieved.

[mouview]

It does seem far out, but with Boris at the helm anything is possible.

If there is to be a pact then I'd suggest the Brexit Party will only be allowed to stand in Labour or Lib Dem areas as I can't see the Tories wanting them on their patch.

If above happens, it could backfire spectacularly.

In some ways, electing a mendacious moron like BJ as PM could be a good thing. When the rest see how badly he f*cks things up, there may finally be a swing back towards the centre for the Tories when the penny finally drops that Brexit is all but impossible and not a good thing. Requires a giant leap of faith I know. One Tory source yesterday said they fully expect another leadership contest within 18 months.

Emmanuel Macron at this point may be more dangerous to Irish interests than any British politico. I'd say over his dead body will he allow any further extensions to the Oct. 31st deadline.

[trailer]

Boris's Brexit plan is just to remove backstop from Withdrawal Agreement. No more and no less.

Will the EU budge in October to get a deal done?

I think he will go for a NI only backstop. The EU would be happy with this also. The DUP obviously won't but they will be under the bus at that stage.

How does he get his deal with a NI only backstop through parliament?

That's the £1Billion pound question.

This is a staggering level of ignorance of the DUP and their position. They will never (and never is a long time) accept an NI only backstop. 1 billion. 10 billion, 100 billion! Doesn't matter!
So given Parliaments arithmetic, I will ask again. How does he get his deal with a NI only backstop through Parliament?

He is already working on an electrol pact with the Brexit Party. He will call a general election where the Brexit party will attack Labour held leave seats. Then will hope for a majority or even get the backing from new Brexit party MPs instead of the DUP MPs.

I'm not so sure. He hasn't even won the Conservative leadership race and I haven't heard about this pact with Brexit party anywhere.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2019/06/16/exclusive-conservative-donors-open-secret-talks-nigel-farage/

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/tory-donors-in-secret-talks-16529947

https://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/1141248/Brexit-latest-Nigel-Farage-news-Tory-donor-talks-general-election-pact-Brexit-party

https://www.theneweuropean.co.uk/top-stories/brexit-party-claim-talks-with-tory-donors-1-6036368

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/9309594/tories-pact-nigel-farage-general-election-johnson/

Your welcome.

I would invite you to read the content of those articles. They don't amount to a hill of beans.

A source close to the talks told the newspaper they were "very preliminary", adding "you have to get Boris on board and that is going to be very tricky".
Boris Johnson ally James Cleverly played down talk of a pact today but didn't rule one out.
He said Mr Johnson didn't make pacts as Mayor of London so "I can't imagine" he will do so now.

If the Tories entered into an electoral pact with the Brexit party it would be electoral suicide.
The DUP will never support a NI only backstop. There is no price that they would consider. Anyone who thinks there is, is deluded.

Which is more unrealistic, entering a pact which will strngthen the Tories hand and hurt labour or allow their economy to be completely trashed because of the DUP.
The Brexit party is a single issue party and will fade into obscurity once their single aim is achieved.

I wouldn't be so naive.
Besides Farage is no doser. There's nothing to be gained by actually entering into a pact or supporting a minority government. Anyway the middle ground Tories will never countenance a pact with Farage and his crowd. Remember there is probably less than 100 Tories MPs who are in favour of leaving the EU without any deal.

[LeoMc]

Boris's Brexit plan is just to remove backstop from Withdrawal Agreement. No more and no less.

Will the EU budge in October to get a deal done?

I think he will go for a NI only backstop. The EU would be happy with this also. The DUP obviously won't but they will be under the bus at that stage.

How does he get his deal with a NI only backstop through parliament?

That's the £1Billion pound question.

This is a staggering level of ignorance of the DUP and their position. They will never (and never is a long time) accept an NI only backstop. 1 billion. 10 billion, 100 billion! Doesn't matter!
So given Parliaments arithmetic, I will ask again. How does he get his deal with a NI only backstop through Parliament?

He is already working on an electrol pact with the Brexit Party. He will call a general election where the Brexit party will attack Labour held leave seats. Then will hope for a majority or even get the backing from new Brexit party MPs instead of the DUP MPs.

I'm not so sure. He hasn't even won the Conservative leadership race and I haven't heard about this pact with Brexit party anywhere.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2019/06/16/exclusive-conservative-donors-open-secret-talks-nigel-farage/

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/tory-donors-in-secret-talks-16529947

https://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/1141248/Brexit-latest-Nigel-Farage-news-Tory-donor-talks-general-election-pact-Brexit-party

https://www.theneweuropean.co.uk/top-stories/brexit-party-claim-talks-with-tory-donors-1-6036368

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/9309594/tories-pact-nigel-farage-general-election-johnson/

Your welcome.

I would invite you to read the content of those articles. They don't amount to a hill of beans.

A source close to the talks told the newspaper they were "very preliminary", adding "you have to get Boris on board and that is going to be very tricky".
Boris Johnson ally James Cleverly played down talk of a pact today but didn't rule one out.
He said Mr Johnson didn't make pacts as Mayor of London so "I can't imagine" he will do so now.

If the Tories entered into an electoral pact with the Brexit party it would be electoral suicide.
The DUP will never support a NI only backstop. There is no price that they would consider. Anyone who thinks there is, is deluded.

Which is more unrealistic, entering a pact which will strngthen the Tories hand and hurt labour or allow their economy to be completely trashed because of the DUP.
The Brexit party is a single issue party and will fade into obscurity once their single aim is achieved.

I wouldn't be so naive.
Besides Farage is no doser. There's nothing to be gained by actually entering into a pact or supporting a minority government. Anyway the middle ground Tories will never countenance a pact with Farage and his crowd. Remember there is probably less than 100 Tories MPs who are in favour of leaving the EU without any deal.

Yet 160 of them want Boris in charge and they know their nominations are dependent upon the swivel eyed loons of the Conservative party. He is going to have to let down 1 wing of his party. He has seen what softening Brexit did to his predecessor. HAve a quick look at the recent polling among Conservative party members. They would rather lose NI & Scotland than Brexit.

The only thing Farage has to gain from providing a Confidence and supply arrangement to a minority Government is a hard Brexit!

[Franko]

Boris's Brexit plan is just to remove backstop from Withdrawal Agreement. No more and no less.

Will the EU budge in October to get a deal done?

I think he will go for a NI only backstop. The EU would be happy with this also. The DUP obviously won't but they will be under the bus at that stage.

How does he get his deal with a NI only backstop through parliament?

That's the £1Billion pound question.

This is a staggering level of ignorance of the DUP and their position. They will never (and never is a long time) accept an NI only backstop. 1 billion. 10 billion, 100 billion! Doesn't matter!
So given Parliaments arithmetic, I will ask again. How does he get his deal with a NI only backstop through Parliament?

He is already working on an electrol pact with the Brexit Party. He will call a general election where the Brexit party will attack Labour held leave seats. Then will hope for a majority or even get the backing from new Brexit party MPs instead of the DUP MPs.

I'm not so sure. He hasn't even won the Conservative leadership race and I haven't heard about this pact with Brexit party anywhere.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2019/06/16/exclusive-conservative-donors-open-secret-talks-nigel-farage/

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/tory-donors-in-secret-talks-16529947

https://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/1141248/Brexit-latest-Nigel-Farage-news-Tory-donor-talks-general-election-pact-Brexit-party

https://www.theneweuropean.co.uk/top-stories/brexit-party-claim-talks-with-tory-donors-1-6036368

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/9309594/tories-pact-nigel-farage-general-election-johnson/

Your welcome.

I would invite you to read the content of those articles. They don't amount to a hill of beans.

A source close to the talks told the newspaper they were "very preliminary", adding "you have to get Boris on board and that is going to be very tricky".
Boris Johnson ally James Cleverly played down talk of a pact today but didn't rule one out.
He said Mr Johnson didn't make pacts as Mayor of London so "I can't imagine" he will do so now.

If the Tories entered into an electoral pact with the Brexit party it would be electoral suicide.
The DUP will never support a NI only backstop. There is no price that they would consider. Anyone who thinks there is, is deluded.

Wake up man.  Could you provide any examples of instances when the DUP's position could not be moved when money was waved in front of them?  Because I can provide countless examples where the opposite is true.  Paisley, the devout Christian that he is, championed the cause of a blatantly anti-Christian government when they offered him a couple of nice holidays!

Anyway, I suspect that money might not be required.  The DUP will agree to this when they finally wake up to the reality that the alternative (in the medium term) is likely to be the reunification of Ireland.