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« Reply #46170 on: September 22, 2022, 08:17:07 PM »
Ref very sore on Trillick last 15 mins if first half

Looked to me that Mattie Donnelly was trying to buy a few frees but Cathal Forbes wasn’t having any of it.

Yeah he did on one at least, but definitely been another few were it looked like a Trillick free and got nothing. Should be a good second half.

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« Reply #46171 on: September 22, 2022, 09:05:34 PM »
Impressed by the Clarkes tonight. Bar the first 15 or so minutes they were pretty much in control. Serious pace in the team, are always a goal threat and have two excellent target men. They’ll be hard to beat.
« Last Edit: September 22, 2022, 09:31:31 PM by BennyHarp »
That was never a square ball!!

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« Reply #46172 on: September 22, 2022, 09:34:31 PM »
Impressed by the Clarkes tonight. Bar the first 15 or so minutes they were pretty much in control. Serious pace in the team, are always a goal threat and have two excellent target men. They’ll be hard to beat.

The thing that impressed me was that I don’t think they were that particularly great tonight and still won by 6. They’ve a lot more in the tank imo.

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« Reply #46173 on: September 22, 2022, 09:57:33 PM »
Did Canavan say that everyone thought Dungannon where favourites for whole thing before this game???

Is he trying to distract from the home clubs?

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« Reply #46174 on: September 22, 2022, 10:18:56 PM »
Clarkes were fully deserving winners, better all round team who despite a very poor start ended up winning very comfortably. Trillick frustrate me to be honest, plenty of quality but not sure what is missing. Were in control tonight and looked in control but once the Clarke’s hit the first goal they took over snd the game was played on their terms.

On another note, Cathal Forbes had an embarrassingly poor display. Totally inept for that standard of game. He didn’t affect the result but a total lack of consistency in his decision making.

Was sore on Trillick for the Clarke’s second goal then gave them very handy frees when they were 6 down near the end when it didn’t matter. Frustrating if you were involved on either squad tonight

He didn’t affect the result as I said as Clarke’s deserved it, they will take some beating now. A quality outfit with loads of pace all over the pitch

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« Reply #46175 on: September 22, 2022, 10:25:09 PM »
Dungannon deserved to win no doubt.. Not easy being a referee but holy lord Cathal Forbes had a shocker and honestly he is not capable of improving!!

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« Reply #46176 on: September 22, 2022, 10:43:37 PM »
Did Canavan say that everyone thought Dungannon where favourites for whole thing before this game???

Is he trying to distract from the home clubs?

Maybe he knows what' he's talking about. Won championship 2 years ago and arguably should of beat dromore last year who went on to win it.

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« Reply #46177 on: September 23, 2022, 06:12:15 AM »
Dungannon deserved to win no doubt.. Not easy being a referee but holy lord Cathal Forbes had a shocker and honestly he is not capable of improving!!

Was he booed off at half time?

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« Reply #46178 on: September 23, 2022, 10:11:29 AM »

Carrickmore V Coalisland - a very even game but injuries to Tiarnan Quinn and Paddy McNeice edge this towards Carrickmore.

Are those pair out injured? I know they were easing Quinn back in in the last few league games. If he’s out I don’t see where the Fianna get the scores from. He’s a brilliant player. Would be worth a go in the county set up imo.

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« Reply #46179 on: September 23, 2022, 10:42:16 AM »
The lights in Healy where constantly flickering last night, needs sorted

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« Reply #46180 on: September 23, 2022, 10:46:28 AM »
It was lights out for Trillick.

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« Reply #46181 on: September 23, 2022, 02:53:33 PM »
https://www.irishnews.com/sport/gaafootball/2022/09/20/news/kicking_out_weak_club-2834486/

i agree with this all county championships should be straight knock out in my opinion.

Whatever the merits/discussion of a straight knockout vs. group then knockout club championships, there's several flaws in the article.

* "Winning the league in Tyrone is a big deal. Is there any other county that can say that?" Lets be honest, winning the Division 1 league in Tyrone isn't that big of a deal especially compared to the championship. An awful lot more people in the county could tell you who won the last five senior football championships as opposed to the last five league winners. If you want that bit underlined, remember that a few years ago, Errigal Ciaran - after having won a SFC title - decided to forfeit a league semi-final game because it was fixed a week before an Ulster club SFC game they were due to play in.

* Club football in Tyrone is an outlier in the failure of any club in the county to secure anything better than three SFC wins in a row in its history stretching back some 118 years, regardless of what format the championships & leagues were.

* For all the mention of the abundance of serious potential SFC winners in Tyrone, the performance of its champions in the Ulster club SFC has been utterly nothing to write home about.

* An implication is made at the end of the article that the current system has been in place since the mid-90's. It has not. The only thing that was implemented at that time that has held on since then has been the extended promotion & relegation league play-offs as compensation for clubs playing games without their county players in the latter stages of the league in 95 & 96. The starred game system is not a Tyrone original innovation and was only brought in at around the late 00's - indeed at the time is was based on a similar system used in Monaghan. And let's not forget the decision to change the leagues from three divisions to four and then back to three.

* While the current club football setup in Derry looks to be a very strange one, it's simply nothing more than dismissing as a slight of hand their county teams Ulster & All-Ireland success this year as being in spite of the club setup while praising the Tyrone club setup as being influential for the All-Ireland U20 championship victory in the same year.

* While O'Kane does make it clear that the Tyrone (adult) club competition setup isn't perfect, his proclamation of "...Tyrone has the best club structures in the province, if not the country." fails to mention several things, notably that Junior football in the county is in a mess that has no general will in the county to be fixed unless changes are made at Intermediate & Senior level as well, and that the standard of Junior football in Tyrone would appear to have declined in the last few years - that the gap between the top and bottom of both senior & junior football in Tyrone are too wide to be reasonably competitive for most if not all involved, the reserve leagues are generally a mess (at least outside Division 1) and while it's a relatively new scenario foisted upon them, attempts to bridge U17 to adult grades have quite simply not worked in Tyrone so far given how the U19 club competitions have played out. The general competitiveness of the Tyrone SFC helps paper over the cracks in the adult club system in the county, if we soon returned to a scenario where one or two clubs dominated the SFC winners list like Carrickmore & Errigal Ciaran did for much of the 90's & early 00's, you'd more readily see the flaws. At the top levels of administration in the county, including the club reps on the county board, there has long been a small-"c" conservatism in how competition structures in Tyrone are generally handled. This is not in itself an overall good or bad thing, but it's just the way things are handled - there isn't the same will to readily experiment with different systems that there is in some other counties, including its neighbours.

* ...There would be all-out war if the county board tried to impose any more than five starred games in a 15-game season." - they got away with it last year, albeit in exceptional circumstances.

* As regards the U20's success this year as well as the minors being mentioned, I would put much more of this down to the work done at underage levels and in the schools in the county than anything much to do with adult club structures.
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« Reply #46182 on: September 23, 2022, 07:46:09 PM »
Donaghmore lack of championship pedigree could be telling at the end of this game

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« Reply #46183 on: September 23, 2022, 07:53:23 PM »
Donaghmore lack of championship pedigree could be telling at the end of this game

They seem to be afraid of losing despite being behind most of the game, Greencastle that bit more direct. Not the greatest of games, could go to extra time.

Edit: Extra time it is.

Edit 2: Curse broken for Donaghmore.
 
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« Reply #46184 on: September 23, 2022, 09:41:42 PM »
Another game without much spark to it despite Dromore's good opening.  :-\
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