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Re: Death Notices
« Reply #8160 on: July 27, 2022, 12:50:49 PM »
It’s official name was “The Belfast Agreement.”

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Re: Death Notices
« Reply #8161 on: July 27, 2022, 01:20:07 PM »
Trimble was probably looking at the long game. A few concessions to Nationalists in 1998 might appease them a little and slow down the momentum towards a united Ireland.

Some noted political commentator at the time suggested that Unionists had won a great deal in the GFA yet deemed it a defeat whereas Nationalists had conceded a lot but celebrated it as a victory.

That probably tells you more about the unionist mindset as our betters than anything else.
Doesn't it just.
Can't recall who said this now...
Unionists got a great deal but were too thick to realise it, Nationalists got a bad deal but were too clever to admit it.
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« Reply #8162 on: July 27, 2022, 02:01:39 PM »
Trimble was probably looking at the long game. A few concessions to Nationalists in 1998 might appease them a little and slow down the momentum towards a united Ireland.

Some noted political commentator at the time suggested that Unionists had won a great deal in the GFA yet deemed it a defeat whereas Nationalists had conceded a lot but celebrated it as a victory.

That probably tells you more about the unionist mindset as our betters than anything else.
Doesn't it just.
Can't recall who said this now...
Unionists got a great deal but were too thick to realise it, Nationalists got a bad deal but were too clever to admit it.

Disagree, end to the conflict, parity of esteem (still working towards), mechanism for unification

There was a third party of course, the south, the establishment got what they wanted too, to wash their hands of the north

Unionists while they also got the benefits of the conflict ending lost their inbuilt dogma, hence their perceived loss

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« Reply #8163 on: July 27, 2022, 02:21:35 PM »
Trimble was probably looking at the long game. A few concessions to Nationalists in 1998 might appease them a little and slow down the momentum towards a united Ireland.

Some noted political commentator at the time suggested that Unionists had won a great deal in the GFA yet deemed it a defeat whereas Nationalists had conceded a lot but celebrated it as a victory.

That probably tells you more about the unionist mindset as our betters than anything else.
Doesn't it just.
Can't recall who said this now...
Unionists got a great deal but were too thick to realise it, Nationalists got a bad deal but were too clever to admit it.

Disagree, end to the conflict, parity of esteem (still working towards), mechanism for unification

There was a third party of course, the south, the establishment got what they wanted too, to wash their hands of the north

Unionists while they also got the benefits of the conflict ending lost their inbuilt dogma, hence their perceived loss
Unionists we're the big losers. Pre Troubles the UUP controlled power and didn't give nationalists a look in. The GFA did not return to that system. Unionists had to share power under the GFA, which also gave Dublin a role in NI. Unionist abuse of power caused the Troubles. There was to be no going back.
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Re: Death Notices
« Reply #8164 on: July 27, 2022, 02:56:49 PM »
Trimble was probably looking at the long game. A few concessions to Nationalists in 1998 might appease them a little and slow down the momentum towards a united Ireland.

Some noted political commentator at the time suggested that Unionists had won a great deal in the GFA yet deemed it a defeat whereas Nationalists had conceded a lot but celebrated it as a victory.

That probably tells you more about the unionist mindset as our betters than anything else.
Doesn't it just.
Can't recall who said this now...
Unionists got a great deal but were too thick to realise it, Nationalists got a bad deal but were too clever to admit it.

Disagree, end to the conflict, parity of esteem (still working towards), mechanism for unification

There was a third party of course, the south, the establishment got what they wanted too, to wash their hands of the north

Unionists while they also got the benefits of the conflict ending lost their inbuilt dogma, hence their perceived loss
Unionists we're the big losers. Pre Troubles the UUP controlled power and didn't give nationalists a look in. The GFA did not return to that system. Unionists had to share power under the GFA, which also gave Dublin a role in NI. Unionist abuse of power caused the Troubles. There was to be no going back.

Unionism has always looked to wield a veto of sorts if it's not via the petition of concern it'll be as they're doing now and not nominating speakers or joint/deputy first ministers.

And before you all say SF did the same with Arlene, please remember SF were actually slower to call for Arlene to step aside than Alliance and the SDLP in the midst of the RHI scandal as Conor Murphy suggested what went on would have brought down most governments in the western world and didn't get back up due to loyalist stake holders undermining Arlene and Hamilton's agreement to do so.


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Re: Death Notices
« Reply #8165 on: July 27, 2022, 04:08:24 PM »
Trimble was probably looking at the long game. A few concessions to Nationalists in 1998 might appease them a little and slow down the momentum towards a united Ireland.

Some noted political commentator at the time suggested that Unionists had won a great deal in the GFA yet deemed it a defeat whereas Nationalists had conceded a lot but celebrated it as a victory.

That probably tells you more about the unionist mindset as our betters than anything else.
Doesn't it just.
Can't recall who said this now...
Unionists got a great deal but were too thick to realise it, Nationalists got a bad deal but were too clever to admit it.

Disagree, end to the conflict, parity of esteem (still working towards), mechanism for unification

There was a third party of course, the south, the establishment got what they wanted too, to wash their hands of the north

Unionists while they also got the benefits of the conflict ending lost their inbuilt dogma, hence their perceived loss

Yeah there was no bad deal.

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Re: Death Notices
« Reply #8166 on: July 28, 2022, 09:06:40 AM »
Bernard Cribbins, aged 93.

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« Reply #8167 on: July 28, 2022, 11:53:13 AM »
Bernard Cribbins, aged 93.

A great spoons sales man
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« Reply #8168 on: July 28, 2022, 06:14:06 PM »
Terry Neill ex Arsenal player and manager.

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« Reply #8169 on: July 28, 2022, 07:51:41 PM »

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« Reply #8170 on: July 29, 2022, 09:10:06 AM »
Mick Moloney- Folk singer, music collector, scholar. Immense contribution to folk and traditional music and especially links with US.
https://www.irishcentral.com/culture/entertainment/mick-moloney-irish-musician-dies.amp

RTE news : Bás an cheoltóra Mick Maloney

http://www.rte.ie/news/nuacht/2022/0728/1312788-bas-an-cheoltora-mick-maloney/
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Re: Death Notices
« Reply #8171 on: July 31, 2022, 06:38:54 PM »
Bill Russell - basketball legend

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Re: Death Notices
« Reply #8172 on: July 31, 2022, 09:17:54 PM »
Nichelle Nichols......Uhura from Star trek

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« Reply #8173 on: August 01, 2022, 10:59:20 AM »
Nichelle Nichols......Uhura from Star trek

80's racist joke.

Why is Uhura brown?

Because William Shatner.


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« Reply #8174 on: August 01, 2022, 11:10:09 AM »
Nichelle Nichols......Uhura from Star trek

80's racist joke.

Why is Uhura brown?

Because William Shatner.

The first interracial  kiss on tv I think
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