Man Utd Thread:

yellowcard · January 15, 2018, 05:48:40 PM

Martial is probably only behind Pogba and De Gea in terms of ability even if he hasn't totally fulfilled that potential yet so no chance that he is going anywhere.

Syferus · January 15, 2018, 05:56:01 PM

Quote from: yellowcard on January 15, 2018, 05:48:40 PM
Martial is probably only behind Pogba and De Gea in terms of ability even if he hasn't totally fulfilled that potential yet so no chance that he is going anywhere.

They're literally bringing in a better player (probably the best winger in the league over the last five years, depending on how you categorise Eden Hazard) at his position. If you don't think it will create doubts in the player's head you're ignoring the obvious. Whether Wenger can stump up the wages and the role that would sell it to Martial in a WC year is another issue. But Woodward and Jose's perennial win now attitude definitely favours Sanchez over Martial.

Captain Obvious · January 15, 2018, 06:20:17 PM

This season Premier league stats.

Sanchez
Minutes played 1501 goals scored 7 assists 5

Martial
Minutes played 909 goals scored 7 assists 4

I think you can see why Manchester United should be smart enough to say no to any swap deal and Martial is only 22 with loads of room for improvement while Sanchez may already be past his best at 29.

thewobbler · January 15, 2018, 06:24:05 PM

Quote from: Captain Obvious on January 15, 2018, 06:20:17 PM
This season Premier league stats.

Sanchez
Minutes played 1501 goals scored 7 assists 5

Martial
Minutes played 909 goals scored 7 assists 4

I think you can see why Manchester United should be smart enough to say no to any swap deal and Martial is only 22 with loads of room for improvement while Sanchez may already be past his best at 29.

Jose only cares about now. He'll be long gone before (if ever) Martial becomes a consistent threat.

Captain Obvious · January 15, 2018, 06:41:57 PM

Quote from: thewobbler on January 15, 2018, 06:24:05 PM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on January 15, 2018, 06:20:17 PM
This season Premier league stats.

Sanchez
Minutes played 1501 goals scored 7 assists 5

Martial
Minutes played 909 goals scored 7 assists 4

I think you can see why Manchester United should be smart enough to say no to any swap deal and Martial is only 22 with loads of room for improvement while Sanchez may already be past his best at 29.

Jose only cares about now. He'll be long gone before (if ever) Martial becomes a consistent threat.

Swapping Martial for a more "consistent threat" would only make sense right now if the Premier league title was still in reach or if they had a chance of winning the champions league.

thewobbler · January 15, 2018, 07:03:59 PM

United's transfer policy, except for Matic, hasn't made any sense for about 5 years.

Syferus · January 15, 2018, 07:36:54 PM

In clubs like United you need to be good enough now or you need to get good enough somewhere else. You can't do an apprenticeship in a side struggling to get back to the top easily, as Martial and Rashford are finding out. Jose is short term but you're being blinded by personal dislike if you think there's many managers who wouldn't be operating the same way in that job. Fecking Pep wants Sánchez too and he has as good if not better wingers of a young age than Jose.

And Cap'n, I hope you're not actually suggesting Martial is better than Sánchez?

Cunny Funt · January 15, 2018, 07:48:15 PM

Quote from: Captain Obvious on January 15, 2018, 06:20:17 PM
This season Premier league stats.

Sanchez
Minutes played 1501 goals scored 7 assists 5

Martial
Minutes played 909 goals scored 7 assists 4

I think you can see why Manchester United should be smart enough to say no to any swap deal and Martial is only 22 with loads of room for improvement while Sanchez may already be past his best at 29.

Plus Martial has a better attitude than Sanchez. Stoke tonight Martial starts, Stoke drew in Old Trafford last season and Stoke apparently have never lost PL away match on a Monday night.

Captain Obvious · January 15, 2018, 08:10:32 PM

Valencia back with a bang

thewobbler · January 15, 2018, 08:29:20 PM

Quote from: Cunny Funt on January 15, 2018, 07:48:15 PM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on January 15, 2018, 06:20:17 PM
This season Premier league stats.

Sanchez
Minutes played 1501 goals scored 7 assists 5

Martial
Minutes played 909 goals scored 7 assists 4

I think you can see why Manchester United should be smart enough to say no to any swap deal and Martial is only 22 with loads of room for improvement while Sanchez may already be past his best at 29.

Plus Martial has a better attitude than Sanchez. Stoke tonight Martial starts, Stoke drew in Old Trafford last season and Stoke apparently have never lost PL away match on a Monday night.

Are you sure about this?

Sánchez might be running down a contract but he never leaves anything on the field. Not sure anyone could say the same about Thierry mark II

Captain Obvious · January 15, 2018, 08:38:51 PM

Some finish by Martial there.

Syferus · January 15, 2018, 08:39:54 PM

Quote from: thewobbler on January 15, 2018, 08:29:20 PM
Quote from: Cunny Funt on January 15, 2018, 07:48:15 PM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on January 15, 2018, 06:20:17 PM
This season Premier league stats.

Sanchez
Minutes played 1501 goals scored 7 assists 5

Martial
Minutes played 909 goals scored 7 assists 4

I think you can see why Manchester United should be smart enough to say no to any swap deal and Martial is only 22 with loads of room for improvement while Sanchez may already be past his best at 29.

Plus Martial has a better attitude than Sanchez. Stoke tonight Martial starts, Stoke drew in Old Trafford last season and Stoke apparently have never lost PL away match on a Monday night.

Are you sure about this?

Sánchez might be running down a contract but he never leaves anything on the field. Not sure anyone could say the same about Thierry mark II

Sánchez has a sort of maniac will to win - this isn't Ben Arfa style petualance. Martial's persona on the field is more cool and passive. I think some Utd fans are seriously overrating how good he's been for them. Jose clearly isn't sold in the same way supporters are and that counts for a lot in this calculation.

Cunny Funt · January 15, 2018, 08:46:01 PM

Quote from: thewobbler on January 15, 2018, 08:29:20 PM
Are you sure about this?

Sánchez might be running down a contract but he never leaves anything on the field. Not sure anyone could say the same about Thierry mark II

He hasn't been labeled sulking Sanchez for nothing.

Bord na Mona man · January 15, 2018, 11:01:03 PM

Most assists in Europe's top five leagues this season:

Paul Pogba (9 in 13 games)
Neymar (9 in 14 games)
Philipp Max (9 in 18 games)
Pione Sisto (9 in 19 games)
Leroy Sane (9 in 21 games)
Kevin De Bruyne (9 in 23 games)

But, Pogba's hair...

Milltown Row2 · January 15, 2018, 11:05:19 PM

Two difficult away fixtures for Utd.. they weren't at their fluid best but some saves from the best keeper in the world!

He'll need more help from his defence when at Burnely and Spurs, Spurs possibly hitting the best form at the minute and getting Home wins now also!

The number nine bus will be brought out