Antrim Hurling

[Two Hands FFS]

Has anyone checked on Tosh? Poor fella was gutted on Sunday

[Gael-in-exile]

Has anyone checked on Tosh? Poor fella was gutted on Sunday

I noted it took a former county player and Loughgiel hurler to let Jerome Quinn know that the referee would not be overly biased against Dunloy due to what the commentator said was 'a big rivalry between Loughgiel & Dunloy' and in fact those from Loughgiel dislike Cushendall and Dunloy equally.

[Milltown Row2]

That sort of stuff is unhelpful at times, the best ref's need to be getting the best games, and Ciaran has been doing intercounty and club games for many a year and due to Loughgiel's appearances in finals of late it's going to throw up limited chances to do a county final.

There are also things that can help a ref's CV in a very competitive market for ref's and that's getting to do a county final.

Two penalty calls, no major bookings and no major talking points bar the wind/gales.

The fact we are not talking about the ref on here is a positive

[Gael-in-exile]

I thought he was excellent. Any concerns about how he may approach it being such a big game and his first county senior final were gone after about 3-4 minutes.
The comment from the commentator was terrible I thought, he tried to go back on it a good while later in the coverage but it struck as unfair on the ref and also could've been considered to show a bit of his own bias.

[paddyjohn]

I don't know how people are saying anything negative about the ref. I thought he was very good.

[north_antrim_hound]

That sort of stuff is unhelpful at times, the best ref's need to be getting the best games, and Ciaran has been doing intercounty and club games for many a year and due to Loughgiel's appearances in finals of late it's going to throw up limited chances to do a county final.

There are also things that can help a ref's CV in a very competitive market for ref's and that's getting to do a county final.

Two penalty calls, no major bookings and no major talking points bar the wind/gales.

The fact we are not talking about the ref on here is a positive

A lot of questionable calls where made in favour of cushendall, a full frontal charge on Eoin o Neil by Burke was deemed to be shoulder to shoulder etc. Tosh was trying to find Rationale for some of the decisions, I have no problem with his comments on the officiating. I wouldn't be expecting other officials on the day to highlight bad decisions TBH. Both penalties were soft and some of the frees cushendall got in first half where soft.
Dunloy lost it by not using the breeze as well as cushendall to be fair but some dodgy calls for sure.

[Milltown Row2]

That sort of stuff is unhelpful at times, the best ref's need to be getting the best games, and Ciaran has been doing intercounty and club games for many a year and due to Loughgiel's appearances in finals of late it's going to throw up limited chances to do a county final.

There are also things that can help a ref's CV in a very competitive market for ref's and that's getting to do a county final.

Two penalty calls, no major bookings and no major talking points bar the wind/gales.

The fact we are not talking about the ref on here is a positive

A lot of questionable calls where made in favour of cushendall, a full frontal charge on Eoin o Neil by Burke was deemed to be shoulder to shoulder etc. Tosh was trying to find Rationale for some of the decisions, I have no problem with his comments on the officiating. I wouldn't be expecting other officials on the day to highlight bad decisions TBH. Both penalties were soft and some of the frees cushendall got in first half where soft.
Dunloy lost it by not using the breeze as well as cushendall to be fair but some dodgy calls for sure.

All about angles on some calls and I understand what you are saying, though if you were standing were I was every call against Cushendall was met with the same questions to me lol

[Gael-in-exile]

That sort of stuff is unhelpful at times, the best ref's need to be getting the best games, and Ciaran has been doing intercounty and club games for many a year and due to Loughgiel's appearances in finals of late it's going to throw up limited chances to do a county final.

There are also things that can help a ref's CV in a very competitive market for ref's and that's getting to do a county final.

Two penalty calls, no major bookings and no major talking points bar the wind/gales.

The fact we are not talking about the ref on here is a positive

A lot of questionable calls where made in favour of cushendall, a full frontal charge on Eoin o Neil by Burke was deemed to be shoulder to shoulder etc. Tosh was trying to find Rationale for some of the decisions, I have no problem with his comments on the officiating. I wouldn't be expecting other officials on the day to highlight bad decisions TBH. Both penalties were soft and some of the frees cushendall got in first half where soft.
Dunloy lost it by not using the breeze as well as cushendall to be fair but some dodgy calls for sure.

We must've been watching a different game or have a varied view on the rules and how they are officiated.
I hope Tosh wasn't trying to 'find rationale' with his comment or he was claiming the ref was being biased.
And I certainly didn't think that's what he was saying but nor did I think the quote was appropriate.

[NorthAntrim]

That sort of stuff is unhelpful at times, the best ref's need to be getting the best games, and Ciaran has been doing intercounty and club games for many a year and due to Loughgiel's appearances in finals of late it's going to throw up limited chances to do a county final.

There are also things that can help a ref's CV in a very competitive market for ref's and that's getting to do a county final.

Two penalty calls, no major bookings and no major talking points bar the wind/gales.

The fact we are not talking about the ref on here is a positive

A lot of questionable calls where made in favour of cushendall, a full frontal charge on Eoin o Neil by Burke was deemed to be shoulder to shoulder etc. Tosh was trying to find Rationale for some of the decisions, I have no problem with his comments on the officiating. I wouldn't be expecting other officials on the day to highlight bad decisions TBH. Both penalties were soft and some of the frees cushendall got in first half where soft.
Dunloy lost it by not using the breeze as well as cushendall to be fair but some dodgy calls for sure.

Burke stood his ground. Was a good tackle imo. Correct call from the ref

[Jonkunlon]

There was one yellow card missed I believe.

Dunloy player broke the line in the LHF position (later stages of the first half). Cushendall half back pulled him back by the forearm.

Ciaran blew for the free and went to his pocket but got distracted by something else. I believe, though could be wrong, he forgot to issue the yellow.

[SaffronSports]

I honestly thought the ref got the Dunloy penalty wrong and at the time thought he was blowing for overcarrying. I don't expect refs to be perfect though and they'll see what they see from where they are on the pitch and I'd say 99.9% of them there is no malice involved.

I didn't catch what Johnny said to be honest but did hear the bit where he kind of back tracks on it. I assume he said something about the ref being from Loughgiel and them being rivals with Dunloy? TBH I'd say a lot of the Loughgiel ones I know dislike Cushendall more but when you have dominated the way those three have for so long there will be no love lost between any of them.

[north_antrim_hound]

That sort of stuff is unhelpful at times, the best ref's need to be getting the best games, and Ciaran has been doing intercounty and club games for many a year and due to Loughgiel's appearances in finals of late it's going to throw up limited chances to do a county final.

There are also things that can help a ref's CV in a very competitive market for ref's and that's getting to do a county final.

Two penalty calls, no major bookings and no major talking points bar the wind/gales.

The fact we are not talking about the ref on here is a positive

A lot of questionable calls where made in favour of cushendall, a full frontal charge on Eoin o Neil by Burke was deemed to be shoulder to shoulder etc. Tosh was trying to find Rationale for some of the decisions, I have no problem with his comments on the officiating. I wouldn't be expecting other officials on the day to highlight bad decisions TBH. Both penalties were soft and some of the frees cushendall got in first half where soft.
Dunloy lost it by not using the breeze as well as cushendall to be fair but some dodgy calls for sure.

Burke stood his ground. Was a good tackle imo. Correct call from the ref

BS he turned his shoulder into him and if he just stood his ground why did Ref gesture shoulder to shoulder.
All the questionable calls mentioned by commentary team was on the money.

[Two Hands FFS]

That sort of stuff is unhelpful at times, the best ref's need to be getting the best games, and Ciaran has been doing intercounty and club games for many a year and due to Loughgiel's appearances in finals of late it's going to throw up limited chances to do a county final.

There are also things that can help a ref's CV in a very competitive market for ref's and that's getting to do a county final.

Two penalty calls, no major bookings and no major talking points bar the wind/gales.

The fact we are not talking about the ref on here is a positive

A lot of questionable calls where made in favour of cushendall, a full frontal charge on Eoin o Neil by Burke was deemed to be shoulder to shoulder etc. Tosh was trying to find Rationale for some of the decisions, I have no problem with his comments on the officiating. I wouldn't be expecting other officials on the day to highlight bad decisions TBH. Both penalties were soft and some of the frees cushendall got in first half where soft.
Dunloy lost it by not using the breeze as well as cushendall to be fair but some dodgy calls for sure.

Burke stood his ground. Was a good tackle imo. Correct call from the ref

BS he turned his shoulder into him and if he just stood his ground why did Ref gesture shoulder to shoulder.
All the questionable calls mentioned by commentary team was on the money.

That sort of stuff is unhelpful at times, the best ref's need to be getting the best games, and Ciaran has been doing intercounty and club games for many a year and due to Loughgiel's appearances in finals of late it's going to throw up limited chances to do a county final.

There are also things that can help a ref's CV in a very competitive market for ref's and that's getting to do a county final.

Two penalty calls, no major bookings and no major talking points bar the wind/gales.

The fact we are not talking about the ref on here is a positive

A lot of questionable calls where made in favour of cushendall, a full frontal charge on Eoin o Neil by Burke was deemed to be shoulder to shoulder etc. Tosh was trying to find Rationale for some of the decisions, I have no problem with his comments on the officiating. I wouldn't be expecting other officials on the day to highlight bad decisions TBH. Both penalties were soft and some of the frees cushendall got in first half where soft.
Dunloy lost it by not using the breeze as well as cushendall to be fair but some dodgy calls for sure.

Burke stood his ground. Was a good tackle imo. Correct call from the ref

BS he turned his shoulder into him and if he just stood his ground why did Ref gesture shoulder to shoulder.
All the questionable calls mentioned by commentary team was on the money.

PB's shoulder should have been a free, but I'd say Tosh said at least another 7 or 8 times that Dunloy should have had a free for this or that. It was embarrassing

[imtommygunn]

i would have thought a Glenariff man would be more likely to be against cushendall rather than for him...

Burke's shoulder wasn't shoulder to shoulder and should have been a free but other than that not many controversial ones I thought.. Cushendall to me just sat back too much at the end and could have won by a bit more (not much but a bit). Like others said it was won against the wind. I actually thought looking at the highlights on TG4 the penalty calls were correct which is something I wasn't sure of at the time. McLaughlin was more or less in a bear hug.

[Gael-in-exile]

i would have thought a Glenariff man would be more likely to be against cushendall rather than for him...

Burke's shoulder wasn't shoulder to shoulder and should have been a free but other than that not many controversial ones I thought.. Cushendall to me just sat back too much at the end and could have won by a bit more (not much but a bit). Like others said it was won against the wind. I actually thought looking at the highlights on TG4 the penalty calls were correct which is something I wasn't sure of at the time. McLaughlin was more or less in a bear hug.

The quote would've given you the impression the ref was likely to be harder on Dunloy and thus making it easier for Cushendall. Maybe he was getting the excuses in early to diminish the Dall possible success