AIQF Armagh v Monaghan

[Lucifer]

I noticed and Murphy on commentary mentioned also the Armagh players reacting to every penalty with fist pumps etc. Monaghan seemed a lot more measured. Surely that emotion is draining to the players and they aren't mentally set to make the right decision next time round. I'm not a sports psychologist but I wonder if that is something coached or more of a team culture that develops naturally.

You're over analysing.

[restorepride]

Expectation seemed to weigh heavy on Ard Mhacha. Grugan took a mark, possible score, then passed across the pitch. Fear of missing. Overplayed the ball too often. O'Neiil has big moments but no consistency. McGeeney too intense, players seem to reflect that.

[Main Street]

Is it over for Geezer?

Be careful what you wish for, Armagh have had very little success at underage level or club level. McGeeney has done well with the squad he has. Narrative seems to be different for Armagh than Monaghan but it should be the same.

If Armagh are not seriously questioning experienced manager McGeeney's tenure, considering with arguably a better squad he was outdone by a rookie manager (albeit in a drawn game),  then?
But that's not of my concern.

An aside, such false hard man posturing on the field of play, riling up Monaghan player Mohan to a reaction  was totally unacceptable.

[Walter Cronc]

Is it over for Geezer?

Be careful what you wish for, Armagh have had very little success at underage level or club level. McGeeney has done well with the squad he has. Narrative seems to be different for Armagh than Monaghan but it should be the same.

Big time. At Minors, 20s and school level they are not producing. A lot of very average players (especially in defence) playing at their max!

[thewobbler]

Kieran mc Geeney must be the most unlucky supremo never seems to get any luck.

As a player he made his own luck. Backed himself to make the big pass, to make the big hit. He was absolutely sublime.

As a manager he's the opposite.

Lucky is as lucky does.

[HiMucker]

Is it over for Geezer?

Be careful what you wish for, Armagh have had very little success at underage level or club level. McGeeney has done well with the squad he has. Narrative seems to be different for Armagh than Monaghan but it should be the same.

From outside looking in Mcgeeney hasnt achieved much with Armagh or Kildare. However from any player interview they seem to think extremely highly of him. He's probably a decent manager but both sides need a tactical innovator to make the leap. We got it in Gallagher, but he's finished in the game now obviously and rightly so.

[WT4E]

Haven't read the thread just came in to ask. Are Armagh now the England of GAA

[bennydorano]

There's one for the Derry boys.

Vinny Corey: "We didn't win the match, we won a penalty shootout"
Monaghan converted nine of their ten spot kicks. 

https://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/gaa/arid-41174728.html

[didlyi]

Wouldnt feel too sorry for any team loosing that on penalties or any other way. 28 points in 120 minutes of football says it all.

Just go fck yourself and your sorrow gifts.

Fcuk you too and the load of shyte served up.

[Wildweasel74]

Manners lads!

[JoG2]

Corey has done a great job. Comes across a decent sort too so nice to see. Monaghan aren't a huge county but consistently are among the top teams in the country. Fair play to them.

Would agree, didnt feel the need to shoulder an opposition player at the end of normal time either. Very measured fella. Monaghan deserved to win this game. Good spread of very talented players too. Armagh have very good players,  but need changes on the line, far to conservative in their approach.

Conservative is the word. By all means have O'Neill defending when needed and dropping into the middle third to get on the ball and make things happen, but having him deep in his own half when the game is in the balance and he's the teams game changer......

Great admiration for Monaghan, 28th county population wise and another top 4 spot for the 2nd time in 6 years. Watching them walking off after a fairly heavy defeat in the Ulster semi v Derry, you could see how much it hurt. Fast forward a few weeks to Celtic Park, the old dogged Monaghan showed up, pride and ability in abundance

[armaghniac]

Expectation seemed to weigh heavy on Ard Mhacha. Grugan took a mark, possible score, then passed across the pitch. Fear of missing. Overplayed the ball too often. O'Neiil has big moments but no consistency. McGeeney too intense, players seem to reflect that.

He wasn't in a great position for shooting, the big problem was that he hit a bad pass across the field.
Armagh often did the hard bit and then fluffed the next pass or whatever.

[Wildweasel74]

Armagh management came up with this very defensive set-up this year to cover a poor enough defence. But this set-up goes against the attacking ability of their good Forwards. They better playing a more attacking game to suit the players they have. Derry play defensive because they got a very good defence and, Midfield but are short up front, Armagh are the opposite.

[Armagh18]

Probably the first time i've said it in a long while, but that defeat is almost entirely on management. Not sure why we left O'Connell and McCarthy unmarked. As others have said we set up to not lose rather than to win. Feels far worse than the Derry/Galway games for some reason.

[Schkite]

Corey has done a great job. Comes across a decent sort too so nice to see. Monaghan aren't a huge county but consistently are among the top teams in the country. Fair play to them.

Know Vinny since he was a young lad togging out at underage for Clontibret  -  absolute salt of the earth, no BS kind of fella. Couldn't be more delighted for the job he's done so far. I always figured he was destined for this job at some point as he's a natural leader and there wouldn't be many more respected fellas in Monaghan GAA - but I'd say if you asked him, he'd say in an ideal world he wouldn't have got this job so quick. But the county were struggling to get a new manager and, Vinny being who he is, wasn't going to see his county stuck.

We'd been written off at the start of year for relegation and not much else, yet here we are in an AI semi and with Division 1 football yet again in 2024.