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Re: Kerry v Galway, All-Ireland Senior Football Final. 24 July, 2022
« Reply #390 on: July 31, 2022, 03:43:24 PM »
Hopefully this shines a light on the shenanigans of the big Dublin clubs.

Iím from a small Dublin northside club, and our best footballer was on the Dublin panel but not getting a run. St Vincentís did everything they could to poach him, but we objected at every turn. The ladís head was definitely turned,  but in fairness to him he knuckled down and keeps producing for us.

Iíd love to see some kind of a draft system in place, where if there is someone like Walsh with a genuine reason to move to Dublin, and doesnít want to travel home for club training and club games that he goes to the weakest south side senior club rather than to the biggest and strongest club in the county (albeit unrealistic for an amateur sport).

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Re: Kerry v Galway, All-Ireland Senior Football Final. 24 July, 2022
« Reply #391 on: July 31, 2022, 05:18:36 PM »
David Clifford kicked 1-9 for Fossa in their 1-14 to 0-10 win over Listowel Emmets today, just a week after his All-Ireland win
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Re: Kerry v Galway, All-Ireland Senior Football Final. 24 July, 2022
« Reply #392 on: July 31, 2022, 05:32:53 PM »
Hopefully this shines a light on the shenanigans of the big Dublin clubs.

Iím from a small Dublin northside club, and our best footballer was on the Dublin panel but not getting a run. St Vincentís did everything they could to poach him, but we objected at every turn. The ladís head was definitely turned,  but in fairness to him he knuckled down and keeps producing for us.

Iíd love to see some kind of a draft system in place, where if there is someone like Walsh with a genuine reason to move to Dublin, and doesnít want to travel home for club training and club games that he goes to the weakest south side senior club rather than to the biggest and strongest club in the county (albeit unrealistic for an amateur sport).

Perhaps a draft system would be hard to arrange, but you could limit intercounty transfers to clubs to one per year or the like.
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Re: Kerry v Galway, All-Ireland Senior Football Final. 24 July, 2022
« Reply #393 on: July 31, 2022, 08:23:01 PM »
If the objection is successful I can't see Shane losing any sweat for the Club.

It's a lose-lose situation for Kilkerrin-clonberne.  :-\
What are the actual rules around inter county transfers? If the parent club refuses to sign the transfer form what happens next like?
I can see where any small club is coming from if theyíre losing one of the best players in the country (and Kilkerrin-Clonberne are struggling at adult level at the moment).
At the same time - is there any point in standing in a players way if they want to transfer away to where theyíre living?
We lost probably our best player this year to a transfer to a Dublin club. All we could do is sign the transfer and wish the guy well. Heís in his mid to late 20s and has given us a lot of commitment over the years. Couldnít blame him for transferring as his life is in Dublin for now.
Granted he isnít Shane Walsh level of talent but then who is.

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Re: Kerry v Galway, All-Ireland Senior Football Final. 24 July, 2022
« Reply #394 on: July 31, 2022, 09:28:26 PM »
David Clifford kicked 1-9 for Fossa in their 1-14 to 0-10 win over Listowel Emmets today, just a week after his All-Ireland win
How are Fossa a junior team if they have the 2 Clifford's. How bad must the other 13 players be

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Re: Kerry v Galway, All-Ireland Senior Football Final. 24 July, 2022
« Reply #395 on: August 01, 2022, 12:54:41 AM »
David Clifford kicked 1-9 for Fossa in their 1-14 to 0-10 win over Listowel Emmets today, just a week after his All-Ireland win
How are Fossa a junior team if they have the 2 Clifford's. How bad must the other 13 players be

Sure did Moy not have like 4/5 on the County Panel at a stage languishing in Intermediate??

Jordan 2 Cavanaghs Holmes and Mellon?

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Re: Kerry v Galway, All-Ireland Senior Football Final. 24 July, 2022
« Reply #396 on: August 01, 2022, 06:53:58 AM »
David Clifford kicked 1-9 for Fossa in their 1-14 to 0-10 win over Listowel Emmets today, just a week after his All-Ireland win
How are Fossa a junior team if they have the 2 Clifford's. How bad must the other 13 players be

Sure did Moy not have like 4/5 on the County Panel at a stage languishing in Intermediate??

Jordan 2 Cavanaghs Holmes and Mellon?

Holmes was with Armagh Harps but yes the Moy were playing Internediate in 2008 with those other 4 players mentioned in their prime. They lost the Intermediate final that year but won the Division 2 league to gain promotion back to Senior. They were relegated to Intermediate again about 3 years after that too.

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Re: Kerry v Galway, All-Ireland Senior Football Final. 24 July, 2022
« Reply #397 on: August 02, 2022, 11:30:18 AM »
David Clifford kicked 1-9 for Fossa in their 1-14 to 0-10 win over Listowel Emmets today, just a week after his All-Ireland win
How are Fossa a junior team if they have the 2 Clifford's. How bad must the other 13 players be
Only 8 clubs play in Kerry senior championship.
16 clubs in intermediate.
The 25th and lower ranked clubs play junior.
It's why they have such a high success rate in the all Ireland intermediate and junior competitions.

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Re: Kerry v Galway, All-Ireland Senior Football Final. 24 July, 2022
« Reply #398 on: August 02, 2022, 11:36:53 AM »
David Clifford kicked 1-9 for Fossa in their 1-14 to 0-10 win over Listowel Emmets today, just a week after his All-Ireland win
How are Fossa a junior team if they have the 2 Clifford's. How bad must the other 13 players be
Only 8 clubs play in Kerry senior championship.
16 clubs in intermediate.
The 25th and lower ranked clubs play junior.
It's why they have such a high success rate in the all Ireland intermediate and junior competitions.

Intermediate in Kerry is like a Senior'B' Championship.
Junior is like Intermediate B.


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Re: Kerry v Galway, All-Ireland Senior Football Final. 24 July, 2022
« Reply #399 on: August 02, 2022, 11:45:24 AM »
David Clifford kicked 1-9 for Fossa in their 1-14 to 0-10 win over Listowel Emmets today, just a week after his All-Ireland win
How are Fossa a junior team if they have the 2 Clifford's. How bad must the other 13 players be
Only 8 clubs play in Kerry senior championship.
16 clubs in intermediate.
The 25th and lower ranked clubs play junior.
It's why they have such a high success rate in the all Ireland intermediate and junior competitions.

Intermediate in Kerry is like a Senior'B' Championship.
Junior is like Intermediate B.
No intermediate like!!

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Re: Kerry v Galway, All-Ireland Senior Football Final. 24 July, 2022
« Reply #400 on: August 02, 2022, 12:39:54 PM »
David Clifford kicked 1-9 for Fossa in their 1-14 to 0-10 win over Listowel Emmets today, just a week after his All-Ireland win
How are Fossa a junior team if they have the 2 Clifford's. How bad must the other 13 players be

Sure did Moy not have like 4/5 on the County Panel at a stage languishing in Intermediate??

Jordan 2 Cavanaghs Holmes and Mellon?

Clan na nGael were in junior with Brian Dooher and Stephen ONeill.

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Re: Kerry v Galway, All-Ireland Senior Football Final. 24 July, 2022
« Reply #401 on: August 02, 2022, 01:02:15 PM »
David Clifford kicked 1-9 for Fossa in their 1-14 to 0-10 win over Listowel Emmets today, just a week after his All-Ireland win
How are Fossa a junior team if they have the 2 Clifford's. How bad must the other 13 players be

Sure did Moy not have like 4/5 on the County Panel at a stage languishing in Intermediate??

Jordan 2 Cavanaghs Holmes and Mellon?

Clan na nGael were in junior with Brian Dooher and Stephen ONeill.

Good players generally come through the county set ups at under 14 up, they'll have developed a lot better than the other kids in their club regardless of where their senior team play, if they progress through minor to under 21 while being part of a schools or college team then their development will be ready to make that jump to senior county, their club though could still be Junior!

Its not uncommon in some counties like Kerry for example but rarer in counties like Antrim, did a match the other week, county player on a current intermediate team, but may be Junior next year, he was physically in a different planet to his team mates, and skill level was night and day. One county standard player can only bring a team so far
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Re: Kerry v Galway, All-Ireland Senior Football Final. 24 July, 2022
« Reply #402 on: August 02, 2022, 01:27:03 PM »
David Clifford kicked 1-9 for Fossa in their 1-14 to 0-10 win over Listowel Emmets today, just a week after his All-Ireland win
How are Fossa a junior team if they have the 2 Clifford's. How bad must the other 13 players be

Sure did Moy not have like 4/5 on the County Panel at a stage languishing in Intermediate??

Jordan 2 Cavanaghs Holmes and Mellon?

Clan na nGael were in junior with Brian Dooher and Stephen ONeill.
Are you sure about that? More like they were in div 1 and now back in div 3 since the two players retired.

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Re: Kerry v Galway, All-Ireland Senior Football Final. 24 July, 2022
« Reply #403 on: August 03, 2022, 10:21:10 AM »
David Clifford kicked 1-9 for Fossa in their 1-14 to 0-10 win over Listowel Emmets today, just a week after his All-Ireland win
How are Fossa a junior team if they have the 2 Clifford's. How bad must the other 13 players be

Sure did Moy not have like 4/5 on the County Panel at a stage languishing in Intermediate??

Jordan 2 Cavanaghs Holmes and Mellon?

Clan na nGael were in junior with Brian Dooher and Stephen ONeill.
Are you sure about that? More like they were in div 1 and now back in div 3 since the two players retired.

Clan were definitely a junior club when the 2 maestros were in their prime

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Re: Kerry v Galway, All-Ireland Senior Football Final. 24 July, 2022
« Reply #404 on: August 03, 2022, 10:56:52 AM »
David Clifford kicked 1-9 for Fossa in their 1-14 to 0-10 win over Listowel Emmets today, just a week after his All-Ireland win
How are Fossa a junior team if they have the 2 Clifford's. How bad must the other 13 players be

Sure did Moy not have like 4/5 on the County Panel at a stage languishing in Intermediate??

Jordan 2 Cavanaghs Holmes and Mellon?

Clan na nGael were in junior with Brian Dooher and Stephen ONeill.
Are you sure about that? More like they were in div 1 and now back in div 3 since the two players retired.

Clan were definitely a junior club when the 2 maestros were in their prime

They won Junior in 1997 in what would have been Dooher's 2nd season with the Tyrone senior team and with O'Neill a Tyrone minor. They then won Intermediate the following season and were Senior for a very long time after that. So both players played Senior mostly in their prime.