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#1
Quote from: yellowcard on September 12, 2021, 04:39:14 PM
McGuinness has almost got his soccer A licence I doubt if he'd just ditch the career change at this point without having had a proper go at managing on his own. I'd say he's more likely to pop up in the LOI than return to top end GAA management.
People really do need to look at what McGuiness actually achieved with teams Irish, Scottish and Chinese (and how long he stayed with each job) then read carefully the pseudo philosophy and crypto psychology in his media articles and think carefully before hiring him.
#2
Quote from: dublin7 on September 12, 2021, 12:48:51 AM
Tyrone were worthy winners. Shot selection/decision making/skill levels were piss piss poor form Mayo while Tyrone made their chances count.

What did Mayo work on in training all season. The pressure came on today and the Mayo forwards were embarrassingly bad . Didn't want to know and  when pressure came on tonight.

Serious questions need to be asked of Horan and his mangement team. Shambolic is the only way to describe that Mayo performance and once again Aidan O'Shea scores nothing on All Ireland finals day when the pressure osoon
The dynamic between Horan and especially one of his management team younger fella black hair was bad during the match with Horan turning away in near disgust after the other fella had been very strongly putting points (or giving out). They destroy themselves. The thing is curses only work if you believe them and Mayo, in the back of their minds, clearly do believe that 'curse'.
#3
Quote from: red hander on September 11, 2021, 08:34:55 PM
Quote from: Nanderson on September 11, 2021, 08:26:57 PM
Quote from: SouthDublinBro on September 11, 2021, 08:19:57 PM
Quote from: Capt Pat on September 11, 2021, 07:51:55 PM
They never mentioned it in commentary or on rte at all but I thought Morgan was off his goal line before the penalty was taken. Should it not have been retaken?

You watch too much soccer.
They have a point
(b) For the goalkeeper defending a penalty kick to
move nearer than 11m before the kick is taken.
PENALTY -
If a goal is not scored, the referee shall
allow the penalty kick to be retaken.
Although i don't think i've ever seen it enforced in GAA

Look out. The Bottom Inspectors are in the building. Clench those cheeks.
Key point about the penalty was that Conn Kilpatirck was fouled when catching the ball, pushed from behind by Conroy I think, when the, very bad, free was kicked in. It should have been a free out. So justice was done in the end.
#4
Tyrone / Re: Tyrone County Football and Hurling
September 01, 2021, 08:41:04 PM
Quote from: nrico2006 on September 01, 2021, 04:10:41 PM
Quote from: RedHand88 on September 01, 2021, 12:46:32 PM
Are the kickouts something to worry about? Is it possible tyrone didn't mind conceding the kickout because it would lead to kerry running possession into trouble and an inevitable tyrone turnover and score?

I can't imagine thats true.  Far too risky to be at that craic,  Kerry had too many sniffs of goal and its something I would hope is tightened up on for the final.  Additionally, I would hope/imagine Tyrone should even improve on fitness, intensity etc. for the final given the two weeks training they will have as well as the fact that they are 2 weeks further recovered from COVID.

What did Mark Bradley do that was so bad in the Ulster Final?  If we are going to permanently bench every player who has ever had a bad game, there wouldn't be any players left to start the final.  Some fans are very fickle, Bradley has been a brilliant player for Tyrone but has never had a consistent run given various reasons.  I think of the criticism dished out so easily to our players over the years and it seems to take forever for some folk to change their opinions.  I'm thinking of Colm Cavanagh, Harte, McShane and McGeary etc.  Is Bradley next on the hit-list?

As for the block, brilliant piece of play from a brilliant player but not as good as Gormleys block, from either a technical, timing or significance perspective.

Tyrone didn't contest Kerry kick outs and only logical reason is to keep them short away from Moran and a belief they could strip the ball from Kerry coming down the field as they. As pointed out in paper today it was surprizing Kerry didn't go long anyway as Tyrone's long kick out strategy failed and it seems  Kennedy and Kilpatrick whilst getting stronger are not ready for a catching contest with the likes of Moran yet. But great promise and they will soon be there I believe. Still I'd see Mayo playing O'Shea at midfield mostly as Tyrone strength there isn't great I believe. I think McShane must start so drop Kilpatrick for Donnelly to be named at midfield but Donnelly can't afford the 3/4 sloppy weak passes shot he had against Kerry. McKenna and McCurry feeding off McShane looks very good surely? I would bring on Bradley for McKenna on 50min to steady things against Mayo unless goals are badly needed. Very intelligent footballer but given to bad early shot selection tho Tyrone were much better and patient in this area against Kerry than before; learnt from Dublin I suppose and its a key area for success. Harte brilliant and strong  in many ways but still think he is not a great tackler with body shape wrong and could be used by Mayo to get frees. Anyway Tyrone have about 7-8 good half forwards and so some will have to play out of position. Watching Clifford his trick was often feint and step aside to get the 2 yard space. Both McNamee and Hampsey fell for that too easily lost him and Horan etc. will have picked up on that. Can't easily separate Mayo and Tyrone but think Dublin's collapse in shape and discipline was far worst than Kerry's failings so Tyrone may have the edge. I wonder will Oisin Mullin be back for  Mayo big tall and skillful add him to O'Donoghue's determined engine with Conroy's speed and shooting will make a dangerous young (mainly) forward line for a Tyrone defense which isn't as good as years gone by so far I think but McGeary's determination and leadership should carry them clear as he covers every inch from one 45 to the other. And for God's sake don't let Morgan take frees from out near sideline unless to waste time. He has to improve his kicking next time (and they need to plan much more on movement to get men free to give him targets; a big hoof up the middle won't do unless to vary things once or twice (and he missed several shorter ones against Kerry whilst clearly kicking as ordered in the plan  for that day) but his outfield play is mostly good   ;)
#5
Quote from: Rossfan on November 27, 2018, 11:30:50 AM
Teach forwards how to tackle and keep them up the field.
Few things more uncomfortable than a corner back with the ball under pressure  :D
The game has been turned into soccer with hands.
At least in soccer the ball is relatively loose all the time but we have allowed the man with ball in hand to do anything he likes with it.
If we leave that as it is then we need to bring in a tackle on the man.
This is the key point! The ball must be made more available/easily got by the team not in possession you make whatever changes are neededserve that objective. Hurling is great cos the ball is virtually always out there and easily got at. So an AussieRules smother tackle would help as would more kicking, as would banning the handpass ( its too easy to retain possession if you transfer the ball by handpass) and  enforcing the steps/ time in possession rule strictly. And a shot clock ( 2nd half only) would be easy to enforce if you designed a special stopwatch for GAA refs with a timed alarmed  stop clock button Use technology
#6
No surprise the sheep said baa to all 5 rules No brains involved Just do what the politburo tells you
Farce will result with 2 hand pass kick back til your in your own square and panic kick or a wrestling 🤼‍♀️  match develops 20 m mark is far to short Remember the philosophers football match in Monty Python that is what we'll get now. Slow and boring
So what to do? I say
1. Ban the handpass fist pass only (less reliable so encourages kicking)
2. Kick-out from small square no possession until over 20m line (scare the keepers into long kicks)
3. 30m (approx)Mark from all kickout outs (over 45m line) frees and sidelines ( not open play - clearer easy to ref distance wise etc.) and
4. 2 minute shot clock in 2nd half and any further time ( maybe 1 min in final added and extra time)

We want people to try to score quicker and release the ball more often surely?

The currently proposed rules will have the opposite effect with slower games, more confusion, more frustration, more rows fights and time wasting.

Talk about handing the game over to rugby and soccer (with soccer also able to deal honestly with gratuitous violence).

GAA is writing its own death warrant.
#7
Will this rule still apply at U12?
#8
Quote from: Rossfan on October 05, 2018, 07:25:16 PM
If someone is wandering about with ball in their hands they deserve to be tackled by as many as possible.
When we have less possession and more moving of the ball we'll have a better spectacle.
This is crucial
Making the ball available (ie. not held in someone's stomach) is key to a good game. So yes enforce steps/ time of poscession rule but also encourage kicking and don't make short passing so easy or open to throwing. Easy solution ban the handpass so back to closed fistpass (not so reliable or easy to to be accurate) That alone would encourage kicking and with fistpass mistakes make the ball more easily available/ tranferred to other team thus answer issue raised by Clerkin article in Irish Times today. Soccer is boring shite because of tip tapping around and Gaelic Football is getting as bad with the word  'patience' being used to excuse the severely decreasing number possession changes per match. So make it less easy to retain possession via hard enforcement of 4 step rule and ban handpass entirely.
#9
Quote from: Tony Baloney on October 02, 2018, 02:07:44 PM
Quote from: Evil Genius on October 02, 2018, 11:54:41 AM
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Quote from: Orchard park on September 06, 2018, 05:59:54 PM
Quote from: five points on September 06, 2018, 02:09:29 PM
Quote...our members throughout Ulster and further afield should not be disadvantaged by the ongoing absence of a modern fit for purpose home for the GAA in the city of Belfast.

A mower. Two sets of goalposts. Some line paint. About five dozen terrace barriers.

Then open up the bloody place again for 2019 at least.

Correct

It probably wouldn't be just that simple because of the damage done but a few grand should definitely get it playable and it appears to be the only feasible option at the moment.
It really isn't that simple.

For example, Glentoran's ground, The Oval, could realistically accommodate 25k, but H&S/Council licensing currently restricts it to 6,050. And whilst it's been "on life support" for some years now, it's still in considerably better condition than Casement:


As Antrim are sometimes (erroneously) referred to as "The Glensmen", is there any chance of a ground share?  :D
Andy Tyrie's youngfella says "NO"
#10
What are the punishments for breaking these new rules? What I saw were bizarre. Kick-out stuff seriously mad

Imagine herding the lads up and down the pitch at U16 or Junior B

Wet night no lines, no flags, no umpires or lines persona Only crowd a bunch of mad parents and 2 hairy gorilla mentors.

Great craic and the match lasting longer than an American football match but no ads with young fellas/girls running up down and off the pitch leaving 4 static freezing in the middle with kick-outs going only 15m in the mud (now what do we do?). All booked better than Throne champo!

That's the way to encourage the 95% ordinary players young and old but sure aren't the rule committee going on RTE to explain it (Are any of them from Throne?)
Media rule KO virtual reality (is there an App for it? Written for Amstrads or Commodore 64s)
#11
Quote from: seafoid on September 26, 2018, 08:38:48 PM
Quote from: APM on September 25, 2018, 02:52:43 PM
Quote from: Owen Brannigan on September 23, 2018, 09:08:16 PM
Brolly has consistently hammered Tyrone in his columns in the Indo.

Com O'Rourke has been behind in ladling out the criticism of Tyrone football in his columns.

Recently Ewan McKenna has tackled Mickey Harte and issues relating to Sean Cavanagh.

Today Dermot Crowe goes even further with this article.....

https://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/remembering-the-tragic-death-of-a-tyrone-gaa-fan-at-a-minor-game-in-1977-and-where-violence-can-take-us-37345116.html

Wise up! Firstly, Tyrone made it to the AIF so they have a higher profile and will attract more coverage. Also, you'd have to imagine that as far as the media are concerned, Tyrone is the gift that keeps on giving.  They don't need to go after them, Tyrone just keep scoring own goals:

  • Not talking to RTE
  • Narrowing pitches
  • Questionable Tactics
  • Players bringing out books with controversial passages
  • Manager bringing out books with controversial passages
  • Saying the rosary together
  • Using gaelic football to promote political / religious views
  • Boxing the heads of each other in the club championship

Every county goes through phases of attracting negative attention from the media.  It's Tyrone's turn at the moment.
Tyrone are quite quirky alright but most people do not care about them or any other county

My mother's family narrowed a field in East Tyrone. They also said the rosary together. My uncles fought each other on the way to school. My father wrote a controversial letter to the Irish News. They sang the Soldier's Song at the start of football matches (sometimes) and watched a Bishop throw in a ball in Dublin. They didn't talk to RTE either.
#12
Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on September 25, 2018, 10:03:34 AM
Quote from: chieftain on September 25, 2018, 09:56:43 AM
Quote from: Puckoon on September 24, 2018, 09:31:02 PM
In addition, what frankly sticks in the craw is that Dermot Crowe doesn't give one flying fcuk about Barney Horisk, or Paddy Hughes, or their families.

It's quite a gutter tactic to draw attention to a conversation that is already in full flow.

+1

Absolute gutter trash writing. No thought for the people of these families.
So they ignore the only fatality on an Irish sports pitch in an article about on field violence?
Jones Road 1921
#13
And did you see the penalties proposed for the 5 rule changes to the experimented with in league?
Bizarre
2 hour games as all the U16 run around trying to sort themselves out and be counted at the kickouts and the defending team can't touch a kickout before it crosses the 45m line ( Is this really what they suggest? ) All this on a park pitch with no lines and no flags!
Pure farce
Again if you want to test these changes do it at Junior B.
This stupid media driven elitist approach is the end of Gaelic football No players just playing for fun ( ie. 95%) No children will want anything to do with this game if this approach prevails Shot clock very simple compared to this nonsense

#14
Quote from: trailer on October 02, 2018, 07:33:45 PM
Quote from: cjx on October 02, 2018, 10:36:14 AM
More convinced than ever that as in basketball in '70s shot clock is the only answer. In 2nd half
2 min

In final added time/extra time 1 min

All goalkeeper kickouts from small rectangle. Inhibits short kick outs

Revert to fistpass (as was faced up in 1950s after the Antrim 1946-48 team hardly ever kicked the ball in open play)

Mark from all free's, kick-outs and sidelines

Trying to police exclusion zones or back passing impossible! Remember club should be king and think Junior Championship on a muddy winter pitch

Shot clock won't work. It will never work. It will never be implemented.

I would like a shot clock on people suggesting a 'shot clock' It is suggested weekly at this stage. 
It's the idea people who probably have never played the game or people who have little understanding of basketball or sport in general. It's the "I've been down the pub and a few people were chatting about Gaelic football and to show my knowledge of all things sports related, I'll suggest a shot clock rule change so I fit in" suggestion.

Why wouldn't a shot clock work? Give reasons don't just shoot down. Does it work in Basketball? Yes. Is Football like basketball? Yes! Keep ball is getting ludicrous heading the way of the most boring soccer only worse and far too easy with an ill defined badly reffed tackle as well)
What is your solution Something  positive please.
#15
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 06, 2018, 04:39:59 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on September 06, 2018, 04:30:07 PM
Quote from: trailer on September 06, 2018, 02:20:07 PM
Quote from: angermanagement on September 06, 2018, 01:49:05 PM
Quote from: trailer on September 06, 2018, 01:38:05 PM
Belfast isn't the spot for this stadium.

Firstly the residents don't want it.
It's too far for people coming from the west and has very poor infrastructure.

A complete rethink is needed. Sell it off for housing. Find a greenfield site and build something suitable that will cater for games with 40k - 50k spectators, concerts and other events.

Bin Casement.

The money is only available for Casement. If it's not Casement there will be no stadium.

Even if the government was in place, would the new plans even meet health and safety requirements?

The Ulster Council and SF have made a complete bollix of the whole process from the very start.

Open to correction but I believe the money is available for a Stadium in the 6 counties. It doesn't have to be Casement. They already looked at the Maze site.

Greater Belfast area was the term used in the report IIRC.

This stadium won't survive on GAA games alone and will need to pull in a few concerts and that won't happen if the stadium is built out the back end of beyond.

Nathan Carter would fill it for all the country boys up da country !

West Brits of West Belfast killed it. Will GAA or anyone be allowed give major grants to non EU state after Brexit