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#1
Quote from: whitey on March 28, 2024, 11:42:17 PMI get it

Any any all complaints/concerns regarding migrants/refugees/asylum seekers are driven by racism or stupidity or both

If you're a taxpayer how dare you question the funneling of hundreds of millions in taxpayer money to immigration when basic services such as healthcare, law enforcement and education go unfounded

Should be an interesting election season 



I think the point is why are you not as agitated about other perhaps more significant issues such as the aforementioned tax evasion on the likes of the Healthcare, law enforcement etc if you can explain that, then people might be less likely to label you as potentially racist for constantly referring it back to immigration.
#2
General discussion / Re: The Fine Gael thread
March 28, 2024, 11:31:41 PM
Quote from: whitey on March 28, 2024, 10:29:11 PM
Quote from: JoG2 on March 28, 2024, 10:15:19 PM
Quote from: whitey on March 28, 2024, 09:02:15 PM
Quote from: Itchy on March 28, 2024, 08:39:57 PM
Quote from: Armagh18 on March 28, 2024, 08:36:35 PM
Quote from: Truthsayer on March 28, 2024, 07:11:15 PM
Quote from: Snapchap on March 28, 2024, 06:55:58 PM
Quote from: whitey on March 28, 2024, 06:22:08 PMSo if I understand you correctly, in your view, ALL concerns regarding immigration are driven by either racism or stupidity (or both)?

And if the answer is yes-do you support open borders?

All concerns? Not in the slightest. But anyone who regards it as a priority or anything close to one, or who spends more time obsessing about it than about they do about health, education, taxation etc...Well you have to question their motivation.


After all, other than racism or stupidity, why would anyone be angry enough to take to the streets, or to base their voting decisions in protest about immigration ahead of in protest about the state of the health service, or housing crisis, or tax evasion by the super wealthy etc etc etc?
Hear hear... is a very useful distraction used by FG and Tories from those other more pressing issues
Seeing millions being spent on housing refugees etc is bound to (rightly or wrongly) piss people off when they can see the state of things like the roads, hospitals, schools etc. low hanging fruit for a protest vote.

Screaming far right doesn't help.

Hospitals have been a shambles long before a refugee was about the place. If you blame hospital issues on refugees it's as simple as this, you are a racist.

And we were told that there was no money to fix hospitals..........and yet we have hundreds of millions (if not billions) to house, feed and clothe refugees

There's towns and villages that don't have a single Guard-and yet we have hundreds of millions (if not billions) to house, feed and clothe refugees

38000 people have been waiting for more than 18 months for a scan yet we have hundreds of millions (if not billions) to house, feed and clothe refugees

10,000 disabled kids have been waiting for more than a year to get an appt to see a specialist and yet we somehow have hundreds of millions (if not billions) to house, feed and clothe refugees

People are rightly outraged and it has shag all to do with racism

I hear it's closer to trillions. You forgot to shoehorn the homeless in there. You've a huge heart caring so deeply about so so many

So please explain the "crackdown" for me on people arriving without passports?

Why was a "crackdown" needed if the law was being rigorously enforced to begin with?

Was Helen McEntee a racist for enforcing a "crackdown" and enforcing pre existing laws?

Is Helen McEntee "far right"?

Explain why the welfare payments for Ukrainians were cut in half-if they weren't overly generous to begin with

Was it racist or far right to cut the payments in half?
Crackdown is often used when readdressing focus onto an issue. You often hear of a crackdown on drugs, a crackdown on drink driving, a crackdown on speeding etc. there's currently a crackdown on dodgy boxes ffs. It happens in all areas of law enforcement.
#3
General discussion / Re: Weather
March 28, 2024, 11:22:53 PM
Quote from: clarshack on March 28, 2024, 04:22:17 PM
Quote from: trueblue1234 on March 28, 2024, 04:14:13 PM
Quote from: Armagh18 on March 28, 2024, 10:45:28 AMGlobal warming my hole, cold wet and miserable March.
Except for the fact last year was the hottest on record globally.


Some people need to understand weather and climate.

Not here it wasn't as I can mind debating whether (pardon the pun) or not to put on the fire last Summer which i'd never done in any summer prior.
Doesn't Weather refer to short term atmospheric conditions? cos it's been shite for a good while now.
It was. It was the warmest here since records started. But I'd give that stat a by ball if it wasn't also the warmest year globally as well.
#4
General discussion / Re: Weather
March 28, 2024, 04:14:13 PM
Quote from: Armagh18 on March 28, 2024, 10:45:28 AMGlobal warming my hole, cold wet and miserable March.
Except for the fact last year was the hottest on record globally.


Some people need to understand weather and climate.
#5
GAA Discussion / Re: NFL Division 1 2024
March 24, 2024, 09:11:16 PM
Dublin were just taking a break to let the divide the county in 2 talk die down. They'll wrap up the next 3 and then throw the rest of us a bone for a year or two to keep up appearances.

In reality, Derry and Kerry are the only two who can foster any hope against them. The rest of us are just making up numbers. I'm glad we stole that Covid AI now, takes the bad look of us.
#6
General discussion / Re: Insurance
March 22, 2024, 10:40:05 PM
Quote from: DuffleKing on March 22, 2024, 10:29:49 PMI'm not sure there does... if someone doesn't take out insurance then they are personally liable if a claim comes?

They need to produce either the settlement amount or what is arrived at by a court or face the consequences?
That would mean a court case for each claim instead being managed by the insurance companies. Solicitors would be rubbing their hands and would be the only winners. Not to mention the delays in settling claims. Plus what if the person who hit you couldnt  afford the repairs. The none fault driver would still shoulder the costs. It's just not workable. At least now there is the MIB that covers uninsured drivers. It's funded from insurance companies. No insurance companies, mean no MIB.
And that's before you look at injuries. You get paralysed with a potential claim that could be easily 6 figures. How to you start chasing that?
#7
General discussion / Re: Insurance
March 22, 2024, 10:20:48 PM
Quote from: DuffleKing on March 22, 2024, 02:26:31 PMOn the back of the "Extortion" thread, I thought I woulkd ask a question I have always wondered about.

Is it actually legal to compel people to purchase insurance on, for example, motor vehicles. Has this ever been challenged?

The "must do" aspect of insurance is a huge bonus to an industry already mired in monopolies and questionable practice.
But how would you manage none fault accidents without it? Imagine getting a new car and it's hit by someone with no insurance and can't afford the cost of repairs/ replacement. The system isn't perfect but there needs to be a system.
#8
GAA Discussion / Re: RG at arms length
March 22, 2024, 09:57:34 AM
Is it a classic example of the GAA acknowledging that gaa managers aren't in it for just the love of the game without actually coming out and saying that?
I'm trying to think of players who have been banned for any convictions? Are the gaa, off the record, treating managers to a higher level of scrutiny than players because they are making money on their involvement with the gaa.
Whole lot of worms spilling over the place. That said, the GAA would have faced a backlash if they had done nothing as well. Sometimes there's no way to win.
#9
GAA Discussion / Re: NFL Division 1 2024
March 22, 2024, 09:46:14 AM
I don't think anyone genuinely thinks it wasn't deliberate. But proving that is the issue.
Was a nasty act, he got his ban, time to move on. Won't be the last deliberate/ not deliberate discussion this year.
#10
GAA Discussion / Re: NFL Division 1 2024
March 18, 2024, 02:53:07 PM
That's nasty looking alright. No doubt bout intent there.
#11
Only themselves to blame. Tough way to lose!!
#12
General discussion / Re: The SDLP
March 17, 2024, 06:02:24 PM
Quote from: seafoid on March 17, 2024, 05:56:15 PM
Quote from: trueblue1234 on March 17, 2024, 05:53:00 PM
Quote from: seafoid on March 17, 2024, 05:41:29 PM
Quote from: trueblue1234 on March 17, 2024, 05:03:55 PM
Quote from: seafoid on March 17, 2024, 04:29:09 PM
Quote from: trueblue1234 on March 16, 2024, 08:51:59 PM
Quote from: seafoid on March 16, 2024, 08:41:52 PM
Quote from: trueblue1234 on March 16, 2024, 08:31:57 PM
Quote from: seafoid on March 16, 2024, 08:25:53 PM
Quote from: trueblue1234 on March 16, 2024, 08:18:16 PM
Quote from: seafoid on March 16, 2024, 07:12:56 PM
Quote from: marty34 on March 16, 2024, 07:07:38 PM
Quote from: seafoid on March 16, 2024, 07:01:35 PM
Quote from: Sportacus on March 16, 2024, 06:39:52 PM
Quote from: seafoid on March 16, 2024, 04:37:13 PM
Quote from: Sportacus on March 16, 2024, 03:04:51 PM
Quote from: seafoid on March 16, 2024, 02:09:28 PM
Quote from: Sportacus on March 16, 2024, 01:45:28 PM
Quote from: seafoid on March 16, 2024, 11:00:59 AMSF got a review in the Financial times :
A referendum in 10 years but  only the Brits can  call one and they will only do so if there is big shift in public opinion

SF is gaslighting voters on unity. It will happen but not when SF want it to happen.
It's not completely outlandish for SF to aspire to unity in a decade. Less than a decade ago it would have seemed unlikely that Brexit would happen or Trump would get to the White House, but circumstances conspired and they did happen.
It is not under SF's control . That is the point.
They can promise all they want but they cannot deliver
That's right, it's not directly under their control, obviously, but somebody has to talk about it as a serious proposition, because it is plausible.
It will happen when the UK economy collapses, unionist pensions vaporise and house prices in Ballymena go tits up. Not before
None of those things will happen. It will happen when the majority of people are in favour of what's on offer on the island, rather than having things done to them from London. Every year that the pendulum swings a little more.
The UK economy is going to collapse. The UK is borrowing money to pay the bills.

I've been hearing this for a long time...and no word of it yet.
There is a thing called the current account deficit
It happens when a country cannot pay all of its bills.
The UK has had a current account deficit for the last decade.
Truss wanted to issue debt that wasn't backed by taxes and the markets refused to lend it to her.

https://tradingeconomics.com/united-kingdom/current-account-to-gdp

https://www.cnbc.com/video/2022/10/04/uk-governments-u-turn-on-tax-cut-wont-placate-markets-says-analyst.html
https://www.cnbc.com/video/2022/10/06/the-reality-is-the-uk-is-a-low-growth-ecobonmy-fund-manager.html
https://www.cnbc.com/video/2022/10/20/uks-political-instability-related-to-brexit-luxembourg-pm-says.html


What was ROI's current account deficit in 2010 Seafoid? And what is the UK's current deficit? Just to give a little perspective to things?
Ireland went through a very bad period and came out of it. The UK left the EU and has gone backwards.
The assessment is not based on one thing. Sterling is trading like the currency of a poor country. The UK is low growth economy. There is way too much debt.

People in Ireland were Unionist until something really shocking happened. That was 1916.
Unionists in the North will be loyal to the UK until something really shocking happens.

Did you get the figures? I can help you if you'd like.
Public dept in ROI was 100% of GDP in 2010.
Don't get me wrong things aren't rosey in the forecast for the UK. But they're still a strong market and talk of a collapse is bollix.

You don't have to agree with me but if you want to me to believe that it's bollocks you have to prove it. What data are basing your assessment on ?

The thing about the people who are calling the shots in the UK is that they don't care about anyone, not English people, not middle class people and not anyone living in the North. Unionists don't understand that yet but they will.  Brexit was not about freedom. It was about giving a small group of people the right to pump sewage into rivers.

The second verse of the UK national anthem is a warning

https://www.mylondon.news/news/uk-world-news/national-anthem-full-lyrics-including-25051609
 O Lord our God arise,
 scatter our* enemies, and make them fall!
Confound their politics, frustrate their knavish tricks,
on Thee our hopes we fix, God save us all.

lol you make a hyperbole claim. I disagreed and it's down to me to prove it?? Really?

By the way the figures you wouldn't quote earlier, ROI deficit was over 13% in 2010. Current deficit in Uk is around 3%. And reduced towards the end of 2023.


You say it won't collapse. Based on what ?
Give three reasons why it won't.

and "because" is not a valid answer



You made the claim ffs. You provide the 3 reasons. And fyi the wording of the national anthem will not be classed as a valid reason.
3 reasons are

1. Living beyond its means- current accouht deficit
2. Economic growth is slower thn the growth of debt 
3. Extreme inequality -  a few wealthy people who are very adept at avoiding tax can never ever make up for 10s of millions of people earning decent wages and spending that on goods and services.


What are your 3 ?

All 3 have been present in most economies at some point or another.

1- It's a trillion £ economy. It would take a hell of a crash.
2- deficit reduced at end of 2023 to 2.5% which is far from a large issue.
3- GDP is at higher rate in 2024 than 2023 showing signs of growth and reduced inflation.

All pointing in right direction albeit slowly.
Which deficit ?
Why is inflation higher in the UK than in France ?
Why should the size of the economy mean it is safe?
Current account deficit.
All economies have different inflations at different times? Do you think a higher level of inflation means that the economy is going to go bust? A larger economy tends to be more stable and will take a significant incidence to cause it to collapse.

So give me one genuine reason that you can point to that would suggest the UK economy will go bust?

#13
General discussion / Re: The SDLP
March 17, 2024, 05:53:00 PM
Quote from: seafoid on March 17, 2024, 05:41:29 PM
Quote from: trueblue1234 on March 17, 2024, 05:03:55 PM
Quote from: seafoid on March 17, 2024, 04:29:09 PM
Quote from: trueblue1234 on March 16, 2024, 08:51:59 PM
Quote from: seafoid on March 16, 2024, 08:41:52 PM
Quote from: trueblue1234 on March 16, 2024, 08:31:57 PM
Quote from: seafoid on March 16, 2024, 08:25:53 PM
Quote from: trueblue1234 on March 16, 2024, 08:18:16 PM
Quote from: seafoid on March 16, 2024, 07:12:56 PM
Quote from: marty34 on March 16, 2024, 07:07:38 PM
Quote from: seafoid on March 16, 2024, 07:01:35 PM
Quote from: Sportacus on March 16, 2024, 06:39:52 PM
Quote from: seafoid on March 16, 2024, 04:37:13 PM
Quote from: Sportacus on March 16, 2024, 03:04:51 PM
Quote from: seafoid on March 16, 2024, 02:09:28 PM
Quote from: Sportacus on March 16, 2024, 01:45:28 PM
Quote from: seafoid on March 16, 2024, 11:00:59 AMSF got a review in the Financial times :
A referendum in 10 years but  only the Brits can  call one and they will only do so if there is big shift in public opinion

SF is gaslighting voters on unity. It will happen but not when SF want it to happen.
It's not completely outlandish for SF to aspire to unity in a decade. Less than a decade ago it would have seemed unlikely that Brexit would happen or Trump would get to the White House, but circumstances conspired and they did happen.
It is not under SF's control . That is the point.
They can promise all they want but they cannot deliver
That's right, it's not directly under their control, obviously, but somebody has to talk about it as a serious proposition, because it is plausible.
It will happen when the UK economy collapses, unionist pensions vaporise and house prices in Ballymena go tits up. Not before
None of those things will happen. It will happen when the majority of people are in favour of what's on offer on the island, rather than having things done to them from London. Every year that the pendulum swings a little more.
The UK economy is going to collapse. The UK is borrowing money to pay the bills.

I've been hearing this for a long time...and no word of it yet.
There is a thing called the current account deficit
It happens when a country cannot pay all of its bills.
The UK has had a current account deficit for the last decade.
Truss wanted to issue debt that wasn't backed by taxes and the markets refused to lend it to her.

https://tradingeconomics.com/united-kingdom/current-account-to-gdp

https://www.cnbc.com/video/2022/10/04/uk-governments-u-turn-on-tax-cut-wont-placate-markets-says-analyst.html
https://www.cnbc.com/video/2022/10/06/the-reality-is-the-uk-is-a-low-growth-ecobonmy-fund-manager.html
https://www.cnbc.com/video/2022/10/20/uks-political-instability-related-to-brexit-luxembourg-pm-says.html


What was ROI's current account deficit in 2010 Seafoid? And what is the UK's current deficit? Just to give a little perspective to things?
Ireland went through a very bad period and came out of it. The UK left the EU and has gone backwards.
The assessment is not based on one thing. Sterling is trading like the currency of a poor country. The UK is low growth economy. There is way too much debt.

People in Ireland were Unionist until something really shocking happened. That was 1916.
Unionists in the North will be loyal to the UK until something really shocking happens.

Did you get the figures? I can help you if you'd like.
Public dept in ROI was 100% of GDP in 2010.
Don't get me wrong things aren't rosey in the forecast for the UK. But they're still a strong market and talk of a collapse is bollix.

You don't have to agree with me but if you want to me to believe that it's bollocks you have to prove it. What data are basing your assessment on ?

The thing about the people who are calling the shots in the UK is that they don't care about anyone, not English people, not middle class people and not anyone living in the North. Unionists don't understand that yet but they will.  Brexit was not about freedom. It was about giving a small group of people the right to pump sewage into rivers.

The second verse of the UK national anthem is a warning

https://www.mylondon.news/news/uk-world-news/national-anthem-full-lyrics-including-25051609
 O Lord our God arise,
 scatter our* enemies, and make them fall!
Confound their politics, frustrate their knavish tricks,
on Thee our hopes we fix, God save us all.

lol you make a hyperbole claim. I disagreed and it's down to me to prove it?? Really?

By the way the figures you wouldn't quote earlier, ROI deficit was over 13% in 2010. Current deficit in Uk is around 3%. And reduced towards the end of 2023.


You say it won't collapse. Based on what ?
Give three reasons why it won't.

and "because" is not a valid answer



You made the claim ffs. You provide the 3 reasons. And fyi the wording of the national anthem will not be classed as a valid reason.
3 reasons are

1. Living beyond its means- current accouht deficit
2. Economic growth is slower thn the growth of debt 
3. Extreme inequality -  a few wealthy people who are very adept at avoiding tax can never ever make up for 10s of millions of people earning decent wages and spending that on goods and services.


What are your 3 ?

All 3 have been present in most economies at some point or another.

1- It's a trillion £ economy. It would take a hell of a crash.
2- deficit reduced at end of 2023 to 2.5% which is far from a large issue.
3- GDP is at higher rate in 2024 than 2023 showing signs of growth and reduced inflation.

All pointing in right direction albeit slowly.
#14
General discussion / Re: The SDLP
March 17, 2024, 05:03:55 PM
Quote from: seafoid on March 17, 2024, 04:29:09 PM
Quote from: trueblue1234 on March 16, 2024, 08:51:59 PM
Quote from: seafoid on March 16, 2024, 08:41:52 PM
Quote from: trueblue1234 on March 16, 2024, 08:31:57 PM
Quote from: seafoid on March 16, 2024, 08:25:53 PM
Quote from: trueblue1234 on March 16, 2024, 08:18:16 PM
Quote from: seafoid on March 16, 2024, 07:12:56 PM
Quote from: marty34 on March 16, 2024, 07:07:38 PM
Quote from: seafoid on March 16, 2024, 07:01:35 PM
Quote from: Sportacus on March 16, 2024, 06:39:52 PM
Quote from: seafoid on March 16, 2024, 04:37:13 PM
Quote from: Sportacus on March 16, 2024, 03:04:51 PM
Quote from: seafoid on March 16, 2024, 02:09:28 PM
Quote from: Sportacus on March 16, 2024, 01:45:28 PM
Quote from: seafoid on March 16, 2024, 11:00:59 AMSF got a review in the Financial times :
A referendum in 10 years but  only the Brits can  call one and they will only do so if there is big shift in public opinion

SF is gaslighting voters on unity. It will happen but not when SF want it to happen.
It's not completely outlandish for SF to aspire to unity in a decade. Less than a decade ago it would have seemed unlikely that Brexit would happen or Trump would get to the White House, but circumstances conspired and they did happen.
It is not under SF's control . That is the point.
They can promise all they want but they cannot deliver
That's right, it's not directly under their control, obviously, but somebody has to talk about it as a serious proposition, because it is plausible.
It will happen when the UK economy collapses, unionist pensions vaporise and house prices in Ballymena go tits up. Not before
None of those things will happen. It will happen when the majority of people are in favour of what's on offer on the island, rather than having things done to them from London. Every year that the pendulum swings a little more.
The UK economy is going to collapse. The UK is borrowing money to pay the bills.

I've been hearing this for a long time...and no word of it yet.
There is a thing called the current account deficit
It happens when a country cannot pay all of its bills.
The UK has had a current account deficit for the last decade.
Truss wanted to issue debt that wasn't backed by taxes and the markets refused to lend it to her.

https://tradingeconomics.com/united-kingdom/current-account-to-gdp

https://www.cnbc.com/video/2022/10/04/uk-governments-u-turn-on-tax-cut-wont-placate-markets-says-analyst.html
https://www.cnbc.com/video/2022/10/06/the-reality-is-the-uk-is-a-low-growth-ecobonmy-fund-manager.html
https://www.cnbc.com/video/2022/10/20/uks-political-instability-related-to-brexit-luxembourg-pm-says.html


What was ROI's current account deficit in 2010 Seafoid? And what is the UK's current deficit? Just to give a little perspective to things?
Ireland went through a very bad period and came out of it. The UK left the EU and has gone backwards.
The assessment is not based on one thing. Sterling is trading like the currency of a poor country. The UK is low growth economy. There is way too much debt.

People in Ireland were Unionist until something really shocking happened. That was 1916.
Unionists in the North will be loyal to the UK until something really shocking happens.

Did you get the figures? I can help you if you'd like.
Public dept in ROI was 100% of GDP in 2010.
Don't get me wrong things aren't rosey in the forecast for the UK. But they're still a strong market and talk of a collapse is bollix.

You don't have to agree with me but if you want to me to believe that it's bollocks you have to prove it. What data are basing your assessment on ?

The thing about the people who are calling the shots in the UK is that they don't care about anyone, not English people, not middle class people and not anyone living in the North. Unionists don't understand that yet but they will.  Brexit was not about freedom. It was about giving a small group of people the right to pump sewage into rivers.

The second verse of the UK national anthem is a warning

https://www.mylondon.news/news/uk-world-news/national-anthem-full-lyrics-including-25051609
 O Lord our God arise,
 scatter our* enemies, and make them fall!
Confound their politics, frustrate their knavish tricks,
on Thee our hopes we fix, God save us all.

lol you make a hyperbole claim. I disagreed and it's down to me to prove it?? Really?

By the way the figures you wouldn't quote earlier, ROI deficit was over 13% in 2010. Current deficit in Uk is around 3%. And reduced towards the end of 2023.


You say it won't collapse. Based on what ?
Give three reasons why it won't.

and "because" is not a valid answer



You made the claim ffs. You provide the 3 reasons. And fyi the wording of the national anthem will not be classed as a valid reason.
#15
General discussion / Re: The SDLP
March 17, 2024, 04:13:48 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on March 17, 2024, 04:04:42 PM
Quote from: trueblue1234 on March 17, 2024, 03:57:22 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on March 17, 2024, 12:17:32 AM
Quote from: trueblue1234 on March 16, 2024, 08:51:59 PMBy the way the figures you wouldn't quote earlier, ROI deficit was over 13% in 2010. Current deficit in Uk is around 3%. And reduced towards the end of 2023.

2010 was a once in a generation or once in a lifetime crisis. 2023 and 2024 are merely periods of reduced growth. It is a bit like an individual, you can have a crisis and borrow, but if you are borrowing too much in ordinary years then you can run into problems,

You another one that thinks the uk is going bust then?

I didn't say that they were going to go bust, but they have less room for manoeuvre.

But I was discussing Seafoid hyperbole claims that the uk market would collapse. I don't think anyone was claiming they are in a fantastic position at the minute.