Down Club Hurling & Football

Started by Lecale2, November 10, 2006, 12:06:55 AM

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PAULD123

We definitely do not have the quality of player that most of the top ten or twelve sides have. But doesn't that make teamwork even more important? I do not see Down players playing as a cohesive unit. It doesn't look like they are following patterns of play.

Donegal came good in 2012 because they followed patterns of play, they were well drilled and worked together, they did not rely on individual talent. I know people will say that their individuals were better then than ours are now but that's not my point. The point is that a Donegal side that was smashed by Armagh came back to claim All-Ireland glory with players that were not as good across the 15 as some of their opponents. Their players improved as individuals after fully committing to working as a team

Gaelic football is an amazing team sport. A fast co-ordinated approach can level two teams up far quicker than almost any other of the major field sports.

Mourne Rover

Team named as Burns; O'Hagan, Wells, Collins; McAleenan, McKernan, Daniel Guinness; Mooney, Poland; Francis, Jerome Johnston, Maginn; Havern, O'Hare, Harrison.

We will certainly not start in this formation, and like Armagh there could still be changes. McArdle and Flynn are definitely losses and we have pace rather than size across the field. The Armagh side looks as though it as a distinct physical advantage but we will be hoping that our manager reads it better along the way.

Smurfy123

If that's the first 15 I will eat my hat. 9 forwards starting. I'll give Tally that he fair shakes it up. When was the last time a Carryduff man started? Greg in 97/98?

Smurfy123

Give over hardstation ya tube. Go back to the Antrim board. Trying to run down a great. Give over

thewobbler


Cuan12

If that's the team, I would say we will win, it's not blind optimism but  having watched these players we have a very capable forward line and if we can use paces do guile to beat brawn there will be some on here who will have eat their words. Armagh are no world beaters , they like us have been struggling but we can lift our game and get a result, Down to win by 2-4 points, Tally's no how, decent weather and a fast game will help us get a result but the kick outs are so important.Minors can also win, some exciting talent on show.
So lads get of the teams back, regardless where the players are from , support the team and lastly Greg Blaney was a devoted and talented hurler and footballer who played football for Ballycran and Carryduff.Having been brought up in Ballycran he obviously would say he's from Ballycran but he was special, silly arguement really !!



SamFever

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Adrian Scullion.
Bellaghy

Would you describe Dan McCartan in 2010 as Tullylish?
Maybe just Donaghacloney or Ballyholland being Newry as in Pats Carryout Newry

Mourne Rover

Losing at home to Armagh in the championship for the first time in over sixty years is never going to be a good day but the way we rallied when the game seemed gone, and then probably should have gone on to win it in extra time, was hugely impressive and indicated that we may have a team again within a year or two.

While a couple of individual errors of judgment cost us dearly, Tally did a brilliant job tactically and kept his head when McGeeney was all over the place in the closing stages. We can also feel pretty hard done by as it was very hard to see how a head high tackle from Mooney was a red while a hand straight into the face from O'Neill was only a yellow as he went on to be man of the match. Havern may have handled on the ground in the very last play but he was almost certainly fouled first and, with Armagh panicking, anything could have happened from a long free into the square

The most impressive aspect for us was the way the younger players stepped up to the mark, through Daniel Guinness, Francis and Havern from the start and James Guinness, Quinn and McCabe coming off the bench. They all made mistakes under pressure along the way but they look like the best group of emerging talent we have had for a decade.

Throw in excellent displays from both O'Hagans, McAleenan, McKernan, O'Hare and Harrison and we might yet have a run in the qualfiers with the right draw.

Tally's set up meant Armagh did not have any real midfield advantage before Mooney's dismissal and he came up with a decent plan for 14 men as well. Burns had a fine game with some excellent kick-outs until he got over confident and went on one run too many resulting in his black card.

Wells tried hard at full back but struggled throughout and we have very few alternatives there after the injuries to Donnelly and McArdle. A call to McGovern may be unlikely but is still worth considering.

However, there is every prospect that this squad is going to improve both this summer and in the coming season. Tally proved his capabilitiies today and, with the players buying into his approach, some heartening progress is definitely on the cards.

ApresMatch

Mooney's tackle was reckless and dangerous; O'Neill's was a tap and not dangerous. Fair play to Down though, battled like dogs!

thewobbler

Quote from: ApresMatch on May 19, 2019, 10:56:59 PM
Mooney's tackle was reckless and dangerous; O'Neill's was a tap and not dangerous. Fair play to Down though, battled like dogs!

I can't see it like that. Mooney was travelling at speed and his opponent turned and ducked at speed. Happens at least once in every game of football. There's more malice and intent in almost any shoulder tackle.

Ed Hardy

Quote from: Mourne Rover on May 19, 2019, 10:11:15 PM
Losing at home to Armagh in the championship for the first time in over sixty years is never going to be a good day but the way we rallied when the game seemed gone, and then probably should have gone on to win it in extra time, was hugely impressive and indicated that we may have a team again within a year or two.

While a couple of individual errors of judgment cost us dearly, Tally did a brilliant job tactically and kept his head when McGeeney was all over the place in the closing stages. We can also feel pretty hard done by as it was very hard to see how a head high tackle from Mooney was a red while a hand straight into the face from O'Neill was only a yellow as he went on to be man of the match. Havern may have handled on the ground in the very last play but he was almost certainly fouled first and, with Armagh panicking, anything could have happened from a long free into the square

The most impressive aspect for us was the way the younger players stepped up to the mark, through Daniel Guinness, Francis and Havern from the start and James Guinness, Quinn and McCabe coming off the bench. They all made mistakes under pressure along the way but they look like the best group of emerging talent we have had for a decade.

Throw in excellent displays from both O'Hagans, McAleenan, McKernan, O'Hare and Harrison and we might yet have a run in the qualfiers with the right draw.

Tally's set up meant Armagh did not have any real midfield advantage before Mooney's dismissal and he came up with a decent plan for 14 men as well. Burns had a fine game with some excellent kick-outs until he got over confident and went on one run too many resulting in his black card.

Wells tried hard at full back but struggled throughout and we have very few alternatives there after the injuries to Donnelly and McArdle. A call to McGovern may be unlikely but is still worth considering.

However, there is every prospect that this squad is going to improve both this summer and in the coming season. Tally proved his capabilitiies today and, with the players buying into his approach, some heartening progress is definitely on the cards.

Is he back in the country?

ApresMatch

Similar to rugby, Caolan, as the tackler, has a responsibility to his opponent when tackling. He's coming in too quick from the front. You can come in that quick from the side but not the front in todays game with referees now looking for dangerous play around the head. Mooney seemed to know straight away he was in bother.

Ulsterman09

Really missing the presence of a natural strong full back, both McGovern and Doherty are big misses.