Ulster Championship 2020

[lenny]

Ref gives a penalty after consulting with the umpire for a pickup off the ground.

Weren't there posters saying this couldn't be done three weeks ago?

Good refereeing again, he made the right decision. Same as the Donegal Tyrone game the correct decision made. This time the down man clearly lifts the ball off the ground. In the other game the Donegal man doesn't touch the ball on the ground with his hands. It does touch his elbow but not his hands.

[Angelo]

Ref gives a penalty after consulting with the umpire for a pickup off the ground.

Weren't there posters saying this couldn't be done three weeks ago?

Yes it can't be done. My assuming is that the ref had made his decision it was a penalty at the least but wanted to make sure the ball hadn't crossed the line legally to award a goal instead. But looking at the other decisions he made during the game, Down mark inside 45 leading to goal, Cavan getting a free for their winning point despite clearly touching the ball on the ground, i wouldn't be surprised if he didn't know what his decision was.

He blew up with issuing any signal and consulted with the umpire.

He acted on his umpire's word.

He made the right decision, if that happened in Ballybofey a couple of weeks ago then Tyrone would have got a penalty.

[Milltown Row2]

Ref gives a penalty after consulting with the umpire for a pickup off the ground.

Weren't there posters saying this couldn't be done three weeks ago?

Was the wrong call, Cavan fullforward came from behind the line, so two technical fouls

As for the umpires it's still not their call, they didn't blow the whistle, so the question is why did the ref blow?

[Angelo]

Ref gives a penalty after consulting with the umpire for a pickup off the ground.

Weren't there posters saying this couldn't be done three weeks ago?

Good refereeing again, he made the right decision. Same as the Donegal Tyrone game the correct decision made. This time the down man clearly lifts the ball off the ground. In the other game the Donegal man doesn't touch the ball on the ground with his hands. It does touch his elbow but not his hands.

The old Derry bitterness getting in your way again Lenny, what else would you expect from a Derry man that spends more time lurking around the Tyrone forums than following his own county - it's no wonder Derry football is at an all time low.

It was a certain penalty in Ballybofey, you need to learn the rules.

[Angelo]

Ref gives a penalty after consulting with the umpire for a pickup off the ground.

Weren't there posters saying this couldn't be done three weeks ago?

Was the wrong call, Cavan fullforward came from behind the line, so two technical fouls

As for the umpires it's still not their call, they didn't blow the whistle, so the question is why did the ref blow?

He went to his umpire before making the call, the foul committed was a pick up off the ground and that's what the penalty was awarded for after consultation with the umpire.

If the same thing had happened in Ballybofey it was a Tyrone penalty.

[Milltown Row2]

Ref gives a penalty after consulting with the umpire for a pickup off the ground.

Weren't there posters saying this couldn't be done three weeks ago?

Was the wrong call, Cavan fullforward came from behind the line, so two technical fouls

As for the umpires it's still not their call, they didn't blow the whistle, so the question is why did the ref blow?

He went to his umpire before making the call, the foul committed was a pick up off the ground and that's what the penalty was awarded for after consultation with the umpire.

If the same thing had happened in Ballybofey it was a Tyrone penalty.

He blew his whistle. The umpires don't have whistles, you do know that? The umpires don't make those decisions, you know the rules?

[Angelo]

Ref gives a penalty after consulting with the umpire for a pickup off the ground.

Weren't there posters saying this couldn't be done three weeks ago?

Was the wrong call, Cavan fullforward came from behind the line, so two technical fouls

As for the umpires it's still not their call, they didn't blow the whistle, so the question is why did the ref blow?

He went to his umpire before making the call, the foul committed was a pick up off the ground and that's what the penalty was awarded for after consultation with the umpire.

If the same thing had happened in Ballybofey it was a Tyrone penalty.

He blew his whistle. The umpires don't have whistles, you do know that? The umpires don't make those decisions, you know the rules?

Yes.

He blew his whistle and made no signal. He went to his umpire and asked him what he saw and gave a penalty as a result.

If there referee does the same in Ballybofey it's a Tyrone penalty.

[tintin25]

Ref gives a penalty after consulting with the umpire for a pickup off the ground.

Weren't there posters saying this couldn't be done three weeks ago?

Was the wrong call, Cavan fullforward came from behind the line, so two technical fouls

As for the umpires it's still not their call, they didn't blow the whistle, so the question is why did the ref blow?

He went to his umpire before making the call, the foul committed was a pick up off the ground and that's what the penalty was awarded for after consultation with the umpire.

If the same thing had happened in Ballybofey it was a Tyrone penalty.

He blew his whistle. The umpires don't have whistles, you do know that? The umpires don't make those decisions, you know the rules?

So the penalty shouldn't have stood?  Didn't know the rule about coming from behind the line.

[Milltown Row2]

Ref gives a penalty after consulting with the umpire for a pickup off the ground.

Weren't there posters saying this couldn't be done three weeks ago?

Was the wrong call, Cavan fullforward came from behind the line, so two technical fouls

As for the umpires it's still not their call, they didn't blow the whistle, so the question is why did the ref blow?

He went to his umpire before making the call, the foul committed was a pick up off the ground and that's what the penalty was awarded for after consultation with the umpire.

If the same thing had happened in Ballybofey it was a Tyrone penalty.

He blew his whistle. The umpires don't have whistles, you do know that? The umpires don't make those decisions, you know the rules?

So the penalty shouldn't have stood?  Didn't know the rule about coming from behind the line.

Was outside the line to gain advantage free out. But hey Angelo will tell me different, he knows the rules ya know!

[Angelo]

Ref gives a penalty after consulting with the umpire for a pickup off the ground.

Weren't there posters saying this couldn't be done three weeks ago?

Was the wrong call, Cavan fullforward came from behind the line, so two technical fouls

As for the umpires it's still not their call, they didn't blow the whistle, so the question is why did the ref blow?

He went to his umpire before making the call, the foul committed was a pick up off the ground and that's what the penalty was awarded for after consultation with the umpire.

If the same thing had happened in Ballybofey it was a Tyrone penalty.

He blew his whistle. The umpires don't have whistles, you do know that? The umpires don't make those decisions, you know the rules?

So the penalty shouldn't have stood?  Didn't know the rule about coming from behind the line.

Was outside the line to gain advantage free out. But hey Angelo will tell me different, he knows the rules ya know!

You're a bit sour. You told us the umpire had no role in award penalties for handling the ball on the ground.

Maybe you should inform the referee today on that.

[Milltown Row2]

I said the ref got it wrong.. whatever way you want to look at it.. umpires have no authority. I really don't see how you can keep making things up that ain't true

[up the rovers]

Ref gives a penalty after consulting with the umpire for a pickup off the ground.

Weren't there posters saying this couldn't be done three weeks ago?

Was the wrong call, Cavan fullforward came from behind the line, so two technical fouls

As for the umpires it's still not their call, they didn't blow the whistle, so the question is why did the ref blow?

He went to his umpire before making the call, the foul committed was a pick up off the ground and that's what the penalty was awarded for after consultation with the umpire.

If the same thing had happened in Ballybofey it was a Tyrone penalty.

He blew his whistle. The umpires don't have whistles, you do know that? The umpires don't make those decisions, you know the rules?

So the penalty shouldn't have stood?  Didn't know the rule about coming from behind the line.

Was outside the line to gain advantage free out. But hey Angelo will tell me different, he knows the rules ya know!

Does that apply in hurling Milltown? And if so when did the rule change? We were always coached to stand behind the line for 70s and keep the ball in play if it was going wide. Never saw it blew for a free in my life. Saw it blew for a square ball if you came into play too soon but that's another rule.

[Milltown Row2]

Ref gives a penalty after consulting with the umpire for a pickup off the ground.

Weren't there posters saying this couldn't be done three weeks ago?

Was the wrong call, Cavan fullforward came from behind the line, so two technical fouls

As for the umpires it's still not their call, they didn't blow the whistle, so the question is why did the ref blow?

He went to his umpire before making the call, the foul committed was a pick up off the ground and that's what the penalty was awarded for after consultation with the umpire.

If the same thing had happened in Ballybofey it was a Tyrone penalty.

He blew his whistle. The umpires don't have whistles, you do know that? The umpires don't make those decisions, you know the rules?

So the penalty shouldn't have stood?  Didn't know the rule about coming from behind the line.

Was outside the line to gain advantage free out. But hey Angelo will tell me different, he knows the rules ya know!

Does that apply in hurling Milltown? And if so when did the rule change? We were always coached to stand behind the line for 70s and keep the ball in play if it was going wide. Never saw it blew for a free in my life. Saw it blew for a square ball if you came into play too soon but that's another rule.

A good while now, it's one of those questions that comes up when we are doing our rules test practicing

[lenny]

I said the ref got it wrong.. whatever way you want to look at it.. umpires have no authority. I really don't see how you can keep making things up that ain't true

It's just sour grapes from Angela. Donegal were far the better side v Tyrone and he's clutching at the few straws he can get his hands on. Well done to Cavan today. Brilliant comeback. Down have some fast young players and they're improving also.

[tonto1888]

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