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Down / Re: Down Club Hurling & Football
« on: January 16, 2023, 07:41:00 PM »
I see a proposal to include Burren & Carryduff 2nds in the ACFL has been released.
The wording of the conclusion certainly does not portray a neutral stance awaiting a vote.
Reading it would suggest a deal has already been done behind closed doors to include these teams.
If these parishes have grown so big that 1 club cannot accommodate the playing numbers then maybe its time to form a 2nd club within the parish with its own youth structure, committee, pitch, and facilities therefore giving them the right to compete with junior clubs and grow accordingly.
Junior clubs work hard to maintain stand alone facilities and provide Gaelic games in challenging circumstances with limited numbers. The last thing these clubs need is to have moral sapping defeats at the hands of clubs who are drawing players from all areas. There is a real risk of junior clubs failing to field ( as we have seen with Mitchels ) when players walk away following such defeats. Adult players will be lost to other sports with underage players having no footsteps to follow, with the potential for smaller clubs going the way of Ballykinlar and Killyleagh.
We should protect the weak and not allow these superpowers to steamroll our smaller clubs.
Conclusion: Down GAA will lose a lot more from the smaller clubs than the 20 plus players wanting to represent Burren & Carryduff who could quite easily go back to play for their home clubs.
 

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Down / Re: Down Club Hurling & Football
« on: November 21, 2022, 07:53:33 PM »
Are there many senior teams throughout the league still searching for a management team?

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Down / Re: Down Club Hurling & Football
« on: October 30, 2022, 10:41:01 AM »
Tough Leagues in Down for 2023.
Division 2 will be extremely competitive.

Division 1 (10 Teams)    
Kilcoo                     
Burren                         
Mayobridge                
Clonduff                         
Loughinisland                 
Carryduff                         
Bryansford                     
Warrenpoint                 
Bredagh                     
Longstone

Division 2 (10 Teams)                        
RGU   
Ballyholand
Castlewellan
Rostrevor
Saval
Glenn
Saul   
Liatroim
Drumgath   
Newry Shamrocks   
         
Division 3 (10 Teams)    
An Riocht                        
Darragh Cross                 
Annaclone                         
St Johns                         
Ballymartin             
Tullylish                     
Clann na Banna                 
Attical                         
St Pauls                     
Drumaness             

Division 4 (13 Teams)                                
Teconnaught                                 
Newry Bosco                                 
Aughlisnafinn
Bright
Dundrum   
Kilclief
East Belfast
Dromara
Ardglass   
Aghaderg   
Glassdrumman   
St Michaels
Newry Mitchels   

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Down / Re: Down Club Hurling & Football
« on: September 24, 2022, 12:19:21 AM »
The lads had to improvise at what was going on in front of them, most of it was barely worth a mention. Well done to them both. 👏

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Down / Re: Down Club Hurling & Football
« on: May 29, 2022, 03:38:45 PM »
If rumours are true and James has stood down, could Micky Moran be talked into becoming the next Down manager with Conor Laverty on board?

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Down / Re: Down Club Hurling & Football
« on: May 24, 2022, 11:34:13 PM »
Can someone please explain the Junior Championship format? Are Teconnaught, Drumaness and Aghaderg/Glassdrumman straight into 1/4 Finals?

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Down / Re: Down Club Hurling & Football
« on: February 01, 2022, 10:54:23 PM »
What is the rush to get back to 10 teams per division???
We currently have 43 teams in the county and if Ballykinlar return it will be 44.
Is there anything wrong with have 4 x 11 team divisions with the odd team getting a bye each week?
Forget about taking a break in July and play twice a week if required.

You canít go changing league structures every 5 minutes. The leagues were set to 10 teams a few years ago and the only reason we have this situation is due to Covid. As with everything in the world, completely out of the ordinary and may take something uncomfortable or extraordinary to resolve the issue. Never going to suit everyone.

It was just a question! Keep your hair on!  ::)
Seems like the Down leagues have been chopped and changed plenty over the years and now the idea of a Div 4a and 4b would appear to be a back handed attempt to shoehorn Premier Reserve teams into the ACFL.  >:(

And I was just replying to the question, which had 3 question marks suggesting bemusement! So now you have the context.

Any answer to the question asking if there is anything wrong with 4 divisions of 11 teams in 2023?
Does it really have to be something extraordinary and uncomfortable in order to get the 10 team divisions or would a phased return be best?

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Down / Re: Down Club Hurling & Football
« on: February 01, 2022, 08:35:36 PM »
What is the rush to get back to 10 teams per division???
We currently have 43 teams in the county and if Ballykinlar return it will be 44.
Is there anything wrong with have 4 x 11 team divisions with the odd team getting a bye each week?
Forget about taking a break in July and play twice a week if required.

You canít go changing league structures every 5 minutes. The leagues were set to 10 teams a few years ago and the only reason we have this situation is due to Covid. As with everything in the world, completely out of the ordinary and may take something uncomfortable or extraordinary to resolve the issue. Never going to suit everyone.

It was just a question! Keep your hair on!  ::)
Seems like the Down leagues have been chopped and changed plenty over the years and now the idea of a Div 4a and 4b would appear to be a back handed attempt to shoehorn Premier Reserve teams into the ACFL.  >:(

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Down / Re: Down Club Hurling & Football
« on: February 01, 2022, 07:20:33 PM »
What is the rush to get back to 10 teams per division???
We currently have 43 teams in the county and if Ballykinlar return it will be 44.
Is there anything wrong with have 4 x 11 team divisions with the odd team getting a bye each week?
Forget about taking a break in July and play twice a week if required.

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Down / Re: Down Club Hurling & Football
« on: January 14, 2022, 07:03:58 PM »
With Preseason under way, what club teams do you think will take the next step this year?

Would there be many Teams back training? Too early surely?
Stepping up!
Longstone & Bredagh From 2 to 1
Ballymartin & Shamrocks 3 to 2
Drumaness & Dundrum 4 to 3

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Down / Re: Down Club Hurling & Football
« on: January 03, 2022, 01:18:12 PM »
Club Managers for 2022 Please update where missing

ACFL Division 1 (12 teams)
 
CPN Warrenpoint (SFC) - S Mullholland
Clonduff (SFC) - C McBride
Mayobridge (SFC) - S Poacher
Burren (SFC) - J McCorry
Carryduff (SFC) - F Moriarty
Cill Chua (SFC) - M Moran
Ballyholland (SFC) - R Murtagh
Bryansford (SFC) - C Deegan
Rostrevor (IFC) - B Coulter
Loughinisland (SFC) -K Duffin
RGU Downpatrick (SFC) - K Gracey
Castlewellan (SFC) - B Grant
 
ACFL Division 2 (10 teams)
 
Longstone (SFC) -
Glenn John Martins (SFC) - T Bagnall
An Riocht (SFC) - D Mussen
Darragh Cross (IFC) - DJ Kane / E Gormley
Bredagh (SFC) - B Mason
Sabhaill Naomh PŠdraig (SFC) C O'Toole
Annaclone (IFC) - J Haughey
St Johnís Drumnaquoile (IFC) - C Burns
Liatroim (IFC) - F Fitzsummins
Saval (IFC) - D Hughes
 
ACFL Division 3 (12 teams)
 
Newry Shamrocks (IFC) - M Rafferty
Ballymartin (IFC) - C Brannagan
Tullylish (IFC) - D Corbett
Drumgath (IFC) - J Lynch
Attical (IFC) -
Aughlisnafin (IFC) - J Morgan
St John Bosco (IFC) - M McVeigh
Clan na Banna (IFC) - P Feeny
Teconnaught (JFC) - H Greene
Bright (IFC) - F Toner
Dromara (JFC) -
St Pauls (IFC) -
 
ACFL Division 4 (9 teams)
 
Kilclief (JFC) -
Dundrum (JFC) - J Clarke
Ardglass (JFC) -
East Belfast (JFC) -
St Colmanís Drumaness (JFC) -
Glasdrumman (JFC) -
Aghaderg (JFC) -
St Michaels (JFC) -
Newry Mitchels (JFC) -

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Down / Re: Down Club Hurling & Football
« on: December 30, 2021, 02:08:33 PM »
Good Afternoon All.
Anyone hear from a reliable source or know when the Down Football Leagues are scheduled to start in 2022??

Looking at the NFL fixtures they end on 27th March so I would say Leagues would start the next week on 3rd April (Sunday). With a stacked league fixture in top divisions there'll be a need to get games played. Reserve Leagues possibly starting the beginning of March as per pre-covid years.

Of course this is all a theory and up to what restrictions are in place due to COVID.

Thanks MR. That sounds logical.

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Down / Re: Down Club Hurling & Football
« on: December 30, 2021, 01:32:24 PM »
Good Afternoon All.
Anyone hear from a reliable source or know when the Down Football Leagues are scheduled to start in 2022??

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Down / Re: Down Club Hurling & Football
« on: November 28, 2021, 09:16:13 PM »

I had the correct call and my man from del monte is never far away.
How do we look on the club management front. Most teams are set up, has anyone a list of division 3 and 4 management teams.
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Div 3
Attical             - Chris Burden
Aughlisnfin      - Dolen Croskery
Ballymartin     - Ciaran Brannigan
Bosco             - Mickey McVeigh
Bright             - Francie Toner
Clan Na Banna - Paddy Feeney
Dromara         - Martin Walker
Drumgath       - Jackie Lynch
Shamrocks     - Marty Rafferty
St Pauls         - Paddy Hannigan
Teconnaght    - TBC
Tullylish       - Davy Corbett

Div 4
Aghaderg         - TBC
Ardglass          - Paul O'Shea
Drumaness      - TBC
Dundrum         - John Clarke
East Belfast     - TBC
Glasdrumman  - Glen Burden
Kilclief            - Paul Watterson
Mitchels          - TBC
St Michaels      - TBC     

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