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Being a Friday it is the sorrowful mysteries and when talking about Willie that is pretty apt.

Roman Catholic is not the correct term. It is one foisted upon it by others.  The Church does need to be told hard hitting home truths, and must be held accountable for its wrong doing, failings and cover ups to the full extent of the law.  All I'm saying is,  if some one wants to start a thread to have a go at the Church, then have the courage of their convictions and name the thread accordingly, and not play games with language and hide behind silly polls.

Could all posters please use full titles when referring to the Pope and the Queen.  Some posters are very pedantic in using the "Pope of Rome" yet are quite willing to refer to ERII as "the Queen". This can be quite confusing for us non-monarchy and royal sycophant types, as surely there is more than just the one queen (e.g the Queens of Norway, Netherlands, Belgium).   Clarification in future will be helpful.  Also can this thread not be given its proper implied title "Lets bash the Church some more", as that is ultimate goal of its author

In order to be a member of the RBP, one must first be a member of the OO. So its same club different name and another excuse for a day out in summer.

Definitely not, there are significant differences in faith and dogma between the Catholic church and the various Protestant denominations.  What I was trying to point out, was that when a person or group of persons decide to break out from under the of the Church hierarchy then invariably a train of events are set in motion that result in a new religion. The resulting religion that would inevitably evolve from "kicking the Cardinals out of our cathedrals" would mean a new church, which couldn't possibly call itself Catholic.  Thats all.

Orior beat me to, this style of church and religion already existds in Ireland, protestantism in all its forms and guises.

People, people, people, BABY ON BOARD signs are not about adjusting how other drivers, drive behind them, it is a self congratulatory salute on their ability to procreate and a way of letting the rest of the world know.  However what they fail to realise is that they haven't done anything extraordinary or outstanding, even their own parents achieved this feat.  In fact humankind have been doing it for millennia, as well as animals, plants microorganisms, in fact all life on this little planet.  So next time you see such signs, have a chuckle and think of the poor child to have such dunderheads as parents.

I work in a school with a big carpark for parents to drop off their little darlings, all grammar school age. But do they use it , NO, they don't.  They drive right up to reception to let the kids out, blocking the drives to the staff carparks.  Johnny and Mary are teenagers, if they can't walk the 50 yards from the carpark god help them when they are 60yrs old.

I have followed this thread with interest from the start and i am amnnoyed and saddened at a number of the pro Israeli State posts.These posts tend to trot out the now tired defence of defending our country against Hamas attacks.  They also perpetuate the myth that the Palestinians want to eradicate the Israeli people. 

I would like to add my own thoughts on this issue.  The Palestinian people do not want to eradicate the Israeli people, they want to co-exist with the Israeli's in a fair and democratic state, where they are treated with equality.  They want to eradicate the Israeli state and all that it stands for and create a more pluralist and egalitarian state, where all the children of the country will be cherished.

Why do i make these assertions, well in the mid 90's I studied for six months at the university of Patras, Greece.  Palestinian students, were offered free university education by the Greek government, resulting in a large Palestinian student body, as well as a sizeable body of students from across the Arab world.  During may discussions on the Palestinian issue, never once did anybody express a wish or desire to exterminate the Jewish people, they just wanted a better way of life for them and future generations.  Now before people say that as University students they would be more enlightened in their views, remeber these people were getting free education because their situation was so dire, these were the ordinary people of Gaza and the West Bank.  They just wanted to live in peace. 

Another small point, a friend of mine, also out there studying, when saying cheers, would say hamas ( Greek for cheers is yamas) jokingly.  Each time the Palestinians would have a look of shock and horror and openly rebuke him.  They had very little time for this organisation.

Interestingly talking to these people and students from more hardline states such as Iran and  Iraq and students from Jordan, the bulk of there anger was directed at not Israel but two other states, namely the USA and Britain, one for creating the Palestinian problem and the other for prolonging it.