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[and they have a real winners mentality now]

Serious result! They came out flying at the start of the second half and were able to hold that lead til the end in poor conditions. Some quality players coming through in that group, and they have a real winners mentality now, which we've rarely had from underage teams.

McAnespie has now won minor, u21 and senior Ulster titles - that must be a first for a Monaghan player. I don't think any others from that group were on the senior panel last year?

Yep, and that's massive if it can translate into the senior panel.

Great result!

Will Donegal have a go at winning the league? I know the last number of years it has been a awkward distraction to their first round Championship games v Tyrone. But this year they have a bye to the Quarters and the lesser lights of Fermanagh/Antrim await. Last year they had no interest in winning their semi final.

Is there any realistic chance of us beating Dublin?

If we can run them to a point, why not?

[We are almost Brothers in Arms.]

We needed to win this game much more than Donegal did, you'd wonder just how much that fact had effect on Donegal.
Still, seeing that we were coming from 4 straight defeats, any win over Donegal is no mean feat.
We are almost Brothers in Arms.

Then we're the wee brother you never fail to best, no matter what the circumstances!

Whereas you lot curl up in the foetal position at the sight of Tyrone, who we usually beat no matter what (may change this year).

The little love triangle makes no sense at all!

Apart from the 2013 and 2015 Ulster Finals, the 2014 D2 Final, the 2015 league game and today...

We beat Tyrone in the 2014 Championship and 2015 League. But they're definitely our bogey team we're probably yours.

Great to come away with that result. It didn't look promising at the start and the second week in a row that we conceded a goal as a result of the short kickout. Lucky to respond so quickly with a goal of our own as another Donegal point at that stage and it may have been past saving.

Great atmosphere towards the end and a big crowd. Not convinced Blaney is up to these big games though.

Some interesting games in D1 next year with Cavan and Tyrone up.

It was broadcast on RTE first, they must have had a hand in its commissioning.

If i'm not mistaken , RTE commissioned and BBC came on board at a later date.

[so far exactly how they would have been expected to]

There's little there to suggest that Gallagher would prefer another game to another training camp to be honest, for better or worse.

Donegal were playing well until they went on that last training camp.

I think Donegal have come out of the league so far exactly how they would have been expected to, with the exception of the Roscommon game. Dublin away and Kerry away are always nailed-on defeats. Mayo at home was 50/50, and we shaded it. Cork never bother their asses when they come north and its almost always a handy Donegal win. Down have been hammered by almost everyone.

The training camp has littled to do with it. The sequencing and location of the fixtures has a lot to do with it.

So what would be the expectation for this one?

[You somehow seem to be revising an outlook that The War of Independence was a success]

You somehow seem to be revising an outlook that The War of  Independence was a success. It may have got the 26 it's freedom but it created a sectarian statelet which would inevitably lead to another bloody conflict

Yeah revisionism is to be reviled

You paint the Provos campaign as a failure. It certainly hastened a more equal and accommodating society for nationalists to live in today. It seems to have delivered peace to the island, certainly for the time being.

f**king brilliant. You really are a deranged tool but I really, really wish you had your own TV show ("An Idiot at Home") or channel even dedicated to your espousal of your views. You would make a fortune in advertising revenues.

Are you denying that the O6 state has not been in a relative state of peace since the GFA was signed?

I think what you don't like about me is that I'm a skilled debater while you are an empty vessel.

A skilled debater would note that ending a conflict to bring about a state of peace, does not mean that the conflict itself achieved peace. Peace is the absence of conflict.

I didn't say the conflict achieved peace, I said it hastened the process for equal rights which in turn lessened the appetite for conflict, culminating in a peace process.

Yes you did

I did not and you are a liar, the end result of the conflict was a hastened process of equal rights to the nationalist community, thus reducing the civil unrest, thus facilitating the requirements for a peaceful state.

Hastened how exactly?

Equal rights for housing, employment etc. were secured decades before the end of the conflict. What equal rights were achieved in 1998?

Where are you getting that from? It seems like a load of nonsense to me, up until the late 80s, there were nearly 3 times more Catholics unemployed that Protestants. Did this change just happen overnight then?

Do you think that equal rights would have been achieved without the arm campaign in such a short period of time, given the civil rights movement kicked off in the late 60s.

The Housing Executive was established in 1971. Yes, Catholic unemployment remained high, but improved as demographics changed, industries changed, and an educated Catholic workforce came into play. The number of Catholics in employment didn't rise because of the troubles. Unless you can point to some specific events in the late 1980s that brought this change about?

What specific civil rights did the conflict deliver?

The civil rights argument is a fig leaf. It may be the context of the start of the troubles, but it persisted with the aim of a United Ireland. Because this wasn't achieved, there's this notion that it was a 30 year conflict for civil rights.

[You somehow seem to be revising an outlook that The War of Independence was a success]

You somehow seem to be revising an outlook that The War of  Independence was a success. It may have got the 26 it's freedom but it created a sectarian statelet which would inevitably lead to another bloody conflict

Yeah revisionism is to be reviled

You paint the Provos campaign as a failure. It certainly hastened a more equal and accommodating society for nationalists to live in today. It seems to have delivered peace to the island, certainly for the time being.

f**king brilliant. You really are a deranged tool but I really, really wish you had your own TV show ("An Idiot at Home") or channel even dedicated to your espousal of your views. You would make a fortune in advertising revenues.

Are you denying that the O6 state has not been in a relative state of peace since the GFA was signed?

I think what you don't like about me is that I'm a skilled debater while you are an empty vessel.

A skilled debater would note that ending a conflict to bring about a state of peace, does not mean that the conflict itself achieved peace. Peace is the absence of conflict.

I didn't say the conflict achieved peace, I said it hastened the process for equal rights which in turn lessened the appetite for conflict, culminating in a peace process.

Yes you did

I did not and you are a liar, the end result of the conflict was a hastened process of equal rights to the nationalist community, thus reducing the civil unrest, thus facilitating the requirements for a peaceful state.

Hastened how exactly?

Equal rights for housing, employment etc. were secured decades before the end of the conflict. What equal rights were achieved in 1998?

[killer]

At least the Monaghan Republican Front  tried  to invade and liberate Tyrone from the yoke of brit imperialism and their various quasi-military backwoods thug lackeys  but we were betrayed and undone by a local snitch.

And now look at how Tyrone repays us for that blood loss of our children?

It was a Monaghan man who betrayed the Loughgall martyrs.

Was a Monaghan Man lead them too

Martyrs? Really??

A martyr is someone who is killer because of their religious or other beliefs. Which is what happened to those men. So while you may not agree with their beliefs and actions you can't really deny they were martyrs

Killer or killed?

Either way, a martyr is someone who chooses persecution or death rather than renounce their beliefs. You don't become a martyr just by being killed.

Very poor performance. No midfield shows again, and having to work the ball all the way up the field from a short kick-out just won't work against the better teams. And that's before you even mention what happens when the short kick-out goes horribly wrong.

Even a win against Donegal might not be enough. The points dropped against Dublin and Mayo...

Great to see all these book recommendations - a subject i've always wanted to be better informed on, i'll be checking some of them out.

But would you not usually pay more than £1k for them? That would obviously have a big impact on the payback period. Would the PC sum alternative be a better deal for you or the developer?

All this talk about Monaghans great defence. Looking back we haven't really defended 'great' since the 2013 c'ship.(bar one or two games).
Is it complacency ? or what ? Never mind the one scoring forward or weak midfield. Now when we lose possession we cant stop the opponents. 1-20 against a cork team who got their asses handed to them for the past month. This is sh**e........
Kerry coming up next week. Need to get back to what made us in 2013.

I wasn't at today's game, but think our defence would be grand if we could sort out midfield.

The whole idea of defence is to stop opponents. Midfield wont win possession all the time.

No, but if they won it even 40% of the time then defence isn't constantly under pressure. We lost the Mayo game despite some great defensive play (even if there were a few lapses). Very hard to win these games without being at least competitive at midfield. IMO defence is the least of our problems.

All this talk about Monaghans great defence. Looking back we haven't really defended 'great' since the 2013 c'ship.(bar one or two games).
Is it complacency ? or what ? Never mind the one scoring forward or weak midfield. Now when we lose possession we cant stop the opponents. 1-20 against a cork team who got their asses handed to them for the past month. This is sh**e........
Kerry coming up next week. Need to get back to what made us in 2013.

I wasn't at today's game, but think our defence would be grand if we could sort out midfield.