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there are huge swathes of nationalist kids in both Derry and Belfast not in the gaa fold, surely the aim should be get all our own first before licking the holes of any loyalist knackers to play GAA

Fair play to you for setting out how you feel. I get the impression there are others who agree with you but are too embarrassed to admit to it.

By setting out that Catholic kids outside the GAA fold our "own" but Protestants living alongside them are not you are already setting out the organisation as a catholic one. An unhelpful starting position.

To dress up some minor changes you are being asked to make as "licking the holes of some loyalist knackers" probably means you are not going to be at the vanguard of moving this place forward

The GAA can't and won't be forced to make the necessary changes. But if it takes that intransigent stance then it will come at a price

We know that the UK civil service is looking at housing, schooling and public expenditure in NI to try to reduce the long term deficit. In that regard there is a realisation that funding segregated housing, segregated schooling and capital projects that maintain cultural separation is a bad use of public funds (as more funds have to be found to manage the ongoing impacts of the lack of social cohesion).

If you don't reach out to unionism you won't be able to reach out for the cheque. The choice is yours

I never mentioned religions at all, you added that in.

my point is simple we have thousands upon thousands of nationalist kids in urban areas who arent yet active in GAA, Derry city being the biggest misnomer of all . They would be easier brought into the GAA than someone who is ideologically and multi generationally opposed to everything of an irish culture.
Its not sectarian, its merely common sense why should the GAA attempt the impossible for the sake of what maybe 10 kids joining when 1000s are available if Croke Park and HQ together with the respective county boards got their fingers out of their holes and invested in reclaiming the decay in urban nationalist areas

there are huge swathes of nationalist kids in both Derry and Belfast not in the gaa fold, surely the aim should be get all our own first before licking the holes of any loyalist knackers to play GAA

A bit ironic that Syferus' local club is named after a chap whom unionists of the day would have called a "terrorist".
He was shot by the "Security forces" of the day while leading armed men in an attack on a Police Barracks.

was St Brigid a terrorist as well

https://www.rte.ie/sport/gaa/2018/0306/945337-galways-coen-sees-positive-in-second-tier-campaign/

they are but not a scatter of other positions also......and  have up to 6 yeaqrs of D2 under their belt for those who arent new

no but you could end up there thanks to a misplaced paddy o'Rourke kickout in those circumstances as Roscommon did

I don't understand this narrative of div2 teams  or being good enough for div1. Seems now the implication is you'd be better to throw a few games and not get promoted. Really is a daft premise. How do you close the gap on the best if you try to avoid playing them? Also div 1 football is a superb boost for the GAA in your county. Last year we had Dublin and Kerry in breffni which were fantastic for cavan GAA. We got a draw against Kerry, respectable enough show against Dublin and we beat Mayo in castlebar. It wasn't enough to keep us up but to suggest we would have been better not going up at all is ridiculous.

if your team needs to blood a new full back, centre back, 2 midfielders and a couple of forwards, which is the better place to do it, taking a 20 point tanking off Dublin  or in a competitive match in D2.

if you have the panel and mgmt more or less battle hardened then D1 is a no brainer but D1 is not a one size fits all cure

Dublin senior clubs have panels of 30mplus. Most country clubs don't have that comfort levels

No need to tell someone their  opinion is shite young lad.

Learn a bit of respect if trying to debate.......


And I am resolute in my belief that we would have been better served not gaining promotion on that crazy day in 2015, even if in your absolutism world  this might be heresy.....

Discussing league here......

My opinion is none of the teams in D2 are capable of s sustained  spell in D1 yet and all would be bettefvserved in D2 for development.   Galway had 6 years under their belt before going up. Ross went from 4 through to 1, had a sensational season, had a nihhtmarevamdvsrdvprobsbly at their realistic level now....... very hard blood new players in key positions in D1 and this applies to all the current D2 teams Most of whom are rebuilding of searching for key personnel still......

which county really believes they will survive in div 1

Maybe the one that did it two years ago?

I'd suspect Cavan might come back down to earth before they have to make the trip to the Hyde next week. Two losses on the trot would leave the Tipp game in a very precarious spot for them. This isn't the division where teams do it the easy way.

The one which failed miserably in  Div1 in 2017 is it

which county really believes they will survive in div 1

is the lucky 7 in cricklewood still going........... McGoverns in Cricklewood used be a decent house.

is Finbarr Holian still running the show in the Claddagh ring.

god be with the mondays and Ambrose Gordon from the spotted dog having copies of the sunday game all over north london. Christ Mondays were better days on the beer than sundays then

name one other pundit who is as self effusive in his own being as McGuinness. the lug thinks he invented gaelic football....... he really believes his own greatness.

Brolly is right on more issues than he is wrong but he is spectacularly wrong on some of his epistle3s

which other pundit or ex player or journalist has consistently called out u13 development squads for the bullshit that they are and the problems they cause within clubs ( smaller in particular)

True - he calls out a lot of stuff. Unfortunately some of his other outbursts give people the excuse to distract from the real problems he addresses... SKY sell-off, GPA, elitism etc

i agree he has occasional brain farts and it diverts away from his core concerns but that sums up the intelligence of those easily diverted also