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GAA Discussion / Re: Dublin v Tyrone 2018 All Ireland Final
« on: August 15, 2018, 04:05:25 PM »
The first really dominant team I was aware of was Shamrock Rovers in the early 80s. They were relentless. Along with the quality came the boredom. There have been a few other teams with the same features including Kilkenny. The Dubs have a bit of Frankenstein about them because in addition to the dominance is the funding difference that continues to make it possible.

The funding difference is a complete red herring. If it was so important why are the Dublun hurlers not dominating or even competitive? I presume they get the same funding advantage that youíre talking about.

Yea it's not like Cuala are going for three in a row AI Club titles or anything? A Dublin club hadn't even won a Leinster before that.

Wrong,

Crumlin won Leinster back in 79......


But yes Dublin GAA have given Cuala 1 million a year in funding. Each of the last 5 years in efforts  to win the all Ireland................... my hole

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GAA Discussion / Re: Dublin v Tyrone 2018 All Ireland Final
« on: August 15, 2018, 01:59:27 PM »
Youíd expect nearly all the neutrals would back Tyrone but I nearly get the sense that a few mayo and Kildare posters would love to see a big win for Dublin. Itíll back up their point about Dublinís resources being whatís beating other teams etc.

Our county has spent hundreds of years fighting battles against bullies with greater resources than the locals and always fought back including plenty of victories along the way. The county has also fought back from plenty of hardships.

The team will rise to the occasion and drive the dubs back. A few extra pound in the bank, extra gear or 40 man back room team is nothing compared to what Hugh OíNeill had to go up against in victory 420 years ago today against a heavily armed English army. Letís get into the trenches and fight, itís what we do best. Letís make the dubs fight for every ball and if they do manage to win it letís torture the life out of them until they give it back. Letís ignite the spirit of 03 against Kerry. All Ireland finals donít come around too often for most counties, itís time to make the most of. Tyrone abu.

How very dare you.

If Dublin played England I'd shout for England.

Have my Tyrone jersey bought already! Dublin are the antithesis of the GAA, they don't give a shite about the welfare or the state of the game. After Kerry their supporters they have the biggest sense of entitlement, they can't take criticism, take preciousness to a new level and are obtuse around facts such as home advantage and financial doping.

Don't get me wrong a Tyrone victory will not be good in the long term but I will enjoy that victory almost as much as a Kildare one.

It's nothing personal Dubs, in fact one of my best friends is a Dublin fanatic, the bollox, but I would love it, really love it if Tyrone won.

Are you saying Dublin officials , players,  mgmt or supporters don't care about the state of the game ?????? What's your solution, stop winning ????

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GAA Discussion / Re: Football All Stars 2018
« on: August 13, 2018, 11:49:13 PM »
Mickey is boycotting any media who  are represented on the all stars committee unless Petey is guaranteed an all star.
7/2 a huge price

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GAA Discussion / Re: Dublin v Tyrone 2018 All Ireland Final
« on: August 13, 2018, 11:17:42 PM »
Ah the Tyrone lads can at least enjoy ''Up for the Match''. They'll drag in Charlie for to talk about that Red Card he did not walk off the field for. And Brush Shields will talk about how great the Hill was in the seventies!

You will also have the concerted media ambush the week before the game! Former Dublin players will be out in force to blacken a decent Player threat from Tyrone. The Northern Brand of football will be vilified!

In fairness Tyroneís brand of football is already the most vilified in living memory. You can get much blacker than pitch black. Reckon itís a job for Dublin Joe or Gough.

Having seen them first hand this year you must know that it's nonsense that they are a poor brand of football.

You actually think Tyrone have a good brand of football? What? I know you can be cross-eyed when it comes to your own county but this is more than a bit silly. Owning what you are is the first step..


It's a better brand than the shite we have suffered over the last 12 months

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Dublin seem now not to really  Perform for first 20 minutes against docile teams like Rodcommo  or first half against better teams, as they tease out weaknesses. Then the afterburner are turned on in 2nd half.

They know this Tyrone team well and I feel will want to give Harte Tyrone and everyone else a lesson in football. They have been shite in recent finals so will keen to  correct what they would view as underperforming  finals,

No Connolly to rescue them this year and no mention of him at all

Dublin by 6 or 7

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Monaghan got rode both games by ref.......

Be interesting senior final, 2 teams / managers who get  sympathetic reffing

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He gives hope to loads of mullickers anyways to stick at it...

And  we could do with a dog like him in Roscommon....

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Which does more harm for Gaelic football.......

Dublin winning their 4th of 8 in a row or Tyrone winning one this year........


But Tyrone gives hope to a lot of moderate footballers out there... jesus Colm Cavanagh  ....
Surely Colm Cavanagh is the only All Ireland winner amongst them?

Ray Silke  captained a team to win one. Still was a shite footballer....

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GAA Discussion / Re: Football All Stars 2018
« on: August 13, 2018, 12:04:30 AM »
No certs til gibal played,any of those tyrone.lsds get vleaned out  in the first land everyone game counts for nought.
Posting a comment after a few pints?

No just a keyboard with a mind of its own

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Which does more harm for Gaelic football.......

Dublin winning their 4th of 8 in a row or Tyrone winning one this year........


But Tyrone gives hope to a lot of moderate footballers out there... jesus Colm Cavanagh  ....


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Was it McShane who hit that disaster of a shot at the end? Couldn't believe it. Beggan subsequently bettered him though thankfully.
Tyrone did it throughout the game. Needlessly shooting from difficult positions instead of just holding on to it til they found someone in a gimme position.
This is the key point of soul destroying failures for Tyrone. 

It always amazes me because Tyrone have been doing this for 5+ years (see Mayo 2016 worst 34 chances 12 scores) They rarely score the expected total for a top class team and their conversion rate (the other way of judging shot selection/shooting success) is never up to usual top 4 standards (only against lesser teams like Roscommon and Armagh latterly). Tyrone do 'create' more 'chances' but less chances and a much better conversion rate giving 20+points is the target and better way. The misses shots, short, wide and frees missed are soul destroying and today was the same
With all this coaching etc etc How come Tyrone never take the extra 2-3 passes to get the right shot as Dublin do?

It must be an inbuilt lack of confidence/panic somewhere? Is Stephen O'Neill doing anything at all with Tyrone?
The defense is grand so Tyrone now practice your zen, coolness, self belief and patience up front and anything is possible as when 2 points down in 2008!
Kicking these points was Stephen OíNeillís game. Youíd imagine heíd be encouraging them to shoot on sight as he did.

Wasn't it as s pioneer pin wearing yes man he was brought in.

Cos if it had to do with football he nor anyone else won't be listened to

Youíre friggin right. A relatively recent ďAll Ireland, All Star, Player of the YearĒ winning retired forward has no business coaching forwards in todayís game.

Get Muggsy then.....

Is  Stephen  not cut om the same cloth as Harte and won't challenge  MH.

And I am not questioning his playing ability st all but meind me who he has managed.

Any forwards coach will struggle under MH. But ye are in the final and nobody else can now beat Dublin so well done


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GAA Discussion / Re: Football All Stars 2018
« on: August 12, 2018, 11:39:14 PM »
No certs til final played,any of those tyrone.lads get cleaned out  in the selectors eyes earlier game counts for nought.


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Was it McShane who hit that disaster of a shot at the end? Couldn't believe it. Beggan subsequently bettered him though thankfully.
Tyrone did it throughout the game. Needlessly shooting from difficult positions instead of just holding on to it til they found someone in a gimme position.
This is the key point of soul destroying failures for Tyrone. 

It always amazes me because Tyrone have been doing this for 5+ years (see Mayo 2016 worst 34 chances 12 scores) They rarely score the expected total for a top class team and their conversion rate (the other way of judging shot selection/shooting success) is never up to usual top 4 standards (only against lesser teams like Roscommon and Armagh latterly). Tyrone do 'create' more 'chances' but less chances and a much better conversion rate giving 20+points is the target and better way. The misses shots, short, wide and frees missed are soul destroying and today was the same
With all this coaching etc etc How come Tyrone never take the extra 2-3 passes to get the right shot as Dublin do?

It must be an inbuilt lack of confidence/panic somewhere? Is Stephen O'Neill doing anything at all with Tyrone?
The defense is grand so Tyrone now practice your zen, coolness, self belief and patience up front and anything is possible as when 2 points down in 2008!
Kicking these points was Stephen OíNeillís game. Youíd imagine heíd be encouraging them to shoot on sight as he did.

Wasn't it as s pioneer pin wearing yes man he was brought in.

Cos if it had to do with football he nor anyone else won't be listened to

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A good while since we saw only 3 mins additional  time which O'Rourke  seems  rightly pissed off with

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I would love to see Monaghan win but the downsidecwoukd be Dick effin Clerkin being unsufferable for the next 40 years

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