We need to talk about Diarmuid

[Taylor]

Always liked dublin and they have played great fball over the past 5-6yrs but they became a dislikeable team and you could laid alot of that at gavin!  Oh poor dermot; seriously how about some player and team discpline! The blame for connolly attitude lies with the player himself and the manager! The sunday game only pointing out a issue which we all can see, now its a attitude of get the player off where he was right or wrong!

Off course DC was in the wrong and he only has himself to blame but TSG didn't hammer the knee incident from Saturday night, none of them called for bans and now the CcCCCcC don't see fit to do anything about tackles which are unbelievably dangerous.

Is it coincidence? Nothing on TSG, no action taken?

[tonto1888]

Not a big fan of Conlon but he's spot on here https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/23e367be-5aa8-11e7-ad31-8e588690cd15

If you need to use the likes of Conlon to plead your case then God help us.

I prefer Paul Grimley's take on the matter.

http://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/the-sunday-game-panel-cant-be-involved-in-character-assassination-paul-grimley-backs-jim-gavin-stand-35868951.html

Grimley is 100% correct here. If anyone thinks that a few Sunday Game pundits do not set the narrative, then watch the reporting of Down at the weekend. Instead of reporting knee dropping and aggressive tactics with slo-mo's of the controversial incidents, we got affectionate descriptions of anarchy and chaos and statements that that's what you've got to do to win.

I've no problem with them not highlighting Downs misdemeanours but it's the double standards and hypocrisy that exists depending on the colour of jersey worn. If it had been another county with a different manager the narrative would have been completely different. Plenty of people won't admit it but there is an irrational hatred of Dublin and their recent success by many media pundits and print journalists. They all each have their set agenda's but they have the luxury of getting paid to comment on these sideshows.

I fully agree. To take it a bit further had the offender been wearing a white shirt with a red hand badge they would have been all over it also

[The Hill is Blue]

Always liked dublin and they have played great fball over the past 5-6yrs but they became a dislikeable team and you could laid alot of that at gavin!  Oh poor dermot; seriously how about some player and team discpline! The blame for connolly attitude lies with the player himself and the manager! The sunday game only pointing out a issue which we all can see, now its a attitude of get the player off where he was right or wrong!

Did you listen to Gavin's statement? He made it clear that this was NOT a matter of "getting the player off" but rather allowing due process to prevail. The whole concept of due process seems to be lost on the anti-Dublin brigade.

[Syferus]

Always liked dublin and they have played great fball over the past 5-6yrs but they became a dislikeable team and you could laid alot of that at gavin!  Oh poor dermot; seriously how about some player and team discpline! The blame for connolly attitude lies with the player himself and the manager! The sunday game only pointing out a issue which we all can see, now its a attitude of get the player off where he was right or wrong!

Did you listen to Gavin's statement? He made it clear that this was NOT a matter of "getting the player off" but rather allowing due process to prevail. The whole concept of due process seems to be lost on the anti-Dublin brigade.

What part of Connolly pushing a referee and triggering a mandatory 12 week ban needs any due process? You'd swear we were talking about a murder case with only circumstantial evidence.

[The Hill is Blue]

Always liked dublin and they have played great fball over the past 5-6yrs but they became a dislikeable team and you could laid alot of that at gavin!  Oh poor dermot; seriously how about some player and team discpline! The blame for connolly attitude lies with the player himself and the manager! The sunday game only pointing out a issue which we all can see, now its a attitude of get the player off where he was right or wrong!

Did you listen to Gavin's statement? He made it clear that this was NOT a matter of "getting the player off" but rather allowing due process to prevail. The whole concept of due process seems to be lost on the anti-Dublin brigade.

What part of Connolly pushing a referee and triggering a mandatory 12 week ban needs any due process? You'd swear we were talking about a murder case with only circumstantial evidence.

If all this was so obvious to the "impartial" pundits on the Sunday Game why did the referee and linesman take absolutely no action during the game?

[Ball Hopper]

Always liked dublin and they have played great fball over the past 5-6yrs but they became a dislikeable team and you could laid alot of that at gavin!  Oh poor dermot; seriously how about some player and team discpline! The blame for connolly attitude lies with the player himself and the manager! The sunday game only pointing out a issue which we all can see, now its a attitude of get the player off where he was right or wrong!

Did you listen to Gavin's statement? He made it clear that this was NOT a matter of "getting the player off" but rather allowing due process to prevail. The whole concept of due process seems to be lost on the anti-Dublin brigade.

The incident where a player kicked the ball at an umpire, Louth's Ryan Burns, was not put under great scrutiny by The Sunday Game panel or anyone else.

Result?  12 week ban, just as the rule says.

Do the crime, do the time.  Read the refs report is what CCCC does, and that is plenty. 

On Connolly, Ref felt it worthy of inclusion in his report, which does not follow as he took no action at the time.  Indeed, both the ref and the linesman in question should have been dropped for a round or two due to such under-performance.

If Gavin can use this to rally or motivate his team in some way, good luck to him.  But I doubt the players need such motivation. 

[BennyCake]

Always liked dublin and they have played great fball over the past 5-6yrs but they became a dislikeable team and you could laid alot of that at gavin!  Oh poor dermot; seriously how about some player and team discpline! The blame for connolly attitude lies with the player himself and the manager! The sunday game only pointing out a issue which we all can see, now its a attitude of get the player off where he was right or wrong!

Did you listen to Gavin's statement? He made it clear that this was NOT a matter of "getting the player off" but rather allowing due process to prevail. The whole concept of due process seems to be lost on the anti-Dublin brigade.

The incident where a player kicked the ball at an umpire, Louth's Ryan Burns, was not put under great scrutiny by The Sunday Game panel or anyone else.

Result?  12 week ban, just as the rule says.

Do the crime, do the time.  Read the refs report is what CCCC does, and that is plenty. 

On Connolly, Ref felt it worthy of inclusion in his report, which does not follow as he took no action at the time.  Indeed, both the ref and the linesman in question should have been dropped for a round or two due to such under-performance.

If Gavin can use this to rally or motivate his team in some way, good luck to him.  But I doubt the players need such motivation.

Sure they already know they're hated by 31 other counties.

[omagh_gael]

https://www.rte.ie/sport/gaa/2017/0627/885998-burns-banned-for-12-weeks-for-kicking-ball-at-umpire/

Looks like big Dermo isn't the only player being called out for interfering with an official. Gavin referred to other incidents being glossed over in his lament, I wonder was Burns the incident he was talking about?

[Main Street]

Always liked dublin and they have played great fball over the past 5-6yrs but they became a dislikeable team and you could laid alot of that at gavin!  Oh poor dermot; seriously how about some player and team discpline! The blame for connolly attitude lies with the player himself and the manager! The sunday game only pointing out a issue which we all can see, now its a attitude of get the player off where he was right or wrong!

Did you listen to Gavin's statement? He made it clear that this was NOT a matter of "getting the player off" but rather allowing due process to prevail. The whole concept of due process seems to be lost on the anti-Dublin brigade.

The incident where a player kicked the ball at an umpire, Louth's Ryan Burns, was not put under great scrutiny by The Sunday Game panel or anyone else.

Result?  12 week ban, just as the rule says.

Do the crime, do the time.  Read the refs report is what CCCC does, and that is plenty. 

Please don't interrupt this discussion with concrete evidence which directly conflicts with hysteria about  TSG pundits  and Dub paranoia 

[Syferus]

Always liked dublin and they have played great fball over the past 5-6yrs but they became a dislikeable team and you could laid alot of that at gavin!  Oh poor dermot; seriously how about some player and team discpline! The blame for connolly attitude lies with the player himself and the manager! The sunday game only pointing out a issue which we all can see, now its a attitude of get the player off where he was right or wrong!

Did you listen to Gavin's statement? He made it clear that this was NOT a matter of "getting the player off" but rather allowing due process to prevail. The whole concept of due process seems to be lost on the anti-Dublin brigade.

What part of Connolly pushing a referee and triggering a mandatory 12 week ban needs any due process? You'd swear we were talking about a murder case with only circumstantial evidence.

If all this was so obvious to the "impartial" pundits on the Sunday Game why did the referee and linesman take absolutely no action during the game?

Because they're shite at their jobs. The rule was broke. End of.

[From the Bunker]

https://www.rte.ie/sport/gaa/2017/0627/885998-burns-banned-for-12-weeks-for-kicking-ball-at-umpire/

Looks like big Dermo isn't the only player being called out for interfering with an official. Gavin referred to other incidents being glossed over in his lament, I wonder was Burns the incident he was talking about?

Imagine getting 12 weeks and he never laid a hand on the official.

[Captain Scarlet]

So far in 2017 am I right in saying Geezer, Comerford, Connolly and now Burns all deemed guilty under same rule and all have received the same ban?

[highorlow]

The "character" assassination aspect is missing the point.

Media these days is a heavy dire mix of "personalities" jumping to the loudest drum.

Patteen pissed the Dubs off and that's the bottom line here.

It makes for great drama for the rest of us.

Hopefully we have a "non-dive" , "no knee in the balls" win at the weekend so as not to distract from this nonsense!

Long may the row between Papa Smirk Jim and Pet the Teach continue.

[tonto1888]

Always liked dublin and they have played great fball over the past 5-6yrs but they became a dislikeable team and you could laid alot of that at gavin!  Oh poor dermot; seriously how about some player and team discpline! The blame for connolly attitude lies with the player himself and the manager! The sunday game only pointing out a issue which we all can see, now its a attitude of get the player off where he was right or wrong!

Did you listen to Gavin's statement? He made it clear that this was NOT a matter of "getting the player off" but rather allowing due process to prevail. The whole concept of due process seems to be lost on the anti-Dublin brigade.

What part of Connolly pushing a referee and triggering a mandatory 12 week ban needs any due process? You'd swear we were talking about a murder case with only circumstantial evidence.

If all this was so obvious to the "impartial" pundits on the Sunday Game why did the referee and linesman take absolutely no action during the game?

Because they're shite at their jobs. The rule was broke. End of.

According to the wording of the rule any player or team official who puts their hand on an official breaks the rule. Yet plenty of players do it with no action
Edit: Connolly deserved his ban and I'm. It saying putting your hand on the refs shoulder while he is chatting to you is wrong. It's the wording of the rule I think needs to be looked at

[manfromdelmonte]

the suspension for kicking the football is absolutely ridiculous