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[Some fairly cynical oul' tools around these parts.]

Some fairly cynical oul' tools around these parts.

Sour pusses on yer faces over the smallest things.

Ballagh is Mayo territory for Gaa.

Now show us your puss.

That's a monumentual issue. If you're comparing the 'Mayo' Ballagh people to Padjo they won't be long abandoning the house of pain.

Any forum that shuts down for the night at 10PM and yet doesn't attempt to moderate WUMs isn't worth the binary it's made of.

[the bull thick Ballimtubber buck Horan]

Dillon has never turned up for final , he's aswell hit the road, it is time people  stopped making excuses for lads who can't hack the big day. Time to bring in a couple of fresh faces but somehow I think the bull thick Ballimtubber buck Horan  will persist with the same nine or so forwards he's always stuck with.

You're not a Horan fan then Lawrence? How well you didn't warn us about him before now. We could have been braced for the shock.

Any truth in the rumour Horan is moving on??

We were looking for a third selector last season, there may be an opening for him. Don't know about his record though. Should we take the risk?

[Winning repeatedly cheapens the magic of each individual title no matter the county or club.]

Ok, I will. Who should I tell? Osin? Jamser Clarke? BC1?

Winning repeatedly cheapens the magic of each individual title no matter the county or club. At that point it becomes about legacy as much as the singular moment of winning.

That's bullshit.

So, do Kerry people cherish the memories of their 2004 All-Ireland title in the same way that Armagh people cherish the memories of 2002?

I am not from Kerry but I am sure they cherished it as much.  This bullshit that constant winning cheapens the magic is usually thrown about by those who don't win too often.

It's thrown up so often because it's blindingly obvious.

Catch yourself on, it's bullshit.

Thanks for the scientific and detailed explanation why everyone else is wrong and you're right. You've won me over.

[Winning repeatedly cheapens the magic of each individual title no matter the county or club.]

Ok, I will. Who should I tell? Osin? Jamser Clarke? BC1?

Winning repeatedly cheapens the magic of each individual title no matter the county or club. At that point it becomes about legacy as much as the singular moment of winning.

That's bullshit.

So, do Kerry people cherish the memories of their 2004 All-Ireland title in the same way that Armagh people cherish the memories of 2002?

I am not from Kerry but I am sure they cherished it as much.  This bullshit that constant winning cheapens the magic is usually thrown about by those who don't win too often.

It's thrown up so often because it's blindingly obvious.

Found three Rosie's collapsed in the living room this morning. Haven't a clue who they are.

We're hell of a soap opera

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We believe that Kildare Co Chairman John McMahon had a meeting with former Kerry manager Jack O'Connor this week to discuss taking SF job.

A safe, easy to deal with choice with no ego or chance of bullying clubs. Christ lads, out of the frying pan, into Dante's Inferno.

[Those who have been spolied with success seldom appreciate it as much as those who have never tasted it / waited a long time for it.]

I know it may be therapeutic for Mayo folk (and others) to grieve in public but I think you'd all be better off now just getting on with life.

THIB living in this hellhole of a country where over 60% of even the employed are packing the bags and fecking off out of here away from either the depressing shit on the radio and the elitist shit on the TV  and having Vincent bloody Browne and Missus Bloody Brown to put up with and listening to those rank idiots in the Dail who never worked a proper day in their lives and who don't have the balls to lock up the w**ker bankers who partly caused the mess and I don't have to go on about the church and their carry-on.... a large part of our lives becomes and is the GAA and for Mayo folk it's Mayo GAA. The GAA is the only spiritual and dignified entity left in this godforsaken place. So getting on with life for Mayo is to get on with the football again.


Mighty place to be if your a Dub though, i suppose.

It might not feel like it to a Mayo person but there has to be something, as you say, almost spiritual about following a team like that. It's something bigger than just following a team, and as a Dublin supporter, I almost envy Mayo supporters.

We have all the advantages. Population, money, we play all our championship matches  and now, it seems, most of our league matches too, at home. It's a pleasure to watch this Dublin team, but given those advantages and now that we've won two All-Irelands and will probably come back for a good few more, I find myself becoming much less partisan. The thrill of winning has gone. There is no desperation to win. We should be winning.

When Dublin won in 2011, it was great. We were underdogs, we hadn't won it for 16 years, we hadn't been in a final for 16 years, and they way we won it coming from behind and winning with almost the last kick was thrilling. Every one of those 16 years was worth it for that moment.

Now it just isn't the same, and it probably never again will be. Dublin have had dark days, but they were nothing compared to what it must be like for a county that hasn't won for 62 years and has lost seven finals.  We may have been underdogs in 2011, but we will never be real underdogs. The feelings of disappointment must be magnified by ten when Mayo lose compared to what Dublin fans feel, the feeling of winning will be magnified by a similar amount should they win it.

I find myself being reminded of Kilkenny people, who used to go on about the disappointment they felt in 1999 as if it was the most devastating thing that had happened to any county in history. Sorry lads, but you haven't a clue. You will never know disappointment or joy like Mayo.

I read in some paper that the other day that the Boston Red Sox failing to win a World Series for 86 years almost defined who Bostonians were as a people. There's a certain similarity alright, but they were professional players, most of whom weren't even from Boston. They might have been playing for the Yankees the next year.  The Mayo team is the Mayo people, and everybody in Mayo is a part of your team in some small way.

Mayo's continuing quest to win Sam is a heartbreaking yet beautiful  odyessy. We in Dublin will never know anything like it. In a strange way it's great for football in Mayo. Every year without Sam reinforces that hunger and reinforces the obsession. Mayo are always there or thereabouts at underage level, and few counties have reached more senior finals over the last 25 years. As long as the odyessy keeps going football in Mayo will never decline, it will only get stronger - it's as true a football county as there is. When Mayo finally win the All-Ireland, yes, you will regret that certain players didn't win All-Ireland medals, but every Mayo person will look back at every year and every defeat and realise that it was worth the journey.  Until then, you have no choice but to keep enduring,  keep working and keep hoping.

Great post.

Those who have been spolied with success seldom appreciate it as much as those who have never tasted it / waited a long time for it.

My own club (Loughgiel Shamrocks) lost six county finals in a row from 2003-2008.  This Sunday they are aiming to win their 4th County title on the trot and they also won the All Ireland Club title in 2012.  The defeats suffered in those County finals shaped our current team and brought them together.  It will be a great story if Mayo can come back next year and lift Sam.  Their fans will enjoy it all the more if they do.

Try telling Crossmaglen that.

Ok, I will. Who should I tell? Osin? Jamser Clarke? BC1?

Winning repeatedly cheapens the magic of each individual title no matter the county or club. At that point it becomes about legacy as much as the singular moment of winning.

[O Malley]

Hardly a reserve. I think most have played some championship football. I expect that team would give the AI starting 15 a good run.

How many senior championship appearances would the players in bold have?

Clarkie/O Malley

Michael Walsh Shane McHale Kevin Keane

Brendan Harrison Danny Geraghty James Burke

        Barry Moran Jason Gibbons

Richie Feeney Darren Coen Conor O Shea

Evan Regan Jason Doherty Michael Conroy

Can't answer your direct question on the number of appearances, but of the 10 players you highlighted, 5 have played senior championship this year (Walsh-FBD, Harrison-FBD&U21, Geraghty, O'Shea-FBD&U21, Regan-NFL&U21 didn't feature).

From moy's statement 'most' have played some championship football', by my reckoning 12 of those 16 players have - incredibly that team have 20 Senior AIF appearances between them(7 of them featured in the league final last year).

Still wouldn't beat its way out of an Arthur's Day sick bag, lads.

Ffs, Sligo? They have a habit of one good year and a lot of mulch in-between. A bit like us but without silverware. If you're going to mention any Sligo side it'd be the Mickey Keirns-led team of the 70's.

The prince of corner-backs, Harry Keegan? Pat Lindsay? Dermot Earley? Tony Mac? Mickey Finneran was as talented as the lot of them but a fondness of the drink curtailed his career. This discussion was over before it started

At least Dublin played football for 60 minutes. Y'see, that tends to soften the blow when a team commits a cynical foul or two. Mickey, make some notes.

[Kerry in the early,mid 00s]

Kerry in the early,mid 00s

Errr that Kerry team won AIs in 04,06,07 and 09.
Thread is best team NOT to win AI.

Read that, also and thought to myself this poster is brainless

A team that eventually wins one doesn't count. Cherry-picking periods of ultimately successful teams warps the spirit of the thread if not the rules of it.

Any crack from David Brady?? he was blowing his load regularly on the build up to this game

You need to get over this obsession - you sound like you might blow your load thinking about DB regularly yourself.

Aye squire, it's becoming unhealthy....we don't even pay him as much attention as you do....and I'm from Ballina!

DB said he reads the message boards once. Don't be going coy on us, DB.

Taking into account the Rhu bias in these parts, the poll shows a huge lead for Ros.

Nah. The Mayo vote will be split between our 'glorious failures'. That was some Ros. team but 1 final appearance was a poor return for a team with the quality they had. They pissed on Conacht teams but calved in Croke Park as badly as any Mayo team has done since.

At least we lost to good teams. Who ever heard the like of Meath again? Do they even still play football? Losing to Cork in football? Seriously? Kerry, in '90s? A Dublin team with no backs or midfield?

If you're going to lose, lad, make it happen to the greatest team of all time.

Taking into account the Rhu bias in these parts, the poll shows a huge lead for Ros.