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« Reply #50880 on: January 26, 2023, 01:32:40 PM »
More going on with Sancho than meets the eye. Looking to be another stupid purchase by Woodward and Ole.
Martial never developed into the footballer he should have. They can't even find a club to take him. More great work from Woodward and Ole.

Utd need 4 or 5 more first team starters minimum before they can even think about an assault on the Premiership. If they get Top 4 with that Squad it will be some achievement.
I’d say not too many were complaining about Sancho at the time. Obviously something going on but I think he will come good. Van Gaal signed Martial so not sure how you can blame Ole on that one. He’s one of those flaky lads that is always “injured” Should be on a pay as you play contract at this stage or out the door which is a pity because he looked good earlier in the year.

The Sancho signing was stupid. At the time Utd had Rashford, Fernandes, Martial, Greenwod, Cavani, Mata and Pogba (Kind of) as Forward Players and they then signed Ronaldo on top of that. They needed a CDM and a Centre Half badly.
The Martial complaint was that they extended his contract when he clearly needed to be playing for Bordeaux or Hoffenheim or someone shit.
Would love to have a committed Ronaldo and Greenwood available at the minute!

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« Reply #50881 on: January 26, 2023, 01:37:03 PM »
More going on with Sancho than meets the eye. Looking to be another stupid purchase by Woodward and Ole.
Martial never developed into the footballer he should have. They can't even find a club to take him. More great work from Woodward and Ole.

Utd need 4 or 5 more first team starters minimum before they can even think about an assault on the Premiership. If they get Top 4 with that Squad it will be some achievement.
I’d say not too many were complaining about Sancho at the time. Obviously something going on but I think he will come good. Van Gaal signed Martial so not sure how you can blame Ole on that one. He’s one of those flaky lads that is always “injured” Should be on a pay as you play contract at this stage or out the door which is a pity because he looked good earlier in the year.

The Sancho signing was stupid. At the time Utd had Rashford, Fernandes, Martial, Greenwod, Cavani, Mata and Pogba (Kind of) as Forward Players and they then signed Ronaldo on top of that. They needed a CDM and a Centre Half badly.
The Martial complaint was that they extended his contract when he clearly needed to be playing for Bordeaux or Hoffenheim or someone shit.
Would love to have a committed Ronaldo and Greenwood available at the minute!

Well Greenwood will be committed soon enough, along with your mate ;)
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought. Ea

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« Reply #50882 on: January 26, 2023, 01:46:02 PM »
More going on with Sancho than meets the eye. Looking to be another stupid purchase by Woodward and Ole.
Martial never developed into the footballer he should have. They can't even find a club to take him. More great work from Woodward and Ole.

Utd need 4 or 5 more first team starters minimum before they can even think about an assault on the Premiership. If they get Top 4 with that Squad it will be some achievement.
I’d say not too many were complaining about Sancho at the time. Obviously something going on but I think he will come good. Van Gaal signed Martial so not sure how you can blame Ole on that one. He’s one of those flaky lads that is always “injured” Should be on a pay as you play contract at this stage or out the door which is a pity because he looked good earlier in the year.

The Sancho signing was stupid. At the time Utd had Rashford, Fernandes, Martial, Greenwod, Cavani, Mata and Pogba (Kind of) as Forward Players and they then signed Ronaldo on top of that. They needed a CDM and a Centre Half badly.
The Martial complaint was that they extended his contract when he clearly needed to be playing for Bordeaux or Hoffenheim or someone shit.
Would love to have a committed Ronaldo and Greenwood available at the minute!

Well Greenwood will be committed soon enough, along with your mate ;)
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« Reply #50883 on: January 26, 2023, 03:50:08 PM »
More going on with Sancho than meets the eye. Looking to be another stupid purchase by Woodward and Ole.
Martial never developed into the footballer he should have. They can't even find a club to take him. More great work from Woodward and Ole.

Utd need 4 or 5 more first team starters minimum before they can even think about an assault on the Premiership. If they get Top 4 with that Squad it will be some achievement.
Bit of a stretch. They have the highest wage bill in the league, double that of the leaders. They're currently joint 3rd, 3 points ahead of 5th with a game in hand. After a rocky start and plenty of unwanted drama their manager has got them looking like a team again and 80 points should be their target.
Liverpool are a spec in their rear view mirror and Chelsea are the biggest basket case in the league. Who is going to pip them for 4th? Spurs?
I'd be shocked if they don't finish top 4. It'd be as big a bottle job as there ever has been in PL.

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« Reply #50884 on: January 26, 2023, 04:23:42 PM »
More going on with Sancho than meets the eye. Looking to be another stupid purchase by Woodward and Ole.
Martial never developed into the footballer he should have. They can't even find a club to take him. More great work from Woodward and Ole.

Utd need 4 or 5 more first team starters minimum before they can even think about an assault on the Premiership. If they get Top 4 with that Squad it will be some achievement.
Bit of a stretch. They have the highest wage bill in the league, double that of the leaders. They're currently joint 3rd, 3 points ahead of 5th with a game in hand. After a rocky start and plenty of unwanted drama their manager has got them looking like a team again and 80 points should be their target.
Liverpool are a spec in their rear view mirror and Chelsea are the biggest basket case in the league. Who is going to pip them for 4th? Spurs?
I'd be shocked if they don't finish top 4. It'd be as big a bottle job as there ever has been in PL.
Wage bill is due to incompetence of Ed Woodward and Matt Judge. Same goes for majority of transfer fees.

Wouldn't be shocked and Leicester in recent seasons twice didn't finish 4th when they looked certain to do so. As it is only 3 points between 5th and 4th at the moment and have to play Tottenham away plus trips away to Liverpool, Newcastle . United are the only team involved in 4 competitions and the toll of that is already showing signs as they were out on their feet in the last 20 minutes against Arsenal. A few injuries and would be left to rely on rookies or players not up to it. Would be a good first season for Erik ten Hag if Man United finish top 4, while a trophy won would be a bonus.

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« Reply #50885 on: January 26, 2023, 05:27:54 PM »
More going on with Sancho than meets the eye. Looking to be another stupid purchase by Woodward and Ole.
Martial never developed into the footballer he should have. They can't even find a club to take him. More great work from Woodward and Ole.

Utd need 4 or 5 more first team starters minimum before they can even think about an assault on the Premiership. If they get Top 4 with that Squad it will be some achievement.
Bit of a stretch. They have the highest wage bill in the league, double that of the leaders. They're currently joint 3rd, 3 points ahead of 5th with a game in hand. After a rocky start and plenty of unwanted drama their manager has got them looking like a team again and 80 points should be their target.
Liverpool are a spec in their rear view mirror and Chelsea are the biggest basket case in the league. Who is going to pip them for 4th? Spurs?
I'd be shocked if they don't finish top 4. It'd be as big a bottle job as there ever has been in PL.
Wage bill is due to incompetence of Ed Woodward and Matt Judge. Same goes for majority of transfer fees.

Wouldn't be shocked and Leicester in recent seasons twice didn't finish 4th when they looked certain to do so. As it is only 3 points between 5th and 4th at the moment and have to play Tottenham away plus trips away to Liverpool, Newcastle . United are the only team involved in 4 competitions and the toll of that is already showing signs as they were out on their feet in the last 20 minutes against Arsenal. A few injuries and would be left to rely on rookies or players not up to it. Would be a good first season for Erik ten Hag if Man United finish top 4, while a trophy won would be a bonus.
Don't remember too many complaining when all these "flops" were signed.

Wage bill is also a reflection of talent and size of squad at your disposal. Of course they have to carry flops, everyone does, Arsenal are still carrying Pepe wages, but Utd have the biggest wage bill in the league and are getting a tune out of plenty in the squad. They have a good shape to them if Casemiro stays fit. Leicester bottled it, lets call a spade a spade, which is what Utd have to do not to finish top 4. There's literally no one else in the race bar Spurs who are playing catch up and as flaky as they come.

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« Reply #50886 on: January 26, 2023, 06:29:36 PM »

Don't remember too many complaining when all these "flops" were signed.

Wage bill is also a reflection of talent and size of squad at your disposal. Of course they have to carry flops, everyone does, Arsenal are still carrying Pepe wages, but Utd have the biggest wage bill in the league and are getting a tune out of plenty in the squad. They have a good shape to them if Casemiro stays fit. Leicester bottled it, lets call a spade a spade, which is what Utd have to do not to finish top 4. There's literally no one else in the race bar Spurs who are playing catch up and as flaky as they come.

Plenty complained, sure the priority signing for years was CDM and one wasn't signed until late August this year. Season after season of poor recruitment was done. Overpaying for players in transfer fees and wages the business men running the club was clueless.

More than just keeping Casemiro fit. Who's going to be doing the scoring/fill the void if Rashford is out? will need to keep centre back pairing of Varane,Martinez fit as well as their replacements are the flaky Lindelof,Maguire.

One of the main reasons why Leicester as you call it "bottled it" was because of injuries and with upcoming hectic schedule ahead United will be lucky to avoid injuries to key players.


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« Reply #50887 on: January 26, 2023, 06:49:58 PM »

Don't remember too many complaining when all these "flops" were signed.

Wage bill is also a reflection of talent and size of squad at your disposal. Of course they have to carry flops, everyone does, Arsenal are still carrying Pepe wages, but Utd have the biggest wage bill in the league and are getting a tune out of plenty in the squad. They have a good shape to them if Casemiro stays fit. Leicester bottled it, lets call a spade a spade, which is what Utd have to do not to finish top 4. There's literally no one else in the race bar Spurs who are playing catch up and as flaky as they come.

Plenty complained, sure the priority signing for years was CDM and one wasn't signed until late August this year. Season after season of poor recruitment was done. Overpaying for players in transfer fees and wages the business men running the club was clueless.

More than just keeping Casemiro fit. Who's going to doing the scoring/fill the void if Rashford is out? will need to keep centre back pairing of Varane,Martinez fit as well as their replacements are the flaky Lindelof,Maguire.

One of the main reasons why Leicester as you call it "bottled it" was because of injuries and with upcoming hectic schedule ahead United will be lucky to avoid injuries to key players.
I still can't see Utd not finishing 4th. Think those Leicester seasons, mid 60's points wise got you in. 72 points should be more than enough this year but realistically Spurs will finish in the 66-70 point bracket. Utd will have to go into relegation mode for quarter of the season to be caught.

Regarding signings and incompetent board, biggest mistakes they made was managerial appointments. Sure they have too many players over 150K salary, but not that many really are out and out flops. Problem is there's not enough lads around the 100k mark or less that are good solid regulars. And that's partly due to bandwagoners constantly looking for glamour signings, constant shite talk from ex Man Utd pundits on the state of the board and need for clear-outs and the absolute refusal to apportion any blame or criticism on their old buddies who get the hot seat.
 I just think they need to calm down. Manager looks like he knows what he's doing, they have a decent squad, plenty money behind them, few more little tweaks and they won't be far off.

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« Reply #50888 on: January 26, 2023, 10:19:43 PM »

Don't remember too many complaining when all these "flops" were signed.

Wage bill is also a reflection of talent and size of squad at your disposal. Of course they have to carry flops, everyone does, Arsenal are still carrying Pepe wages, but Utd have the biggest wage bill in the league and are getting a tune out of plenty in the squad. They have a good shape to them if Casemiro stays fit. Leicester bottled it, lets call a spade a spade, which is what Utd have to do not to finish top 4. There's literally no one else in the race bar Spurs who are playing catch up and as flaky as they come.

Plenty complained, sure the priority signing for years was CDM and one wasn't signed until late August this year. Season after season of poor recruitment was done. Overpaying for players in transfer fees and wages the business men running the club was clueless.

More than just keeping Casemiro fit. Who's going to doing the scoring/fill the void if Rashford is out? will need to keep centre back pairing of Varane,Martinez fit as well as their replacements are the flaky Lindelof,Maguire.

One of the main reasons why Leicester as you call it "bottled it" was because of injuries and with upcoming hectic schedule ahead United will be lucky to avoid injuries to key players.
I still can't see Utd not finishing 4th. Think those Leicester seasons, mid 60's points wise got you in. 72 points should be more than enough this year but realistically Spurs will finish in the 66-70 point bracket. Utd will have to go into relegation mode for quarter of the season to be caught.

Regarding signings and incompetent board, biggest mistakes they made was managerial appointments. Sure they have too many players over 150K salary, but not that many really are out and out flops. Problem is there's not enough lads around the 100k mark or less that are good solid regulars. And that's partly due to bandwagoners constantly looking for glamour signings, constant shite talk from ex Man Utd pundits on the state of the board and need for clear-outs and the absolute refusal to apportion any blame or criticism on their old buddies who get the hot seat.
 I just think they need to calm down. Manager looks like he knows what he's doing, they have a decent squad, plenty money behind them, few more little tweaks and they won't be far off.
I’d rather get the likes of Eriksen/Martinez on decent money not massive names but very very good players who buy in to what the club are trying to do and if big money/wages are being forked out, make sure it is for proper quality who will make an clear improvement like Casemiro/ Varane. No egos or drama queens like Pogba.

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« Reply #50889 on: January 26, 2023, 11:10:17 PM »

Don't remember too many complaining when all these "flops" were signed.

Wage bill is also a reflection of talent and size of squad at your disposal. Of course they have to carry flops, everyone does, Arsenal are still carrying Pepe wages, but Utd have the biggest wage bill in the league and are getting a tune out of plenty in the squad. They have a good shape to them if Casemiro stays fit. Leicester bottled it, lets call a spade a spade, which is what Utd have to do not to finish top 4. There's literally no one else in the race bar Spurs who are playing catch up and as flaky as they come.

Plenty complained, sure the priority signing for years was CDM and one wasn't signed until late August this year. Season after season of poor recruitment was done. Overpaying for players in transfer fees and wages the business men running the club was clueless.

More than just keeping Casemiro fit. Who's going to doing the scoring/fill the void if Rashford is out? will need to keep centre back pairing of Varane,Martinez fit as well as their replacements are the flaky Lindelof,Maguire.

One of the main reasons why Leicester as you call it "bottled it" was because of injuries and with upcoming hectic schedule ahead United will be lucky to avoid injuries to key players.
I still can't see Utd not finishing 4th. Think those Leicester seasons, mid 60's points wise got you in. 72 points should be more than enough this year but realistically Spurs will finish in the 66-70 point bracket. Utd will have to go into relegation mode for quarter of the season to be caught.

Regarding signings and incompetent board, biggest mistakes they made was managerial appointments. Sure they have too many players over 150K salary, but not that many really are out and out flops. Problem is there's not enough lads around the 100k mark or less that are good solid regulars. And that's partly due to bandwagoners constantly looking for glamour signings, constant shite talk from ex Man Utd pundits on the state of the board and need for clear-outs and the absolute refusal to apportion any blame or criticism on their old buddies who get the hot seat.
 I just think they need to calm down. Manager looks like he knows what he's doing, they have a decent squad, plenty money behind them, few more little tweaks and they won't be far off.
I’d rather get the likes of Eriksen/Martinez on decent money not massive names but very very good players who buy in to what the club are trying to do and if big money/wages are being forked out, make sure it is for proper quality who will make an clear improvement like Casemiro/ Varane. No egos or drama queens like Pogba.
Of course. I'm just saying the board are damned if they do or don't. There's always pressure to sign big and pundits like Keane and Neville don't help. And this constant shite talk of this player or that player not a "Utd player".  ::) ::) They should be so lucky. Practically all the medals and awards of the last 10 years belong to "non Utd players". Current manager needs time to decide who he wants to work with and who he can improve and who, regardless of who they are, he wants out. Who's to say that in 12 months time he doesn't already have most of what he needs.

Look at Arteta 12 months ago, made some really tough calls, blew up in his face, fans not happy, same old same old thrown about, but a couple of shrewd signings capped off all his hard work of the last few years. He changed the mentality, the culture, but that is the responsibility of the manager really.