Poll
Question:
How much will Roscommon win by?
Option 1: 1-3 points
Option 2: 4-6 points
Option 3: I really wish I was born a Rossie
Sup lads. Go easy on us. :-*
It didn't take you too long after the match to set up this thread Syferus.
Here we go with a month of slagging between Mayo and the rossies. It should be enjoyable reading for myself and other neutrals.
One thing I can say is that Mayo will not beat Roscommon by 17 points.
Let the games begin....
Slagging? I only expect reasoned and respectful debate :D
Your f**king off for the month so?
I'd like to hear from Mayo Mick on this one.
When he feels up to it.
Quote from: sligoman2 on May 19, 2013, 05:57:54 PM
It didn't take you too long after the match to set up this thread Syferus.
Here we go with a month of slagging between Mayo and the rossies. It should be enjoyable reading for myself and other neutrals.
One thing I can say is that Mayo will not beat Roscommon by 17 points.
Let the games begin....
Why?
Quote from: rosnarun on May 20, 2013, 03:57:13 PM
Quote from: sligoman2 on May 19, 2013, 05:57:54 PM
It didn't take you too long after the match to set up this thread Syferus.
Here we go with a month of slagging between Mayo and the rossies. It should be enjoyable reading for myself and other neutrals.
One thing I can say is that Mayo will not beat Roscommon by 17 points.
Let the games begin....
Why?
Because we're a better team than Mayo and last time I checked you can't lose a game by 17 if you win it. Duuuuuuuuh.
Quote from: Syferus on May 20, 2013, 04:01:00 PM
Quote from: rosnarun on May 20, 2013, 03:57:13 PM
Quote from: sligoman2 on May 19, 2013, 05:57:54 PM
It didn't take you too long after the match to set up this thread Syferus.
Here we go with a month of slagging between Mayo and the rossies. It should be enjoyable reading for myself and other neutrals.
One thing I can say is that Mayo will not beat Roscommon by 17 points.
Let the games begin....
Why?
Because we're a better team than Mayo and last time I checked you can't lose a game by 17 if you win it. Duuuuuuuuh.
on what logic you basing that ? (better than mayo bit) i think i get what you mean by the second part , but feel free free to expand if you like
Quote from: rosnarun on May 20, 2013, 04:10:30 PM
Quote from: Syferus on May 20, 2013, 04:01:00 PM
Quote from: rosnarun on May 20, 2013, 03:57:13 PM
Quote from: sligoman2 on May 19, 2013, 05:57:54 PM
It didn't take you too long after the match to set up this thread Syferus.
Here we go with a month of slagging between Mayo and the rossies. It should be enjoyable reading for myself and other neutrals.
One thing I can say is that Mayo will not beat Roscommon by 17 points.
Let the games begin....
Why?
Because we're a better team than Mayo and last time I checked you can't lose a game by 17 if you win it. Duuuuuuuuh.
on what logic you basing that ? (better than mayo bit) i think i get what you mean by the second part , but feel free free to expand if you like
SARCASM ALERT. SARCASM ALERT.
Quote from: Jinxy on May 19, 2013, 06:28:26 PM
I'd like to hear from Mayo Mick on this one.
When he feels up to it.
Not much to say. We will win without much trouble but unlikely Ros will be as charitable as Galway. It's a non event really. If we decide to inflict punishment it could be painful for the sheep but expect a boring drab game that we will win by 6 or 7 pts.
As I said on another post Connacht is decided. Nothing to be discussed until we know who we meet in quarters.
Quote from: Mayo Mick on May 20, 2013, 04:12:26 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on May 19, 2013, 06:28:26 PM
I'd like to hear from Mayo Mick on this one.
When he feels up to it.
Not much to say. We will win without much trouble but unlikely Ros will be as charitable as Galway. It's a non event really. If we decide to inflict punishment it could be painful for the sheep but expect a boring drab game that we will win by 6 or 7 pts.
As I said on another post Connacht is decided. Nothing to be discussed until we know who we meet in quarters.
This lad disgusts me. All real Mayo supporters should be cowering in fear at the prospect for yet another All-Ireland final.
Quote from: Syferus on May 20, 2013, 04:17:33 PM
Quote from: Mayo Mick on May 20, 2013, 04:12:26 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on May 19, 2013, 06:28:26 PM
I'd like to hear from Mayo Mick on this one.
When he feels up to it.
Not much to say. We will win without much trouble but unlikely Ros will be as charitable as Galway. It's a non event really. If we decide to inflict punishment it could be painful for the sheep but expect a boring drab game that we will win by 6 or 7 pts.
As I said on another post Connacht is decided. Nothing to be discussed until we know who we meet in quarters.
This lad disgusts me. All real Mayo supporters should be cowering in fear at the prospect for yet another All-Ireland final.
Schizophrenia is a real problem in Ireland. I'm glad yourself and Mick are able to bring the problem to light on the gaaboard.
Quote from: ballinaman on May 20, 2013, 04:21:59 PM
Quote from: Syferus on May 20, 2013, 04:17:33 PM
Quote from: Mayo Mick on May 20, 2013, 04:12:26 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on May 19, 2013, 06:28:26 PM
I'd like to hear from Mayo Mick on this one.
When he feels up to it.
Not much to say. We will win without much trouble but unlikely Ros will be as charitable as Galway. It's a non event really. If we decide to inflict punishment it could be painful for the sheep but expect a boring drab game that we will win by 6 or 7 pts.
As I said on another post Connacht is decided. Nothing to be discussed until we know who we meet in quarters.
This lad disgusts me. All real Mayo supporters should be cowering in fear at the prospect for yet another All-Ireland final.
Schizophrenia is a real problem in Ireland. I'm glad yourself and Mick are able to bring the problem to light on the gaaboard.
I don't appreciate being critiqued on mental frailties by a Mayoman.
Quote from: Syferus on May 20, 2013, 04:11:54 PM
Quote from: rosnarun on May 20, 2013, 04:10:30 PM
Quote from: Syferus on May 20, 2013, 04:01:00 PM
Quote from: rosnarun on May 20, 2013, 03:57:13 PM
Quote from: sligoman2 on May 19, 2013, 05:57:54 PM
It didn't take you too long after the match to set up this thread Syferus.
Here we go with a month of slagging between Mayo and the rossies. It should be enjoyable reading for myself and other neutrals.
One thing I can say is that Mayo will not beat Roscommon by 17 points.
Let the games begin....
Why?
Because we're a better team than Mayo and last time I checked you can't lose a game by 17 if you win it. Duuuuuuuuh.
on what logic you basing that ? (better than mayo bit) i think i get what you mean by the second part , but feel free free to expand if you like
SARCASM ALERT. SARCASM ALERT.
not into Sarcasm
does this mean you think mayo will beat roscommon by 17 points
Quote from: ballinaman on May 20, 2013, 04:21:59 PM
Quote from: Syferus on May 20, 2013, 04:17:33 PM
Quote from: Mayo Mick on May 20, 2013, 04:12:26 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on May 19, 2013, 06:28:26 PM
I'd like to hear from Mayo Mick on this one.
When he feels up to it.
Not much to say. We will win without much trouble but unlikely Ros will be as charitable as Galway. It's a non event really. If we decide to inflict punishment it could be painful for the sheep but expect a boring drab game that we will win by 6 or 7 pts.
As I said on another post Connacht is decided. Nothing to be discussed until we know who we meet in quarters.
This lad disgusts me. All real Mayo supporters should be cowering in fear at the prospect for yet another All-Ireland final.
Schizophrenia is a real problem in Ireland. I'm glad yourself and Mick are able to bring the problem to light on the gaaboard.
Nothing wrong with my mental health thankfully but I think you should be more careful in making jibes about the issue as I know people who battle with such issues. Instead you might look back at my reading of Sunday's game before writing me off.
Hard to see past Roscommon for this one.
Quote from: Mayo Mick on May 20, 2013, 04:57:36 PM
Quote from: ballinaman on May 20, 2013, 04:21:59 PM
Quote from: Syferus on May 20, 2013, 04:17:33 PM
Quote from: Mayo Mick on May 20, 2013, 04:12:26 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on May 19, 2013, 06:28:26 PM
I'd like to hear from Mayo Mick on this one.
When he feels up to it.
Not much to say. We will win without much trouble but unlikely Ros will be as charitable as Galway. It's a non event really. If we decide to inflict punishment it could be painful for the sheep but expect a boring drab game that we will win by 6 or 7 pts.
As I said on another post Connacht is decided. Nothing to be discussed until we know who we meet in quarters.
This lad disgusts me. All real Mayo supporters should be cowering in fear at the prospect for yet another All-Ireland final.
Schizophrenia is a real problem in Ireland. I'm glad yourself and Mick are able to bring the problem to light on the gaaboard.
Nothing wrong with my mental health thankfully but I think you should be more careful in making jibes about the issue as I know people who battle with such issues. Instead you might look back at my reading of Sunday's game before writing me off.
Syferus doesn't count.
The sheep stealers are waiting in the long grass.
As is their wont.
When walking out of Pearse stadium yesterday yer wan in the midwest radio van said this game will be played in Hyde park, that's nice of Mayo to give us home advantage how about giving us 10 point start as well :P
Lads, just remember that Paul Claffey is the mighty sire of Ros county players and any anger you feel towards hype jobs by Midwest will be doubled.
Quote from: rosnarun on May 20, 2013, 03:57:13 PM
One thing I can say is that Mayo will not beat Roscommon by 17 points.
Why?
Because they'll feckin win by 27 :'(
Quote from: Syferus on May 20, 2013, 06:48:53 PM
Paul Claffey is the mighty sire of Ros county players .
:o :o :o :o :o :o :o
He's obviouslt Geoffrey's dad but...... more than one of the panel ????
Quote from: Rossfan on May 20, 2013, 07:15:48 PM
Quote from: rosnarun on May 20, 2013, 03:57:13 PM
One thing I can say is that Mayo will not beat Roscommon by 17 points.
Why?
Because they'll feckin win by 27 :'(
And to make matters worse a Rossie will do most of the damage :'(
I trust he won't be clenching fists that day as he destroys his own County?? :-\
Quote from: Rossfan on May 20, 2013, 07:29:47 PM
I trust he won't be clenching fists that day as he destroys his own County?? :-\
Nah. That's why he got it out of his system yesterday. Very thoughtful lad.
Quote from: Jinxy on May 20, 2013, 05:57:30 PM
The sheep stealers are waiting in the long grass.
As is their wont.
Grass is scarce this year as the Sheepstealers will find out on June 16!!Nowhere for them to hide!!
Don't know Ballinaman how you came up with the theory that I also post as Syferus. No idea who this Mayo wannabe is and most of the time I don't understand a thing he is saying. I was providing insight here long before he appeared and indeed before my fellow county man Mick Dot. Just thought I would clear that up for you.
As for the game - well I would say all you will get on this thread for the next few weeks is some black humour from the few Rossies and the odd "I'm worried" from some of our own perpetually anxious. I'm taking a break until after Reek Sunday.
Quote from: Syferus on May 20, 2013, 07:45:39 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on May 20, 2013, 07:29:47 PM
I trust he won't be clenching fists that day as he destroys his own County local government area?? :-\
Nah. That's why he got it out of his system yesterday. Very thoughtful lad.
The UK is getting one to leave the EU, Scotland is getting one to leave the UK, the 6 counties is looking to get a referendum too
Maybe we could run a referendum in tandum with the match for Ballaghaderreen's status. Ballagh back to Mayo.
Quote from: mayogodhelpus@gmail.com on May 20, 2013, 08:04:36 PM
Quote from: Syferus on May 20, 2013, 07:45:39 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on May 20, 2013, 07:29:47 PM
I trust he won't be clenching fists that day as he destroys his own County local government area?? :-\
Nah. That's why he got it out of his system yesterday. Very thoughtful lad.
The UK is getting one to leave the EU, Scotland is getting one to leave the UK, the 6 counties is looking to get a referendum too
Maybe we could run a referendum in tandum with the match for Ballaghaderreen's status. Ballagh back to Mayo.
Go ahead, enjoy Andy in lovely Primrose and Blue when it's all said and done though 8)
Lads will need to be careful which of Ballagh's many fine establishments they frequent over the next month. No Solans for me until the night of the 16th :-X
Don't go into any kip that flies the Traitors' rhubarb rag >:( >:( >:( >:(
The height of Sligomans2 season, coming on the site to watch mayo and the rossies slag each other. Might as well, nothing much doing in Sligo anyway.
Quote from: Rossfan on May 20, 2013, 08:56:19 PM
Don't go into any kip that flies the Traitors' rhubarb rag >:( >:( >:( >:(
Ya sound like a typical bitter ould Rossie Planter.
Quote from: mayogodhelpus@gmail.com on May 21, 2013, 12:00:20 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on May 20, 2013, 08:56:19 PM
Don't go into any kip that flies the Traitors' rhubarb rag >:( >:( >:( >:(
Ya sound like a typical bitter ould Rossie Planter.
Nope, he sounds like an 8 year old.
Quote from: Rossfan on May 20, 2013, 07:17:17 PM
Quote from: Syferus on May 20, 2013, 06:48:53 PM
Paul Claffey is the mighty sire of Ros county players .
:o :o :o :o :o :o :o
He's obviouslt Geoffrey's dad but...... more than one of the panel ????
Brother. i think????
Quote from: rosnarun on May 21, 2013, 12:34:15 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on May 20, 2013, 07:17:17 PM
Quote from: Syferus on May 20, 2013, 06:48:53 PM
Paul Claffey is the mighty sire of Ros county players .
:o :o :o :o :o :o :o
He's obviouslt Geoffrey's dad but...... more than one of the panel ????
Brother. i think????
Creative license. Paul's loins mightn't be done yet, though.
Syfín, can you afford the GAAboard's legal fees ;)
How many St brigids players will start for Ros?
Might be as few as one or as many as 5.
Depends whether Evans wants to use Mango from the start or spring him from the bench. Senan K. definite., Ian K possible.
Stack and Donnelly also in the panel.
Cake to be sprung if we get a penalty - or concede one. ;D
Quote from: macdanger2 on May 21, 2013, 04:16:55 PM
How many St brigids players will start for Ros?
Probably three, I think we need to find a place for Ian Kilbride but Mango and Senan Kilbride are nearly sure-fire starters. Peter Domican would be in line too but he's taking a well-earned holiday this summer. Other Brigids players are on the panel but probably won't start. Wouldn't be surprised if they feature as subs, though. Darragh Donnelly and Ronan Stack are playing well if word leaking out is correct.
Odds of 1/2 on PP for three or more starters. No value in it by the looks of things.
Western Gaels got within 2pts of Brigids in Kiltoom on Saturday night with Peter Domican taking a break away from county football & Stack,Donnelly only recently brought into the panel it looks like our starting team against Mayo will have more WG players than Brigids.
I dunno about that. Cregger and Seanie are the only surefire starters with Wardie only returning from injury recently, himself and Ian Kilbride may well be fighting over the same starting berth. I think Mango is going to start before Higgins if it came to that but it's very much possible both will start with Mango at 11.
Quote from: muppet on May 21, 2013, 12:02:22 PM
Quote from: mayogodhelpus@gmail.com on May 21, 2013, 12:00:20 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on May 20, 2013, 08:56:19 PM
Don't go into any kip that flies the Traitors' rhubarb rag >:( >:( >:( >:(
Ya sound like a typical bitter ould Rossie Planter.
Nope, he sounds like an 8 year old.
He will like your avatar so ;)
Mango?
Quote from: macdanger2 on May 21, 2013, 10:40:30 PM
Quote from: IolarCoisCuain on May 21, 2013, 10:13:32 PM
Mango?
All Ros players have food-related nicknames ;D
There is a bus stop on the East Coast of Queensland, fairly North where the mens toilets had a sign "Mangoes" and the ladies says "No Mangoes"
Quote from: IolarCoisCuain on May 21, 2013, 10:13:32 PM
Mango?
Karol 'Don't call me Carl' Mangolicious Mannion. Midfielder. Solicitor. Leader of men. Untapped natural talent for handball. Winner of All-Ireland finals in Croke Park. 8)
Quote from: Syferus on May 21, 2013, 10:46:33 PM
Quote from: IolarCoisCuain on May 21, 2013, 10:13:32 PM
Mango?
Karol 'Don't call me Carl' Mangolicious Mannion. Midfielder. Solicitor. Leader of men. Untapped natural talent for handball. Winner of senior All-Ireland finals in Croke Park. 8)
finals?
Quote from: ballinaman on May 22, 2013, 01:34:19 AM
Quote from: Syferus on May 21, 2013, 10:46:33 PM
Quote from: IolarCoisCuain on May 21, 2013, 10:13:32 PM
Mango?
Karol 'Don't call me Carl' Mangolicious Mannion. Midfielder. Solicitor. Leader of men. Untapped natural talent for handball. Winner of senior All-Ireland finals in Croke Park. 8)
finals?
I'd have to get back to you on the location of the final but Mango has a junior AI from 2000. Cake has one from that year too 8)
Quote from: Syferus on May 22, 2013, 01:37:07 AM
Quote from: ballinaman on May 22, 2013, 01:34:19 AM
Quote from: Syferus on May 21, 2013, 10:46:33 PM
Quote from: IolarCoisCuain on May 21, 2013, 10:13:32 PM
Mango?
Karol 'Don't call me Carl' Mangolicious Mannion. Midfielder. Solicitor. Leader of men. Untapped natural talent for handball. Winner of senior All-Ireland finals in Croke Park. 8)
finals?
I'd have to get back to you on the location of the final but Mango has a junior AI from 2000. Cake has one from that year too 8)
Junior = Senior?
Quote from: Tubberman on May 22, 2013, 03:22:14 AM
Quote from: Syferus on May 22, 2013, 01:37:07 AM
Quote from: ballinaman on May 22, 2013, 01:34:19 AM
Quote from: Syferus on May 21, 2013, 10:46:33 PM
Quote from: IolarCoisCuain on May 21, 2013, 10:13:32 PM
Mango?
Karol 'Don't call me Carl' Mangolicious Mannion. Midfielder. Solicitor. Leader of men. Untapped natural talent for handball. Winner of senior All-Ireland finals in Croke Park. 8)
finals?
I'd have to get back to you on the location of the final but Mango has a junior AI from 2000. Cake has one from that year too 8)
Junior = Senior?
A mere typo in an otherwise perfect soliloquy 8)
Quote from: Syferus on May 22, 2013, 01:37:07 AM
Quote from: ballinaman on May 22, 2013, 01:34:19 AM
Quote from: Syferus on May 21, 2013, 10:46:33 PM
Quote from: IolarCoisCuain on May 21, 2013, 10:13:32 PM
Mango?
Karol 'Don't call me Carl' Mangolicious Mannion. Midfielder. Solicitor. Leader of men. Untapped natural talent for handball. Winner of senior All-Ireland finals in Croke Park. 8)
finals?
I'd have to get back to you on the location of the final but Mango has a junior AI from 2000. Cake has one from that year too 8)
That Junior final was in Nenagh childeen - I suspect that was the year you were born ;D :D
Back to the impending rhubard onslaught.... I dont think we can honestly say we are in a position to state we can beat Mayo. They are genuinely a last 4 championship side..... Div 1 league side. We languish well below that level in both competitions.
However their recent blitzkrieg of Galway should ensure we wont be complacent or taken by surprise like the tribesmen were. We probably have more size and physique that will enable us to compete better when it comes to the hard ball. We have some decent forwards who are also big ball winning men.
We should be competitive at the very least in order to restore some pride after last season and provide a platform for us in the qualifiers. After that anything extra is a bonus. Not a bad situation to be in. Pressure on Mayo!
Quote from: ross matt on May 23, 2013, 08:46:39 PM
We should be competitive at the very least in order to restore some pride after last season and provide a platform for us in the qualifiers. After that anything extra is a bonus. Not a bad situation to be in. Pressure on Mayo!
A few Qualifier rounds would do our lads a power of good.
As for the pressure on Mayo bit Matt :D - sure maybe they might crack under it ;D
Quote from: Rossfan on May 23, 2013, 08:53:15 PM
Quote from: ross matt on May 23, 2013, 08:46:39 PM
We should be competitive at the very least in order to restore some pride after last season and provide a platform for us in the qualifiers. After that anything extra is a bonus. Not a bad situation to be in. Pressure on Mayo!
A few Qualifier rounds would do our lads a power of good.
As for the pressure on Mayo bit Matt :D - sure maybe they might crack under it ;D
Hope spring eternal Rossfan! ;)
Possibly the greatest GAA fan ever?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=_CcDIdd2ycQ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=_CcDIdd2ycQ)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=mRJl5Srx4e0#! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=mRJl5Srx4e0#!)
Quote from: From the Bunker on May 24, 2013, 01:26:39 PM
Possibly the greatest GAA fan ever?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=_CcDIdd2ycQ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=_CcDIdd2ycQ)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=mRJl5Srx4e0#! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=mRJl5Srx4e0#!)
"If you could put those three (Harry Keegan, Tony Mac and Dermot) on a grill you'd have some player"
I think you can remove the 'possibly'. Greatness on the field and off it 8)
Paddy Joe seems to be one hell of a character alright but I wouldn't say he is the greatest fan I've heard of.
For me, it has to be our own Sligonian, followed closely by his dad.
Paddy Joe would at best be only third on my wish list.
Injury curse strikes again -Cillians shoulder gone again dis eve
against claremorris
Quote from: sans pessimism on May 25, 2013, 07:12:38 PM
Injury curse strikes again -Cillians shoulder gone again dis eve
against claremorris
You are joking?
Unfortunately not -gone to casualty
He'd be the forward ye can least afford to be without. We'll foul you all over the field and so will every team you play if he's out.
Quote from: Syferus on May 25, 2013, 07:21:44 PM
He'd be the forward ye can least afford to be without. We'll foul you all over the field and so will every team you play if he's out.
Calm down now don't get to excited! ::)
Quote from: From the Bunker on May 25, 2013, 07:34:54 PM
Quote from: Syferus on May 25, 2013, 07:21:44 PM
He'd be the forward ye can least afford to be without. We'll foul you all over the field and so will every team you play if he's out.
Calm down now don't get to excited! ::)
Don't worry buck, Niall Carty picked up an injury today too so it's honours even.
Quote from: Syferus on May 25, 2013, 07:36:39 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on May 25, 2013, 07:34:54 PM
Quote from: Syferus on May 25, 2013, 07:21:44 PM
He'd be the forward ye can least afford to be without. We'll foul you all over the field and so will every team you play if he's out.
Calm down now don't get to excited! ::)
Don't worry buck, Niall Carty picked up an injury today too so it's honours even.
No worries here! ;D
Quote from: From the Bunker on May 25, 2013, 07:39:40 PM
Quote from: Syferus on May 25, 2013, 07:36:39 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on May 25, 2013, 07:34:54 PM
Quote from: Syferus on May 25, 2013, 07:21:44 PM
He'd be the forward ye can least afford to be without. We'll foul you all over the field and so will every team you play if he's out.
Calm down now don't get to excited! ::)
Don't worry buck, Niall Carty picked up an injury today too so it's honours even.
No worries here! ;D
Any word on the severity of the injury?
Quote from: mayogodhelpus@gmail.com on May 25, 2013, 08:48:21 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on May 25, 2013, 07:39:40 PM
Quote from: Syferus on May 25, 2013, 07:36:39 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on May 25, 2013, 07:34:54 PM
Quote from: Syferus on May 25, 2013, 07:21:44 PM
He'd be the forward ye can least afford to be without. We'll foul you all over the field and so will every team you play if he's out.
Calm down now don't get to excited! ::)
Don't worry buck, Niall Carty picked up an injury today too so it's honours even.
No worries here! ;D
Any word on the severity of the injury?
dislocated again
Quote from: sans pessimism on May 25, 2013, 08:52:17 PM
Quote from: mayogodhelpus@gmail.com on May 25, 2013, 08:48:21 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on May 25, 2013, 07:39:40 PM
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Quote from: Syferus on May 25, 2013, 07:21:44 PM
He'd be the forward ye can least afford to be without. We'll foul you all over the field and so will every team you play if he's out.
Calm down now don't get to excited! ::)
Don't worry buck, Niall Carty picked up an injury today too so it's honours even.
No worries here! ;D
Any word on the severity of the injury?
dislocated again
If it's as bad as the last time we mightn't see him again in this year's championship. Beyond any short-term advantage it offers us you never like to see injuries recurring. COC really was looking the part on Sunday to boot.
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Quote from: Syferus on May 25, 2013, 07:36:39 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on May 25, 2013, 07:34:54 PM
Quote from: Syferus on May 25, 2013, 07:21:44 PM
He'd be the forward ye can least afford to be without. We'll foul you all over the field and so will every team you play if he's out.
Calm down now don't get to excited! ::)
Don't worry buck, Niall Carty picked up an injury today too so it's honours even.
No worries here! ;D
Any word on the severity of the injury?
dislocated again
If it's as bad as the last time we mightn't see him again in this year's championship. Beyond any short-term advantage it offers us you never like to see injuries recurring. COC really was looking the part on Sunday to boot.
Wonder has any other county a similar injury rate to county footballers in club matches as we've had the last 2-3 months???
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Quote from: Syferus on May 25, 2013, 07:21:44 PM
He'd be the forward ye can least afford to be without. We'll foul you all over the field and so will every team you play if he's out.
I'd doubt it. It's a bloody disaster for Mayo. We might struggle through but to win an AI you need all the breaks to go for you and last year and so far thisnyear we have lost too many players.
Calm down now don't get to excited! ::)
Don't worry buck, Niall Carty picked up an injury today too so it's honours even.
No worries here! ;D
Any word on the severity of the injury?
dislocated again
If it's as bad as the last time we mightn't see him again in this year's championship. Beyond any short-term advantage it offers us you never like to see injuries recurring. COC really was looking the part on Sunday to boot.
Wonder has any other county a similar injury rate to county footballers in club matches as we've had the last 2-3 months???
Don't know where my post went so...
In order to win an AI, everything needs to go for you. Last year we lost Andy Moran in the QF. This year already it looks like our luck is out again. To look like losing COC (Young player of the year x2 and our freetaker) with the same injury that kept him out for months is a disaster.
Quote from: Chimley on May 25, 2013, 10:09:27 PM
Don't know where my post went so...
In order to win an AI, everything needs to go for you. Last year we lost Andy Moran in the QF. This year already it looks like our luck is out again. To look like losing COC (Young player of the year x2 and our freetaker) with the same injury that kept him out for months is a disaster.
I know it's defeatest and I hope the lads on the panel don't have my attitude, but I reckon three in-a-row Connacht title would be an achievement in itself. To be honest the lads health is more important than our disappointment.
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Quote from: Chimley on May 25, 2013, 10:09:27 PM
Don't know where my post went so...
In order to win an AI, everything needs to go for you. Last year we lost Andy Moran in the QF. This year already it looks like our luck is out again. To look like losing COC (Young player of the year x2 and our freetaker) with the same injury that kept him out for months is a disaster.
I know it's defeatest and I hope the lads on the panel don't have my attitude, but I reckon three in-a-row Connacht title would be an achievement in itself. To be honest the lads health is more important than our disappointment.
+ 1 - You see what getting injuries as a youth while playing senior has done to Michael Meehan. Constant pressure to come back early before he was right.
Quote from: Syferus on May 25, 2013, 07:21:44 PM
He'd be the forward ye can least afford to be without. We'll foul you all over the field and so will every team you play if he's out.
Sad but predictable reaction.Now take your place with the jeering louts
behind the goal where I have no doubt you were in 2011 when young Cillian
kicked ye out of connacht
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Quote from: Syferus on May 25, 2013, 07:21:44 PM
He'd be the forward ye can least afford to be without. We'll foul you all over the field and so will every team you play if he's out.
Sad but predictable reaction.Now take your place with the jeering louts
behind the goal where I have no doubt you were in 2011 when young Cillian
kicked ye out of connacht
Did you hit your head or something?
Maggie and hardstation if unavailable on tv go to hahasport.com and you should get it there.
Quote from: sans pessimism on May 25, 2013, 07:12:38 PM
Injury curse strikes again -Cillians shoulder gone again dis eve
against claremorris
f**k sake
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Quote from: sans pessimism on May 25, 2013, 07:12:38 PM
Injury curse strikes again -Cillians shoulder gone again dis eve
against claremorris
f**k sake
>:(
I really have my fill of injury news from Mayo Camp :(
Evan Regan played no part for Ballina yesterday. Must be serious again so.
Not saying he d be starting 15 if fit, but he s another option gone and is a serious option on frees from the right.
Who'll take the frees the next day assuming CO'C isn't availale? Will Doc be fit? Otherwise, it'll probably be a mixture of McL and Dillon. Hopefully we won't end up back in the situation where we have 4\5 different players having a shot and losing confidence when they miss one.
The other option would be to bring in someone new like say Adam Gallagher / Ryan Quirke / AN Other?? Seems unlikely for this match but if CO'C were to be out longterm then something should be considered - a reliable freetaker is crucial if you make it to the latter stages.
Quote from: macdanger2 on May 27, 2013, 12:39:57 PM
Who'll take the frees the next day assuming CO'C isn't availale? Will Doc be fit? Otherwise, it'll probably be a mixture of McL and Dillon. Hopefully we won't end up back in the situation where we have 4\5 different players having a shot and losing confidence when they miss one.
The other option would be to bring in someone new like say Adam Gallagher / Ryan Quirke / AN Other?? Seems unlikely for this match but if CO'C were to be out longterm then something should be considered - a reliable freetaker is crucial if you make it to the latter stages.
Cillian should be back for quarter final and that's all that matters. If we were to miss half the scorable frees against Ros the only difference would be the size of the winning margin. Same v Leitrim.
Quote from: Mayo Mick on May 27, 2013, 12:56:50 PM
Quote from: macdanger2 on May 27, 2013, 12:39:57 PM
Who'll take the frees the next day assuming CO'C isn't availale? Will Doc be fit? Otherwise, it'll probably be a mixture of McL and Dillon. Hopefully we won't end up back in the situation where we have 4\5 different players having a shot and losing confidence when they miss one.
The other option would be to bring in someone new like say Adam Gallagher / Ryan Quirke / AN Other?? Seems unlikely for this match but if CO'C were to be out longterm then something should be considered - a reliable freetaker is crucial if you make it to the latter stages.
Cillian should be back for quarter final and that's all that matters. If we were to miss half the scorable frees against Ros the only difference would be the size of the winning margin. Same v Leitrim.
Normally I wouldn't bite but you're a gobshite of the highest order.
Quote from: macdanger2 on May 27, 2013, 12:39:57 PM
Who'll take the frees the next day assuming CO'C isn't availale? Will Doc be fit? Otherwise, it'll probably be a mixture of McL and Dillon. Hopefully we won't end up back in the situation where we have 4\5 different players having a shot and losing confidence when they miss one.
The other option would be to bring in someone new like say Adam Gallagher / Ryan Quirke / AN Other?? Seems unlikely for this match but if CO'C were to be out longterm then something should be considered - a reliable freetaker is crucial if you make it to the latter stages.
I don't think COC will make the quarters if we get there, it's a fairly serious injury, could even require surgery.
Horan may now be tempted to start Andy Moran because of this, let's hope he's ready.
Front six will be probably be McLoughlin, Dillon,Carolan,Doherty,Moran & Varley.
Will Dillon move to six or will Horan revert to using Doherty there? Have to say I'm not a fan of Doherty at CHF, I'd sooner have Dillon or Moran there.
Doherty and McLoughlin shared a lot of the freetaking during the league so this may well be the approach.
Quote from: macdanger2 on May 27, 2013, 12:39:57 PM
Who'll take the frees the next day assuming CO'C isn't availale? Will Doc be fit? Otherwise, it'll probably be a mixture of McL and Dillon. Hopefully we won't end up back in the situation where we have 4\5 different players having a shot and losing confidence when they miss one.
The other option would be to bring in someone new like say Adam Gallagher / Ryan Quirke / AN Other?? Seems unlikely for this match but if CO'C were to be out longterm then something should be considered - a reliable freetaker is crucial if you make it to the latter stages.
I assume Varley will take some given the bombs he scored against Dublin last September?
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Quote from: macdanger2 on May 27, 2013, 12:39:57 PM
Who'll take the frees the next day assuming CO'C isn't availale? Will Doc be fit? Otherwise, it'll probably be a mixture of McL and Dillon. Hopefully we won't end up back in the situation where we have 4\5 different players having a shot and losing confidence when they miss one.
The other option would be to bring in someone new like say Adam Gallagher / Ryan Quirke / AN Other?? Seems unlikely for this match but if CO'C were to be out longterm then something should be considered - a reliable freetaker is crucial if you make it to the latter stages.
Cillian should be back for quarter final and that's all that matters. If we were to miss half the scorable frees against Ros the only difference would be the size of the winning margin. Same v Leitrim.
Normally I wouldn't bite but you're a gobshite of the highest order.
Normally I would not reply but why am I a gobshite. Is it because CO'C won't be back for qtr final or are you seriously suggesting that either Leitrim or Ros could beat us!!! We are guaranteed to be in the qtrs by the front door - absolutely no chance of we not winning Connacht.
Definite last word from me until after Reek Sunday!!!
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Quote from: macdanger2 on May 27, 2013, 12:39:57 PM
Who'll take the frees the next day assuming CO'C isn't availale? Will Doc be fit? Otherwise, it'll probably be a mixture of McL and Dillon. Hopefully we won't end up back in the situation where we have 4\5 different players having a shot and losing confidence when they miss one.
The other option would be to bring in someone new like say Adam Gallagher / Ryan Quirke / AN Other?? Seems unlikely for this match but if CO'C were to be out longterm then something should be considered - a reliable freetaker is crucial if you make it to the latter stages.
Cillian should be back for quarter final and that's all that matters. If we were to miss half the scorable frees against Ros the only difference would be the size of the winning margin. Same v Leitrim.
Normally I wouldn't bite but you're a gobshite of the highest order.
Normally I would not reply but why am I a gobshite. Is it because CO'C won't be back for qtr final or are you seriously suggesting that either Leitrim or Ros could beat us!!! We are guaranteed to be in the qtrs by the front door - absolutely no chance of we not winning Connacht.
Definite last word from me until after Reek Sunday!!!
Maybe Cillians health
matters more than him been back for the QF....
Quote from: FL/MAYO on May 27, 2013, 03:09:52 PM
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Quote from: macdanger2 on May 27, 2013, 12:39:57 PM
Who'll take the frees the next day assuming CO'C isn't availale? Will Doc be fit? Otherwise, it'll probably be a mixture of McL and Dillon. Hopefully we won't end up back in the situation where we have 4\5 different players having a shot and losing confidence when they miss one.
The other option would be to bring in someone new like say Adam Gallagher / Ryan Quirke / AN Other?? Seems unlikely for this match but if CO'C were to be out longterm then something should be considered - a reliable freetaker is crucial if you make it to the latter stages.
Cillian should be back for quarter final and that's all that matters. If we were to miss half the scorable frees against Ros the only difference would be the size of the winning margin. Same v Leitrim.
Normally I wouldn't bite but you're a gobshite of the highest order.
Normally I would not reply but why am I a gobshite. Is it because CO'C won't be back for qtr final or are you seriously suggesting that either Leitrim or Ros could beat us!!! We are guaranteed to be in the qtrs by the front door - absolutely no chance of we not winning Connacht.
Definite last word from me until after Reek Sunday!!!
Maybe Cillians health matters more than him been back for the QF....
Well in all fairness lads. If Cillian is back for the quarters is this not a positive thing healthwise
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Quote from: macdanger2 on May 27, 2013, 12:39:57 PM
Who'll take the frees the next day assuming CO'C isn't availale? Will Doc be fit? Otherwise, it'll probably be a mixture of McL and Dillon. Hopefully we won't end up back in the situation where we have 4\5 different players having a shot and losing confidence when they miss one.
The other option would be to bring in someone new like say Adam Gallagher / Ryan Quirke / AN Other?? Seems unlikely for this match but if CO'C were to be out longterm then something should be considered - a reliable freetaker is crucial if you make it to the latter stages.
Cillian should be back for quarter final and that's all that matters. If we were to miss half the scorable frees against Ros the only difference would be the size of the winning margin. Same v Leitrim.
Normally I wouldn't bite but you're a gobshite of the highest order.
Normally I would not reply but why am I a gobshite. Is it because CO'C won't be back for qtr final or are you seriously suggesting that either Leitrim or Ros could beat us!!! We are guaranteed to be in the qtrs by the front door - absolutely no chance of we not winning Connacht.
Definite last word from me until after Reek Sunday!!!
Maybe Cillians health matters more than him been back for the QF....
Well in all fairness lads. If Cillian is back for the quarters is this not a positive thing healthwise
Word about scans on Thursday to decide if surgery is needed and if that ends up the course of action COC's season is done. Really needs to be careful not to pressure himself into rushing back because this injury is on the verge of becoming chronic and that would be disasterous for such a young (and very talented) player.
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Quote from: macdanger2 on May 27, 2013, 12:39:57 PM
Who'll take the frees the next day assuming CO'C isn't availale? Will Doc be fit? Otherwise, it'll probably be a mixture of McL and Dillon. Hopefully we won't end up back in the situation where we have 4\5 different players having a shot and losing confidence when they miss one.
The other option would be to bring in someone new like say Adam Gallagher / Ryan Quirke / AN Other?? Seems unlikely for this match but if CO'C were to be out longterm then something should be considered - a reliable freetaker is crucial if you make it to the latter stages.
Cillian should be back for quarter final and that's all that matters. If we were to miss half the scorable frees against Ros the only difference would be the size of the winning margin. Same v Leitrim.
Normally I wouldn't bite but you're a gobshite of the highest order.
Normally I would not reply but why am I a gobshite. Is it because CO'C won't be back for qtr final or are you seriously suggesting that either Leitrim or Ros could beat us!!! We are guaranteed to be in the qtrs by the front door - absolutely no chance of we not winning Connacht.
Definite last word from me until after Reek Sunday!!!
Maybe Cillians health matters more than him been back for the QF....
Well in all fairness lads. If Cillian is back for the quarters is this not a positive thing healthwise
As long as he is not rushed back. If he does not let the shoulder heal fully his career could be jeopardised. You know the pressure will be on for him to return ASAP especially if we get to the QF.
AFAIK, he's in his final year in St. Pat's, Drumcondra and should be sitting his final exams right now.
Even if he's only in second year, he still have important exams to worry about.
(Farrandeelin would know more about this than I do as it's been a long, long time since I was there.)
I sincerely hope his injuries don't affect his career prospects.
I'd love to see him back in action ASAP but it's not the only thing to worry about.
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Who'll take the frees the next day assuming CO'C isn't availale? Will Doc be fit? Otherwise, it'll probably be a mixture of McL and Dillon. Hopefully we won't end up back in the situation where we have 4\5 different players having a shot and losing confidence when they miss one.
The other option would be to bring in someone new like say Adam Gallagher / Ryan Quirke / AN Other?? Seems unlikely for this match but if CO'C were to be out longterm then something should be considered - a reliable freetaker is crucial if you make it to the latter stages.
Cillian should be back for quarter final and that's all that matters. If we were to miss half the scorable frees against Ros the only difference would be the size of the winning margin. Same v Leitrim.
Normally I wouldn't bite but you're a gobshite of the highest order.
Normally I would not reply but why am I a gobshite. Is it because CO'C won't be back for qtr final or are you seriously suggesting that either Leitrim or Ros could beat us!!! We are guaranteed to be in the qtrs by the front door - absolutely no chance of we not winning Connacht.
Definite last word from me until after Reek Sunday!!!
Maybe Cillians health matters more than him been back for the QF....
Well in all fairness lads. If Cillian is back for the quarters is this not a positive thing healthwise
As long as he is not rushed back. If he does not let the shoulder heal fully his career could be jeopardised. You know the pressure will be on for him to return ASAP especially if we get to the QF.
agree - folks need to take a long term view here. I'm gutted as most other Mayo fans on another injury to a lad that making a big name for himself. That said his health is what is important here. What ever the news next Thursday, I hope he gets the time and space to mend and for him to come back when he is fit and well.
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Quote from: macdanger2 on May 27, 2013, 12:39:57 PM
Who'll take the frees the next day assuming CO'C isn't availale? Will Doc be fit? Otherwise, it'll probably be a mixture of McL and Dillon. Hopefully we won't end up back in the situation where we have 4\5 different players having a shot and losing confidence when they miss one.
The other option would be to bring in someone new like say Adam Gallagher / Ryan Quirke / AN Other?? Seems unlikely for this match but if CO'C were to be out longterm then something should be considered - a reliable freetaker is crucial if you make it to the latter stages.
Cillian should be back for quarter final and that's all that matters. If we were to miss half the scorable frees against Ros the only difference would be the size of the winning margin. Same v Leitrim.
Normally I wouldn't bite but you're a gobshite of the highest order.
Normally I would not reply but why am I a gobshite. Is it because CO'C won't be back for qtr final or are you seriously suggesting that either Leitrim or Ros could beat us!!! We are guaranteed to be in the qtrs by the front door - absolutely no chance of we not winning Connacht.
Definite last word from me until after Reek Sunday!!!
Maybe Cillians health matters more than him been back for the QF....
Well in all fairness lads. If Cillian is back for the quarters is this not a positive thing healthwise
As long as he is not rushed back. If he does not let the shoulder heal fully his career could be jeopardised. You know the pressure will be on for him to return ASAP especially if we get to the QF.
agree - folks need to take a long term view here. I'm gutted as most other Mayo fans on another injury to a lad that making a big name for himself. That said his health is what is important here. What ever the news next Thursday, I hope he gets the time and space to mend and for him to come back when he is fit and well.
You know that in the first minute of his comeback game he is going to get a massive hit on the affected shoulder, if he is not 100% he should not be allowed to come back.....for his own sake.
Quote from: Lar Naparka on May 27, 2013, 04:02:23 PM
AFAIK, he's in his final year in St. Pat's, Drumcondra and should be sitting his final exams right now.
Even if he's only in second year, he still have important exams to worry about.
(Farrandeelin would know more about this than I do as it's been a long, long time since I was there.)
I sincerely hope his injuries don't affect his career prospects.
I'd love to see him back in action ASAP but it's not the only thing to worry about.
R
cils exams all finished (last exam was Sat -his day went downhill after that).His final
year is finished,but he's going back to Pats as Student Union Vice Pres in July
Connacht Telegraph tweeted that he is out for the season.
Tough luck on the lad. Hope to see him back, better and scoring points against non-Ros opposition next year.
No point to this game at all according to the Indo: http://www.independent.ie/sport/london-secure-connacht-title-29297856.html (http://www.independent.ie/sport/london-secure-connacht-title-29297856.html)
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No point to this game at all according to the Indo: http://www.independent.ie/sport/london-secure-connacht-title-29297856.html (http://www.independent.ie/sport/london-secure-connacht-title-29297856.html)
Quote(http://cdn3.independent.ie/sport/article29297855.ece/ALTERNATES/h342/PANews_N0042161369590001446A_I1.jpg)
London secured the Connacht SFC title with a 1-12 to 0-14 win over Sligo
No wonder London won if they were playing Aussie Rules. Sneaky bastards.
Quote from: muppet on May 27, 2013, 06:03:37 PM
Connacht Telegraph tweeted that he is out for the season.
how can they know that -scan isn't til Thursday
I promised I wasn't going to post anything until after the club championship first round here in Mayo about this game, and I've managed to stick to my word surprisingly. But it is a f**ker about Cillian. That's all I can think of now, he was very good the last day against Galway. He's so young as well, it's annoying that the same shoulder (as is reported) has given in again. Here's to a speedy recovery for COC and hope this cursed injury doesn't keep you out for too long. I'd say he will take all the right steps on the road to recovery though.
O'Connor missing will be a big blow to Mayo later in the championship but not in Connacht. They will blow Roscommon away.
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. They will blow Roscommon away.
Good man yerself. :-*
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Quote from: BluestackBoy on May 27, 2013, 10:45:56 PM
. They will blow Roscommon away.
Good man yerself. :-*
Don't think so! Roscommon unlike Galway will not be caught by surprise, the cat is outta the bag. I do expect Mayo to win, but it will be a struggle!
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. They will blow Roscommon away.
Good man yerself. :-*
Don't think so! Roscommon unlike Galway will not be caught by surprise, the cat is outta the bag. I do expect Mayo to win, but it will be a struggle!
And we're a feral cat at that.
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. They will blow Roscommon away.
Good man yerself. :-*
Don't think so! Roscommon unlike Galway will not be caught by surprise, the cat is outta the bag. I do expect Mayo to win, but it will be a struggle!
And we're a feral cat at that.
Oh yeah?
Well, we'll chase ye up the nearest goalpost!
Jason Doherty did not play club last Sunday either.
Jason Doherty, Evan Regan, Michael Conroy, Brian Gallagher, Barry Moran and Danny Geraghty didn't play at the weekend. Andy Moran came on as a sub for Ballagh and looked very lively from what I've heard.
Cillian isn't out for the season as of yet. If he doesn't have surgery until the winter, he could be back anytime between six and 12 weeks depending on the nature of the damage. Surgery would be a very minimum of 12 weeks out, probably longer. Not sure on the extent of Doherty's injury but Mayo need him back pronto for frees.
Can we take it that Conroy is well on the road to recovery?
Quote from: Lar Naparka on May 28, 2013, 01:23:58 PM
Can we take it that Conroy is well on the road to recovery?
August was the last I heard.
I think it'd be madness for CO'C to put off needed surgery on a reinjured shoulder just to have a chance of maybe playing later in the year. I'd be very frightened to see a player attempt that because there usually is only one way a story like that ends.
Quote from: Syferus on May 28, 2013, 01:47:31 PM
I think it'd be madness for CO'C to put off needed surgery on a reinjured shoulder just to have a chance of maybe playing later in the year. I'd be very frightened to see a player attempt that because there usually is only one way a story like that ends.
I am sure your remedy will be given the highest consideration, but I hope they give the medical team a hearing.
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Quote from: Syferus on May 28, 2013, 01:47:31 PM
I think it'd be madness for CO'C to put off needed surgery on a reinjured shoulder just to have a chance of maybe playing later in the year. I'd be very frightened to see a player attempt that because there usually is only one way a story like that ends.
I am sure your remedy will be given the highest consideration, but I hope they give the medical team a hearing.
That
is rushing back, whatever kind of gloss you want to put on it.
If the same people who don't want him to rush back don't have a problem with that they are talking out of both sides of their mouth. Are you?
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Quote from: Syferus on May 28, 2013, 01:47:31 PM
I think it'd be madness for CO'C to put off needed surgery on a reinjured shoulder just to have a chance of maybe playing later in the year. I'd be very frightened to see a player attempt that because there usually is only one way a story like that ends.
I am sure your remedy will be given the highest consideration, but I hope they give the medical team a hearing.
That is rushing back, whatever kind of gloss you want to put on it.
If the same people who don't want him to rush back don't have a problem with that they are talking out of both sides of their mouth. Are you?
Syfín - will ya for fcuk sake leave the rhubarbs to sort out their own injuries etc. ::)
I'm hoping that young O'Connor will have 12 months to recover before he's needed by his county again. ;D
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Quote from: Syferus on May 28, 2013, 01:47:31 PM
I think it'd be madness for CO'C to put off needed surgery on a reinjured shoulder just to have a chance of maybe playing later in the year. I'd be very frightened to see a player attempt that because there usually is only one way a story like that ends.
I am sure your remedy will be given the highest consideration, but I hope they give the medical team a hearing.
That is rushing back, whatever kind of gloss you want to put on it.
If the same people who don't want him to rush back don't have a problem with that they are talking out of both sides of their mouth. Are you?
unlike people who yap constantly through their arse
Quote from: Syferus on May 28, 2013, 01:47:31 PM
I think it'd be madness for CO'C to put off needed surgery on a reinjured shoulder just to have a chance of maybe playing later in the year. I'd be very frightened to see a player attempt that because there usually is only one way a story like that ends.
I'm with you this, he needs to rest that shoulder, coming back next summer for the four in a row should be his goal ;D
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QuoteI think it'd be madness for CO'C to put off needed surgery on a reinjured shoulder just to have a chance of maybe playing later in the year. I'd be very frightened to see a player attempt that because there usually is only one way a story like that ends.
He put the surgery off the first time it happened, were you very scared then?
Quote from: highorlow on May 28, 2013, 04:36:19 PM
QuoteI think it'd be madness for CO'C to put off needed surgery on a reinjured shoulder just to have a chance of maybe playing later in the year. I'd be very frightened to see a player attempt that because there usually is only one way a story like that ends.
He put the surgery off the first time it happened, were you very scared then?
Hadn't a clue he did that. The exact same logic applies and what's happened since then only reinforces the logic. He'll have plenty more years to play for his county without forcing himself back half-cooked and risking developing a chronic shoulder problem that will haunt his life far beyond his football days.
Quote from: Syferus on May 28, 2013, 04:47:59 PM
Quote from: highorlow on May 28, 2013, 04:36:19 PM
QuoteI think it'd be madness for CO'C to put off needed surgery on a reinjured shoulder just to have a chance of maybe playing later in the year. I'd be very frightened to see a player attempt that because there usually is only one way a story like that ends.
He put the surgery off the first time it happened, were you very scared then?
Hadn't a clue he did that. The exact same logic applies and what's happened since then only reinforces the logic. He'll have plenty more years to play for his county without forcing himself back half-cooked and risking developing a chronic shoulder problem that will haunt his life far beyond his football days.
Agree with Syferus on this one. He should put his own health and wellbeing first and Mayo second... How's Barry Moran progressing? I was kind of mulling over himself and AOS midfield and SOS at no 11 in my mind today, 3 big men in the middle.
Quote from: Farrandeelin on May 28, 2013, 09:32:03 PM
Quote from: Syferus on May 28, 2013, 04:47:59 PM
Quote from: highorlow on May 28, 2013, 04:36:19 PM
QuoteI think it'd be madness for CO'C to put off needed surgery on a reinjured shoulder just to have a chance of maybe playing later in the year. I'd be very frightened to see a player attempt that because there usually is only one way a story like that ends.
He put the surgery off the first time it happened, were you very scared then?
Hadn't a clue he did that. The exact same logic applies and what's happened since then only reinforces the logic. He'll have plenty more years to play for his county without forcing himself back half-cooked and risking developing a chronic shoulder problem that will haunt his life far beyond his football days.
Agree with Syferus on this one. He should put his own health and wellbeing first and Mayo second... How's Barry Moran progressing? I was kind of mulling over himself and AOS midfield and SOS at no 11 in my mind today, 3 big men in the middle.
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Not sure I'd agree. The one major difference between our half forward line which struggled during the league and the one that helped contribute to the scoreline against Galway was that we had an out and out forward at 11.
Quote from: bucko on May 28, 2013, 09:44:13 PM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on May 28, 2013, 09:32:03 PM
Quote from: Syferus on May 28, 2013, 04:47:59 PM
Quote from: highorlow on May 28, 2013, 04:36:19 PM
QuoteI think it'd be madness for CO'C to put off needed surgery on a reinjured shoulder just to have a chance of maybe playing later in the year. I'd be very frightened to see a player attempt that because there usually is only one way a story like that ends.
He put the surgery off the first time it happened, were you very scared then?
Hadn't a clue he did that. The exact same logic applies and what's happened since then only reinforces the logic. He'll have plenty more years to play for his county without forcing himself back half-cooked and risking developing a chronic shoulder problem that will haunt his life far beyond his football days.
Agree with Syferus on this one. He should put his own health and wellbeing first and Mayo second... How's Barry Moran progressing? I was kind of mulling over himself and AOS midfield and SOS at no 11 in my mind today, 3 big men in the middle.
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Not sure I'd agree. The one major difference between our half forward line which struggled during the league and the one that helped contribute to the scoreline against Galway was that we had an out and out forward at 11.
What can ye say about this. Hope Cillian makes a speedy recovery. The right thing will be done of course - like it was for Andy last year. Andy was n't patched up to play in semi and final.
Class player and if he is gone for the championship it leaves us as mortally wounded as Andy s injury did last year.
Like McBrearty last Sunday v Tyrone I think COC had gone to a different altitude v Galway. I remember having rows on here with lads that wanted him just kept close to goal as a finisher. Galway game showed his radar for reading a game and linking it all up and also allowed Dillon to use his experience to screw a team inside. O Connor might not be a Greg Blaney type 11 but he was bringing his own game and ours to another level. Probably ideal type of player to have around there now with the trad. shape gone. Tecnically good players like McLoughlin, O Connor, Dillon, Moran are invaluable.
It's a new low for Mayo and Roscommon football to be over-shadowed by Sligo, Leitrim and London. The forgotten semi-final.
Mayo County board getting their ticketing arrangements in nice and early.
'With the upcoming Connacht Senior Football Championship Semi-Final, Mayo - V's - Roscommon due to take place on Sunday 16th June in Elverys MacHale Park, Castlebar, the following ticketing details will apply:
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Season Ticket holders will be able to collect their tickets from the office of Elverys MacHale Park during the following times:
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Mayo play Cavan in a challenge match on Monday in Ballina. Will be interesting to see who'll wear 11.
Are Roscommon out this weekend, does anyone know?
Quote from: Bod Mor on May 31, 2013, 12:56:14 PM
Mayo play Cavan in a challenge match on Monday in Ballina. Will be interesting to see who'll wear 11.
Are Roscommon out this weekend, does anyone know?
Heard murmurs about Cork a while back but at first people thought it was last weekend which was obviously wrong given they were playing Limerick on Saturday. Who knows. If we find the grounds I'll be sure to get you the result.
Tell them nothin Syfín.
We are now about to go into high alert mode or code red or whatever is the latest Yankee daftnes for a state of hightened tension.
Th'oul tar will be bilin up from Sunday, the straw hats will be pulled out of the presses, the startin handles will be got ready, the bicycle clipeens shined up and all thoughts will turn to how can we avoid being Galwayed by the rhus.
Better get an oul up to date road map for the Qualifiers methinks. :-\
The talk on the Ballina grapevine is that Evan Regan is fit and will start against Cavan in the challenge match. If he's fully recovered he'd be a good option for free taking duty.
Quote from: Rossfan on May 31, 2013, 04:13:29 PM
Tell them nothin Syfín.
We are now about to go into high alert mode or code red or whatever is the latest Yankee daftnes for a state of hightened tension.
Th'oul tar will be bilin up from Sunday, the straw hats will be pulled out of the presses, the startin handles will be got ready, the bicycle clipeens shined up and all thoughts will turn to how can we avoid being Galwayed by the rhus.
Better get an oul up to date road map for the Qualifiers methinks. :-\
All right horse, let's switch de fokiss.
I heard (read, whatever) that CO'C isn't going to have surgery even though he'll need it at the end of the season and that he'll be back in sixx weeks, in time for Mayo's expected assault on Jones' Road.
We'll see if it's right but I think that is the very worst thing he could do. If this was the first occurrence you could almost understand but it's the second time in a little over seven months his shoulder has broken down. There's obviously something seriously wrong with it and trying to play on could end up creating a Michael Meehan situation of a chronic injury that shadows his entire playing career, nevermind the effects it could have on his life in general. A shoulder injury is one of the nastiest things you can get and it can have a real impact on your quality of life.
I suppose he's thinking Mayo have a shot at an AI this year and he wants the chance to be involved but it's verging close to madness to try and get away with this one. Far better if he's shut down for the year and gets surgery and is able to get his shoulder fully healthy before stepping on a pitch.
No opposition player is going to be sentimental about his plight and rightly so. If you put yourself in the firing line you need to be damn sure you're fit.
I'd have faith that the likes of the mayo management team, medical team, mayo general hospital doctors and the o'connor family have considered those things syferus.
Quote from: Tubberman on June 01, 2013, 08:21:55 AM
I'd have faith that the likes of the mayo management team, medical team, mayo general hospital doctors and the o'connor family have considered those things syferus.
I think it rarely works that smoothly. Players in every sport take the riskier option if they know there's a chance they'll play. The fact Mayo are challenging for an All-Ireland has to have factored in the decision if he really has opted to delay surgery that could be done now. There is a real risk attached to playing on either way or else there would be no need for the surgery in the first place.
Quote from: Syferus on June 01, 2013, 01:48:38 PM
Quote from: Tubberman on June 01, 2013, 08:21:55 AM
I'd have faith that the likes of the mayo management team, medical team, mayo general hospital doctors and the o'connor family have considered those things syferus.
I think it rarely works that smoothly. Players in every sport take the riskier option if they know there's a chance they'll play. The fact Mayo are challenging for an All-Ireland has to have factored in the decision if he really has opted to delay surgery that could be done now. There is a real risk attached to playing on either way or else there would be no need for the surgery in the first place.
I find it strange that you question the judgement
of the top upper limb orthopedic surgeon in Ireland.
By the way whereever you got your idea that he will be
back in six weeks is laughable(and I dont care what 'reliable'
sources you may claim you were talking to).
Quote from: sans pessimism on June 01, 2013, 05:49:49 PM
Quote from: Syferus on June 01, 2013, 01:48:38 PM
Quote from: Tubberman on June 01, 2013, 08:21:55 AM
I'd have faith that the likes of the mayo management team, medical team, mayo general hospital doctors and the o'connor family have considered those things syferus.
I think it rarely works that smoothly. Players in every sport take the riskier option if they know there's a chance they'll play. The fact Mayo are challenging for an All-Ireland has to have factored in the decision if he really has opted to delay surgery that could be done now. There is a real risk attached to playing on either way or else there would be no need for the surgery in the first place.
I find it strange that you question the judgement
of the top upper limb orthopedic surgeon in Ireland.
By the way whereever you got your idea that he will be
back in six weeks is laughable(and I dont care what 'reliable'
sources you may claim you were talking to).
Do you have a realistic timeline for his potential return or will it be week to week (month to month).
Month to month
Quote from: sans pessimism on June 01, 2013, 05:49:49 PM
Quote from: Syferus on June 01, 2013, 01:48:38 PM
Quote from: Tubberman on June 01, 2013, 08:21:55 AM
I'd have faith that the likes of the mayo management team, medical team, mayo general hospital doctors and the o'connor family have considered those things syferus.
I think it rarely works that smoothly. Players in every sport take the riskier option if they know there's a chance they'll play. The fact Mayo are challenging for an All-Ireland has to have factored in the decision if he really has opted to delay surgery that could be done now. There is a real risk attached to playing on either way or else there would be no need for the surgery in the first place.
I find it strange that you question the judgement
of the top upper limb orthopedic surgeon in Ireland.
By the way whereever you got your idea that he will be
back in six weeks is laughable(and I dont care what 'reliable'
sources you may claim you were talking to).
I genuinely don't think you even read what people say - skimming might be a better word for what you've just done - because every single thing you questioned in your usual sneering fashion was answered before you even typed a word.
Hi there all. First time posting here.
In relation to CoC , isn't amazing how many different time frames for his recovery, you can hear in a couple of days. I mean who is telling the truth , the man in the local pub, the poster on hoganstand, the poster on the mayo gaa blog, mid west?
I do try to figure out why people would tend to lie on such matters as obviously some are telling blatant lies.And then you have these concerned roscommon men, about him rushing back, i dont get that either , as if you give a shit and these people that are under the illusion that Cillian himself is going to take the decision without top advice, what is that all about.
Onto the game itself, i don't see much of a test coming from the stealers , they are bit wet round the lugs for us high flying seasoned first divisioners.
If Mayo win the provincial championship , as a matter of interest will it be the first time in history where we stand above Galway in the provincial roll of honour?
It's absolutely matterless to us whether CO'C is rushed back or not because he's out for the game in two weeks time regardless.
It's an incredibly cynical and blinkered approach to take to assume that just because a lad plays for a local rival that you don't 'give a shit' about his welfare. Colm O'Neill got well-wishes from all corners of the island after his knee gave in again and everyone on the Roscommon side of Ballagh was willing Andy on the last nine months. We didn't give one care if it meant he'd be lining up against us this summer, just that a lad that gives everything to his county would be able to play football again.
Some things are more important than provincal rivalries, bud.
Well maybe so to an extent , i still don't see why outsiders would be arguing with passion about his comeback date.
Rival?Roscommon are not really rivals anymore, it reminds a bit of Man United and Leeds rivalry , one side has stretched so far ahead, the rivalry is just a distant memory.
Larryin89. We were ahead of Galway in the 50s. They came and overtook us in the 60s as far as I know.
Quote from: Farrandeelin on June 02, 2013, 08:16:39 AM
Larryin89. We were ahead of Galway in the 50s. They came and overtook us in the 60s as far as I know.
You are right; Mayo had won a lot more than Galway right up to the mid-50s.
I think the tally was Mayo 26 or 27 and the heron chokers had only 15.
Even at that, one of the 15 was awarded to the them bustards when Mayo wuz robbed on a mere technicality.
(Can't remember what it was but we were in the right anyhow.)
The mid-50s saw the beginning of the Stockwell – Purcell era and Galway soon began to make inroads on our lead.
From '56 to '80 Galway won 15 and Mayo only two.
From then til now, the score has been much closer, Mayo have 14 I think and Galway have 11.
Not 100% sure about my figures but I know I'm not far out in my reckoning. (It's Sunday morning and I haven't had my first coffee yet so I still haven't sorted out my arse from my elbow. I'll sharpen up a bit anon.)
Quote from: Lar Naparka on June 02, 2013, 09:58:07 AM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on June 02, 2013, 08:16:39 AM
Larryin89. We were ahead of Galway in the 50s. They came and overtook us in the 60s as far as I know.
You are right; Mayo had won a lot more than Galway right up to the mid-50s.
I think the tally was Mayo 26 or 27 and the heron chokers had only 15.
Even at that, one of the 15 was awarded to the them bustards when Mayo wuz robbed on a mere technicality.
(Can't remember what it was but we were in the right anyhow.)
The mid-50s saw the beginning of the Stockwell – Purcell era and Galway soon began to make inroads on our lead.
From '56 to '80 Galway won 15 and Mayo only two.
From then til now, the score has been much closer, Mayo have 14 I think and Galway have 11.
Not 100% sure about my figures but I know I'm not far out in my reckoning. (It's Sunday morning and I haven't had my first coffee yet so I still haven't sorted out my arse from my elbow. I'll sharpen up a bit anon.)
People talk about the bad modern days with Mayo football. I throw them that stat and they just gasp that we could only win 2 Connachts in 25 years and none in the 70's!
Quote from: Lar Naparka on June 02, 2013, 09:58:07 AM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on June 02, 2013, 08:16:39 AM
Larryin89. We were ahead of Galway in the 50s. They came and overtook us in the 60s as far as I know.
You are right; Mayo had won a lot more than Galway right up to the mid-50s.
I think the tally was Mayo 26 or 27 and the heron chokers had only 15.
Even at that, one of the 15 was awarded to the them bustards when Mayo wuz robbed on a mere technicality.
(Can't remember what it was but we were in the right anyhow.)
The mid-50s saw the beginning of the Stockwell – Purcell era and Galway soon began to make inroads on our lead.
From '56 to '80 Galway won 15 and Mayo only two.
From then til now, the score has been much closer, Mayo have 14 I think and Galway have 11.
Not 100% sure about my figures but I know I'm not far out in my reckoning. (It's Sunday morning and I haven't had my first coffee yet so I still haven't sorted out my arse from my elbow. I'll sharpen up a bit anon.)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1925_All-Ireland_Senior_Football_Championship (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1925_All-Ireland_Senior_Football_Championship)
Mayo won the semi and the other semi finalists were disqualified.
Mayo were declared Champions.
Galway hadn't played in the Connacht Championship and agreed to play a
Connacht Final afterwards. Mayo understood, and had assurances from Galway, Connacht and Dublin, that it was of no consequence as the Championship was over and didn't even send a full team. Galway won and little was thought of it until Croke Park (or wherever) announced sometime later that as a result of that match Galway were the All-Ireland Champions.
And so it began.
Quote from: larryin89 on June 02, 2013, 01:33:44 AM
Hi there all. First time posting here.
In relation to CoC , isn't amazing how many different time frames for his recovery, you can hear in a couple of days. I mean who is telling the truth , the man in the local pub, the poster on hoganstand, the poster on the mayo gaa blog, mid west?
I do try to figure out why people would tend to lie on such matters as obviously some are telling blatant lies.And then you have these concerned roscommon men, about him rushing back, i dont get that either , as if you give a shit and these people that are under the illusion that Cillian himself is going to take the decision without top advice, what is that all about.
Onto the game itself, i don't see much of a test coming from the stealers , they are bit wet round the lugs for us high flying seasoned first divisioners.
If Mayo win the provincial championship , as a matter of interest will it be the first time in history where we stand above Galway in the provincial roll of honour?
don't you know Larry that this keyboard addict
is an expert on everything and his advice supercedes ANY other advice
Re the 70s and not winning a connacht title. I was only born in the latter part of said decade, so i dont know why this was the case but i am always interested in hearing why.
I read in the western a couple of weeks ago an article that was looking back on the Belmullet team that won the intermediate championship, it indicted in this article that there was a bias in the county set up in that they ignored north Mayo club players for selection. Is there truth in that. I realise this is off topic but sure its two weeks away for this game anyways.
Win the league in 1970,the u21 AI in 67 and 74 and a minor in 66/71 qnd 78.
Connacht minors winners in 66, '71, '73, '74, '77, '78, '79,.
Connacht u21 winners in,1967, '68, '70, '71, '73, '74, '75, '76.
I find it mind boggling to think we never managed a senior provincial in this period.
Quote from: larryin89 on June 02, 2013, 10:37:31 AM
Re the 70s and not winning a connacht title. I was only born in the latter part of said decade, so i dont know why this was the case but i am always interested in hearing why.
I read in the western a couple of weeks ago an article that was looking back on the Belmullet team that won the intermediate championship, it indicted in this article that there was a bias in the county set up in that they ignored north Mayo club players for selection. Is there truth in that. I realise this is off topic but sure its two weeks away for this game anyways.
Win the league in 1970,the u21 AI in 67 and 74 and a minor in 66/71 qnd 78.
Connacht minors winners in 66, '71, '73, '74, '77, '78, '79,.
Connacht u21 winners in,1967, '68, '70, '71, '73, '74, '75, '76.
I find it mind boggling to think we never managed a senior provincial in this period.
Hasn't it been the same way since!!
Quote from: muppet on June 02, 2013, 10:17:33 AM
Quote from: Lar Naparka on June 02, 2013, 09:58:07 AM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on June 02, 2013, 08:16:39 AM
Larryin89. We were ahead of Galway in the 50s. They came and overtook us in the 60s as far as I know.
You are right; Mayo had won a lot more than Galway right up to the mid-50s.
I think the tally was Mayo 26 or 27 and the heron chokers had only 15.
Even at that, one of the 15 was awarded to the them bustards when Mayo wuz robbed on a mere technicality.
(Can't remember what it was but we were in the right anyhow.)
The mid-50s saw the beginning of the Stockwell – Purcell era and Galway soon began to make inroads on our lead.
From '56 to '80 Galway won 15 and Mayo only two.
From then til now, the score has been much closer, Mayo have 14 I think and Galway have 11.
Not 100% sure about my figures but I know I'm not far out in my reckoning. (It's Sunday morning and I haven't had my first coffee yet so I still haven't sorted out my arse from my elbow. I'll sharpen up a bit anon.)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1925_All-Ireland_Senior_Football_Championship (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1925_All-Ireland_Senior_Football_Championship)
Mayo won the semi and the other semi finalists were disqualified.
Mayo were declared Champions.
Galway hadn't played in the Connacht Championship and agreed to play a Connacht Final afterwards. Mayo understood, and had assurances from Galway, Connacht and Dublin, that it was of no consequence as the Championship was over and didn't even send a full team. Galway won and little was thought of it until Croke Park (or wherever) announced sometime later that as a result of that match Galway were the All-Ireland Champions.
And so it began.
Bastards. And the Donnellans got going then and that was the end of it.
Quote from: Never beat the deeler on June 02, 2013, 10:42:35 AM
Quote from: larryin89 on June 02, 2013, 10:37:31 AM
Re the 70s and not winning a connacht title. I was only born in the latter part of said decade, so i dont know why this was the case but i am always interested in hearing why.
I read in the western a couple of weeks ago an article that was looking back on the Belmullet team that won the intermediate championship, it indicted in this article that there was a bias in the county set up in that they ignored north Mayo club players for selection. Is there truth in that. I realise this is off topic but sure its two weeks away for this game anyways.
Win the league in 1970,the u21 AI in 67 and 74 and a minor in 66/71 qnd 78.
Connacht minors winners in 66, '71, '73, '74, '77, '78, '79,.
Connacht u21 winners in,1967, '68, '70, '71, '73, '74, '75, '76.
I find it mind boggling to think we never managed a senior provincial in this period.
Hasn't it been the same way since!!
Not really. Under Horan there as been a drop in the amount of North Mayo Players, but in the 90's and 00's Mayo teams were dominated with players from North Mayo. Personally, i don't look at the North, South, East, West thing. We are all from Mayo.
Quote from: Farrandeelin on June 02, 2013, 08:16:39 AM
Larryin89. We were ahead of Galway in the 50s. They came and overtook us in the 60s as far as I know.
In 1952 Mayo had 3 all Irelands and Galway had 3 all Irelands.
Since then Galway have won 6 and Mayo have yet to register.
Hopefully this Mayo team can get a new era going.
Quote from: Never beat the deeler on June 02, 2013, 10:42:35 AM
Quote from: larryin89 on June 02, 2013, 10:37:31 AM
Re the 70s and not winning a connacht title. I was only born in the latter part of said decade, so i dont know why this was the case but i am always interested in hearing why.
I read in the western a couple of weeks ago an article that was looking back on the Belmullet team that won the intermediate championship, it indicted in this article that there was a bias in the county set up in that they ignored north Mayo club players for selection. Is there truth in that. I realise this is off topic but sure its two weeks away for this game anyways.
Win the league in 1970,the u21 AI in 67 and 74 and a minor in 66/71 qnd 78.
Connacht minors winners in 66, '71, '73, '74, '77, '78, '79,.
Connacht u21 winners in,1967, '68, '70, '71, '73, '74, '75, '76.
I find it mind boggling to think we never managed a senior provincial in this period.
Hasn't it been the same way since!!
There is always a bias felt somewhere. Intermediate Champions probably isn't the best argument. Senior Champions or regular contenders at Senior maybe. Knockmore in the late 1990s for example.
Well in fairness to that article, it did say the champions of all three grades that year had no representation on county panel. I can't remember the clubs but all were from north Mayo.
Quote from: seafoid on June 02, 2013, 11:09:53 AM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on June 02, 2013, 08:16:39 AM
Larryin89. We were ahead of Galway in the 50s. They came and overtook us in the 60s as far as I know.
In 1952 Mayo had 3 all Irelands and Galway had 3 all Irelands.
Since then Galway have won 6 and Mayo have yet to register.
Hopefully this Mayo team can get a new era going.
True and if you add in both counties league count at the time (the league really mattered back then), Mayo were well ahead of Galway.
Sounds like some second half performance by Mayo today, i didn't make it myself but it sounds awesome, goals galore.
Anyone at it from in here?
Quote from: larryin89 on June 03, 2013, 03:15:19 PM
Sounds like some second half performance by Mayo today, i didn't make it myself but it sounds awesome, goals galore.
Anyone at it from in here?
Ya,just in the door.
Starting team.
O'Malley
Keane
McHale
Cunniffe
Burke
Boyle
Vaughan
AOS
Gibbons
Kevin Mc
Feeney
Carolan
Coen
Freeman
Andy
1-5 to 10 for Cavan at HT. Ended 5-12 to 0-16 for Mayo.
Cavan started a complete different team in the 2nd half. Cian Mackey was very dangerous for Cavan in the 1st half. Decent game. Coen must have ended up with 1-4 for Mayo, showed well. Burke and AOS were very good. Andy Moran running off the ball was class, ended up with 2 goals before being replaced by Evan Regan. Alan Murphy came on for Carolan and got 2 goals also, good finishes for close in.
Mayo v cavan in ballina mayo :
o malley ,
keane,mchale ,cunniffe ,
vaughan ,boyle ,burke,
a o shea ,gibbons ,
mcloughlin,feeney ,carolan ,
coen ,freeman ,Moran.
Full time Mayo 5-12 Cavan 0-16
Not at the game. Got info from a friend.
How did Gibbons play?
Where is Barry Moran up to in terms of return?
Quote from: larryin89 on June 03, 2013, 03:41:16 PM
How did Gibbons play?
Where is Barry Moran up to in terms of return?
Did ok, nothing major either way. Mayo porous a few times, Cavan had about four 1 on 1s...Barry,DOC and Geraghty did running drills for all of HT. Looked to be moving well
Thanks for the info Ballinaman.
Anyone know who was playing midfield for Cavan?
Quote from: larryin89 on June 03, 2013, 03:15:19 PM
Sounds like some second half performance by Mayo today, i didn't make it myself but it sounds awesome, goals galore.
Anyone at it from in here?
Far from awesome. Very misleading scoreline imo. Cavan better team for a lot of it and played 2 completely different 15s. They hit crossbar twice and O Malley made at least 1 top drawer save. We found it difficult to create point chances consistently. We got turned over repeatedly in the first half. If the first half was a reflection of our form then you d be getting a bit concerned.
But it was only a challenge so not to be taken seriously. The individual good bits (like Andy playing nearly an hour) more important than the overall.
Quote from: ballinaman on June 03, 2013, 03:21:10 PM
Quote from: larryin89 on June 03, 2013, 03:15:19 PM
Sounds like some second half performance by Mayo today, i didn't make it myself but it sounds awesome, goals galore.
Anyone at it from in here?
Ya,just in the door.
Starting team.
O'Malley
Keane
McHale
Cunniffe
Burke
Boyle
Vaughan
AOS
Gibbons
Kevin Mc
Feeney
Carolan
Coen
Freeman
Andy
1-5 to 10 for Cavan at HT. Ended 5-12 to 0-16 for Mayo.
Cavan started a complete different team in the 2nd half. Cian Mackey was very dangerous for Cavan in the 1st half. Decent game. Coen must have ended up with 1-4 for Mayo, showed well. Burke and AOS were very good. Andy Moran running off the ball was class, ended up with 2 goals before being replaced by Evan Regan. Alan Murphy came on for Carolan and got 2 goals also, good finishes for close in.
At least seven championship starters rested Clarke,G Cafferkey,K Higgins,S O'Shea,Keegan,Varley and Dillon shows the strength of panel.
We had a challenge match too but I'm under orders from the Ros Horse not to divulge details to the enemy. 'Twas a lovely day, mind.
Quote from: Syferus on June 03, 2013, 04:24:09 PM
We had a challenge match too but I'm under orders from the Ros Horse not to divulge details to the enemy. 'Twas a lovely day, mind.
Ah, go on tell us. Sure we are all friends here. We promise not to tell anybody!
Great to see a intercounty match in Ballina. Pitch looks in great condition. Like moysider said the scoreline flatters mayo with the fact that cavan had a lot of goal opportunities and at least two stonewall penalties waved on. Nice way to pass a bank holiday monday
Quote from: larryin89 on June 03, 2013, 03:50:27 PM
Thanks for the info Ballinaman.
+1 thanks to everybody for reports
Quote from: Syferus on June 03, 2013, 04:24:09 PM
We had a challenge match too but I'm under orders from the Ros Horse not to divulge details to the enemy. 'Twas a lovely day, mind.
Beat Brigids by seven points?
Quote from: larryin89 on June 03, 2013, 05:27:42 PM
Quote from: Syferus on June 03, 2013, 04:24:09 PM
We had a challenge match too but I'm under orders from the Ros Horse not to divulge details to the enemy. 'Twas a lovely day, mind.
Beat Brigids by seven points?
Nope 8)
Quote from: Syferus on June 03, 2013, 05:38:37 PM
Quote from: larryin89 on June 03, 2013, 05:27:42 PM
Quote from: Syferus on June 03, 2013, 04:24:09 PM
We had a challenge match too but I'm under orders from the Ros Horse not to divulge details to the enemy. 'Twas a lovely day, mind.
Beat Brigids by seven points?
Nope 8)
It must of been London, hence your refusal to reveal the opposition.
Quote from: larryin89 on June 03, 2013, 05:50:49 PM
Quote from: Syferus on June 03, 2013, 05:38:37 PM
Quote from: larryin89 on June 03, 2013, 05:27:42 PM
Quote from: Syferus on June 03, 2013, 04:24:09 PM
We had a challenge match too but I'm under orders from the Ros Horse not to divulge details to the enemy. 'Twas a lovely day, mind.
Beat Brigids by seven points?
Nope 8)
It must of been London, hence your refusal to reveal the opposition.
Eight points :-X
Couldn't get in. Was cutting a field of grass instead. Thanks to all for the info.
Quote from: Syferus on June 03, 2013, 04:24:09 PM
We had a challenge match too but I'm under orders from the Ros Horse not to divulge details to the enemy. 'Twas a lovely day, mind.
By all accounts the Brids exposed a lot of our shortcomings :-\
Quote from: Rossfan on June 03, 2013, 09:09:12 PM
Quote from: Syferus on June 03, 2013, 04:24:09 PM
We had a challenge match too but I'm under orders from the Ros Horse not to divulge details to the enemy. 'Twas a lovely day, mind.
By all accounts the Brids exposed a lot of our shortcomings :-\
'Twas good to see Senan finding the target and Mango was all-action in the middle. At least after this challenge match we can choose the lads we like from the other team ;)
Quote from: Syferus on June 03, 2013, 09:23:24 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on June 03, 2013, 09:09:12 PM
Quote from: Syferus on June 03, 2013, 04:24:09 PM
We had a challenge match too but I'm under orders from the Ros Horse not to divulge details to the enemy. 'Twas a lovely day, mind.
By all accounts the Brids exposed a lot of our shortcomings :-\
'Twas good to see Senan finding the target and Mango was all-action in the middle. At least after this challenge match we can choose the lads we like from the other team ;)
Senan Kilbride will be the one man we have to keep quiet, i was very impressed with him in club final, so much so i thought horan might try and get him to tog for Mayo under the father rule.
But seriously we have been suspect at times under the high ball into our fb line, i expect the ross to try this all day. I'm hoping S. Mchale starts instead of Keane tbh.
Quote from: larryin89 on June 03, 2013, 09:30:57 PM
Quote from: Syferus on June 03, 2013, 09:23:24 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on June 03, 2013, 09:09:12 PM
Quote from: Syferus on June 03, 2013, 04:24:09 PM
We had a challenge match too but I'm under orders from the Ros Horse not to divulge details to the enemy. 'Twas a lovely day, mind.
By all accounts the Brids exposed a lot of our shortcomings :-\
'Twas good to see Senan finding the target and Mango was all-action in the middle. At least after this challenge match we can choose the lads we like from the other team ;)
Senan Kilbride will be the one man we have to keep quiet, i was very impressed with him in club final, so much so i thought horan might try and get him to tog for Mayo under the father rule.
But seriously we have been suspect at times under the high ball into our fb line, i expect the ross to try this all day. I'm hoping S. Mchale starts instead of Keane tbh.
I'd say the Mayo full back line will be K Higgins, G Cafferkey,T Cunniffe. Do Roscommon have a player that can supply that right ball into Kilbride like Frankie Dolan does for St Brigids?
Quote from: Blowitupref on June 03, 2013, 09:50:18 PM
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Quote from: Syferus on June 03, 2013, 09:23:24 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on June 03, 2013, 09:09:12 PM
Quote from: Syferus on June 03, 2013, 04:24:09 PM
We had a challenge match too but I'm under orders from the Ros Horse not to divulge details to the enemy. 'Twas a lovely day, mind.
By all accounts the Brids exposed a lot of our shortcomings :-\
'Twas good to see Senan finding the target and Mango was all-action in the middle. At least after this challenge match we can choose the lads we like from the other team ;)
Senan Kilbride will be the one man we have to keep quiet, i was very impressed with him in club final, so much so i thought horan might try and get him to tog for Mayo under the father rule.
But seriously we have been suspect at times under the high ball into our fb line, i expect the ross to try this all day. I'm hoping S. Mchale starts instead of Keane tbh.
I'd say the Mayo full back line will be K Higgins, G Cafferkey,T Cunniffe. Do Roscommon have a player that can supply that right ball into Kilbride like Frankie Dolan does for St Brigids?
Frankie actually played far closer to goal than before this year, there wasn't much of Frankie playmaking for Senan even if he obviously can do it.
We have playmakers in the two Dalys at HB but they're only talented tykes at the moment. Cregger is the HF that's going to burst a lung trying to make things happen. The other two names in that line will be probably the most interesting thing on our starting line-up.
Quote from: From the Bunker on June 03, 2013, 03:21:51 PM
Mayo v cavan in ballina mayo :
o malley ,
keane,mchale ,cunniffe ,
vaughan ,boyle ,burke,
a o shea ,gibbons ,
mcloughlin,feeney ,carolan ,
coen ,freeman ,Moran.
Full time Mayo 5-12 Cavan 0-16
Not at the game. Got info from a friend.
The subs were;
Michael Walsh (impressed imo) for Cunniffe.
Murphy for Carolan
Rogers for Boyle ( Boyle lost his balance on a run and fell into tackle and was lucky not to get a more serious belt)
Regan for Moran
Harrison ( looked very comfortable) for Vaughan.
Hard to know what changes may be made for Ros game except for Cillian O Connor not figuring. Today we shanked 2 easy frees wide btw.
Cafferkey, Higgins and 1 from Keane, McHale and Cunniffe depending who suits whats needed best. All 3 had their hands full today which is a good thing. It should bring them on a bit. They had to manage 1 on 1 and there was a lot of decent ball going in. I expect Caff to pick up Kilbride.
Keegan, Boyle and Burke or Boyle Keegan Burke would be the best balanced hb line but Vaughan wont be dropped because in fairness he makes runs and stuff that can really damage the opposition.
No 11 is the question with Cillian out. I d prefer to see Dillon play inside where Andy will start with Varley.
Gibbons did ok today. Maybe play the 2 O Sés and Gibbons or a fit Barry Mór. Temptation to play McLoughlin as an 11 and see can he be as effective.
I see Freeney was selected at CHF vs Cavan. I'd been expecting for some time that he'd be tried out there. James seems to be experimenting with a number of combinations up front and of late Richie has been used as a forward when he comes in.
I think he's quite good as a forager and finisher and he appears to have good all round vision and can sum up his options better than most. He may not be the one to cover Cillian's absence but my guess is that he's in with a good shout.
Alan Freeman seems to be the preferred option at full forward. He's certainly got plenty of chances to prove that he can fit into the general game plan.
IMO, he had fairly decent game against Galway and I feel he will start at FF against Roscommon with Andy playing in the corner.
Lar I think he sees Richie as both an impact sub in the half-forward line and a solid sub for the half backs.
I don't see him starting him in the half forwards but he is certainly intelligent and useful enough to do damage on tiring half backs in the second half. James may just be giving him game time as an orthodox forward as he never really played there for club or underage for Mayo.
I was told before by a member of the panel that Richie is the most accurate foot passer on the team in training always. Like him myself, always puts his shoulder to the wheel and is a great team player, off the bench or from the start, never complains and does his best.
Quote from: Lar Naparka on June 04, 2013, 10:16:46 AM
I see Freeney was selected at CHF vs Cavan. I'd been expecting for some time that he'd be tried out there. James seems to be experimenting with a number of combinations up front and of late Richie has been used as a forward when he comes in.
I think he's quite good as a forager and finisher and he appears to have good all round vision and can sum up his options better than most. He may not be the one to cover Cillian's absence but my guess is that he's in with a good shout.
Alan Freeman seems to be the preferred option at full forward. He's certainly got plenty of chances to prove that he can fit into the general game plan.
IMO, he had fairly decent game against Galway and I feel he will start at FF against Roscommon with Andy playing in the corner.
I wouldn t read too much into yesterday s selection to be honest. Likes of Dillon more likely to return to the half forward line.
Quote from: Westside on June 03, 2013, 03:52:24 PM
Anyone know who was playing midfield for Cavan?
There was no programme and I m not very familiar with Cavan players - but in fairness it looks like Cavan have loads to be going on with, from what I saw the last day.
Apparently, the boys in the press were given Cavan team sheets while the rest of us were subjected to a rapid-fire pa. The best I could do was count the no. of Reillys on the second team!
Anyway, hope this is a bit of help.
Cavan (first half)
A O'Mara; J McLoughlin, R Dunne (0-1), D Tighe (0-1); O Minagh, A Clarke, F Flannagan; D McKernan (0-1), M Leddy; C Makey, J Brady, M Reilly (0-2); R Flanagan, K Tierney (0-2), M Dunne (0-2).
Cavan (second half)
J Reilly; J Hayes, C Brady, D Markey; P Reilly, K Meehan, M Brady; D Reilly, J McCutchion; N Murney, N McDermott (0-3), C Conroy; D McVitty (0-1), E Keating (0-2), B Reilly (0-1).
Subs used: D Sheridan, M McKeever, D Givney.
Best of look to Cavan going on. Liked the way they went about their stuff and the way management used their panel. Obviously going about things the right way.
Quote from: moysider on June 05, 2013, 12:57:55 AM
Quote from: Westside on June 03, 2013, 03:52:24 PM
Anyone know who was playing midfield for Cavan?
There was no programme and I m not very familiar with Cavan players - but in fairness it looks like Cavan have loads to be going on with, from what I saw the last day.
Apparently, the boys in the press were given Cavan team sheets while the rest of us were subjected to a rapid-fire pa. The best I could do was count the no. of Reillys on the second team!
Anyway, hope this is a bit of help.
Cavan (first half)
A O'Mara; J McLoughlin, R Dunne (0-1), D Tighe (0-1); O Minagh, A Clarke, F Flannagan; D McKernan (0-1), M Leddy; C Makey, J Brady, M Reilly (0-2); R Flanagan, K Tierney (0-2), M Dunne (0-2).
Cavan (second half)
J Reilly; J Hayes, C Brady, D Markey; P Reilly, K Meehan, M Brady; D Reilly, J McCutchion; N Murney, N McDermott (0-3), C Conroy; D McVitty (0-1), E Keating (0-2), B Reilly (0-1).
Subs used: D Sheridan, M McKeever, D Givney.
Best of look to Cavan going on. Liked the way they went about their stuff and the way management used their panel. Obviously going about things the right way.
Pitch openings are much better organised in Ros. Mike Denver was even on hand on Friday night in Croan's to sing a few mighty ballads and, sure, that's not the half of it. Even the first game on Sunday (a club match) had full extended panel listings in the luxurious A4-sized program.
Omious signs for Stephenites, nearly relegated and now they can't even afford a few photo-copies :-X
Quote from: ballinaman on June 04, 2013, 11:50:11 AM
I was told before by a member of the panel that Richie is the most accurate foot passer on the team in training always. Like him myself, always puts his shoulder to the wheel and is a great team player, off the bench or from the start, never complains and does his best.
I missed the word in bold first time I read this, and was thinkin "Ya cocky wee bollox"!!!
Quote from: Never beat the deeler on June 05, 2013, 07:47:40 AM
Quote from: ballinaman on June 04, 2013, 11:50:11 AM
I was told before by a member of the panel that Richie is the most accurate foot passer on the team in training always. Like him myself, always puts his shoulder to the wheel and is a great team player, off the bench or from the start, never complains and does his best.
I missed the word in bold first time I read this, and was thinkin "Ya cocky wee bollox"!!!
;D
Quote from: muppet on June 04, 2013, 11:03:39 AM
Lar I think he sees Richie as both an impact sub in the half-forward line and a solid sub for the half backs.
I don't see him starting him in the half forwards but he is certainly intelligent and useful enough to do damage on tiring half backs in the second half. James may just be giving him game time as an orthodox forward as he never really played there for club or underage for Mayo.
As McStay might put it, Richie has added an extra dimension to his game in recent times. As a half back, I felt he was a good stand in if the likes of, say, Boyle or Barrett got injured or tired but that would be the height of it; a good journeyman but certainly no playmaker.
But when he began to play up front, I was struck by his ability to look around and consider his options before passing along to a better placed colleague. I'm not surprised that he is regarded as the best foot passer on the panel.
Maybe he's not a Ciaran Mac but he is the best distributor we've had since. He could develop into a top class CF if given the chance to settle in there.
With Cillian out of the picture, I don't see a natural replacement amongst the front runners for the no. 11 spot.
Put Alan and Kevin on either side of Richie and the sheepophiles won't know what hit them! :D
So a question for ye rhubarbs - what will ye're winning margin be? :-\
I think we'll be doing well if we keep it in single figures( points not goals :().
I would consider it a good day's work and very promising if we get within 6.
Quote from: Rossfan on June 05, 2013, 12:16:37 PM
So a question for ye rhubarbs - what will ye're winning margin be? :-\
I think we'll be doing well if we keep it in single figures( points not goals :().
I would consider it a good day's work and very promising if we get within 6.
I d say that you re in a better position to make predictions yourself. You d have seen a lot more of Mayo than we would of Ros.
It's high time we bate Mayo in Castlebar. It will be going on thirty years and that should be a source of great shame for every proud Roscommon man and woman who has ever worn the famous primrose and blue. Up until 1991 when Derekeen scored that last second free to equalise from 60 yards against a gaelforce wind and big McHale with his hands up trying to swat it down and I was standing on the embankment so it's no exaggeration, Mayo could not beat us in Castlebar even if you gave them a big stick. Even in 89. Let's not go there beaten before the ball is even thrown in like we did for the All-Ireland qtr final in 2001 because that will only end one way. And remember the last time we won in Castlebar in 1986, sure Mayo had the All-Ireland won that year after their heroics against Dublin the year before. Tony Mac had other ideas. One good man who believes can change fate and history too.
Quote from: weareros on June 05, 2013, 01:55:23 PM
It's high time we bate Mayo in Castlebar. It will be going on thirty years and that should be a source of great shame for every proud Roscommon man and woman who has ever worn the famous primrose and blue. Up until 1991 when Derekeen scored that last second free to equalise from 60 yards against a gaelforce wind and big McHale with his hands up trying to swat it down and I was standing on the embankment so it's no exaggeration, Mayo could not beat us in Castlebar even if you gave them a big stick. Even in 89. Let's not go there beaten before the ball is even thrown in like we did for the All-Ireland qtr final in 2001 because that will only end one way. And remember the last time we won in Castlebar in 1986, sure Mayo had the All-Ireland won that year after their heroics against Dublin the year before. Tony Mac had other ideas. One good man who believes can change fate and history too.
Now we re talkin! That s more like the Roscommon I remember.
Quote from: weareros on June 05, 2013, 01:55:23 PM
It's high time we bate Mayo in Castlebar. It will be going on thirty years and that should be a source of great shame for every proud Roscommon man and woman who has ever worn the famous primrose and blue. Up until 1991 when Derekeen scored that last second free to equalise from 60 yards against a gaelforce wind and big McHale with his hands up trying to swat it down and I was standing on the embankment so it's no exaggeration, Mayo could not beat us in Castlebar even if you gave them a big stick. Even in 89. Let's not go there beaten before the ball is even thrown in like we did for the All-Ireland qtr final in 2001 because that will only end one way. And remember the last time we won in Castlebar in 1986, sure Mayo had the All-Ireland won that year after their heroics against Dublin the year before. Tony Mac had other ideas. One good man who believes can change fate and history too.
Yeeeeow. Up the field Ros!
Will the Mayo team start ripping toilet seats off hinges in Castlebar if they win or do they save that for special occasions like Connacht finals?
We need to win if only to save the jacks at the Hyde, they're in a bad enough state already without letting Mayo near them again.
Quote from: Syferus on June 05, 2013, 02:36:27 PM
Will the Mayo team start ripping toilet seats off hinges in Castlebar if they win or do they save that for special occasions like Connacht finals?
We need to win if only to save the jacks at the Hyde, they're in a bad enough state already without letting Mayo near them again.
aysus, what are ye on about now?
I never knew there were toilet seats in the
sheep pen Hyde to begin with.
I'll tell ye one thing: The Mayo lads won't go running about in the nip and wrecking some bloody hotel while they're at it. ;D
Quote from: ballinaman on June 05, 2013, 02:01:52 PM
Quote from: weareros on June 05, 2013, 01:55:23 PM
It's high time we bate Mayo in Castlebar. It will be going on thirty years and that should be a source of great shame for every proud Roscommon man and woman who has ever worn the famous primrose and blue. Up until 1991 when Derekeen scored that last second free to equalise from 60 yards against a gaelforce wind and big McHale with his hands up trying to swat it down and I was standing on the embankment so it's no exaggeration, Mayo could not beat us in Castlebar even if you gave them a big stick. Even in 89. Let's not go there beaten before the ball is even thrown in like we did for the All-Ireland qtr final in 2001 because that will only end one way. And remember the last time we won in Castlebar in 1986, sure Mayo had the All-Ireland won that year after their heroics against Dublin the year before. Tony Mac had other ideas. One good man who believes can change fate and history too.
Yeeeeow. Up the field Ros!
Yes and the further, the better!
Quote from: Lar Naparka on June 05, 2013, 02:55:14 PM
Quote from: Syferus on June 05, 2013, 02:36:27 PM
Will the Mayo team start ripping toilet seats off hinges in Castlebar if they win or do they save that for special occasions like Connacht finals?
We need to win if only to save the jacks at the Hyde, they're in a bad enough state already without letting Mayo near them again.
aysus, what are ye on about now?
I never knew there were toilet seats in the sheep pen Hyde to begin with.
I'll tell ye one thing: The Mayo lads won't go running about in the nip and wrecking some bloody hotel while they're at it. ;D
And that was when the Rossies were a decent team! Ever since they tried to act disciplined, they've been a disaster. Just not in their nature.
Time to revert to your natural state lads.
Quote from: weareros on June 05, 2013, 01:55:23 PM
It's high time we bate Mayo in Castlebar. It will be going on thirty years and that should be a source of great shame for every proud Roscommon man and woman who has ever worn the famous primrose and blue. Up until 1991 when Derekeen scored that last second free to equalise from 60 yards against a gaelforce wind and big McHale with his hands up trying to swat it down and I was standing on the embankment so it's no exaggeration, Mayo could not beat us in Castlebar even if you gave them a big stick. Even in 89. Let's not go there beaten before the ball is even thrown in like we did for the All-Ireland qtr final in 2001 because that will only end one way. And remember the last time we won in Castlebar in 1986, sure Mayo had the All-Ireland won that year after their heroics against Dublin the year before. Tony Mac had other ideas. One good man who believes can change fate and history too.
I don't remember. I was born in 1987!
Quote from: Farrandeelin on June 05, 2013, 04:18:26 PM
Quote from: weareros on June 05, 2013, 01:55:23 PM
It's high time we bate Mayo in Castlebar. It will be going on thirty years and that should be a source of great shame for every proud Roscommon man and woman who has ever worn the famous primrose and blue. Up until 1991 when Derekeen scored that last second free to equalise from 60 yards against a gaelforce wind and big McHale with his hands up trying to swat it down and I was standing on the embankment so it's no exaggeration, Mayo could not beat us in Castlebar even if you gave them a big stick. Even in 89. Let's not go there beaten before the ball is even thrown in like we did for the All-Ireland qtr final in 2001 because that will only end one way. And remember the last time we won in Castlebar in 1986, sure Mayo had the All-Ireland won that year after their heroics against Dublin the year before. Tony Mac had other ideas. One good man who believes can change fate and history too.
I don't remember. I was born in 1987!
Sure it's about time you see something new, eh?
Quote from: Lar Naparka on June 05, 2013, 02:55:14 PM
I'll tell ye one thing: The Mayo lads won't go running about in the nip and wrecking some bloody hotel while they're at it. ;D
Is that the best ya can do? Going back 11 years to a bit of high spirited buffoonery ?
At least no matter what happens on the football field we always know that when we wake up the next morning we'll still be God's chosen race and ye'll still be smelly goatherders from the snipe grass. :P
I nearly feel sorry for ye .....
Would love to boldly predict a turn up for the books here but I just feel the result is not in any doubt. Mayo to win. The only doubt is by how much.
I think the Rossies will be competitive. At least I hope they will because if they are they should be able to get a decent qualifier run obviously depending on who we draw.
2012 was a not a reflection on the Roscommon senior football panel's real ability. But it set them back significantly.
If we remove that season from the equation there is a panel there of successful underage players who have a bit of physique to add to their football ability. In 2011 they competed effectively with Mayo in the Connaught Final and Tyrone afterwards in the qualifiers.
They've also the benefit of watching what Mayo did to an unprepared Galway side so they shouldnt be shocked or intimidated by that level of intensity. They've a fine coach in John Evans. They're roaring underdogs so no pressure to perform. They are on an upward curve.
All that being said this Mayo side are skillful, well conditioned, cynical, mentally strong and consistent. A modern top 4 side with AI ambitions. They'll expect the Rossies to tick all the boxes I've mentioned and won't be fazed in the least.
Mayo by 6 points.
Quote from: ross matt on June 05, 2013, 11:29:13 PM
Would love to boldly predict a turn up for the books here but I just feel the result is not in any doubt. Mayo to win. The only doubt is by how much.
I think the Rossies will be competitive. At least I hope they will because if they are they should be able to get a decent qualifier run obviously depending on who we draw.
2012 was a not a reflection on the Roscommon senior football panel's real ability. But it set them back significantly.
If we remove that season from the equation there is a panel there of successful underage players who have a bit of physique to add to their football ability. In 2011 they competed effectively with Mayo in the Connaught Final and Tyrone afterwards in the qualifiers.
They've also the benefit of watching what Mayo did to an unprepared Galway side so they shouldnt be shocked or intimidated by that level of intensity. They've a fine coach in John Evans. They're roaring underdogs so no pressure to perform. They are on an upward curve.
All that being said this Mayo side are skillful, well conditioned, cynical, mentally strong and consistent. A modern top 4 side with AI ambitions. They'll expect the Rossies to tick all the boxes I've mentioned and won't be fazed in the least.
Mayo by 6 points.
Jaysus Matt, there s a lot of stuff there just doesn t add up.
2012 not a reflection on Ros ability but a performance in 2011 v Mayo during rain and gale might be?
In my experience a good performance in the provincial championship is no indicator of what happens next - regardless of who is drawn.
Galway unprepared? Where did that come from. Respected pundits went with Galway as usual and even the Galway manager had time to spare to boost his business on the back of the fixture. There is no way such a respected manager as Mulholland would not have his team prepared. What could he have missed out on. Mayo have been on the telly a lot, even if you re tied up in the bookies on match days. Am I being cynical - yeah just a little bit.
Which bring me to cynical. People have to be havin a laugh. Maybe people dont know the difference between cynical and desperate. Mayo of course are no where near cynical enough to really cut it at the summit. We re still puppies compared to the pros. We coughed up a big lead v Dublin last year because we were not cynical enough. What was pinged as cynicism later was desperation as a result of injuries and loss of shape, and as important, managements failure to get players to get behind the ball and finish out what should have been a last 20 min. coast. If Doc got that easy goal chance it would have put us 12 ?? points up. But Mayo should not have to keep scoring to win games they re well ahead in.
Mayo are plenty cynical, and it's a good thing for them, but they're not cute enough about it yet. It takes some serious work on the dark arts to be able to compete with the Jimmys and the Mickeys of the world. Jamesy is still only an apprentice Ming the Merciless. He'll get ye there.
Hang on, I just had a great idea of who'd be Roscommon's own Jimmy..
Quote from: moysider on June 06, 2013, 12:07:18 AM
Quote from: ross matt on June 05, 2013, 11:29:13 PM
Would love to boldly predict a turn up for the books here but I just feel the result is not in any doubt. Mayo to win. The only doubt is by how much.
I think the Rossies will be competitive. At least I hope they will because if they are they should be able to get a decent qualifier run obviously depending on who we draw.
2012 was a not a reflection on the Roscommon senior football panel's real ability. But it set them back significantly.
If we remove that season from the equation there is a panel there of successful underage players who have a bit of physique to add to their football ability. In 2011 they competed effectively with Mayo in the Connaught Final and Tyrone afterwards in the qualifiers.
They've also the benefit of watching what Mayo did to an unprepared Galway side so they shouldnt be shocked or intimidated by that level of intensity. They've a fine coach in John Evans. They're roaring underdogs so no pressure to perform. They are on an upward curve.
All that being said this Mayo side are skillful, well conditioned, cynical, mentally strong and consistent. A modern top 4 side with AI ambitions. They'll expect the Rossies to tick all the boxes I've mentioned and won't be fazed in the least.
Mayo by 6 points.
Jaysus Matt, there s a lot of stuff there just doesn t add up.
2012 not a reflection on Ros ability but a performance in 2011 v Mayo during rain and gale might be?
In my experience a good performance in the provincial championship is no indicator of what happens next - regardless of who is drawn.
Galway unprepared? Where did that come from. Respected pundits went with Galway as usual and even the Galway manager had time to spare to boost his business on the back of the fixture. There is no way such a respected manager as Mulholland would not have his team prepared. What could he have missed out on. Mayo have been on the telly a lot, even if you re tied up in the bookies on match days. Am I being cynical - yeah just a little bit.
Which bring me to cynical. People have to be havin a laugh. Maybe people dont know the difference between cynical and desperate. Mayo of course are no where near cynical enough to really cut it at the summit. We re still puppies compared to the pros. We coughed up a big lead v Dublin last year because we were not cynical enough. What was pinged as cynicism later was desperation as a result of injuries and loss of shape, and as important, managements failure to get players to get behind the ball and finish out what should have been a last 20 min. coast. If Doc got that easy goal chance it would have put us 12 ?? points up. But Mayo should not have to keep scoring to win games they re well ahead in.
Hi Moysider. Not trying to be confusing our indeed cute. By way of cynical I mean mean... tough... hard ruthless.... in other words professional so a compliment. Re Galway being unprepared.... well I agree with you that they should'nt have been but that's how they looked to me. Panicky when being hit hard in their own defense as they tried to work the ball out.... weak and tame under the primary and on the breaking ball in midfield.... not prepared to tackle/slow the opposition down up front.
Roscommon under Newton last year under performed. The previous year was more an accurate reflection of their ability IMO.
Not for a moment suggesting they will beat Mayo but a competitive performance will boost confidence for the the qualifiers and they should be punching at a higher level in senior football.
Quote from: ross matt on June 06, 2013, 12:56:03 AM
[Hi Moysider. Not trying to be confusing our indeed cute. By way of cynical I mean mean... tough... hard ruthless.... in other words professional so a compliment. In other words be like Kerry have been for 80 or 90 years.
Roscommon under Newton last year under performed. We all know poor Des was way out of date in his methods - it was like a year out for the panel in reality..
Not for a moment suggesting they will beat Mayo but a competitive performance will boost confidence for the the qualifiers. We need a few Qualifier games against mid ranking teams to see where we stand now and to bring on the younger lads
I see the poll on stolensheep is going 3-1 for a Mayowr win. Fair summation of expectations among the faithful. :-\
Quote from: Rossfan on June 06, 2013, 10:33:50 AM
Quote from: ross matt on June 06, 2013, 12:56:03 AM
[Hi Moysider. Not trying to be confusing our indeed cute. By way of cynical I mean mean... tough... hard ruthless.... in other words professional so a compliment. In other words be like Kerry have been for 80 or 90 years.
Roscommon under Newton last year under performed. We all know poor Des was way out of date in his methods - it was like a year out for the panel in reality..
Not for a moment suggesting they will beat Mayo but a competitive performance will boost confidence for the the qualifiers. We need a few Qualifier games against mid ranking teams to see where we stand now and to bring on the younger lads
I see the poll on stolensheep is going 3-1 for a Mayowr win. Fair summation of expectations among the faithful. :-\
Heard Ros beat Dublin by 3 points on Tuesday. Outside bet for the All Ireland now surely... :P
Quote from: ballinaman on June 06, 2013, 10:39:30 AM
Quote from: Rossfan on June 06, 2013, 10:33:50 AM
Quote from: ross matt on June 06, 2013, 12:56:03 AM
[Hi Moysider. Not trying to be confusing our indeed cute. By way of cynical I mean mean... tough... hard ruthless.... in other words professional so a compliment. In other words be like Kerry have been for 80 or 90 years.
Roscommon under Newton last year under performed. We all know poor Des was way out of date in his methods - it was like a year out for the panel in reality..
Not for a moment suggesting they will beat Mayo but a competitive performance will boost confidence for the the qualifiers. We need a few Qualifier games against mid ranking teams to see where we stand now and to bring on the younger lads
I see the poll on stolensheep is going 3-1 for a Mayowr win. Fair summation of expectations among the faithful. :-\
Heard Ros beat Dublin by 3 points on Tuesday. Outside bet for the All Ireland now surely... :P
I'd like to hear the two lineups before laying out your savings Ballina :-*
Quote from: Rossfan on June 06, 2013, 10:45:07 AM
Quote from: ballinaman on June 06, 2013, 10:39:30 AM
Quote from: Rossfan on June 06, 2013, 10:33:50 AM
Quote from: ross matt on June 06, 2013, 12:56:03 AM
[Hi Moysider. Not trying to be confusing our indeed cute. By way of cynical I mean mean... tough... hard ruthless.... in other words professional so a compliment. In other words be like Kerry have been for 80 or 90 years.
Roscommon under Newton last year under performed. We all know poor Des was way out of date in his methods - it was like a year out for the panel in reality..
Not for a moment suggesting they will beat Mayo but a competitive performance will boost confidence for the the qualifiers. We need a few Qualifier games against mid ranking teams to see where we stand now and to bring on the younger lads
I see the poll on stolensheep is going 3-1 for a Mayowr win. Fair summation of expectations among the faithful. :-\
Heard Ros beat Dublin by 3 points on Tuesday. Outside bet for the All Ireland now surely... :P
I'd like to hear the two lineups before laying out your savings Ballina :-*
Aye but this is Dublin we are talking about.....they could be out a team of Croke Park stewards and could beat most Division 4 teams such is the strength in depth they have these days. ;)
'Twas five points, these Ros sources seem to be good at sowing misinformation 8)
It was only a development team so I wouldn't start booking summer holidays just yet, bucks.
Speaking of stolen sheep. The hoors won't allow me access it. Was it something I did? :P
Quote from: Farrandeelin on June 06, 2013, 05:31:54 PM
Speaking of stolen sheep. The hoors won't allow me access it. Was it something I did? :P
ProBoards updated their whole infrastructure and you need to sign in again. Given we have no one with the power to change the colour scheme it's now coated in a lovely Waterford blue.
Former Mayo All Ireland winner 1950/51 Mick Mulderrig passed away in Rathfarnham this week. Mick won his first senior medal at 19, same year as he won a Railway cup medal. One of natures gentlemen, Mick never blew but when he stepped down at 25 from inter county football his name was enshrined in the annals of mayo football. A Dheis de ar a ainm dilís.
So upsets happen, see Limerick today. I'm sure Roscommon will use that game today to beat Mayo. The Limerick game started at 4pm today too. Mayo v Ros throws in at 4pm next week... :o
However, hopefully that game will show Mayo that being favourites in bookies etc stands for nothing once you take the field of play. Hopefully I'll be smiling this time next week.
Quote from: Farrandeelin on June 09, 2013, 08:56:14 PM
So upsets happen, see Limerick today. I'm sure Roscommon will use that game today to beat Mayo. The Limerick game started at 4pm today too. Mayo v Ros throws in at 4pm next week... :o
However, hopefully that game will show Mayo that being favourites in bookies etc stands for nothing once you take the field of play. Hopefully I'll be smiling this time next week.
I plan to be be at my most drunk and most annoying this time next week, win, lose or draw.
Quote from: Syferus on June 09, 2013, 10:40:42 PM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on June 09, 2013, 08:56:14 PM
So upsets happen, see Limerick today. I'm sure Roscommon will use that game today to beat Mayo. The Limerick game started at 4pm today too. Mayo v Ros throws in at 4pm next week... :o
However, hopefully that game will show Mayo that being favourites in bookies etc stands for nothing once you take the field of play. Hopefully I'll be smiling this time next week.
I plan to be be at my most ..... annoying this time next week.
You're that way
ALL THE EFFIN TIME
Quote from: Farrandeelin on June 09, 2013, 08:56:14 PM
So upsets happen, see Limerick today. I'm sure Roscommon will use that game today to beat Mayo. The Limerick game started at 4pm today too. Mayo v Ros throws in at 4pm next week... :o
However, hopefully that game will show Mayo that being favourites in bookies etc stands for nothing once you take the field of play. Hopefully I'll be smiling this time next week.
Yeah, its a major advantage to Ross having it at 4pm. Mayo will not cope with it being at that time of the evening.
Any predictions for the starting 15? I think Coen will get the start, not many other changes from 15 V Galway would be my guess.
Quote from: ballinaman on June 11, 2013, 10:44:33 AM
Any predictions for the starting 15? I think Coen will get the start, not many other changes from 15 V Galway would be my guess.
I think you could be right - Coen to start and Dillon out to half forward line the only change I'd see. Maybe Barrett back in corner-back.
Quote from: Tubberman on June 11, 2013, 10:56:44 AM
Quote from: ballinaman on June 11, 2013, 10:44:33 AM
Any predictions for the starting 15? I think Coen will get the start, not many other changes from 15 V Galway would be my guess.
I think you could be right - Coen to start and Dillon out to half forward line the only change I'd see. Maybe Barrett back in corner-back.
Doherty will be close to starting for his free taking if fit. Would love to see Coen get a start. Regan , Burke , MacHale , Feeney and Barry Moran are all pushing hard for a starting berth from what I hear too. At least we have a strong bench developing to give us options to change up during the game.
Horan generally is conservative enough when making changes. I could see Coen starting, or else Richie Feeney coming at number 11. I cannot see too many changes from the Galway game. When is the team due to be named anyway?
Any of the Rossies want to predict their starting XV?
No ! ;D
Quote from: Rossfan on June 11, 2013, 09:33:21 PM
No ! ;D
I suppose if you had your way, you wouldn't even tell us the time the match was on! :D
Quote from: Farrandeelin on June 11, 2013, 09:35:53 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on June 11, 2013, 09:33:21 PM
No ! ;D
I suppose if you had your way, you wouldn't even tell us the time the match was on! :D
Ros v Mayo in the intermediate Connacht hurling final at 1:45pm. We'll win that one too.
Quote from: Farrandeelin on June 11, 2013, 09:35:53 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on June 11, 2013, 09:33:21 PM
No ! ;D
I suppose if you had your way, you wouldn't even tell us the time the match was on! :D
We'll leave that sort of thing to McGuinness and McGeeney ;D
We'll have a rookie goalie, a dodgy full back line, a poor defensively half back line , a one man midfield and a few half dacent forwards but sure we won't be hitting the ball up to them :-[
We could get an awful mauling :'(
On the other hand half our team will have happy memories of batin rhubarb teams in Castlebar at Minor and U21 so get out there bucks and repeat the dose.
It's time the torch was passed to a new generation of rhubarb slayers* and where and when better to start than next Sunday.
also the GAA public are looking for new clean heroes so let us be them.
*In the tradition of Keegan,Lindsay, Heneghan, Jigger, O'Gara, the mighty Dermot, TonyMc, Doory, Gay Sheerin etc.
Men who never feared anyone .
Raise up the standard high
wave banners to the sky
follow the lads in sunshine or rain
Then with a MIGHTY ROAR
let Rhubarbs know once more
that MEN from Roscommon are marching again.
Voted Roscommon by 4-6.
Quote from: Farrandeelin on June 11, 2013, 10:04:00 PM
Voted Roscommon by 4-6.
So that's you and Syfín. ;D
I went for 1 to 3.
Quote from: Rossfan on June 11, 2013, 10:06:56 PM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on June 11, 2013, 10:04:00 PM
Voted Roscommon by 4-6.
So that's you and Syfín. ;D
I went for 1 to 3.
Steady on now, someone might mistake that for confidence!
Ah sure Rossfan, my pessimism knows no bounds...but as bad and all as I am, I couldn't bring myself to choose the bottom option! ;D
If we get within 6 points of Mayo and put them under genuine pressure I'll be happy enough. Our underage pedigree is proven. In 2011 v Mayo followed by the Tyrone match I felt we'd laid a decent platform for future senior success.
Poor management in 2012 set us back a long way after being humiliated by what turned out to be (by their standards) a consistently poor Galway outfit. So we had to take an unexpected step back to move forward.
In the meantime Mayo moved on to a different level in terms of professionalism/fitness/physical strength/sports science/mental strength/experience/cynicism...... so personally I feel our goal for this encounter is competitiveness/pride/progress & damage limitation.
Nothing to lose. Everything to gain. Best of luck to the Rossies.
For us the script is there if we win, 'sure look at their recent record against Mayo and their underage successes!', perception can switch in an instant and Mayo themselves learnt that in 2011. We'll have to do this job someday.
Quote from: Syferus on June 11, 2013, 10:33:49 PM
For us the script is there if we win, 'sure look at their recent record against Mayo and their underage successes!', perception can switch in an instant and Mayo themselves learnt that in 2011. We'll have to do this job someday.
We learned what exactly in 2011?
Quote from: moysider on June 11, 2013, 10:44:43 PM
Quote from: Syferus on June 11, 2013, 10:33:49 PM
For us the script is there if we win, 'sure look at their recent record against Mayo and their underage successes!', perception can switch in an instant and Mayo themselves learnt that in 2011. We'll have to do this job someday.
We learned what exactly in 2011?
Young James' seat would have been hotter than a bowl of portage if London had scored a single point more in regular time.
You don't need telling how little was thought of Mayo entering the Cork game. Passengers, anyone?
Quote from: moysider on June 11, 2013, 10:44:43 PM
Quote from: Syferus on June 11, 2013, 10:33:49 PM
For us the script is there if we win, 'sure look at their recent record against Mayo and their underage successes!', perception can switch in an instant and Mayo themselves learnt that in 2011. We'll have to do this job someday.
We learned what exactly in 2011?
That football is a game of inches. Where would Mayo be now if they didn't win the 2011 Connacht title?
Quote from: Blowitupref on June 11, 2013, 11:45:15 PM
Quote from: moysider on June 11, 2013, 10:44:43 PM
Quote from: Syferus on June 11, 2013, 10:33:49 PM
For us the script is there if we win, 'sure look at their recent record against Mayo and their underage successes!', perception can switch in an instant and Mayo themselves learnt that in 2011. We'll have to do this job someday.
We learned what exactly in 2011?
That football is a game of inches. Where would Mayo be now if they didn't win the 2011 Connacht title?
we'd have wan less Connacht title ;)
Reading through the Roscommon hearld , i don't think i have ever read such negativity towards the actual outcome of a game in my life, it is unbelievable , from Cregg the player to Willie Hegarty, ''performance, keep within six, david v golliath,break the game down, do as best we can!!! bluber bluber me, cry me a fookin river.
Either they have a master plan and have decided to send out secret newletters to every house in the county telling them about this beal bocht approach or they're just pure horse manure and are genuinely shittin themselves.
It has me a tad worried now though, there is an undertone of smugness here with this lot .
Quote from: larryin89 on June 12, 2013, 01:06:01 AM
Reading through the Roscommon hearld , i don't think i have ever read such negativity towards the actual outcome of a game in my life, it is unbelievable , from Cregg the player to Willie Hegarty, ''performance, keep within six, david v golliath,break the game down, do as best we can!!! bluber bluber me, cry me a fookin river.
Either they have a master plan and have decided to send out secret newletters to every house in the county telling them about this beal bocht approach or they're just pure horse manure and are genuinely shittin themselves.
It has me a tad worried now though, there is an undertone of smugness here with this lot .
So our tactics are working?
That's the first job done, Rossfan. Now we just need to not do a Sligo in the final and float off into the clouds.
Seventy years since Jimmy Murray first flung Sam high in the rays of an autumnal Sun in north Dublin. Fate, surely?
Quote from: Syferus on June 11, 2013, 11:00:23 PM
Quote from: moysider on June 11, 2013, 10:44:43 PM
Quote from: Syferus on June 11, 2013, 10:33:49 PM
For us the script is there if we win, 'sure look at their recent record against Mayo and their underage successes!', perception can switch in an instant and Mayo themselves learnt that in 2011. We'll have to do this job someday.
We learned what exactly in 2011?
Young James' seat would have been hotter than a bowl of portage if London had scored a single point more in regular time.
You don't need telling how little was thought of Mayo entering the Cork game. Passengers, anyone?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FfdxS0CvjC0 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FfdxS0CvjC0)
Quote from: larryin89 on June 12, 2013, 01:06:01 AM
Reading through the Roscommon hearld , i don't think i have ever read such negativity towards the actual outcome of a game in my life, it is unbelievable , from Cregg the player to Willie Hegarty, ''performance, keep within six, david v golliath,break the game down, do as best we can!!! bluber bluber me, cry me a fookin river.
I'd prefer a little less negativity myself - I suppose it's really only realism but it could be delivered a bit more upbeatedly.
Hopefully Evans is giving a different message to the players behind the scenes.
I'm hoping for a big perfomance from the lads and lets see where that takes us.
Quote from: Rossfan on June 12, 2013, 12:26:42 PM
Quote from: larryin89 on June 12, 2013, 01:06:01 AM
Reading through the Roscommon hearld , i don't think i have ever read such negativity towards the actual outcome of a game in my life, it is unbelievable , from Cregg the player to Willie Hegarty, ''performance, keep within six, david v golliath,break the game down, do as best we can!!! bluber bluber me, cry me a fookin river.
I'd prefer a little less negativity myself - I suppose it's really only realism but it could be delivered a bit more upbeatedly.
Hopefully Evans is giving a different message to the players behind the scenes.
I'm hoping for a big perfomance from the lads and lets see where that takes us.
Looking forward to seeing a few more of your ridiculously large font primrose & blue statements.....flashing from right to left if possible. They always get a run in the month of June....at a stretch July, disappear then for the rest of the year strangely though?!? ;)
Ros SF Team v Mayo: O'Malley;Collins,Carty,McDermott;Keenan,N Daly,C Daly;Higgins,Finneran;Devaney,Mannion,Cregg;D Smith,Kilbride,O'Gara
Quote from: fearbrags on June 12, 2013, 01:17:42 PM
Ros SF Team v Mayo: O'Malley;Collins,Carty,McDermott;Keenan,N Daly,C Daly;Higgins,Finneran;Devaney,Mannion,Cregg;D Smith,Kilbride,O'Gara
Is higgans the usual partner for Finneran, did he play the league campaign there?
Quote from: larryin89 on June 12, 2013, 01:34:05 PM
Quote from: fearbrags on June 12, 2013, 01:17:42 PM
Ros SF Team v Mayo: O'Malley;Collins,Carty,McDermott;Keenan,N Daly,C Daly;Higgins,Finneran;Devaney,Mannion,Cregg;D Smith,Kilbride,O'Gara
Is higgans the usual partner for Finneran, did he play the league campaign there?
Played the last two league campaigns together.
Good to see DO'G moved closer to goal.
Quote from: fearbrags on June 12, 2013, 01:17:42 PM
Ros SF Team v Mayo: O'Malley;Collins,Carty,McDermott;Keenan,N Daly,C Daly;Higgins,Finneran;Devaney,Mannion,Cregg;D Smith,Kilbride,O'Gara
That's a solid Ross team even without Ian Kilbride and Donie Shine. Carty , Niall and Conor Daly are strong at the back , Finneran , Cregg and Mannion will make it a right battle in the middle and in Smith , O'Gara and Senan Kilbride ( he will surely bring his club form into this one as he seems to thrive on the bigger occasions) they have a scoring inside line that will love the open spaces of MacHale park. I would expect O' Gara to come out around the forty to leave space inside for Kilbride and Smith with him and Cregg to carry the fight to the Mayo back 6 with their running game. As long as Ross move the ball with the foot into their half forwards they will be able to negate Mayo's pressure defence. It's shaping up to be a good auld style Mayo Rosscommon battle! Maybe Shine might be a surprise start as he would punish any sloppy fouls by the likes of Vaughan around the middle?
Nah, he's not ready and Evans knows it. Some positive words coming out of camp though so he may appear as a sub. Actually, both Shines could make an apperance. We've a good balance on the bench for a change with good players in all major lines to bring on.
QuoteRos SF Team v Mayo: O'Malley;Collins,Carty,McDermott;Keenan,N Daly,C Daly;Higgins,Finneran;Devaney,Mannion,Cregg;D Smith,Kilbride,O'Gara
That's as good a Ros team I've seen named in a long long time and when you consider that we will have a significantly weakened team from last year and a wet ball this will be a close one.
Quote from: ballinaman on June 12, 2013, 01:06:35 PM
Looking forward to seeing a few more of your ridiculously large font primrose & blue statements.....flashing from right to left if possible. They always get a run in the month of June....at a stretch July, disappear then for the rest of the year strangely though?!? ;)
A bit like ye crowd in 2010
:-*
Quote from: fearbrags on June 12, 2013, 01:17:42 PM
Ros SF Team v Mayo: O'Malley;Collins,Carty,McDermott;Keenan,N Daly,C Daly;Higgins,Finneran;Devaney,Mannion,Cregg;D Smith,Kilbride,O'Gara
Along expected lines.
Just as important are the next 5 to come in. This year we have a good first 20 for the first time in many a day.
The oul tingles are starting to make their presence felt and sod the negativity - just go over there lads and show the hoors .
WE ARE ROS !!![/b]
People forget that the last meeting between these two side in 2011 ended Roscommon 0-11 - 0-13 Mayo. Cillian O'Connor (who is not playing on the weekend) got 8 (yes eight) points all from frees that day!
The Indo thinks Cathal is Donie's 'younger brother'. I'm starting to feel the 2010 spider sense kicking back in..
Quote from: From the Bunker on June 12, 2013, 03:05:53 PM
People forget that the last meeting between these two side in 2011 ended Roscommon 0-11 - 0-13 Mayo. Cillian O'Connor (who is not playing on the weekend) got 8 (yes eight) points all from frees that day!
I think we've up the ante in terms of conditioning since then and are a couple of years older and more experienced (sideline too).
Were Mayo the last Division 1 team Roscommon have played in a competitive match? I expect Ros to burst out the gates, I'm sure Evans will have the walls shaking under the stand but that kind of stuff won't get you much further than half time.
Mayo will have planned accordingly and I have no fear whatsoever that these bunch of lads and management won't execute that plan.
Mayo to win, and to win pulling up.
Quote from: ballinaman on June 12, 2013, 03:22:57 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on June 12, 2013, 03:05:53 PM
People forget that the last meeting between these two side in 2011 ended Roscommon 0-11 - 0-13 Mayo. Cillian O'Connor (who is not playing on the weekend) got 8 (yes eight) points all from frees that day!
I think we've up the ante in terms of conditioning since then and are a couple of years older and more experienced (sideline too).
Were Mayo the last Division 1 team Roscommon have played in a competitive match? I expect Ros to burst out the gates, I'm sure Evans will have the walls shaking under the stand but that kind of stuff won't get you much further than half time.
Mayo will have planned accordingly and I have no fear whatsoever that these bunch of lads and management won't execute that plan.
Mayo to win, and to win pulling up.
That's where the halftime talk comes in useful ;)
Quote from: spuds on June 12, 2013, 03:27:36 PM
Quote from: ballinaman on June 12, 2013, 03:22:57 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on June 12, 2013, 03:05:53 PM
People forget that the last meeting between these two side in 2011 ended Roscommon 0-11 - 0-13 Mayo. Cillian O'Connor (who is not playing on the weekend) got 8 (yes eight) points all from frees that day!
I think we've up the ante in terms of conditioning since then and are a couple of years older and more experienced (sideline too).
Were Mayo the last Division 1 team Roscommon have played in a competitive match? I expect Ros to burst out the gates, I'm sure Evans will have the walls shaking under the stand but that kind of stuff won't get you much further than half time.
Mayo will have planned accordingly and I have no fear whatsoever that these bunch of lads and management won't execute that plan.
Mayo to win, and to win pulling up.
That's where the halftime talk comes in useful ;)
ha,...45 minutes so... ;)
QuoteI'm sure Evans will have the walls shaking under the stand but that kind of stuff won't get you much further than half time.
That won't happen either we have prepared very well for that kinda thing. Only cost 12million or so!
Quote from: From the Bunker on June 12, 2013, 03:05:53 PM
People forget that the last meeting between these two side in 2011 ended Roscommon 0-11 - 0-13 Mayo. Cillian O'Connor (who is not playing on the weekend) got 8 (yes eight) points all from frees that day!
I don't think many will forget that but they may forget that Donie Shine (who is not starting on the weekend) scored 0-8 of the 0-11 for us that day.
Quote from: ballinaman on June 12, 2013, 03:22:57 PM
Were Mayo the last Division 1 team Roscommon have played in a competitive match?
Even though they were relegated Armagh were Div 1 when be played them last year Shine scored 0-7 of the 1-11 that day.
QuotePeople forget that the last meeting between these two side in 2011 ended Roscommon 0-11 - 0-13 Mayo. Cillian O'Connor (who is not playing on the weekend) got 8 (yes eight) points all from frees that day!Quote
I don't think many will forget that but they may forget that Donie Shine (who is not starting on the weekend) scored 0-8 of the 0-11 for us that day.
Maybe they should just have a free taking competition on the back pitch and call off the match? Save everyone a few bob.
After looking at that Roscommon team and reading some of the Rossies on this site, especially the very relevant point (NOT) about their record over Mayo in underage recently, I really dont think there is any point in Mayo showing up. The Connacht board need to start preparing the typeface for the Connacht Final program Roscommon V L (it'll definetly begin with L)
Who will we get in the back door I wonder?
Longford hopefully ;D ;D :P
Felt dirty buying the Western People today, got some rough looks from the fine Ros-loving people of Ballagh, but I need to do my usual level of in-depth scouting ahead of our victory.. err, game.. at the weekend.
Those papers should be stopped at the Co Boundary sign and returned fortwith ;D
How do ye expect the Ballagh rhubarbs to ever correct their false ways if they're imbibing a load of propoganda from Ballina every week.
Come on Syfín - get things organised there FFS >:(
Good positive move by John Evans to name the team first, none of this keeping the opposition guessing as if that's an advantage. It's true, Jaspar Tully's famed paper was a downer this week leading with the hurling loss followed by a selection of morose predictions about Castlebar. Even Willie didn't have the usual purple patch of similes. Hopefully it will make for better reading next week.
Quote from: Rossfan on June 12, 2013, 05:39:41 PM
Those papers should be stopped at the Co Boundary sign and returned fortwith ;D
How do ye expect the Ballagh rhubarbs to ever correct their false ways if they're imbibing a load of propoganda from Ballina every week.
Come on Syfín - get things organised there FFS >:(
Im sure the Western was goin into Ballagh before
we loaned ye the place ;)
Quote from: sans pessimism on June 13, 2013, 12:40:20 AM
Quote from: Rossfan on June 12, 2013, 05:39:41 PM
Those papers should be stopped at the Co Boundary sign and returned fortwith ;D
How do ye expect the Ballagh rhubarbs to ever correct their false ways if they're imbibing a load of propoganda from Ballina every week.
Come on Syfín - get things organised there FFS >:(
Im sure the Western was goin into Ballagh before
we loaned ye the place ;)
I saw Fr. Dan's picture in the dreaded Western today, in the soaking rain two years ago with a full-sized radio and full-on headphones listening to the match:
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v602/Syferus/danno_zpsdb6c2648.jpg)
Nevermind smartphones, has Mayo not got portable radios yet? If Fr. Dan was born one house over ('the last house in Mayo'', according to Johnno) he might have had the joys of both representing a great footballing county and access to post-industrial age technology.
Quote from: iorras on June 12, 2013, 05:05:15 PM
After looking at that Roscommon team and reading some of the Rossies on this site, especially the very relevant point (NOT) about their record over Mayo in underage recently, I really dont think there is any point in Mayo showing up.
The Connacht board need to start preparing the typeface for the Connacht Final program Roscommon V L (it'll definetly begin with L)
Who will we get in the back door I wonder?
You mean in the same way they have already engraved Sam Maguire with Mayo All Ireland Champions 2013 ?? 8)
http://www.mayogaa.com/news/265965/Mayo_Senior_Football_Team_V_s_Roscommon
James Horan has made one change for next Sundays Connacht Senior Football Championship Semi-Final. Richie Feeney will replace the injured Cillian O'Connor at Centre-Half Forward in an otherwise unchanged side from that that defeated Galway in Pearse Stadium last month. The Mayo Senior Football Team to face Roscommon this Sunday 16th June at 4.00p.m. in Elverys MacHale Park is as follows:
1. David Clarke - Ballina Stephenites
2. Tom Cunniffe - Castlebar Mitchels
3. Ger Cafferkey - Ballina Stephenites
4. Keith Higgins - Ballyhaunis
5. Lee Keegan - Westport
6. Donal Vaughan - Ballinrobe
7. Colm Boyle - Davitts
8. Aidan O'Shea - Breaffy
9. Seamus O'Shea - Breaffy
10. Kevin McLoughlin - Knockmore
11. Richie Feeney - Castlebar Mitchels
12. Cathal Carolan - Crossmolina
13. Enda Varley - Garrymore
14. Alan Freeman - Aghamore
15. Alan Dillon - Ballintubber
Quote from: intoDwest on June 13, 2013, 09:56:48 AM
http://www.mayogaa.com/news/265965/Mayo_Senior_Football_Team_V_s_Roscommon
James Horan has made one change for next Sundays Connacht Senior Football Championship Semi-Final. Richie Feeney will replace the injured Cillian O'Connor at Centre-Half Forward in an otherwise unchanged side from that that defeated Galway in Pearse Stadium last month. The Mayo Senior Football Team to face Roscommon this Sunday 16th June at 4.00p.m. in Elverys MacHale Park is as follows:
1. David Clarke - Ballina Stephenites
2. Tom Cunniffe - Castlebar Mitchels
3. Ger Cafferkey - Ballina Stephenites
4. Keith Higgins - Ballyhaunis
5. Lee Keegan - Westport
6. Donal Vaughan - Ballinrobe
7. Colm Boyle - Davitts
8. Aidan O'Shea - Breaffy
9. Seamus O'Shea - Breaffy
10. Kevin McLoughlin - Knockmore
11. Richie Feeney - Castlebar Mitchels
12. Cathal Carolan - Crossmolina
13. Enda Varley - Garrymore
14. Alan Freeman - Aghamore
15. Alan Dillon - Ballintubber
There! Will yiz all believe me now?? ;D ;D
I would have been quite surprised if Richie hadn't got the no. 11 spot and if Alan Freeman didn't continue on as FF.
I'm expecting great things from Richie in his new role.
By the time the game is over, he'll be odds-on to win the World Sheep Shearing Championships.
He may not be a Ciaran Ma but he's the closest to him in terms of cool-headed assessment of the situation and ability to pinpoint his passes that I've seen since the Great One
got shafted departed.
As for AF, James sees more in him than I do at the moment but I'd be inclined to trust Horan's judgement over mine.
Quote from: intoDwest on June 13, 2013, 09:56:48 AM
http://www.mayogaa.com/news/265965/Mayo_Senior_Football_Team_V_s_Roscommon
James Horan has made one change for next Sundays Connacht Senior Football Championship Semi-Final. Richie Feeney will replace the injured Cillian O'Connor at Centre-Half Forward in an otherwise unchanged side from that that defeated Galway in Pearse Stadium last month. The Mayo Senior Football Team to face Roscommon this Sunday 16th June at 4.00p.m. in Elverys MacHale Park is as follows:
1. David Clarke - Ballina Stephenites
2. Tom Cunniffe - Castlebar Mitchels
3. Ger Cafferkey - Ballina Stephenites
4. Keith Higgins - Ballyhaunis
5. Lee Keegan - Westport
6. Donal Vaughan - Ballinrobe
7. Colm Boyle - Davitts
8. Aidan O'Shea - Breaffy
9. Seamus O'Shea - Breaffy
10. Kevin McLoughlin - Knockmore
11. Richie Feeney - Castlebar Mitchels
12. Cathal Carolan - Crossmolina
13. Enda Varley - Garrymore
14. Alan Freeman - Aghamore
15. Alan Dillon - Ballintubber
Richie will do a solid job on the forty but my one worry is the frees from the right. It seems from that line up that Dillion or Freeman will take the frees from the right but Alan has limited range and Freeman is fairly inconsistent in terms of accuracy. Hopefully we can score one or two goals to offset this but if I was a Roscommon half back I wouldn't be worried about tactically fouling out around our half forward line to stop the momentum of Mayo attacks!
Would of preferred to see Andy in ff instead of Alan Freeman but maybe thats the plan anyway.
Donnie Shine, givin it socks, ''we're well able to beat Mayo''.
Fair play to him , he also says ''we've beaten Mayo before'', not sure what he means by this , he certainly wasn't playing in 2001 nor any of the team playing sunday, he must mean in history like, found that a bit of an obvious one, as i'm sure everyone knows Ross have beaten Mayo numerous occasions through history. I reckon he was bangin the counter when he was giving this interview , foamin at the mouth, maybe even a drink taken, full of the rossie bravado, its probably edited all the references he made to the seventies.
Donie with one 'n', lad.
Aidan O'Shea seems to be worried about Peter Domican running riot on Sunday given his interview in the Western. It'd be some feat for a lad that's not been on the panel this year, to be sure. I guess Mayo feel they just need to not turn up half-sauced and the job is done?
Quote from: Syferus on June 13, 2013, 01:26:18 PM
Donie with one 'n', lad.
Aidan O'Shea seems to be worried about Peter Domican running riot on Sunday given his interview in the Western. It'd be some feat for a lad that's not been on the panel this year, to be sure. I guess Mayo feel they just need to not turn up half-sauced and the job is done?
It's a lose lose situation for Mayo. If they're beaten on Sunday it will be put down to taking Ross for granted. Go out and have an comprehensive victory; it will be put down to Division one team against Division three.
Personally 2010 is too fresh in my mind to take Ross for granted. However, Ross are really up against it. Nothing but there best performances is required on Sunday and that is possible won't be enough. Mayo on the other hand need to continue to show improvements, being sharper and making more turnovers ... etc. Regression in performance will signal trouble ahead win or lose!
Quote from: larryin89 on June 13, 2013, 01:13:52 PM
Donnie Shine, givin it socks, ''we're well able to beat Mayo''.
Fair play to him , he also says ''we've beaten Mayo before'', not sure what he means by this , he certainly wasn't playing in 2001 nor any of the team playing sunday, he must mean in history like, found that a bit of an obvious one, as i'm sure everyone knows Ross have beaten Mayo numerous occasions through history. I reckon he was bangin the counter when he was giving this interview , foamin at the mouth, maybe even a drink taken, full of the rossie bravado, its probably edited all the references he made to the seventies.
Couldn't meet a nicer fella than our Donie and he's not the foamin at the mouth type of guy. Maybe he's talking about underage games like the U-21 2010 game when Shane McHale, Kevin Keane; Lee Keegan,Cathal Carolan, Kevin McLoughlin, Jason Doherty,Aidan O'Shea, Alan Freeman all lined out for Mayo but hey who reads into those games.
BTW have Mayo chosen the Dublin hotel for the Croker games yet? Horan will want a upgrade from the Regency hotel.
Quote from: ross4life on June 13, 2013, 06:10:20 PM
Quote from: larryin89 on June 13, 2013, 01:13:52 PM
Donnie Shine, givin it socks, ''we're well able to beat Mayo''.
Fair play to him , he also says ''we've beaten Mayo before'', not sure what he means by this , he certainly wasn't playing in 2001 nor any of the team playing sunday, he must mean in history like, found that a bit of an obvious one, as i'm sure everyone knows Ross have beaten Mayo numerous occasions through history. I reckon he was bangin the counter when he was giving this interview , foamin at the mouth, maybe even a drink taken, full of the rossie bravado, its probably edited all the references he made to the seventies.
Couldn't meet a nicer fella than our Donie and he's not the foamin at the mouth type of guy. Maybe he's talking about underage games like the U-21 2010 game when Shane McHale, Kevin Keane; Lee Keegan,Cathal Carolan, Kevin McLoughlin, Jason Doherty,Aidan O'Shea, Alan Freeman all lined out for Mayo but hey who reads into those games.
BTW have Mayo chosen the Dublin hotel for the Croker games yet? Horan will want a upgrade from the Regency hotel.
The way it read it sounds like he was talking about 2001 and all the other times we've ripped away any notions of grandeur Mayo might have clung onto:
QuoteShine: we're well able to beat Mayo
13 June 2013
Shine is convinced Roscommon can topple Mayo in Sunday's Connacht SFC semi-final.
The Clann na nGael attacker, who will miss the MacHale Park clash with a hamstring injury, says John Evans' underdogs are determined to atone for their 2011 Connacht final loss to the three-in-a-row chasing champions.
"It was a terrible day in the Hyde and we know we missed a few chances and we could have taken them that day," he recalled in the Irish Daily Star.
"But if you look at the two sides, not much has changed when we probably should have beaten them and didn't.
"Mayo have probably been together under James Horan a bit longer and they're developed a bit more. They have a bit more experience, and that's probably where they're getting a bit over us.
"We're looking to cause an upset. I think if we can stay in the game and just match Mayo for the first 40 minutes, we'll definitely be there or thereabouts. We will be confident. We're well able to beat Mayo, we've beaten them before and we're a similar team to what we had, if not better."
http://hoganstand.com/Roscommon/ArticleForm.aspx?ID=194358 (http://hoganstand.com/Roscommon/ArticleForm.aspx?ID=194358)
Good to see some fight on the team, I'm sure a lad with Conancht titles at all grades, an AI minor medal and a Sigerson in his back pocket is bristling at how the game is being portrayed as a procession by everyone, even people in our own county who should know better.
Most of these lads have never had any reason to fear Mayo and I doubt they want to start now. Evans and the panel have plenty of material for the pre-match and half-time talks, that's for sure.
True, Syferus, for all the underage success Roscommon have had recently, they should have no fear whatsoever of Mayo. I don't expect them to either. Very close game in prospect methinks.
Last couple of Championship meetings. Not good reading for the Rossies.
Mayo 0-13 - 0-11 Roscommon Connacht final 2011
Mayo 3-18 - 0-07 Roscommon Connacht semi final 2009
Mayo 1-16 - 0-11 Roscommon Connacht semi final 2005
Mayo 2-13 - 0-09 Roscommon Mayo Connacht final 2004
Mayo 0-20 - 2-08 Roscommon Qualifier Round 2 2002
Roscommon 2-10 - 1-12 Mayo Mayo Connacht final 2001
Mayo 0-21 - 0-10 Roscommon Connacht semi final 1999
Mayo 0-14 – 0-10 Roscommon Connacht semi final 1996
Mayo have seven wins and One loss over the period scoring 7:127 and conceding 4:76.
I was at every feckin one of them :-\
But they are irrelevant as last year's snow now.
All that counts is wht happens when the ball is thrown in next Sunday at 4pm.
The positive for Ros is that there was little or nothing in the last meeting of the teams. Galway played right into Mayo's hands last month. They thought that they were going to have the usual free flowing football shoot out that happens year after year between the counties. Last year Sligo played Mayo at their own game and nearly caught them. If Ros replicate this discipline and commitment they could cause a stir. Anyway looking forward to the game. I naturally hope Mayo win, but it would do nobody any harm to have a tight, aggressive and tactical game.
And us to scrape it by 8 pts to 7 ;D and Spillane and Brolly to slate Connacht football all night long.
" jasus Roscommon playin wit a ten man half back line " "Football is rooned I tell ye!!"
Quote from: Syferus on June 13, 2013, 01:47:51 AM
I saw Fr. Dan's picture in the dreaded Western today, in the soaking rain two years ago with a full-sized radio and full-on headphones listening to the match:
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v602/Syferus/danno_zpsdb6c2648.jpg)
Jaysus. Wasn't he lucky he wasn't electrocuted with that stuff?
''BTW have Mayo chosen the Dublin hotel for the Croker games yet? Horan will want a upgrade from the Regency hotel''
He'll get his upgrade, Belmullet for training camp has the cb rollin in it.
Do people think Mayo have improved greatly since Hyde park 2011? I do.
Do people think Roscommon have suddenly became a great side, why didn't they gain promotion, what happened in Galway and Tyrone games last year?
I'm a little bit baffled at why people are just pulling these mad notions out of the sky, maybe i'm missing something but i maintain there is no chance of an upset on Sunday and furthermore i see a comfortable win.
Is there evidence to suggest Roscommon are at the same or even near the same intensity levels Mayo are capable of. Did ye see the way Galway were honest to jasus bouncing off Mayo?
The western Gaels maneen they have in the middle, i fear for his safety, he will be brused aside like a ball boy thats entered the field by mistake.
Like i say i find it all very bafflling, the cautious approach by some Mayo posters and the optimism of the Rossies, where as nobody can back it up .
Quote from: larryin89 on June 13, 2013, 10:02:49 PM
''BTW have Mayo chosen the Dublin hotel for the Croker games yet? Horan will want a upgrade from the Regency hotel''
He'll get his upgrade, Belmullet for training camp has the cb rollin in it.
Do people think Mayo have improved greatly since Hyde park 2011? I do.
Do people think Roscommon have suddenly became a great side, why didn't they gain promotion, what happened in Galway and Tyrone games last year?
I'm a little bit baffled at why people are just pulling these mad notions out of the sky, maybe i'm missing something but i maintain there is no chance of an upset on Sunday and furthermore i see a comfortable win.
Is there evidence to suggest Roscommon are at the same or even near the same intensity levels Mayo are capable of. Did ye see the way Galway were honest to jasus bouncing off Mayo?
The western Gaels maneen they have in the middle, i fear for his safety, he will be brused aside like a ball boy thats entered the field by mistake.
Like i say i find it all very bafflling, the cautious approach by some Mayo posters and the optimism of the Rossies, where as nobody can back it up .
cool d'owl drawers there larry/PSTG or whoever
Quote from: sans pessimism on June 13, 2013, 10:15:36 PM
Quote from: larryin89 on June 13, 2013, 10:02:49 PM
''BTW have Mayo chosen the Dublin hotel for the Croker games yet? Horan will want a upgrade from the Regency hotel''
He'll get his upgrade, Belmullet for training camp has the cb rollin in it.
Do people think Mayo have improved greatly since Hyde park 2011? I do.
Do people think Roscommon have suddenly became a great side, why didn't they gain promotion, what happened in Galway and Tyrone games last year?
I'm a little bit baffled at why people are just pulling these mad notions out of the sky, maybe i'm missing something but i maintain there is no chance of an upset on Sunday and furthermore i see a comfortable win.
Is there evidence to suggest Roscommon are at the same or even near the same intensity levels Mayo are capable of. Did ye see the way Galway were honest to jasus bouncing off Mayo?
The western Gaels maneen they have in the middle, i fear for his safety, he will be brused aside like a ball boy thats entered the field by mistake.
Like i say i find it all very bafflling, the cautious approach by some Mayo posters and the optimism of the Rossies, where as nobody can back it up .
cool d'owl drawers there larry/PSTG or whoever
They are just genuine questions, i'm interested as to where people on the internet are coming from with all these wild notions that the Rossies have suddenly became a formidable side as opposed to my food of thought which says they are a ridiculously poor side.
In fairness to Larryin89 there's not a massive amount to back up this statement from Donie.
"But if you look at the two sides, not much has changed when we probably should have beaten them and didn't."
I'd argue we weren't going to lose that day. But to say not much has changed is outrageous, as much as there is a chance that Roscommon will play to the top of their game on Sunday and mayo will be caught cold, 9 times out of 10 Mayo should win (Mayo are 6 to 1 on).
If you look at Mayo since 2011 they've been to a semi final and a final, gradually shown progression, developed as players and a team and can realistically be counted as one of the top three contenders for the AI.
Could the same progression be shown for Roscommon? Not on last years evidence.
You have to have serious blinkers on to think Mayo 'weren't going to lose in 2011'.
We missed a load of good chances with the wind in the first half and Donie hit at minimum three on-target shots (two of which were frees) in the second half that were dropped into Hennelly'a hands by the worsening blizzard we were playing into.
Keep puffing out the ould chests lads, it'll only make it sweeter if we puncture the wheels of the Croke Park Express.
A little respect from the new guysfor the fine tradition
and football ability of Ros wouldnt hurt
Quote from: sans pessimism on June 13, 2013, 11:16:26 PM
A little respect from the new guysfor the fine tradition
and football ability of Ros wouldnt hurt
Ok. Don't mean to hurt anyones feelings.
Just asking genuine questions, just simply tell me when did Roscommon become a good side? Like i have alluded to earlier , i can't fathom where this is all coming from?
I'm looking at a side who couldnt make promotion from div 3, couldn't beat Wwicklow in the hyde park, got a drubbing off an average Galway side in the championship 12 months ago.
Has Evans got a masterplan to topple Mayo, have they improved significantly since the brigids players came back for the latter part of the league, is it because they beat Cavan,? You must understand where i'm coming from, i don't get it, fill me in.
Do you think because maybe Dunie Shine will start , that this will put some fear into Mayo?
Quote from: From the Bunker on June 13, 2013, 07:38:51 PM
Last couple of Championship meetings. Not good reading for the Rossies.
Mayo 0-13 - 0-11 Roscommon Connacht final 2011
Mayo 3-18 - 0-07 Roscommon Connacht semi final 2009
Mayo 1-16 - 0-11 Roscommon Connacht semi final 2005
Mayo 2-13 - 0-09 Roscommon Mayo Connacht final 2004
Mayo 0-20 - 2-08 Roscommon Qualifier Round 2 2002
Roscommon 2-10 - 1-12 Mayo Mayo Connacht final 2001
Mayo 0-21 - 0-10 Roscommon Connacht semi final 1999
Mayo 0-14 – 0-10 Roscommon Connacht semi final 1996
Mayo have seven wins and One loss over the period scoring 7:127 and conceding 4:76.
Of all of those games the one I was most certain of a win, was 2001.
That is why we should take nothing for granted. On all known form Mayo should win, but the beauty of sport, and tradition, means this is a real live contest unless Ros completely freeze. That happens too, but we can't rely on it.
Mayo by 5 after a tough 50 minutes.
QuoteStatement regarding Dr. Hyde Park
posted 6 hours ago by PRO Roscommon
The Management Committee of Roscommon GAA was recently informed by the Connacht Council that Dr. Hyde Park will not be considered as a venue for Connacht Senior Football Championship Finals for the foreseeable future.
We were disappointed to receive the news but can accept the reasoning due a number of the concerns contained in the "Slattery Report" which was published last year. Although a number of issues were addressed in the lead up to last year's Connacht Final some of the facilities are not considered suitable and there are a number of Health and Safety issues outstanding.
At present the venue cannot accommodate crowds in excess of 18,750 but can host other Connacht Championship games, All-Ireland qualifiers and other games with smaller attendances.
We are aware of the financial benefits that hosting the past two Connacht Finals has brought to Roscommon town and the impact on our own finances and we are doing our utmost to resolve the situation.
We are currently finalising negotiations with Roscommon Gaels to transfer control of the stadium to Roscommon County Board and once this process has reached a conclusion we will forward a plan to the Connacht Council and Central Council to seek funding for the redevelopment of the Stadium in order to bring the facilities to a standard required for hosting major games and to give the people of Roscommon a Stadium to be proud of.
It can't be over-stated how much that's going to feed into the sentiment at the weekend. That is a hugely emotive issue here. Nevermind the players, the supporters will be liable to run through a few brick walls. Prenty just added another foil to the match.
Forget about the play-acting for a second - this has really pissed me off in a way very few things can. Pathetic.
Well larry I think that a phrase like 'fear for his safety'is way Ott-
thats what I mean by having a little respect.By all means heap
praise on whoever you want but not to sneer at lads that are training
all year for this very day.'Aim high but allow for the drop'
Fair enough cara, just a bit of jest tbh, no harm meant.
Quote from: muppet on June 13, 2013, 11:40:48 PM
Of all of those games the one I was most certain of a win, was 2001.
How so? yes Mayo had won the league however Roscommon were also div 1 and had just beaten a good Galway side in Tuam.
Quote from: larryin89 on June 13, 2013, 11:54:01 PM
Fair enough cara, just a bit of jest tbh, no harm meant.
hopefully we can crow after Sun
Quote from: Syferus on June 13, 2013, 11:46:34 PM
QuoteStatement regarding Dr. Hyde Park
posted 6 hours ago by PRO Roscommon
The Management Committee of Roscommon GAA was recently informed by the Connacht Council that Dr. Hyde Park will not be considered as a venue for Connacht Senior Football Championship Finals for the foreseeable future.
We were disappointed to receive the news but can accept the reasoning due a number of the concerns contained in the "Slattery Report" which was published last year. Although a number of issues were addressed in the lead up to last year's Connacht Final some of the facilities are not considered suitable and there are a number of Health and Safety issues outstanding.
At present the venue cannot accommodate crowds in excess of 18,750 but can host other Connacht Championship games, All-Ireland qualifiers and other games with smaller attendances.
We are aware of the financial benefits that hosting the past two Connacht Finals has brought to Roscommon town and the impact on our own finances and we are doing our utmost to resolve the situation.
We are currently finalising negotiations with Roscommon Gaels to transfer control of the stadium to Roscommon County Board and once this process has reached a conclusion we will forward a plan to the Connacht Council and Central Council to seek funding for the redevelopment of the Stadium in order to bring the facilities to a standard required for hosting major games and to give the people of Roscommon a Stadium to be proud of.
It can't be over-stated how much that's going to feed into the sentiment at the weekend. That is a hugely emotive issue here. Nevermind the players, the supporters will be liable to run through a few brick walls. Prenty just added another foil to the match.
Forget about the play-acting for a second - this has really pissed me off in a way very few things can. Pathetic.
1) This has already happened in Mayo when Castlebar Mitchels club was relieved of McHale Park .
2) Rossies have little to whinge about considering what happened the original vote for a Provincial Ground for Connacht.
This has nothing to do with Mayo or this match and you are seriously clutching at some hypocritical straws there.
Who the hell said anything about Mayo the county? It's Prenty the man and our board for making a mess of the Hyde that are to blame.
That Prenty is and has been trying every trick in the book to service the spiralling debt on McHale very much feeds into Sunday's game at the titular Prenty Bowl.
Quote from: Syferus on June 14, 2013, 01:01:09 AM
Who the hell said anything about Mayo the county? It's Prenty the man and our board for making a mess of the Hyde that are to blame.
That Prenty is and has been trying every trick in the book to service the spiralling debt on McHale very much feeds into Sunday's game at the titular Prenty Bowl.
QuoteIt can't be over-stated how much that's going to feed into the sentiment at the weekend.
Well?
Quote from: muppet on June 14, 2013, 01:04:04 AM
Quote from: Syferus on June 14, 2013, 01:01:09 AM
Who the hell said anything about Mayo the county? It's Prenty the man and our board for making a mess of the Hyde that are to blame.
That Prenty is and has been trying every trick in the book to service the spiralling debt on McHale very much feeds into Sunday's game at the titular Prenty Bowl.
QuoteIt can't be over-stated how much that's going to feed into the sentiment at the weekend.
Well?
The non-bolded part gives you your answer, Muppet.
You're away in the clouds if you don't think Prenty's involvement and his unerring love and funding for McHale won't feed into the underdog sentiment at the weekend for us.
Quote from: Syferus on June 14, 2013, 01:07:21 AM
Quote from: muppet on June 14, 2013, 01:04:04 AM
Quote from: Syferus on June 14, 2013, 01:01:09 AM
Who the hell said anything about Mayo the county? It's Prenty the man and our board for making a mess of the Hyde that are to blame.
That Prenty is and has been trying every trick in the book to service the spiralling debt on McHale very much feeds into Sunday's game at the titular Prenty Bowl.
QuoteIt can't be over-stated how much that's going to feed into the sentiment at the weekend.
Well?
The non-bolded part gives you your answer, Muppet.
You're away in the clouds if you don't think Prenty's involvement and his unerring love and funding for McHale won't feed into the underdog sentiment at the weekend for us.
What allegations exactly are you making about Prenty?
Quote from: muppet on June 14, 2013, 01:11:25 AM
Quote from: Syferus on June 14, 2013, 01:07:21 AM
Quote from: muppet on June 14, 2013, 01:04:04 AM
Quote from: Syferus on June 14, 2013, 01:01:09 AM
Who the hell said anything about Mayo the county? It's Prenty the man and our board for making a mess of the Hyde that are to blame.
That Prenty is and has been trying every trick in the book to service the spiralling debt on McHale very much feeds into Sunday's game at the titular Prenty Bowl.
QuoteIt can't be over-stated how much that's going to feed into the sentiment at the weekend.
Well?
The non-bolded part gives you your answer, Muppet.
You're away in the clouds if you don't think Prenty's involvement and his unerring love and funding for McHale won't feed into the underdog sentiment at the weekend for us.
What allegations exactly are you making about Prenty?
Oh, so we're going down that lane, are we? Plenty of other know the situation better than me and if they want to retread Prenty's greatest hits as regards McHale and the Hyde they can.
It's a toxic combination of our board's ineptitude and Prenty's opportunism. Sligo and Leitrim have been screwed out of accessible Connacht finals to boot. More money for Mayo and Galway, exactly what the province needs.
Quote from: Syferus on June 13, 2013, 11:46:34 PM
QuoteStatement regarding Dr. Hyde Park
posted 6 hours ago by PRO Roscommon
The Management Committee of Roscommon GAA was recently informed by the Connacht Council that Dr. Hyde Park will not be considered as a venue for Connacht Senior Football Championship Finals for the foreseeable future.
We were disappointed to receive the news but can accept the reasoning due a number of the concerns contained in the "Slattery Report" which was published last year. Although a number of issues were addressed in the lead up to last year's Connacht Final some of the facilities are not considered suitable and there are a number of Health and Safety issues outstanding.
At present the venue cannot accommodate crowds in excess of 18,750 but can host other Connacht Championship games, All-Ireland qualifiers and other games with smaller attendances.
We are aware of the financial benefits that hosting the past two Connacht Finals has brought to Roscommon town and the impact on our own finances and we are doing our utmost to resolve the situation.
We are currently finalising negotiations with Roscommon Gaels to transfer control of the stadium to Roscommon County Board and once this process has reached a conclusion we will forward a plan to the Connacht Council and Central Council to seek funding for the redevelopment of the Stadium in order to bring the facilities to a standard required for hosting major games and to give the people of Roscommon a Stadium to be proud of.
It can't be over-stated how much that's going to feed into the sentiment at the weekend. That is a hugely emotive issue here. Nevermind the players, the supporters will be liable to run through a few brick walls. Prenty just added another foil to the match.
Forget about the play-acting for a second - this has really pissed me off in a way very few things can. Pathetic.
And here's me thinking all this time that you were a placid, easy-going sort of a buck.
From a supporter's point of view, it can only be good news. The Hyde isn't up to scratch, as acknowledged by Roscommon County Board themselves.
You come through the turnstiles and you have to walk across a field to get to the terrace or stand ffs. The 'seating' below the new stand is literally crumbing away to nothing, and I'm sure the media facilities aren't much better. The players have to come out from a separate dressing room building in the far corner, almost having to ask supporters to make way for them.
It's a terrible 'user experience' if you want to talk marketing language.
McHale Park and to a lesser extent Pearse Stadium are the only grounds within the province capable of hosting provincial finals that satisfy the modern-day requirements - from the point of view of supporters, media and I'm sure players as well.
On the match itself, that's a very decent Roscommon side. A lot of those players would be familiar to the Mayo players and vice versa.
So the Rossies won't start the match with any inhibitions. But you'd have to think their conditioning, speed, tackling, speed of thought would all be a fair bit behind the level Mayo are operating at.
If Mayo go at the Rossies the way they went at Galway, they should win comfortably enough in the end. I don't expect complacency from them - Horan and the entire squad seem to be very focussed on their own performances rather than relying on rivalries etc to get them up for a match.
But if for some reason they approach the game thinking the game will look after itself, the Rossies have the players and the chip on the shoulder to make it a very uncomfortable afternoon.
Mayo 3-14 Dross 1-9
Quote from: Syferus on June 14, 2013, 01:01:09 AM
Who the hell said anything about Mayo the county? It's Prenty the man and our board for making a mess of the Hyde that are to blame.
That Prenty is and has been trying every trick in the book to service the spiralling debt on McHale very much feeds into Sunday's game at the titular Prenty Bowl.
Oh, FFS, the caterwauling has started once again!
Year after year, we get assloads of it; Prenty done this or Prenty done that.
Bliain i ndiaidh bliana, gan stad gan staonadh. (Or something like that.)
Next, ye will be blaming him for closing down Roscommon Hospital or for the state of the roads in yeer god-forsaken part of the country.
Going by what I do be reading on this board, Roscommon is the second worst county in Connacht for failing to recognises it's own CB as the main source of its problems. It has to be Prenty or Jesus Christ; Finn McCool –anyone at all bar the laitchekos in charge of running the county's affairs.
Prenty didn't singlehandedly turn the Hyde into a dumping ground for second-hand sheep. Not so long ago, the Hyde was earmarked (pardon the pun) for development as the provincial venue for finals and look what happened to that proposal!
Last year, ye were going on and on about the exciting new plans to re-develop the place and make it fit for human occupation and ye're at it again this year. Can ye not do anything for yeerselves? (I'm afraid I'm slipping into Sligonian-speak here.)
BTW, can you instance one single action by Prenty to divert funds from the Hyde to McHale Park?
Still though, having the Connacht final played in Castlebar every year will help a bit with paying off the McHale park costs.
Quote from: RMDrive on June 14, 2013, 11:36:28 AM
Still though, having the Connacht final played in Castlebar every year will help a bit with paying off the McHale park costs.
That's a fair point but the Mayo Co Board (who I am no fan of) did manage to get their act together to redevelop McHale Park ( although the made a balls of it ) so it was up to a modern standard and as far as I am aware the financing was handled by the Mayo Co board with no mystic funds being magiced away from Roscommon by Prenty or anyone else! It's not a lot to ask the Ros Co Board to sort out the Hyde which would definitely make a great compact 26K or 28K stadium which would be great for non Mayo v Galway Connacht finals. Say what you like about the debt on McHale park but at least our Co board got the money and rebuilt the stadium which is now up to modern standards. Whether the correct amount of money borrowed was acquired or the best value for money was achieved are Mayo's problem as the county in Gaa terms are on the hook for the Loan with Gaa headquarters( not the Connacht Council) the people who underwrite the loans obtained by Co Boards for Capital expenditure.
While the other Connacht counties (and North Mayo + all Erris men) can certainly have a go at Prenty over the building of the centre of excellence in Bekan you can't balme him for the ineptitude of the Ros Co board over not sorting out the Hyde as personally I wouldn't have any problem going to Connacht finals in a up to standard Hyde Park.
Quote from: RMDrive on June 14, 2013, 11:36:28 AM
Still though, having the Connacht final played in Castlebar every year will help a bit with paying off the McHale park costs.
Point taken; I'm sure it is a great help but Prenty alone isn't responsible for that.
The Rossies had their chance to have the Hyde developed as the provincial and they blew it.
There are only two venues in Connacht big enough to stage Connacht finals; Castlebar and Salthill.
Granted, last year the final was played at the Hyde in Roscommon but that was because Sligo opted to play there rather than give Mayo home advantage or go to Salthill which would not suit the supporters of either county.
Luckily enough from a safety point of view; the weather was very bad that day and that kept the attendance low.
Can Leitrim not choose Hyde Park if they get to the Connacht final now?
Quote from: Farrandeelin on June 14, 2013, 01:24:02 PM
Can Leitrim not choose Hyde Park if they get to the Connacht final now?
Nope, Roscommon and Leitrim will play the Connact final in Castlebar now..........minor final that is. :P
Quote from: Tubberman on June 14, 2013, 09:16:39 AM
On the match itself, that's a very decent Roscommon side. A lot of those players would be familiar to the Mayo players and vice versa.
So the Rossies won't start the match with any inhibitions. But you'd have to think their conditioning, speed, tackling, speed of thought would all be a fair bit behind the level Mayo are operating at.
If Mayo go at the Rossies the way they went at Galway, they should win comfortably enough in the end. I don't expect complacency from them - Horan and the entire squad seem to be very focussed on their own performances rather than relying on rivalries etc to get them up for a match.
But if for some reason they approach the game thinking the game will look after itself, the Rossies have the players and the chip on the shoulder to make it a very uncomfortable afternoon.
I wonder what picture or phrase they'll put up on the Mayo dressingroom wall to get the players up to the appropriate level of giddyup for the match
Quote from: Lar Naparka on June 14, 2013, 12:31:01 PM
Quote from: RMDrive on June 14, 2013, 11:36:28 AM
Still though, having the Connacht final played in Castlebar every year will help a bit with paying off the McHale park costs.
Point taken; I'm sure it is a great help but Prenty alone isn't responsible for that.
The Rossies had their chance to have the Hyde developed as the provincial and they blew it.
There are only two venues in Connacht big enough to stage Connacht finals; Castlebar and Salthill.
Granted, last year the final was played at the Hyde in Roscommon but that was because Sligo opted to play there rather than give Mayo home advantage or go to Salthill which would not suit the supporters of either county.
Luckily enough from a safety point of view; the weather was very bad that day and that kept the attendance low.
That is a whole can of worms in itself.
3 CBs of 5 voted in favour of McHale Park , mysteriously one delegate voted against his CB mandate and The Hyde won the vote. Galway and Mayo gave it the two fingers and continued with their home and away arrangement.
QuoteGranted, last year the final was played at the Hyde in Roscommon but that was because Sligo opted to play there rather than give Mayo home advantage or go to Salthill which would not suit the supporters of either county.
Luckily enough from a safety point of view; the weather was very bad that day and that kept the attendance low.
It was a scorcher. No booze on sale either!
We've been through this a million times with the Location of the Center of Excellence in Bekan. Obviously not too many of the non Mayo posters are familiar with the Geography of the county or the condition of the roads if they think Bekan is in the heartland of Mayo football
The phrase "can't get there from here" springs to mind
To the Ros team, management and subs -
we going to stand for the insullts and the denigrations we've had to take over the last few days about how handy a win Mayowr will have?
Are we going to let McHale away with bemoaning the fact that Mayowr are suffering because no one in Connacht can give them a game?
Are we going to stand for them taking away our right to host Connacht finals?
We've put up with enough crap in recent years and now it's time to shout
STOP!!
Time to take ye're place among the heroes and give us long suffering Rossfans a bunch of lads to gladden our hearts and make the hair stand on the backs of our necks as in the days of Lindsay, Keegan, Dermot, Jigger, Tonymac, Sheerin etc etc.
Not to mention Gerry O'Malley, Aidan Brady or the men of 43/44.
Let's do it for them and for Queen Maeve, Niall of the 9 hostages, Saints Eithne and Fidelma, St Coman, St Croan, St Faithleach, St Michael, St Ronan, Ned Duffy, The O'Connor kings of Ireland, Douglas Hyde, Percy French,the 42 who died for Ireland and Freedom and of course iar- Uachtarán na hEireann herself.
Think of famous days in Castlebar like 52 , 72, 79 and 86 when Mayo's thoughts of Sam were disrupted.
Young O'Malley in goal - what a proud surname for a Roscommon footballer - Fear no rhubarb like your great namesake.
Young Collins from Castlerea - think of Harry Keegan and when faced with a rhubarb forward coming at you ask yourself " What would Harry do?"
He'd drive man and ball half way to bloody Belmullet so you do the same and ye can win the day. Carty and Seanie - do likewise.
Dalys, Keenan, Finneran, Higgins Cregg, O'Gara, Devaney, Smith, Kilbride and Mango - think of all the years of hurt we long suffering fans have had to endure.
Put it right on Sunday.
Let ye go down in history as the "RHUBARBSLAYERS" and send them home sadder and wiser to their dens of iniquity in Balla, Ballina, Ballinrobe, Belmullet, Ballyhaunis, Claremaorris etc.
And last but not least do it for Syferus and the Ballaghrossies who deserve it more than most for their steadfast faithfulness to the great cause.
UP ROSS
Quote from: Rossfan on June 14, 2013, 02:33:53 PM
To the Ros team, management and subs -
we going to stand for the insullts and the denigrations we've had to take over the last few days about how handy a win Mayowr will have?
Are we going to let McHale away with bemoaning the fact that Mayowr are suffering because no one in Connacht can give them a game?r
Are we going to stand for them taking away our right to host Connacht finals?
We've put up with enough crap in recent years and now it's time to shout
STOP!!
Time to take ye're place among the heroes and give us long suffering Rossfans a bunch of lads to gladden our hearts and make the hair stand on the backs of our necks as in the days of Lindsay, Keegan, Dermot, Jigger, Tonymac, Sheerin etc etc.
Not to mention Gerry O'Malley, Aidan Brady or the men of 43/44.
Let's do it for them and for Queen Maeve, Niall of the 9 hostages, Saints Eithne and Fidelma, St Coman, St Croan, St Faithleach, St Michael, St Ronan, Ned Duffy, The O'Connor kings of Ireland, Douglas Hyde, Percy French,the 42 who died for Ireland and Freedom and of course iar- Uachtarán na hEireann herself.
Think of famous days in Castlebar like 52 , 72, 79 and 86 when Mayo's thoughts of Sam were disrupted.
Young O'Malley in goal - what a proud surname for a Roscommon footballer - Fear no rhubarb like your great namesake.
Young Collins from Castlerea - think of Harry Keegan and when faced with a rhubarb forward coming at you ask yourself " What would Harry do?"
He'd drive man and ball half way to bloody Belmullet so you do the same and ye can win the day. Carty and Seanie - do likewise.
Dalys, Keenan, Finneran, Higgins Cregg, O'Gara, Devaney, Smith, Kilbride and Mango - think of all the years of hurt we long suffering fans have had to endure.
Put it right on Sunday.
Let ye go down in history as the "RHUBARBSLAYERS" and send them home sadder and wiser to their dens of iniquity in Balla, Ballina, Ballinrobe, Belmullet, Ballyhaunis, Claremaorris etc.
And last but not least do it for Syferus and the Ballaghrossies who deserve it more than most for their steadfast faithfulness to the great cause.
UP ROSS
And ya aren't even in the Dock -Robert Emmett would turn in the grave
Quote from: Lar Naparka on June 14, 2013, 11:04:59 AM
Last year, ye were going on and on about the exciting new plans to re-develop the place and make it fit for human occupation and ye're at it again this year. Can ye not do anything for yeerselves?
We don't have any money and can't top up our debt like the bigger counties. Low cost work like cutting the cement steps was carried out before last years final.
Quote from: Tubberman on June 14, 2013, 08:51:25 AM
From a supporter's point of view, it can only be good news. The Hyde isn't up to scratch, as acknowledged by Roscommon County Board themselves.
You come through the turnstiles and you have to walk across a field to get to the terrace or stand ffs. The 'seating' below the new stand is literally crumbing away to nothing, and I'm sure the media facilities aren't much better. The players have to come out from a separate dressing room building in the far corner, almost having to ask supporters to make way for them.
It's a terrible 'user experience' if you want to talk marketing language.
McHale Park and to a lesser extent Pearse Stadium are the only grounds within the province capable of hosting provincial finals that satisfy the modern-day requirements - from the point of view of supporters, media and I'm sure players as well.
Hyde park doesn't have the facilities of the newer grounds but it was still more than capable of hosting Connacht final as the last two years has proved. You don't have to walk across the field as you also have the option of the footpath.
Quote from: Lar Naparka on June 14, 2013, 12:31:01 PM
The Rossies had their chance to have the Hyde developed as the provincial and they blew it.
There are only two venues in Connacht big enough to stage Connacht finals; Castlebar and Salthill.
Granted, last year the final was played at the Hyde in Roscommon but that was because Sligo opted to play there rather than give Mayo home advantage or go to Salthill which would not suit the supporters of either county.
Luckily enough from a safety point of view; the weather was very bad that day and that kept the attendance low.
Yes over 20 years ago Hyde park was developed, remember we had grassy hills & a small stand. Galway,Mayo then developed their own grounds to make sure the Hyde didn't become the Clones of Connacht.
It's been agreed many years ago that Sligo,Leitrim would have a neutral venue for Connacht finals, the Mayo heads did talk up McHale park as possible venue but the only choices was Roscommon or Salthill.
Was close to 25,000 at last years final and weatherwise it was one of the best days we had last summer.
Quote from: RMDrive on June 14, 2013, 11:36:28 AM
Still though, having the Connacht final played in Castlebar every year will help a bit with paying off the McHale park costs.
Whenever it's Ros v Mayo final now it will be played in Salthill and Leitrim,Sligo would still have the choice of two venues.
This is going to backfire on the Bekan honchos. The Hyde will end up being redeveloped and probably with more provincial backing when they start seeing Connacht final receipts.
Quote from: Syferus on June 14, 2013, 03:54:55 PM
This is going to backfire on the Bekan honchos. The Hyde will end up being redeveloped and probably with more provincial backing when they start seeing Connacht final receipts.
You think LESS people will attend Connacht Finals because they're not in Hyde Park??
Any Finals involving Ros, Sligo and Leitrim will mean less of the bandwagon hoppers going to Salthill.
Regular supporters might look down their noses at them but their money is as good as ours and its loss will be felt in the corridors of Ballyhaunis and indeed the wider Connacht GAA community.
Not sure who the gripe is with here as regards this decision on hyde park, you say it's prenty then in the same breath you say it's a motivating factor for Sunday, ffs lol.
McHale park is the best ground in the west, it should be used for all finals, it's a better town in fairness too.
Some lovely posts there from the Rossies, the poetry ones are lovely, it had the hair on my arms standing to attention reading them, such a massive footballing county and it has such iconic people who have hailed from a truly wonderful county.
God bless Roscommon.
Quote from: larryin89 on June 14, 2013, 05:07:03 PM
Not sure who the gripe is with here as regards this decision on hyde park, you say it's prenty then in the same breath you say it's a motivating factor for Sunday, ffs lol.
McHale park is the best ground in the west, it should be used for all finals, it's a better town in fairness too.
Some lovely posts there from the Rossies, the poetry ones are lovely, it had the hair on my arms standing to attention reading them, such a massive footballing county and it has such iconic people who have hailed from a truly wonderful county.
God bless Roscommon.
Pearse is easily a better stadium than McHale. The only problem is it's built in Salthill.
Hyde4Connacht.
Quote from: Syferus on June 14, 2013, 06:10:32 PM
Quote from: larryin89 on June 14, 2013, 05:07:03 PM
Not sure who the gripe is with here as regards this decision on hyde park, you say it's prenty then in the same breath you say it's a motivating factor for Sunday, ffs lol.
McHale park is the best ground in the west, it should be used for all finals, it's a better town in fairness too.
Some lovely posts there from the Rossies, the poetry ones are lovely, it had the hair on my arms standing to attention reading them, such a massive footballing county and it has such iconic people who have hailed from a truly wonderful county.
God bless Roscommon.
Pearse is easily a better stadium than McHale. The only problem is it's built in Salthill.
Hyde4Connacht.
Pearse stadium is the only stadium i hear Mayo people saying, ''ahh fook i'm not going, it's a nightmare to get out of''
Quote from: seafoid on June 14, 2013, 01:46:44 PM
Quote from: Tubberman on June 14, 2013, 09:16:39 AM
On the match itself, that's a very decent Roscommon side. A lot of those players would be familiar to the Mayo players and vice versa.
So the Rossies won't start the match with any inhibitions. But you'd have to think their conditioning, speed, tackling, speed of thought would all be a fair bit behind the level Mayo are operating at.
If Mayo go at the Rossies the way they went at Galway, they should win comfortably enough in the end. I don't expect complacency from them - Horan and the entire squad seem to be very focussed on their own performances rather than relying on rivalries etc to get them up for a match.
But if for some reason they approach the game thinking the game will look after itself, the Rossies have the players and the chip on the shoulder to make it a very uncomfortable afternoon.
I wonder what picture or phrase they'll put up on the Mayo dressingroom wall to get the players up to the appropriate level of giddyup for the match
God you are very caught up on this? This tactic is as old as the hills!
Quote from: Syferus on June 14, 2013, 06:10:32 PM
Pearse is easily a better stadium than McHale. The only problem is it's built in Salthill.
Eh?? Have you ever been to Pearse?? It's a rubbish stadium, standing only on three sides of the pitch - not much use for older people and anyone with kids.
The Rossies need to spend a few quid on the Hyde if they want it to be used for Connacht finals, if ye're not willing to do that then quit whinging. And if the Roscommon footballers need to use something like this as motivation then they can throw their hat at it right now.
Quote from: From the Bunker on June 14, 2013, 06:51:00 PM
Quote from: seafoid on June 14, 2013, 01:46:44 PM
Quote from: Tubberman on June 14, 2013, 09:16:39 AM
On the match itself, that's a very decent Roscommon side. A lot of those players would be familiar to the Mayo players and vice versa.
So the Rossies won't start the match with any inhibitions. But you'd have to think their conditioning, speed, tackling, speed of thought would all be a fair bit behind the level Mayo are operating at.
If Mayo go at the Rossies the way they went at Galway, they should win comfortably enough in the end. I don't expect complacency from them - Horan and the entire squad seem to be very focussed on their own performances rather than relying on rivalries etc to get them up for a match.
But if for some reason they approach the game thinking the game will look after itself, the Rossies have the players and the chip on the shoulder to make it a very uncomfortable afternoon.
I wonder what picture or phrase they'll put up on the Mayo dressingroom wall to get the players up to the appropriate level of giddyup for the match
God you are very caught up on this? This tactic is as old as the hills!
Will you tell him or shall I?
It's gonna be the same routine as always whenever the sheepophiles come calling.
There'll be a dartboard on the wall with a sheep's face/arse stuck on it and the lads will pass the time knocking up 180s while waiting for the kettle to boil.
Quote from: macdanger2 on June 14, 2013, 07:06:37 PM
Quote from: Syferus on June 14, 2013, 06:10:32 PM
Pearse is easily a better stadium than McHale. The only problem is it's built in Salthill.
Eh?? Have you ever been to Pearse?? It's a rubbish stadium, standing only on three sides of the pitch - not much use for older people and anyone with kids.
I've been to loads of grounds around the country and Pearse is undoubtably one of the best (apart from it's horrendous traffic problem). Only one covered stand but it almost holds 10,000. Not many occasions when you would require more than that. Building anything bigger would just be a vanity project. Even the toilet facilities are vastly superior to the vast majority of grounds in the country. Always a pet peeve of mine as in most grounds the standard of jacks is abysmal.
Anyway, back to the football.......
Not sure I'd share the confidence of some on here in relation to Feeney. I think he's a good player and will do a decent job foraging but I've never seen anything in him to think of him as a player with great vision - you can be as good as you like at passing but if you can't spot the pass then it's no good. Personally, I'd like to try Vaughan in the half forward line, not as a playmaker but as the player who drops back into defence but is free to burst forward without leaving a gaping hole.
Overall, our forward line still looks light enough, Freeman in particular still has a lot to prove. Varley was v good the last day but will surely be under more pressure on Sunday.
I expect Mayo to win midfield - Finneran / Higgins / Mannion won't be good enough to cope with the two O'Ses - and based on that along with higher levels of fitness & intensity, we should win the game. I predict Roscommon will start well and lead up to around half time with Mayo pulling them back in the second half and winning by 3.
DB was on newstalk last night, didn't seem to be too gone on Evans - said something along the lines of him being in it for his own good rather than the good of Roscommon football, not sure if that was in relation to being paid or what?? Seemed a bit odd to me, would have thought Evans was a decent enough fella. Cian Ward had nothing but praise for him after being involved with the dirty meathies last year.
Quote from: larryin89 on June 14, 2013, 06:35:32 PM
Quote from: Syferus on June 14, 2013, 06:10:32 PM
Quote from: larryin89 on June 14, 2013, 05:07:03 PM
Not sure who the gripe is with here as regards this decision on hyde park, you say it's prenty then in the same breath you say it's a motivating factor for Sunday, ffs lol.
McHale park is the best ground in the west, it should be used for all finals, it's a better town in fairness too.
Some lovely posts there from the Rossies, the poetry ones are lovely, it had the hair on my arms standing to attention reading them, such a massive footballing county and it has such iconic people who have hailed from a truly wonderful county.
God bless Roscommon.
Pearse is easily a better stadium than McHale. The only problem is it's built in Salthill.
Hyde4Connacht.
Pearse stadium is the only stadium i hear Mayo people saying, ''ahh fook i'm not going, it's a nightmare to get out of''
when the CF clashed with the air show in Salthill a couple of years ago, I heard of people turning back for home after 3 hours on the road. I did hear it on the Tommy Marren Show, so I can't vouch for whether its true or not
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on June 14, 2013, 07:14:33 PM
Quote from: macdanger2 on June 14, 2013, 07:06:37 PM
Quote from: Syferus on June 14, 2013, 06:10:32 PM
Pearse is easily a better stadium than McHale. The only problem is it's built in Salthill.
Eh?? Have you ever been to Pearse?? It's a rubbish stadium, standing only on three sides of the pitch - not much use for older people and anyone with kids.
I've been to loads of grounds around the country and Pearse is undoubtably one of the best (apart from it's horrendous traffic problem). Only one covered stand but it almost holds 10,000. Not many occasions when you would require more than that. Building anything bigger would just be a vanity project. Even the toilet facilities are vastly superior to the vast majority of grounds in the country. Always a pet peeve of mine as in most grounds the standard of jacks is abysmal.
Lack of seats of any kind on the far side of the pitch is a pain in the hole though
Some day on here ;). The weekend's game is now only a mere sideshow as the Rossies want the every single Connacht final from now till eternity played in the Hyde. While I agree the stand in McHale Park is too big, it is however a fine stadium to hold a final in. Pity the bloody poles are there though.
Quote from: macdanger2 on June 14, 2013, 07:23:27 PM
Anyway, back to the football.......
Not sure I'd share the confidence of some on here in relation to Feeney. I think he's a good player and will do a decent job foraging but I've never seen anything in him to think of him as a player with great vision - you can be as good as you like at passing but if you can't spot the pass then it's no good. Personally, I'd like to try Vaughan in the half forward line, not as a playmaker but as the player who drops back into defence but is free to burst forward without leaving a gaping hole.
Overall, our forward line still looks light enough, Freeman in particular still has a lot to prove. Varley was v good the last day but will surely be under more pressure on Sunday.
I expect Mayo to win midfield - Finneran / Higgins / Mannion won't be good enough to cope with the two O'Ses - and based on that along with higher levels of fitness & intensity, we should win the game. I predict Roscommon will start well and lead up to around half time with Mayo pulling them back in the second half and winning by 3.
DB was on newstalk last night, didn't seem to be too gone on Evans - said something along the lines of him being in it for his own good rather than the good of Roscommon football, not sure if that was in relation to being paid or what?? Seemed a bit odd to me, would have thought Evans was a decent enough fella. Cian Ward had nothing but praise for him after being involved with the dirty meathies last year.
We have been down that sorta road in the past when we used Colm Mc Menamin in a similar role. It worked and it did not work. Colm won loads of possession but was absolutely lost how to distribute it when he had it. Vaughan is a similar sort of player and I'd see the same result.
Quote from: macdanger2 on June 14, 2013, 07:23:27 PM
DB was on newstalk last night, didn't seem to be too gone on Evans - said something along the lines of him being in it for his own good rather than the good of Roscommon football, not sure if that was in relation to being paid or what?? Seemed a bit odd to me, would have thought Evans was a decent enough fella. Cian Ward had nothing but praise for him after being involved with the dirty meathies last year.
Not the first time he did that http://www.thescore.ie/david-brady-labels-meath-coach-john-evans-a-mercenary-after-tipp-departure-466965-May2012/
Poor form from Brady.
Quote from: From the Bunker on June 14, 2013, 08:15:25 PM
We have been down that sorta road in the past when we used Colm Mc Menamin in a similar role. It worked and it did not work. Colm won loads of possession but was absolutely lost how to distribute it when he had it. Vaughan is a similar sort of player and I'd see the same result.
Jaysus, Vaughan may not be the greatest passer in the world but he's able to take his score a hell of a lot better than Colm Mac was
Evans likes a microphone but the man has serious passion for football. He's getting his expenses for his travel, sure, but if money was his big concern there's plenty of better ways than doing a 560KM round trips a few times every week.
Really shite stuff from Brady, Evans has a very good record overall and deserves more respect from someone who should know the work managers put in better than most. From what I heard Evans left Tipp before he was pushed. It's not like he didn't give them plenty over many years.
The difference between how happy the camp is this year and last is night and day and a huge amount of that is down to Evans. Win or lose on Sunday he has us going in the right direction again.
Quote from: macdanger2 on June 14, 2013, 08:34:01 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on June 14, 2013, 08:15:25 PM
We have been down that sorta road in the past when we used Colm Mc Menamin in a similar role. It worked and it did not work. Colm won loads of possession but was absolutely lost how to distribute it when he had it. Vaughan is a similar sort of player and I'd see the same result.
Jaysus, Vaughan may not be the greatest passer in the world but he's able to take his score a hell of a lot better than Colm Mac was
Not going to go down the road of talking up or talking down the offensive merits of Donal or Colm (both are/were truly committed footballers). Both are/were fine athletes and similar in physique. Anyway i feel McLoughlin does the role you are talking about.
Quote from: macdanger2 on June 14, 2013, 07:23:27 PM
Anyway, back to the football.......
Not sure I'd share the confidence of some on here in relation to Feeney. I think he's a good player and will do a decent job foraging but I've never seen anything in him to think of him as a player with great vision - you can be as good as you like at passing but if you can't spot the pass then it's no good. Personally, I'd like to try Vaughan in the half forward line, not as a playmaker but as the player who drops back into defence but is free to burst forward without leaving a gaping hole.
Overall, our forward line still looks light enough, Freeman in particular still has a lot to prove. Varley was v good the last day but will surely be under more pressure on Sunday.
I expect Mayo to win midfield - Finneran / Higgins / Mannion won't be good enough to cope with the two O'Ses - and based on that along with higher levels of fitness & intensity, we should win the game. I predict Roscommon will start well and lead up to around half time with Mayo pulling them back in the second half and winning by 3.
DB was on newstalk last night, didn't seem to be too gone on Evans - said something along the lines of him being in it for his own good rather than the good of Roscommon football, not sure if that was in relation to being paid or what?? Seemed a bit odd to me, would have thought Evans was a decent enough fella. Cian Ward had nothing but praise for him after being involved with the dirty meathies last year.
I would agree to point, Richie was tried at 11 in the league without much success if I can recall. To me, Richie played his best football off the bench last year. Quietly effective is how I'd class him, great engine, gets on a lot of breaking ball, does the simple things well and can take a score. But not sure if he can provide the distribution and link play required at 11.
Am expecting a win Sunday, it won't be by the cricket score being bandied about but a 5-6 point margin wouldn't surprise me. Roscommon will be well up for it, will provide more of a physical challenge than Galway and have the potential to cause us problems in some positions on the pitch. However I don't think they have the quality throughout the rest of the field to sustain the challenge for the full 70 as long as we play to the level of performance we're capable of.
Ffs this thread is approaching meltdown!
No matter, the match will have a mind of its own.
I ve seen enough of these Ros v Mayo matches. Ros ruined many a summer for me and that old folk memory doesn t go away. I d take nothing for granted.
As regards Feeney? Deserves his game. He is no number 11 in the old accepted role. Comparisons with Colm Mac are not relevant imo. Feeney will get around the field but we wont leave the hole around the forty for the opposition to lord. No fault of Colm Mac but it could be argued that giving the opposition 6 a free role cost us 2 AIs in the 90s. We ve been through all that before. More likely now likes of Dillon will drop off and fill and exploit that space.
Feeney deserves his spot but he was brilliant as an impact - full of energy and drive. I suspect Andy s return to fitness abd able to come in and make an impact has influenced this selection. There must have been a temptation to start Andy after his performance against Cavan but I think management have done the right thing. Andy will be be a lift when he comes in and we have - hopefully - other big hitters on the bench like Barry Moran and James Burke.
Andy can't start because he's lining up a dramatic match-day switch to Ros. Your Da will be estatic, Andy!!
Quote from: Syferus on June 15, 2013, 01:56:57 AM
Andy can't start because he's lining up a dramatic match-day switch to Ros. Your Da will be estatic, Andy!!
Nearly 2am in the morning post, you just land in from Creatons?
Quote from: larryin89 on June 15, 2013, 09:51:03 AM
Quote from: Syferus on June 15, 2013, 01:56:57 AM
Andy can't start because he's lining up a dramatic match-day switch to Ros. Your Da will be estatic, Andy!!
Nearly 2am in the morning post, you just land in from Creatons?
You're right Larry; poor Syf is letting the nerves get the better of him. Either that or he spent too much time in Durkin's or maybe Molly's before he attacked his keyboard one again.
He certainly is fixated on Ballagh and some (one?) of its inhabitants.
Not to worry; the day is almost upon us and the time for fantasying is over. Roscommon's late entry into the championship may tell against them. I expect Mayo to win but they'd need to do so with a few to spare if they are to be considered as serious AI contenders.
That's often easier said than done.
A five plus gap at the end would leave me purring nicely; I'd be satisfied with a three or four and I'd take a one or two and be damned glad to do so if need be.
John Evans is the unknown factor coming into the game.
If he can get the best out of his team, Mayo could have a real fight on their hands.
Unlike his immediate predecessors, he is an outsider and should be unaffected by the internal wrangling that seems to be going on within the county and has been doing so for some considerable time.
He has quite a few players with real potential and if he can get them to click, Mayo could have a fight on their hands.
The head says this game is a year too early for us to be expecting a win and once we give a good spirited typical traditional Ros performance and see where it takes us we'll be content enough and in good stead for the qualifiers.
Arrah fcuk the head - the heart says we'll get the bounce of the ball and we'll run the Mayowr bucks off their feet and we'll add 2013 to our many famous days in Castlebar.
Just do it lads !!!
Quote from: Rossfan on June 15, 2013, 12:00:26 PM
The head says this game is a year too early for us to be expecting a win and once we give a good spirited typical traditional Ros performance and see where it takes us we'll be content enough and in good stead for the qualifiers.
Arrah fcuk the head - the heart says we'll get the bounce of the ball and we'll run the Mayowr bucks off their feet and we'll add 2013 to our many famous days in Castlebar.
Just do it lads !!!
ya might have had famous days in Castlebar .....but not many in McHale park! ;)
Roscommon last Competitive game was the 7th April (nine weeks ago). Mayo have had two games since. The League semi final versus Dublin on the 14th April and Galway on May 19th. Nicely spread out competitive game time. How quickly Roscommon deal with the initial heat of battle in Castlebar will determine the game. Early exchanges will be important and the rustiness of such a break in Competitive games can be a hindrance to a good start. There is allot of cockiness among the Mayo support (some justified). If this has seeped into the psyche of the players we could have a tough assignment on our hands. I'd expect no complacency from Mayo, most will have remembered the tough game two years ago in Hyde park where we squeezed out by 2 points. The day is not promised to good. This I feel could be of advantage to Roscommon. Anyway looking forward to tomorrow, to a good game (I sincerely hope for a good old fashioned Championship game), and may the best team win!
The talking and discussion is nearly over and time for a realistic look at this match.
I can't see us conceding a goal against Ros and we are likely to score 3. Senan Kilbride willl be man marked in a similar fashion to Meehan. He is no good when this tactic is deployed against him so expect to see his usual head dropping at county level.
Realistically we will score between 12 and 18 points. So our full time score should be around 2 - 14.
Ros aren't capable of scoring more than 14 points against any side. Against an in form Mayo I would say they will be lucky to get to the 10 mark.
Any realistic hope of a close game for Ros fans are purely hopeful fantasy.
Mayo to win and win pulling up. 2-14 to 9 points.
Good on ya Highhorlow.
The excitement is starting to really kick in now, no reason for a fook up here at all. Get into them Mayo, let them know who they're up against, no prisoners.
Quote from: highorlow on June 15, 2013, 01:55:05 PM
The talking and discussion is nearly over and time for a realistic look at this match.
I can't see us conceding a goal against Ros and we are likely to score 3. Senan Kilbride willl be man marked in a similar fashion to Meehan. He is no good when this tactic is deployed against him so expect to see his usual head dropping at county level.
Realistically we will score between 12 and 18 points. So our full time score should be around 2 - 14.
Ros aren't capable of scoring more than 14 points against any side. Against an in form Mayo I would say they will be lucky to get to the 10 mark.
Any realistic hope of a close game for Ros fans are purely hopeful fantasy.
Mayo to win and win pulling up. 2-14 to 9 points.
You're usually a decent poster but that there is pure fuel for any Roscommon man. Respect should be shown as we all know damn well these Rossies are capable of an upset. We've seen it before.
Jaysus some of the Mayo bucks are getting fierce cocky. Dare I say it but a couple may be losing the run of themselves. ;D
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on June 15, 2013, 02:40:34 PM
Jaysus some of the Mayo bucks are getting fierce cocky. Dare I say it but a couple may be losing the run of themselves. ;D
They'd nearly have me wishing we were brought down to earth... fck sake, have ye been on the beer all week or something?
Quote from: Tubberman on June 15, 2013, 02:49:14 PM
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on June 15, 2013, 02:40:34 PM
Jaysus some of the Mayo bucks are getting fierce cocky. Dare I say it but a couple may be losing the run of themselves. ;D
They'd nearly have me wishing we were brought down to earth... fck sake, have ye been on the beer all week or something?
+1
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on June 15, 2013, 02:40:34 PM
Jaysus some of the Mayo bucks are getting fierce cocky. Dare I say it but a couple may be losing the run of themselves. ;D
Aye it does seem that way but you have to allow for the fact that out of the two main culprits on here (not including highorlow) , one is a creation a fairly prominent Gaa board poster from one of our neighbouring counties ( along with 30 or so odd inane and insulting comments he/she put up on Mayo Gaa Blog this week) and the other, a Hoganstand veteran , is obnoxious enough most of the time but especially vicious towards anything to do with Roscommon. What worries me is the one or two real people I have met this week who would be seen at most league and championship Mayo games I heard talking about O'Connor and Conroy being available forthe quarter final.Now while we are rightly favourites and 3 or 4 point margin seems about right but the Rossies have taken great joy in pushing us aside at underage level with ease for the last 6 years or so, which should have them primed to dropkick any cockiness/complacency back in our faces :o.
Quote from: highorlow on June 15, 2013, 01:55:05 PM
The talking and discussion is nearly over and time for a realistic look at this match.
I can't see us conceding a goal against Ros and we are likely to score 3. Senan Kilbride willl be man marked in a similar fashion to Meehan. He is no good when this tactic is deployed against him so expect to see his usual head dropping at county level.
Realistically we will score between 12 and 18 points. So our full time score should be around 2 - 14.
Ros aren't capable of scoring more than 14 points against any side. Against an in form Mayo I would say they will be lucky to get to the 10 mark.
Any realistic hope of a close game for Ros fans are purely hopeful fantasy.
Mayo to win and win pulling up. 2-14 to 9 points.
Okay well first of all I find your arrogance to be simply baffling. Fair enough Mayo are a Division one side and genuine All Ireland contenders against a mid-table division 3 side and deserve to be favourites, however some of the points you have made are purely ludicrous. If the right ball is played into Senan he is practically unplayable and no one in that Mayo full back line will stop him as they generally struggle with high balls, unless that is of course they are like the aimless ones Galway played into Meehan. So I really don't know how you came up with the idea that if Senan is man marked then he will be no good. :P Bit of a rant there but honestly the arrogance of
some Mayo posters is just ridiculous. I expect us to put up a decent challenge but Mayo should pull out in the end, just not by the margin expected by some supporters.
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on June 15, 2013, 02:40:34 PM
Jaysus some of the Mayo bucks are getting fierce cocky. Dare I say it but a couple may be losing the run of themselves. ;D
Has been like that for the best part of 20 years now, they don't see us as challenge anymore why should they? the thing is it's not just a win they all expect but 10+ point win they expect & if they don't get it watch the poor mouth return.
Anyways it's been a ridiculous long wait for championship game our last competitive game was against Monaghan in March (game against Cavans 2nd string doesn't count) win lose or draw hopefully tomorrow is the first of many championship games for us this summer. The very best of luck to Gay,Wally,John and all the players.
Quote from: ross4life on June 15, 2013, 05:04:41 PM
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on June 15, 2013, 02:40:34 PM
Jaysus some of the Mayo bucks are getting fierce cocky. Dare I say it but a couple may be losing the run of themselves. ;D
Has been like that for the best part of 20 years now, they don't see us as challenge anymore why should they? the thing is it's not just a win they all expect but 10+ point win they expect & if they don't get it watch the poor mouth return.
Anyways it's been a ridiculous long wait for championship game our last competitive game was against Monaghan in March (game against Cavans 2nd string doesn't count) win lose or draw hopefully tomorrow is the first of many championship games for us this summer. The very best of luck to Gay,Wally,John and all the players.
I don't really get your point! You say we are cocky on the one hand for expecting a win at home and then agree that you haven't really challenged Mayo at senior level in for the best part of 20 yrs. Only the fair weather fans and fake Mayo fan accounts have been expecting a 10+ point win. If you read the posts of normal Mayo contributors on here the majority of them have not being giving the poor mouth but expect a battle with Mayo coming out with 3 or 4 points to spare. I would be very surprised (even if the Rossies are below par) if we win by more than 3 or 4 points!
Although to be honest with some of the good old begrudery comments from a tiny but loud minority of Rossies on here I would love a hammering like there was in 2009 but it ain't going to happen despite the proclamations form these mysterious newbie Mayo accounts popping up here in the run up to this match ;)
So here is a bold prediction for you poor tread upon Roscommon men form the big mean county of Mayo , Mayo to edge out a thriller by 3 point win ( the margin coming via a goal from Andy) with Ross getting stuck in at the off and leading at halftime so any you gamblers on here that's the bet for the weekend 8)
Quote from: Crete Boom on June 15, 2013, 05:47:17 PM
Quote from: ross4life on June 15, 2013, 05:04:41 PM
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on June 15, 2013, 02:40:34 PM
Jaysus some of the Mayo bucks are getting fierce cocky. Dare I say it but a couple may be losing the run of themselves. ;D
Has been like that for the best part of 20 years now, they don't see us as challenge anymore why should they? the thing is it's not just a win they all expect but 10+ point win they expect & if they don't get it watch the poor mouth return.
Anyways it's been a ridiculous long wait for championship game our last competitive game was against Monaghan in March (game against Cavans 2nd string doesn't count) win lose or draw hopefully tomorrow is the first of many championship games for us this summer. The very best of luck to Gay,Wally,John and all the players.
I don't really get your point! You say we are cocky on the one hand for expecting a win at home and then agree that you haven't really challenged Mayo at senior level in for the best part of 20 yrs. Only the fair weather fans and fake Mayo fan accounts have been expecting a 10+ point win. If you read the posts of normal Mayo contributors on here the majority of them have not being giving the poor mouth but expect a battle with Mayo coming out with 3 or 4 points to spare. I would be very surprised (even if the Rossies are below par) if we win by more than 3 or 4 points!
Although to be honest with some of the good old begrudery comments from a tiny but loud minority of Rossies on here I would love a hammering like there was in 2009 but it ain't going to happen despite the proclamations form these mysterious newbie Mayo accounts popping up here in the run up to this match ;)
So here is a bold prediction for you poor tread upon Roscommon men form the big mean county of Mayo , Mayo to edge out a thriller by 3 point win ( the margin coming via a goal from Andy) with Ross getting stuck in at the off and leading at halftime so any you gamblers on here that's the bet for the weekend 8)
So basically you're calling larryin and highorlow, among others, Ros sleeper agents?
Alright lads, you've been rumbled - time to return to the mothership.
Quote from: Syferus on June 15, 2013, 05:54:04 PM
Quote from: Crete Boom on June 15, 2013, 05:47:17 PM
Quote from: ross4life on June 15, 2013, 05:04:41 PM
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on June 15, 2013, 02:40:34 PM
Jaysus some of the Mayo bucks are getting fierce cocky. Dare I say it but a couple may be losing the run of themselves. ;D
Has been like that for the best part of 20 years now, they don't see us as challenge anymore why should they? the thing is it's not just a win they all expect but 10+ point win they expect & if they don't get it watch the poor mouth return.
Anyways it's been a ridiculous long wait for championship game our last competitive game was against Monaghan in March (game against Cavans 2nd string doesn't count) win lose or draw hopefully tomorrow is the first of many championship games for us this summer. The very best of luck to Gay,Wally,John and all the players.
I don't really get your point! You say we are cocky on the one hand for expecting a win at home and then agree that you haven't really challenged Mayo at senior level in for the best part of 20 yrs. Only the fair weather fans and fake Mayo fan accounts have been expecting a 10+ point win. If you read the posts of normal Mayo contributors on here the majority of them have not being giving the poor mouth but expect a battle with Mayo coming out with 3 or 4 points to spare. I would be very surprised (even if the Rossies are below par) if we win by more than 3 or 4 points!
Although to be honest with some of the good old begrudery comments from a tiny but loud minority of Rossies on here I would love a hammering like there was in 2009 but it ain't going to happen despite the proclamations form these mysterious newbie Mayo accounts popping up here in the run up to this match ;)
So here is a bold prediction for you poor tread upon Roscommon men form the big mean county of Mayo , Mayo to edge out a thriller by 3 point win ( the margin coming via a goal from Andy) with Ross getting stuck in at the off and leading at halftime so any you gamblers on here that's the bet for the weekend 8)
So basically you're calling larrin and highorlow, among others, Ros sleeper agents?
Alright lads, you've been rumbled - time to return to the mothership.
I think maybe you should spend a little less time posting and a little more time reading and you would see I specifically mentioned I didn't think highorlow was a fake account.
Fair play to highorlow for calling it as it is. Fed up of hearing Mayo people dreeshing on about how close they expect it to be and how Connacht is full of hard challenges for them. The reality is that If they played 20 times, Roscommon might win once. Hope the Roscommon lads horse into it and make this the one time in 20 - don't expect they will but I'll be in McHale park just in case they do. Mayo's sights are set on Sam and barring an off-day of epic proportions will win by 8-10.
Quote from: Crete Boom on June 15, 2013, 05:59:02 PM
Quote from: Syferus on June 15, 2013, 05:54:04 PM
Quote from: Crete Boom on June 15, 2013, 05:47:17 PM
Quote from: ross4life on June 15, 2013, 05:04:41 PM
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on June 15, 2013, 02:40:34 PM
Jaysus some of the Mayo bucks are getting fierce cocky. Dare I say it but a couple may be losing the run of themselves. ;D
Has been like that for the best part of 20 years now, they don't see us as challenge anymore why should they? the thing is it's not just a win they all expect but 10+ point win they expect & if they don't get it watch the poor mouth return.
Anyways it's been a ridiculous long wait for championship game our last competitive game was against Monaghan in March (game against Cavans 2nd string doesn't count) win lose or draw hopefully tomorrow is the first of many championship games for us this summer. The very best of luck to Gay,Wally,John and all the players.
I don't really get your point! You say we are cocky on the one hand for expecting a win at home and then agree that you haven't really challenged Mayo at senior level in for the best part of 20 yrs. Only the fair weather fans and fake Mayo fan accounts have been expecting a 10+ point win. If you read the posts of normal Mayo contributors on here the majority of them have not being giving the poor mouth but expect a battle with Mayo coming out with 3 or 4 points to spare. I would be very surprised (even if the Rossies are below par) if we win by more than 3 or 4 points!
Although to be honest with some of the good old begrudery comments from a tiny but loud minority of Rossies on here I would love a hammering like there was in 2009 but it ain't going to happen despite the proclamations form these mysterious newbie Mayo accounts popping up here in the run up to this match ;)
So here is a bold prediction for you poor tread upon Roscommon men form the big mean county of Mayo , Mayo to edge out a thriller by 3 point win ( the margin coming via a goal from Andy) with Ross getting stuck in at the off and leading at halftime so any you gamblers on here that's the bet for the weekend 8)
So basically you're calling larrin and highorlow, among others, Ros sleeper agents?
Alright lads, you've been rumbled - time to return to the mothership.
I think maybe you should spend a little less time posting and a little more time reading and you would see I specifically mentioned I didn't think highorlow was a fake account.
So just poor larryin, then? Who exactly are these mysterious Ros sleepers you're talking about?
And why is there so many of them everywhere voicing beliefs in an easy landslide win? You'd almost be fooled into believing they were, y'know, just Mayo supporters.
I'm seriously proud of our lads for pulling off such a massive stroke.
Not getting this at all? What am i supposed to be, an undercover Rossie pretending to be a Mayo man?
The internet is gas.
A friend of a friend is getting very excited about the up coming match, his facebook posts this week i think warrant sharing....enjoy!!!
Day 1:
- with the All-Ireland championship only starting in earnest next weekend when the big boys, like Roscommon, get their first taste of championship action....here is some interesting and relevant facts:
ROSCOMMON is the 44507th most popular name in USA, One in every 702,203 Americans is named ROSCOMMON and popularity of name ROSCOMMON is 1.42 people per million.
Lough Key has 32 islands, some of the more famous names include bullock island and Ros for Sam
Nostradamus came to fame, not after predicting the French revolution, but after predicting Roscommon would win back to back all-Irelands in 43 and 44, this prediction was disbelieved by millions, as many thought roscommon would have won the finals in 40,41 and 42 before this...but the wily old Nostradamus knew best.
Roscommon doesn't have a coast line...just great footballers
The entire population of the world could fit in Roscommon standing up... if this were to happen tho, they would lose a football game of rossies against the rest..
The popular song "Guns don't kill people, rappers do", was plagiarised from the inscription found on the Castlestrange Stone, found outside Athleague dated 200BC..which when translated stats "Guns don't kill people, Rossies do" and lead to Oliver Cromwell's fear of entering Connaught during his invasion of Ireland.
The 43 and 44 teams were all pioneering bakers, and invented sliced bread, the saying "the greatest thing since sliced bread" is a tip of the cap to that magnificent Roscommon team.
Donald Trump draws the dole in Roscommon
Black beauty is the ugliest and whitest horse in Roscommon
It was the Roscommon full back line that stopped the gulf war in '91, not the yanks
Day 2:
I have logged onto Facebook today, and have been shocked at what I found!! Please, can any faint-hearted people or those who have not got their turf cut during the dry spell (You have enough on your plate) do not read on, but what I found was this.... people are updating profiles, tagging pictures, posting posts, etc....literally millions of people, MILLIONS! Carrying out these normal routines, these everyday Facebook activities, as if in denial, as if by not acknowledging the elephant in the room and completely ignoring the fact that the Rossies are taking part in the Connaught semi-final on Sunday, it might simply.....just not happen...I realise people take comfort from not thinking about us in the championship, that a clearer path to victory presents itself for their county, if they just don't think about Roscommon and the "great bunch of lads" playing for them as a stumbling block...But people, the sooner you face up to us the better, we are a reality, we are remarkable, we are ready, WE ARE ROS....
Day 3:
OK Folks, a recent survey on who neutrals are going for on Sunday, has shown 3 people in China and a further 2 in Trinidad and Tobago are "undecided", everyone else is on the Rossies! To those Five I say, look at the facts below and see what Roscommon has contributed to the world and culture as they know it and then tell me they are still undecided!!
- The river Shannon, is a man-made river, it was constructed by the other 31 counties in a last ditch effort to stop Roscommon getting to Croke Park on the 3rd Sunday in September....all efforts on the football pitch had failed....Roscommon then invented boats and bridges and brought Sam Maguire home...
New grange was built to let the dead inside know when Roscommon had begun pre-season training.
The great barrier reef was created when Jimmy Murray took a pee in the sea...before this, it was just a sandy bottom to the ocean.
The Wachowski brothers made "The Matrix" to try and capture the transformation that happens an ordinary man, when he puts on a Roscommon jersey on Championship day.......James Cameron also tried to represent this phenomenon, with the recent Avatar movie, however, he went more literal in his approach with the colour of the avatar, but ultimately missed the mark.
After watching Roscommon beat Mayo, Bill Gates was inspired that the world could be a better place and he created windows to try and help....as a throw back to his inspiration he put the Roscommon and Mayo colours on his logo and pays image rights to Roscommon every year.
Bruce Willis based his character John McClain on Roscommon.
Lance Armstrong has admitted he was on drugs...what he hasn't admitted is, his drugs was supporting the Rossie's, and the high one gets from it.
TG4 is paid a fortune every year to release propaganda against Roscommon, to curtail our popularity....luckily no-one can understand it
Bill Clinton asked Monica to hang around late to watch the Rossie's take on Wicklow in the national league....after a great Roscommon victory they both got caught up in in the moment.....
MacGyver's knife was made in Kiltoom.
Neil Armstrong landed on the moon after winning a raffle prise in the Castlecoote drama production to visit the Roscommon lunar training camp. However, he was sent home early after trying to place an American flag on the pitch during a "one play only" practice game for the squad.
Chuck Norris is defenceless against any Roscommon person...
The movie 300 was originally called 30 in honour of the 43 & 44 teams, but it was thought no audience would believe a mere 30 men could perform such heroics.
Einstein's theory of relativity was disproved by Seamie O'Neill
If a Roscommon man wears sex panther it works 100% of the time all the time
Day 4:
After years of deliberation I have finally decided what I want to spend my confirmation money on...backing the Rossies to win on Sunday! However, before I made such a huge commitment, I said I'd do some research and look at the head to head's between the two teams. here's how it went.....Very quickly, thanks to Chris O'Dowd I found Beyoncé is behind the Rossies, but Jay-Z is going for Mayo (Bono, filling him with shite)
So I had to look further and tried a classic football talent indicator
- Number of train lines servicing Dublin = Roscommon 2 - Mayo 2
As you can see, still nothing separating the two teams, so a more detailed look was required and I found the below stat's very useful
- Scrabble score = Roscommon 15 - Mayo 9
Hollywood actors = Roscommon 2 - Mayo 0
Sads of turf brought home last year per head of capita = Roscommon 1,653 - Mayo 439
A chicken in Roscommon lays an average of 6.2 eggs per week, it's at 4.7 for a chicken in Mayo
Roscommon towns have won 3 Mayo county titles ....Mayo towns have won 0 county titles in Roscommon.
Proximity to the elusive source of Wexford strawberries = Roscommon 249km - Mayo 332km (Closest wins)
Number of counties that border Roscommon 7 - Mayo 3 (And we give them 1)
All-Ireland titles = Roscommon 10 - 4 Mayo ....Including handball
How many kinds of everything remind Dana of each county = Roscommon 13 - Mayo 6
National League points this year = Roscommon 9 - Mayo 6
Length of time a custard cream holds it's structure after being dipped in tea = in Roscommon 7 seconds - in Mayo 4 seconds
% of people who know when to hold 'em and know when to fold 'em = Roscommon 86% - Mayo 34%
Number of Flash Gordon's enemies residing in each County = Roscommon 1 - Mayo 0
Average number of levels in box footings over the last 50 years = Roscommon 7 - Mayo 4
So after my detailed analysis of both teams, I think it's obvious they'll be only one winner on Sunday.... The Mighty Roscommon
Day 5:
Some people have been questioning the wisdom of my bet yesterday. At first I was confused, but then I realised people like ??????????? aren't from Roscommon and don't have the insider info that we do and not everyone is privy to the below facts....
- Roscommon is taking the horse to France!
After fears that Roscommon's dominance of all thing's GAA would lead to lost interest in the game, the GAA instructed all match officials to be biased against Roscommon to help other teams win...The A-team umpired a match that Roscommon won, they umpired it fairly, and this was the crime they didn't commit!
Muhammad Ali, got beat up by a girl before joining the Loughlynn boxing club...the rest is history
Weather man Ger Fleming's winks were for Roscommon people only....he knew, and wanted us to know he knew
Leonardo Dicaprio's movie "the beach" was filmed in Roscommon
Santa Clause's first stop is Roscommon, he just can't wait any longer every year!
The Guy from the Guinness add had just heard Roscommon had beaten Antrim in the National League
The leaning tower of Pisa is just trying to get closer to Roscommon
In order to create the actual field, for the movie "The field", Roscommon soil had to be transported to less fertile filming locations to provide the contrast between it and neighbouring fields. Negotiations were lengthy and every gram of soil was returned to Roscommon once relevant scenes were filmed....it's been a contentious issue in Roscommon ever since
Lee Harvey Oswald was aiming for a Rossie sitting on the grassy knoll, the bullet bounced off him and hit some fella not from Roscommon
Roscommon has always been an axe in Mayo's side, so the county boundary was drawn up to represent this, before this is was the entire Island of Ireland.
A Roscommon player has never been injured, any absentees are due to a GAA imposed quota of first teamers we can play, in an effort to make the competition more even and give other teams a chance.
Roscommon shot JR
The Six Million dollars man got called up for trials before the FBD league one year, but failed to make the provisional Roscommon panel after finishing last in all the strength, speed and endurance tests.
Tir Na Nog is in Roscommon
It wasn't Fargo Boyle....It was Roscommon
Theresa Lowe's "Where in the world" got cancelled after contestants found out the correct answer to every question was Roscommon
The universe wasn't formed by the big bang, it was when Enon Gavins ancestors pulled down the very first crossbar
So when you know these things, you can easily see, Sunday will be a stroll in the park for Roscommon
Day 6:
To all the Rossies going to the game tomorrow, us Rossies around the world are envious and wish you well.
A special mention to all travelling on Silkes bus tomorrow, I wish I could be there with you, rest up well tonight, after all it is the night before championship....
Twas the night before Championship, when all through the house
Not a creature was stirring, not even a mouse.
The Jerseys were hung and pressed with great care,
Our thoughts on Castlebar, we soon would be there.
The children were nestled all snug in their beds,
While visions of victory danced in their heads.
For they know that the Rossies, they won't disappoint,
I'm more worried about balla and the Garda check-point.
When out on the lawn there arose such a racket,
That I took my last cigarette, from my Sweet Afton packet.
Away to the window I flew like a flash,
Tore open the shutters and threw up the sash.
Across my eye, came a glare of primrose and blue
I'd have to steady myself, to know what to do,
When, what to my wondering eyes should appear,
But the mighty Rossies, and they showed no fear..
With a grand old manager, he could come from the heaven's,
He looks so angelic, does our Johnny Evans.
More rapid than Fastrac's, his Rossies they came,
And he whistled, and shouted, and called them by name!
"Now Collins! Now, Carty, Now McDermott and Daly,
On Mannion!, on Cregg! On, on Keenan and ....Daly
To the top of the pile! To the top of them all!
By September 22nd, the rest they will fall"
For the Rossies don't need tricks, cunning or sly,
When they meet with an obstacle, the Rossies blast by.
So of to Castlebar, Silkes bus they will go
To be there in person, to say goodbye to Mayo!
Quote from: Crete Boom on June 15, 2013, 05:59:02 PM
Quote from: Syferus on June 15, 2013, 05:54:04 PM
Quote from: Crete Boom on June 15, 2013, 05:47:17 PM
Quote from: ross4life on June 15, 2013, 05:04:41 PM
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on June 15, 2013, 02:40:34 PM
Jaysus some of the Mayo bucks are getting fierce cocky. Dare I say it but a couple may be losing the run of themselves. ;D
Has been like that for the best part of 20 years now, they don't see us as challenge anymore why should they? the thing is it's not just a win they all expect but 10+ point win they expect & if they don't get it watch the poor mouth return.
Anyways it's been a ridiculous long wait for championship game our last competitive game was against Monaghan in March (game against Cavans 2nd string doesn't count) win lose or draw hopefully tomorrow is the first of many championship games for us this summer. The very best of luck to Gay,Wally,John and all the players.
I don't really get your point! You say we are cocky on the one hand for expecting a win at home and then agree that you haven't really challenged Mayo at senior level in for the best part of 20 yrs. Only the fair weather fans and fake Mayo fan accounts have been expecting a 10+ point win. If you read the posts of normal Mayo contributors on here the majority of them have not being giving the poor mouth but expect a battle with Mayo coming out with 3 or 4 points to spare. I would be very surprised (even if the Rossies are below par) if we win by more than 3 or 4 points!
Although to be honest with some of the good old begrudery comments from a tiny but loud minority of Rossies on here I would love a hammering like there was in 2009 but it ain't going to happen despite the proclamations form these mysterious newbie Mayo accounts popping up here in the run up to this match ;)
So here is a bold prediction for you poor tread upon Roscommon men form the big mean county of Mayo , Mayo to edge out a thriller by 3 point win ( the margin coming via a goal from Andy) with Ross getting stuck in at the off and leading at halftime so any you gamblers on here that's the bet for the weekend 8)
So basically you're calling larrin and highorlow, among others, Ros sleeper agents?
Alright lads, you've been rumbled - time to return to the mothership.
I think maybe you should spend a little less time posting and a little more time reading and you would see I specifically mentioned I didn't think highorlow was a fake account.
I wouldn't be bothered about anything anyone has to say on this board and that includes me at times.
For some reason I can't recall I did a head count once of Mayo posters and I found there were over 60 of us who were active posters at the time. Okay, some posted quite a lot and others only from time to time but, all in all, we had (have?) one of the most active communities on Gaaboard.
That seems to upset some of the begrudgers from other counties.
All it takes is for one Mayo head to show some sign of confidence in the team's chances of winning a game or even pass a tongue-in-cheek remark and the moanfest begins.
You'd think we are all cocky/arrogant/overbearing or whatever yer havin yerself.
Remarks like some of those posted here by Mayo members wouldn't get noticed if they were posted on any other thread.
Feck the hoors; let them squeal away!
Quote from: Lar Naparka on June 15, 2013, 07:11:28 PM
Quote from: Crete Boom on June 15, 2013, 05:59:02 PM
Quote from: Syferus on June 15, 2013, 05:54:04 PM
Quote from: Crete Boom on June 15, 2013, 05:47:17 PM
Quote from: ross4life on June 15, 2013, 05:04:41 PM
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on June 15, 2013, 02:40:34 PM
Jaysus some of the Mayo bucks are getting fierce cocky. Dare I say it but a couple may be losing the run of themselves. ;D
Has been like that for the best part of 20 years now, they don't see us as challenge anymore why should they? the thing is it's not just a win they all expect but 10+ point win they expect & if they don't get it watch the poor mouth return.
Anyways it's been a ridiculous long wait for championship game our last competitive game was against Monaghan in March (game against Cavans 2nd string doesn't count) win lose or draw hopefully tomorrow is the first of many championship games for us this summer. The very best of luck to Gay,Wally,John and all the players.
I don't really get your point! You say we are cocky on the one hand for expecting a win at home and then agree that you haven't really challenged Mayo at senior level in for the best part of 20 yrs. Only the fair weather fans and fake Mayo fan accounts have been expecting a 10+ point win. If you read the posts of normal Mayo contributors on here the majority of them have not being giving the poor mouth but expect a battle with Mayo coming out with 3 or 4 points to spare. I would be very surprised (even if the Rossies are below par) if we win by more than 3 or 4 points!
Although to be honest with some of the good old begrudery comments from a tiny but loud minority of Rossies on here I would love a hammering like there was in 2009 but it ain't going to happen despite the proclamations form these mysterious newbie Mayo accounts popping up here in the run up to this match ;)
So here is a bold prediction for you poor tread upon Roscommon men form the big mean county of Mayo , Mayo to edge out a thriller by 3 point win ( the margin coming via a goal from Andy) with Ross getting stuck in at the off and leading at halftime so any you gamblers on here that's the bet for the weekend 8)
So basically you're calling larrin and highorlow, among others, Ros sleeper agents?
Alright lads, you've been rumbled - time to return to the mothership.
I think maybe you should spend a little less time posting and a little more time reading and you would see I specifically mentioned I didn't think highorlow was a fake account.
I wouldn't be bothered about anything anyone has to say on this board and that includes me at times.
For some reason I can't recall I did a head count once of Mayo posters and I found there were over 60 of us who were active posters at the time. Okay, some posted quite a lot and others only from time to time but, all in all, we had (have?) one of the most active communities on Gaaboard.
That seems to upset some of the begrudgers from other counties.
All it takes is for one Mayo head to show some sign of confidence in the team's chances of winning a game or even pass a tongue-in-cheek remark and the moanfest begins.
You'd think we are all cocky/arrogant/overbearing or whatever yer havin yerself.
Remarks like some of those posted here by Mayo members wouldn't get noticed if they were posted on any other thread.
Feck the hoors; let them squeal away!
Well, with your relationship with the prideful Ros town of Ballagh it seems clear to me you are a deep sleeper for the Ros.
I feel it has went too far Lar, and it's time we own up to our misdeeds and head to McHale with our beautiful primrose and blue jerseys and not be trying to wind these lovely Mayo folk up.
It's tough when you're not from a great footballing county like Ros but we'd never be able to fully understand such feelings, Lar.
ROS ABU!
I think it's common trend in Ireland to say someone is cocky or arrogant when they actually just believe in themselves. We are a nation of begrudgers after all.
Anyways, heard the bauld Donie Shine is due to start.
Quote from: ballinaman on June 15, 2013, 07:54:46 PM
I think it's common trend in Ireland to say someone is cocky or arrogant when they actually just believe in themselves. We are a nation of begrudgers after all.
Anyways, heard the bauld Donie Shine is due to start.
That's be those damned Ros sleepers again :-X
Quote from: PadraicHenryPearse on June 15, 2013, 07:07:38 PM
A friend of a friend is getting very excited about the up coming match, his facebook posts this week i think warrant sharing....enjoy!!!
Day 1:
- with the All-Ireland championship only starting in earnest next weekend when the big boys, like Roscommon, get their first taste of championship action....here is some interesting and relevant facts:
ROSCOMMON is the 44507th most popular name in USA, One in every 702,203 Americans is named ROSCOMMON and popularity of name ROSCOMMON is 1.42 people per million.
Lough Key has 32 islands, some of the more famous names include bullock island and Ros for Sam
Nostradamus came to fame, not after predicting the French revolution, but after predicting Roscommon would win back to back all-Irelands in 43 and 44, this prediction was disbelieved by millions, as many thought roscommon would have won the finals in 40,41 and 42 before this...but the wily old Nostradamus knew best.
Roscommon doesn't have a coast line...just great footballers
The entire population of the world could fit in Roscommon standing up... if this were to happen tho, they would lose a football game of rossies against the rest..
The popular song "Guns don't kill people, rappers do", was plagiarised from the inscription found on the Castlestrange Stone, found outside Athleague dated 200BC..which when translated stats "Guns don't kill people, Rossies do" and lead to Oliver Cromwell's fear of entering Connaught during his invasion of Ireland.
The 43 and 44 teams were all pioneering bakers, and invented sliced bread, the saying "the greatest thing since sliced bread" is a tip of the cap to that magnificent Roscommon team.
Donald Trump draws the dole in Roscommon
Black beauty is the ugliest and whitest horse in Roscommon
It was the Roscommon full back line that stopped the gulf war in '91, not the yanks
Day 2:
I have logged onto Facebook today, and have been shocked at what I found!! Please, can any faint-hearted people or those who have not got their turf cut during the dry spell (You have enough on your plate) do not read on, but what I found was this.... people are updating profiles, tagging pictures, posting posts, etc....literally millions of people, MILLIONS! Carrying out these normal routines, these everyday Facebook activities, as if in denial, as if by not acknowledging the elephant in the room and completely ignoring the fact that the Rossies are taking part in the Connaught semi-final on Sunday, it might simply.....just not happen...I realise people take comfort from not thinking about us in the championship, that a clearer path to victory presents itself for their county, if they just don't think about Roscommon and the "great bunch of lads" playing for them as a stumbling block...But people, the sooner you face up to us the better, we are a reality, we are remarkable, we are ready, WE ARE ROS....
Day 3:
OK Folks, a recent survey on who neutrals are going for on Sunday, has shown 3 people in China and a further 2 in Trinidad and Tobago are "undecided", everyone else is on the Rossies! To those Five I say, look at the facts below and see what Roscommon has contributed to the world and culture as they know it and then tell me they are still undecided!!
- The river Shannon, is a man-made river, it was constructed by the other 31 counties in a last ditch effort to stop Roscommon getting to Croke Park on the 3rd Sunday in September....all efforts on the football pitch had failed....Roscommon then invented boats and bridges and brought Sam Maguire home...
New grange was built to let the dead inside know when Roscommon had begun pre-season training.
The great barrier reef was created when Jimmy Murray took a pee in the sea...before this, it was just a sandy bottom to the ocean.
The Wachowski brothers made "The Matrix" to try and capture the transformation that happens an ordinary man, when he puts on a Roscommon jersey on Championship day.......James Cameron also tried to represent this phenomenon, with the recent Avatar movie, however, he went more literal in his approach with the colour of the avatar, but ultimately missed the mark.
After watching Roscommon beat Mayo, Bill Gates was inspired that the world could be a better place and he created windows to try and help....as a throw back to his inspiration he put the Roscommon and Mayo colours on his logo and pays image rights to Roscommon every year.
Bruce Willis based his character John McClain on Roscommon.
Lance Armstrong has admitted he was on drugs...what he hasn't admitted is, his drugs was supporting the Rossie's, and the high one gets from it.
TG4 is paid a fortune every year to release propaganda against Roscommon, to curtail our popularity....luckily no-one can understand it
Bill Clinton asked Monica to hang around late to watch the Rossie's take on Wicklow in the national league....after a great Roscommon victory they both got caught up in in the moment.....
MacGyver's knife was made in Kiltoom.
Neil Armstrong landed on the moon after winning a raffle prise in the Castlecoote drama production to visit the Roscommon lunar training camp. However, he was sent home early after trying to place an American flag on the pitch during a "one play only" practice game for the squad.
Chuck Norris is defenceless against any Roscommon person...
The movie 300 was originally called 30 in honour of the 43 & 44 teams, but it was thought no audience would believe a mere 30 men could perform such heroics.
Einstein's theory of relativity was disproved by Seamie O'Neill
If a Roscommon man wears sex panther it works 100% of the time all the time
Day 4:
After years of deliberation I have finally decided what I want to spend my confirmation money on...backing the Rossies to win on Sunday! However, before I made such a huge commitment, I said I'd do some research and look at the head to head's between the two teams. here's how it went.....Very quickly, thanks to Chris O'Dowd I found Beyoncé is behind the Rossies, but Jay-Z is going for Mayo (Bono, filling him with shite)
So I had to look further and tried a classic football talent indicator
- Number of train lines servicing Dublin = Roscommon 2 - Mayo 2
As you can see, still nothing separating the two teams, so a more detailed look was required and I found the below stat's very useful
- Scrabble score = Roscommon 15 - Mayo 9
Hollywood actors = Roscommon 2 - Mayo 0
Sads of turf brought home last year per head of capita = Roscommon 1,653 - Mayo 439
A chicken in Roscommon lays an average of 6.2 eggs per week, it's at 4.7 for a chicken in Mayo
Roscommon towns have won 3 Mayo county titles ....Mayo towns have won 0 county titles in Roscommon.
Proximity to the elusive source of Wexford strawberries = Roscommon 249km - Mayo 332km (Closest wins)
Number of counties that border Roscommon 7 - Mayo 3 (And we give them 1)
All-Ireland titles = Roscommon 10 - 4 Mayo ....Including handball
How many kinds of everything remind Dana of each county = Roscommon 13 - Mayo 6
National League points this year = Roscommon 9 - Mayo 6
Length of time a custard cream holds it's structure after being dipped in tea = in Roscommon 7 seconds - in Mayo 4 seconds
% of people who know when to hold 'em and know when to fold 'em = Roscommon 86% - Mayo 34%
Number of Flash Gordon's enemies residing in each County = Roscommon 1 - Mayo 0
Average number of levels in box footings over the last 50 years = Roscommon 7 - Mayo 4
So after my detailed analysis of both teams, I think it's obvious they'll be only one winner on Sunday.... The Mighty Roscommon
Day 5:
Some people have been questioning the wisdom of my bet yesterday. At first I was confused, but then I realised people like ??????????? aren't from Roscommon and don't have the insider info that we do and not everyone is privy to the below facts....
- Roscommon is taking the horse to France!
After fears that Roscommon's dominance of all thing's GAA would lead to lost interest in the game, the GAA instructed all match officials to be biased against Roscommon to help other teams win...The A-team umpired a match that Roscommon won, they umpired it fairly, and this was the crime they didn't commit!
Muhammad Ali, got beat up by a girl before joining the Loughlynn boxing club...the rest is history
Weather man Ger Fleming's winks were for Roscommon people only....he knew, and wanted us to know he knew
Leonardo Dicaprio's movie "the beach" was filmed in Roscommon
Santa Clause's first stop is Roscommon, he just can't wait any longer every year!
The Guy from the Guinness add had just heard Roscommon had beaten Antrim in the National League
The leaning tower of Pisa is just trying to get closer to Roscommon
In order to create the actual field, for the movie "The field", Roscommon soil had to be transported to less fertile filming locations to provide the contrast between it and neighbouring fields. Negotiations were lengthy and every gram of soil was returned to Roscommon once relevant scenes were filmed....it's been a contentious issue in Roscommon ever since
Lee Harvey Oswald was aiming for a Rossie sitting on the grassy knoll, the bullet bounced off him and hit some fella not from Roscommon
Roscommon has always been an axe in Mayo's side, so the county boundary was drawn up to represent this, before this is was the entire Island of Ireland.
A Roscommon player has never been injured, any absentees are due to a GAA imposed quota of first teamers we can play, in an effort to make the competition more even and give other teams a chance.
Roscommon shot JR
The Six Million dollars man got called up for trials before the FBD league one year, but failed to make the provisional Roscommon panel after finishing last in all the strength, speed and endurance tests.
Tir Na Nog is in Roscommon
It wasn't Fargo Boyle....It was Roscommon
Theresa Lowe's "Where in the world" got cancelled after contestants found out the correct answer to every question was Roscommon
The universe wasn't formed by the big bang, it was when Enon Gavins ancestors pulled down the very first crossbar
So when you know these things, you can easily see, Sunday will be a stroll in the park for Roscommon
Day 6:
To all the Rossies going to the game tomorrow, us Rossies around the world are envious and wish you well.
A special mention to all travelling on Silkes bus tomorrow, I wish I could be there with you, rest up well tonight, after all it is the night before championship....
Twas the night before Championship, when all through the house
Not a creature was stirring, not even a mouse.
The Jerseys were hung and pressed with great care,
Our thoughts on Castlebar, we soon would be there.
The children were nestled all snug in their beds,
While visions of victory danced in their heads.
For they know that the Rossies, they won't disappoint,
I'm more worried about balla and the Garda check-point.
When out on the lawn there arose such a racket,
That I took my last cigarette, from my Sweet Afton packet.
Away to the window I flew like a flash,
Tore open the shutters and threw up the sash.
Across my eye, came a glare of primrose and blue
I'd have to steady myself, to know what to do,
When, what to my wondering eyes should appear,
But the mighty Rossies, and they showed no fear..
With a grand old manager, he could come from the heaven's,
He looks so angelic, does our Johnny Evans.
More rapid than Fastrac's, his Rossies they came,
And he whistled, and shouted, and called them by name!
"Now Collins! Now, Carty, Now McDermott and Daly,
On Mannion!, on Cregg! On, on Keenan and ....Daly
To the top of the pile! To the top of them all!
By September 22nd, the rest they will fall"
For the Rossies don't need tricks, cunning or sly,
When they meet with an obstacle, the Rossies blast by.
So of to Castlebar, Silkes bus they will go
To be there in person, to say goodbye to Mayo!
thanks for sharing, good old laugh that, I just said to myself I'll have a gander in here the usual tbh boring stuff is written but the above is original and witty, fair play, I'd be suprised if Ros don't put it up to mayo,,,but expecting mayo to win by 3.
Quote from: Lar Naparka on June 15, 2013, 07:11:28 PM
Quote from: Crete Boom on June 15, 2013, 05:59:02 PM
Quote from: Syferus on June 15, 2013, 05:54:04 PM
Quote from: Crete Boom on June 15, 2013, 05:47:17 PM
Quote from: ross4life on June 15, 2013, 05:04:41 PM
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on June 15, 2013, 02:40:34 PM
Jaysus some of the Mayo bucks are getting fierce cocky. Dare I say it but a couple may be losing the run of themselves. ;D
Has been like that for the best part of 20 years now, they don't see us as challenge anymore why should they? the thing is it's not just a win they all expect but 10+ point win they expect & if they don't get it watch the poor mouth return.
Anyways it's been a ridiculous long wait for championship game our last competitive game was against Monaghan in March (game against Cavans 2nd string doesn't count) win lose or draw hopefully tomorrow is the first of many championship games for us this summer. The very best of luck to Gay,Wally,John and all the players.
I don't really get your point! You say we are cocky on the one hand for expecting a win at home and then agree that you haven't really challenged Mayo at senior level in for the best part of 20 yrs. Only the fair weather fans and fake Mayo fan accounts have been expecting a 10+ point win. If you read the posts of normal Mayo contributors on here the majority of them have not being giving the poor mouth but expect a battle with Mayo coming out with 3 or 4 points to spare. I would be very surprised (even if the Rossies are below par) if we win by more than 3 or 4 points!
Although to be honest with some of the good old begrudery comments from a tiny but loud minority of Rossies on here I would love a hammering like there was in 2009 but it ain't going to happen despite the proclamations form these mysterious newbie Mayo accounts popping up here in the run up to this match ;)
So here is a bold prediction for you poor tread upon Roscommon men form the big mean county of Mayo , Mayo to edge out a thriller by 3 point win ( the margin coming via a goal from Andy) with Ross getting stuck in at the off and leading at halftime so any you gamblers on here that's the bet for the weekend 8)
So basically you're calling larrin and highorlow, among others, Ros sleeper agents?
Alright lads, you've been rumbled - time to return to the mothership.
I think maybe you should spend a little less time posting and a little more time reading and you would see I specifically mentioned I didn't think highorlow was a fake account.
I wouldn't be bothered about anything anyone has to say on this board and that includes me at times.
For some reason I can't recall I did a head count once of Mayo posters and I found there were over 60 of us who were active posters at the time. Okay, some posted quite a lot and others only from time to time but, all in all, we had (have?) one of the most active communities on Gaaboard.
That seems to upset some of the begrudgers from other counties.
All it takes is for one Mayo head to show some sign of confidence in the team's chances of winning a game or even pass a tongue-in-cheek remark and the moanfest begins.
You'd think we are all cocky/arrogant/overbearing or whatever yer havin yerself.
Remarks like some of those posted here by Mayo members wouldn't get noticed if they were posted on any other thread.
Feck the hoors; let them squeal away!
Good Man Lar spot on as usual .
Quote from: Syferus on June 15, 2013, 07:54:18 PM
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Well, with your relationship with the prideful Ros town of Ballagh it seems clear to me you are a deep sleeper for the Ros.
I feel it has went too far Lar, and it's time we own up to our misdeeds and head to McHale with our beautiful primrose and blue jerseys and not be trying to wind these lovely Mayo folk up.
It's tough when you're not from a great footballing county like Ros but we'd never be able to fully understand such feelings, Lar.
ROS ABU!
Arra, keep bleatin' away, Syf; sure nobody gives a damn!
I think you'll find that us Mayo folk are well-used to begrudgers baaing away at us.
Ballagh was ours; Ballagh is ours and Ballagh will be ours when its most famous son walks into Durkin's on September 23rd with the Sam under his oxter and his head hurting after the craic the day before.
For five long generations the good burghers of Ballagh have remained steadfast in their allegiance to their motherland and refused to lower their standards by consorting with commoners. Here's to the next five!
(BTW, Ballagh is one dump that I can't drive through fast enough for my liking. I spent the best years of my life incarcerated in Nathy's and out of that place I couldn't wait to get.
But it is
our dump so shag off and find one of yer own.)
Quote from: Lar Naparka on June 15, 2013, 10:10:52 PM
Quote from: Syferus on June 15, 2013, 07:54:18 PM
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Well, with your relationship with the prideful Ros town of Ballagh it seems clear to me you are a deep sleeper for the Ros.
I feel it has went too far Lar, and it's time we own up to our misdeeds and head to McHale with our beautiful primrose and blue jerseys and not be trying to wind these lovely Mayo folk up.
It's tough when you're not from a great footballing county like Ros but we'd never be able to fully understand such feelings, Lar.
ROS ABU!
Arra, keep bleatin' away, Syf; sure nobody gives a damn!
I think you'll find that us Mayo folk are well-used to begrudgers baaing away at us.
Ballagh was ours; Ballagh is ours and Ballagh will be ours when its most famous son walks into Durkin's on September 23rd with the Sam under his oxter and his head hurting after the craic the day before.
For five long generations the good burghers of Ballagh have remained steadfast in their allegiance to their motherland and refused to lower their standards by consorting with commoners. Here's to the next five!
(BTW, Ballagh is one dump that I can't drive through fast enough for my liking. I spent the best years of my life incarcerated in Nathy's and out of that place I couldn't wait to get.
But it is our dump so shag off and find one of yer own.)
It's awful big of ye to let Johnno do that given how his last term went but won't Andy be a bit put out? :D
Good to see the expectations in Mayo are so well grounded. Sure what hope will the Ros have?
Quote from: Crete Boom on June 15, 2013, 05:47:17 PM
I don't really get your point! You say we are cocky on the one hand for expecting a win at home and then agree that you haven't really challenged Mayo at senior level in for the best part of 20 yrs. Only the fair weather fans and fake Mayo fan accounts have been expecting a 10+ point win. If you read the posts of normal Mayo contributors on here the majority of them have not being giving the poor mouth but expect a battle with Mayo coming out with 3 or 4 points to spare. I would be very surprised (even if the Rossies are below par) if we win by more than 3 or 4 points!
Although to be honest with some of the good old begrudery comments from a tiny but loud minority of Rossies on here I would love a hammering like there was in 2009 but it ain't going to happen despite the proclamations form these mysterious newbie Mayo accounts popping up here in the run up to this match ;)
So here is a bold prediction for you poor tread upon Roscommon men form the big mean county of Mayo , Mayo to edge out a thriller by 3 point win ( the margin coming via a goal from Andy) with Ross getting stuck in at the off and leading at halftime so any you gamblers on here that's the bet for the weekend 8)
I would thought my point was straight forward? for the best part of 20 years you have expected to beat us & when you see the results we aren't seen as challenge. Now i have nothing against someone that is confident of winning especially if you happen to be better but it's 10+ points wins that are the cocky chaps. For the last month if i have cent for everytime a Mayo supporter has said to me "
stay at home sure you don't want to see your team hammered again" i'd be a rich man now. I stayed in Galway the night of the last match the predictions among Mayo followers on how much they would beat us matched the cocky supporters on these forums.
And then we had the Mayo lad that wrote article during the week saying Mayo had to hammer us or they can forget about winning the All Ireland. We have been compared to Waterford,Limerick,Carlow when truth we are closer to Meath,Monaghan,Wexford the question is would Meath,Monaghan,Wexford be written off as much against Mayo?
I'm with you and the minority, if we bring competitive performance it will be close contest and i hope it's good game that will be useful for both teams moving forward.
P.S PadraicHenryPearse good stuff we need more posts like that in.
Quote from: PadraicHenryPearse on June 15, 2013, 07:07:38 PM
A friend of a friend is getting very excited about the up coming match, his facebook posts this week i think warrant sharing....enjoy!!!
Day 1:
- with the All-Ireland championship only starting in earnest next weekend when the big boys, like Roscommon, get their first taste of championship action....here is some interesting and relevant facts:
ROSCOMMON is the 44507th most popular name in USA, One in every 702,203 Americans is named ROSCOMMON and popularity of name ROSCOMMON is 1.42 people per million.
Lough Key has 32 islands, some of the more famous names include bullock island and Ros for Sam
Nostradamus came to fame, not after predicting the French revolution, but after predicting Roscommon would win back to back all-Irelands in 43 and 44, this prediction was disbelieved by millions, as many thought roscommon would have won the finals in 40,41 and 42 before this...but the wily old Nostradamus knew best.
Roscommon doesn't have a coast line...just great footballers
The entire population of the world could fit in Roscommon standing up... if this were to happen tho, they would lose a football game of rossies against the rest..
The popular song "Guns don't kill people, rappers do", was plagiarised from the inscription found on the Castlestrange Stone, found outside Athleague dated 200BC..which when translated stats "Guns don't kill people, Rossies do" and lead to Oliver Cromwell's fear of entering Connaught during his invasion of Ireland.
The 43 and 44 teams were all pioneering bakers, and invented sliced bread, the saying "the greatest thing since sliced bread" is a tip of the cap to that magnificent Roscommon team.
Donald Trump draws the dole in Roscommon
Black beauty is the ugliest and whitest horse in Roscommon
It was the Roscommon full back line that stopped the gulf war in '91, not the yanks
Day 2:
I have logged onto Facebook today, and have been shocked at what I found!! Please, can any faint-hearted people or those who have not got their turf cut during the dry spell (You have enough on your plate) do not read on, but what I found was this.... people are updating profiles, tagging pictures, posting posts, etc....literally millions of people, MILLIONS! Carrying out these normal routines, these everyday Facebook activities, as if in denial, as if by not acknowledging the elephant in the room and completely ignoring the fact that the Rossies are taking part in the Connaught semi-final on Sunday, it might simply.....just not happen...I realise people take comfort from not thinking about us in the championship, that a clearer path to victory presents itself for their county, if they just don't think about Roscommon and the "great bunch of lads" playing for them as a stumbling block...But people, the sooner you face up to us the better, we are a reality, we are remarkable, we are ready, WE ARE ROS....
Day 3:
OK Folks, a recent survey on who neutrals are going for on Sunday, has shown 3 people in China and a further 2 in Trinidad and Tobago are "undecided", everyone else is on the Rossies! To those Five I say, look at the facts below and see what Roscommon has contributed to the world and culture as they know it and then tell me they are still undecided!!
- The river Shannon, is a man-made river, it was constructed by the other 31 counties in a last ditch effort to stop Roscommon getting to Croke Park on the 3rd Sunday in September....all efforts on the football pitch had failed....Roscommon then invented boats and bridges and brought Sam Maguire home...
New grange was built to let the dead inside know when Roscommon had begun pre-season training.
The great barrier reef was created when Jimmy Murray took a pee in the sea...before this, it was just a sandy bottom to the ocean.
The Wachowski brothers made "The Matrix" to try and capture the transformation that happens an ordinary man, when he puts on a Roscommon jersey on Championship day.......James Cameron also tried to represent this phenomenon, with the recent Avatar movie, however, he went more literal in his approach with the colour of the avatar, but ultimately missed the mark.
After watching Roscommon beat Mayo, Bill Gates was inspired that the world could be a better place and he created windows to try and help....as a throw back to his inspiration he put the Roscommon and Mayo colours on his logo and pays image rights to Roscommon every year.
Bruce Willis based his character John McClain on Roscommon.
Lance Armstrong has admitted he was on drugs...what he hasn't admitted is, his drugs was supporting the Rossie's, and the high one gets from it.
TG4 is paid a fortune every year to release propaganda against Roscommon, to curtail our popularity....luckily no-one can understand it
Bill Clinton asked Monica to hang around late to watch the Rossie's take on Wicklow in the national league....after a great Roscommon victory they both got caught up in in the moment.....
MacGyver's knife was made in Kiltoom.
Neil Armstrong landed on the moon after winning a raffle prise in the Castlecoote drama production to visit the Roscommon lunar training camp. However, he was sent home early after trying to place an American flag on the pitch during a "one play only" practice game for the squad.
Chuck Norris is defenceless against any Roscommon person...
The movie 300 was originally called 30 in honour of the 43 & 44 teams, but it was thought no audience would believe a mere 30 men could perform such heroics.
Einstein's theory of relativity was disproved by Seamie O'Neill
If a Roscommon man wears sex panther it works 100% of the time all the time
Day 4:
After years of deliberation I have finally decided what I want to spend my confirmation money on...backing the Rossies to win on Sunday! However, before I made such a huge commitment, I said I'd do some research and look at the head to head's between the two teams. here's how it went.....Very quickly, thanks to Chris O'Dowd I found Beyoncé is behind the Rossies, but Jay-Z is going for Mayo (Bono, filling him with shite)
So I had to look further and tried a classic football talent indicator
- Number of train lines servicing Dublin = Roscommon 2 - Mayo 2
As you can see, still nothing separating the two teams, so a more detailed look was required and I found the below stat's very useful
- Scrabble score = Roscommon 15 - Mayo 9
Hollywood actors = Roscommon 2 - Mayo 0
Sads of turf brought home last year per head of capita = Roscommon 1,653 - Mayo 439
A chicken in Roscommon lays an average of 6.2 eggs per week, it's at 4.7 for a chicken in Mayo
Roscommon towns have won 3 Mayo county titles ....Mayo towns have won 0 county titles in Roscommon.
Proximity to the elusive source of Wexford strawberries = Roscommon 249km - Mayo 332km (Closest wins)
Number of counties that border Roscommon 7 - Mayo 3 (And we give them 1)
All-Ireland titles = Roscommon 10 - 4 Mayo ....Including handball
How many kinds of everything remind Dana of each county = Roscommon 13 - Mayo 6
National League points this year = Roscommon 9 - Mayo 6
Length of time a custard cream holds it's structure after being dipped in tea = in Roscommon 7 seconds - in Mayo 4 seconds
% of people who know when to hold 'em and know when to fold 'em = Roscommon 86% - Mayo 34%
Number of Flash Gordon's enemies residing in each County = Roscommon 1 - Mayo 0
Average number of levels in box footings over the last 50 years = Roscommon 7 - Mayo 4
So after my detailed analysis of both teams, I think it's obvious they'll be only one winner on Sunday.... The Mighty Roscommon
Day 5:
Some people have been questioning the wisdom of my bet yesterday. At first I was confused, but then I realised people like ??????????? aren't from Roscommon and don't have the insider info that we do and not everyone is privy to the below facts....
- Roscommon is taking the horse to France!
After fears that Roscommon's dominance of all thing's GAA would lead to lost interest in the game, the GAA instructed all match officials to be biased against Roscommon to help other teams win...The A-team umpired a match that Roscommon won, they umpired it fairly, and this was the crime they didn't commit!
Muhammad Ali, got beat up by a girl before joining the Loughlynn boxing club...the rest is history
Weather man Ger Fleming's winks were for Roscommon people only....he knew, and wanted us to know he knew
Leonardo Dicaprio's movie "the beach" was filmed in Roscommon
Santa Clause's first stop is Roscommon, he just can't wait any longer every year!
The Guy from the Guinness add had just heard Roscommon had beaten Antrim in the National League
The leaning tower of Pisa is just trying to get closer to Roscommon
In order to create the actual field, for the movie "The field", Roscommon soil had to be transported to less fertile filming locations to provide the contrast between it and neighbouring fields. Negotiations were lengthy and every gram of soil was returned to Roscommon once relevant scenes were filmed....it's been a contentious issue in Roscommon ever since
Lee Harvey Oswald was aiming for a Rossie sitting on the grassy knoll, the bullet bounced off him and hit some fella not from Roscommon
Roscommon has always been an axe in Mayo's side, so the county boundary was drawn up to represent this, before this is was the entire Island of Ireland.
A Roscommon player has never been injured, any absentees are due to a GAA imposed quota of first teamers we can play, in an effort to make the competition more even and give other teams a chance.
Roscommon shot JR
The Six Million dollars man got called up for trials before the FBD league one year, but failed to make the provisional Roscommon panel after finishing last in all the strength, speed and endurance tests.
Tir Na Nog is in Roscommon
It wasn't Fargo Boyle....It was Roscommon
Theresa Lowe's "Where in the world" got cancelled after contestants found out the correct answer to every question was Roscommon
The universe wasn't formed by the big bang, it was when Enon Gavins ancestors pulled down the very first crossbar
So when you know these things, you can easily see, Sunday will be a stroll in the park for Roscommon
Day 6:
To all the Rossies going to the game tomorrow, us Rossies around the world are envious and wish you well.
A special mention to all travelling on Silkes bus tomorrow, I wish I could be there with you, rest up well tonight, after all it is the night before championship....
Twas the night before Championship, when all through the house
Not a creature was stirring, not even a mouse.
The Jerseys were hung and pressed with great care,
Our thoughts on Castlebar, we soon would be there.
The children were nestled all snug in their beds,
While visions of victory danced in their heads.
For they know that the Rossies, they won't disappoint,
I'm more worried about balla and the Garda check-point.
When out on the lawn there arose such a racket,
That I took my last cigarette, from my Sweet Afton packet.
Away to the window I flew like a flash,
Tore open the shutters and threw up the sash.
Across my eye, came a glare of primrose and blue
I'd have to steady myself, to know what to do,
When, what to my wondering eyes should appear,
But the mighty Rossies, and they showed no fear..
With a grand old manager, he could come from the heaven's,
He looks so angelic, does our Johnny Evans.
More rapid than Fastrac's, his Rossies they came,
And he whistled, and shouted, and called them by name!
"Now Collins! Now, Carty, Now McDermott and Daly,
On Mannion!, on Cregg! On, on Keenan and ....Daly
To the top of the pile! To the top of them all!
By September 22nd, the rest they will fall"
For the Rossies don't need tricks, cunning or sly,
When they meet with an obstacle, the Rossies blast by.
So of to Castlebar, Silkes bus they will go
To be there in person, to say goodbye to Mayo!
Great stuff, enjoyed that.
Life/Sport often echo each other. Both should aspire to the maxim of "being the best you can be". If Ross and Mayo max out on that then it should be the rhubards by 6.
My ultimate/realistic aspiration for 2013 championship? ........ Mayo by 4-6 tomorrow. Mayo to finally win Sam. Ross to make the last 6 on the back of a progressive back door run....... with a groundwork secured for the future.
Here's to a magnificient contest tomorrow!"
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Quote from: macdanger2 on June 14, 2013, 07:06:37 PM
Quote from: Syferus on June 14, 2013, 06:10:32 PM
Pearse is easily a better stadium than McHale. The only problem is it's built in Salthill.
Eh?? Have you ever been to Pearse?? It's a rubbish stadium, standing only on three sides of the pitch - not much use for older people and anyone with kids.
I've been to loads of grounds around the country and Pearse is undoubtably one of the best (apart from it's horrendous traffic problem). Only one covered stand but it almost holds 10,000. Not many occasions when you would require more than that. Building anything bigger would just be a vanity project. Even the toilet facilities are vastly superior to the vast majority of grounds in the country. Always a pet peeve of mine as in most grounds the standard of jacks is abysmal.
As the Father of 3 young females I hear ya GBB. Pearse is a fine stadium. Traffic, location & wind factor take from it however. Pi
Quote from: ross matt on June 15, 2013, 11:37:27 PM
Life/Sport often echo each other. Both should aspire to the maxim of "being the best you can be". If Ross and Mayo max out on that then it should be the rhubards by 6.
My ultimate/realistic aspiration for 2013 championship? ........ Mayo by 4-6 tomorrow. Mayo to finally win Sam. Ross to make the last 6 on the back of a progressive back door run....... with a groundwork secured for the future.
Here's to a magnificient contest tomorrow!"
Are we aiming for a AIQF draw!?
Nothing like Roscommon-Mayo in the championship. Doesn't matter if one team is All-Ireland champions and the other hasn't won a game all year. Special.
This thread has taken a life of it's own! :D Safe journey to ALL fans, and may we all live to tell the tale of whatever happens. May the best team win.....so long as it's Mayo of course. :)
Quote from: Syferus on June 15, 2013, 10:26:25 PM
Quote from: Lar Naparka on June 15, 2013, 10:10:52 PM
Quote from: Syferus on June 15, 2013, 07:54:18 PM
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Well, with your relationship with the prideful Ros town of Ballagh it seems clear to me you are a deep sleeper for the Ros.
I feel it has went too far Lar, and it's time we own up to our misdeeds and head to McHale with our beautiful primrose and blue jerseys and not be trying to wind these lovely Mayo folk up.
It's tough when you're not from a great footballing county like Ros but we'd never be able to fully understand such feelings, Lar.
ROS ABU!
Arra, keep bleatin' away, Syf; sure nobody gives a damn!
I think you'll find that us Mayo folk are well-used to begrudgers baaing away at us.
Ballagh was ours; Ballagh is ours and Ballagh will be ours when its most famous son walks into Durkin's on September 23rd with the Sam under his oxter and his head hurting after the craic the day before.
For five long generations the good burghers of Ballagh have remained steadfast in their allegiance to their motherland and refused to lower their standards by consorting with commoners. Here's to the next five!
(BTW, Ballagh is one dump that I can't drive through fast enough for my liking. I spent the best years of my life incarcerated in Nathy's and out of that place I couldn't wait to get.
But it is our dump so shag off and find one of yer own.)
It's awful big of ye to let Johnno do that given how his last term went but won't Andy be a bit put out? :D
Good to see the expectations in Mayo are so well grounded. Sure what hope will the Ros have?
I guess Syf that it's time to get serious and leave the banter aside for another year.
I hope that when all is over and done, everybody will leave the ground with something to be happy about.
A good, hard game played in a sporting fashion will go top of my wish list.
Just hope the weather isn't too bad. It's a bit warm and muggy in Dublin right now but the rain clouds are closing in. I guess it's bucketing down in Castlebar right now.
Anyway, raining or not; here I come.
BTW, you are mixing up Ballagh's most famous son with its most famous sonaofabitch! ;D
Lot of talk about Ballagh in here. I had a couple of pints in there last night, it was pure dead, there was more people in brosna than the whole town pubs .
Ballagh looks well this morning though, in Mattie toweys gettin the papers , the flags are in full swing, both counties and it looks great tbh.
Weather is fairly cloudy , i can't see us escaping rain all day.
The predictions of 10/18 point wins , will soon be justified. Maigheo abu.
Quote from: ross matt on June 15, 2013, 11:37:27 PM
Life/Sport often echo each other. Both should aspire to the maxim of "being the best you can be". If Ross and Mayo max out on that then it should be the rhubards by 6.
My ultimate/realistic aspiration for 2013 championship? ........ Mayo by 4-6 tomorrow. Mayo to finally win Sam. Ross to make the last 6 on the back of a progressive back door run....... with a groundwork secured for the future.
Here's to a magnificient contest tomorrow!"
Now that my friends is a statement from a true sporting fan!!
25 pages of this,and if Mayo wipe the floor with them we wonder why!!
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on June 16, 2013, 03:07:25 PM
25 pages of this,and if Mayo wipe the floor with them we wonder why!!
In fairness the Mayo lads like talking.
How in the name of fook do you miss a free from 21 metres bang in front of the posts?
ffs
i been on the tear all weekend and i would scored that free. brutal for a county man!!!
4 to 2 Mayo 17 mins
Keith Higgins is a cracking player
13 to 4 for Mayo at HT. dunno who can stop them in this form.
Mayo are the most talented team in the country imo
Hope this is they're year to win Sam - hopefully they're mentally a lot stronger than previous Mayo sides when t comes to Croker in August and September
Referee isn't helping but Mayo are way the better team.
We're winning the middle but Mayo's blanket has very few holes. Freeman is in spectacular form.
Its division 1 against division 3 and the gap in class is there for all to see. Mayo will have tougher challenge games before they get to Croke Park. Still don't think they have what it takes to win an All Ireland, though they are probably the third best team in the country at the minute, behind Donegal and Dublin.
Mayo motoring well and won't be far away come September
Quote from: Aaron Boone on June 16, 2013, 04:36:40 PM
13 to 4 for Mayo at HT. dunno who can stop them in this form.
You have to bear in mind the standard of opposition in Connacht which is not good at the moment. Roscommon are an average division 3 side and Galway are division 2 in name only. I think our level is more division 3 to be honest. Sligo have just lost to London. Enough said.
Trying to follow the game on twitter and Facebook. Would I be right in saying mayo had 8 different scorers from play in first half?
Quote from: Never beat the deeler on June 16, 2013, 04:56:03 PM
Trying to follow the game on twitter and Facebook. Would I be right in saying mayo had 8 different scorers from play in first half?
Nine now
"Dunno who can stop them"
i actually wait to they play someone worth a damn before coming out with that!
We know what they are like when they play Donegal, Dublin, Tyrone, Kerry , Cork
BEFORE coming out with who can stop them
mayo trying to save jersey fabric down round those parts? those jerseys are ridiculous tight, it doesnt make u any bigger looking!
That'll be the end of Syfin feeling it in his waters. BLD.
Quote from: seafoid on June 16, 2013, 05:10:18 PM
That'll be the end of Syfin feeling it in his waters. BLD.
Ros v Galway R2.
If ye make it.
The standard of opposition is pretty irrelevant at this stage.
I think it's pretty clear Mayo are just as good if not better than they were last year when they beat Dublin handy enough in an AI semi and only lost to a rabid Donegal in the final.
Think they have to be wary about peaking too early. London/Leitrim aren't going to give them a game so it'll be a while before they need to be at their best.
I think this just confirms galway and roscommon have failed to bring through the underage. Mayo are the real deal, but before this summer is out they will not have it is as easy when the big boys come knocking. Id love to know how much money is being pumped into mayo football at present?
Ouch. Beaten by a better team, and well beaten at that. Well done to the Mayo bucks and I wouldn't begrudge Mayo finally winning their grail this year. They're clearly not far off the level needed to achieve it.
We actually dominated the middle when it was still a game, we finally seemed to be figuring out how to break balls properly.
Hard to know what the result means beyond Mayo being AI contenders and us being well off that pace. I'd like a D2 team in the qualifiers as it would mean we learn where we stand against the second tier teams, which is where we need to raise ourselves to in next year's league.
At least Donie made it through a game, hopefully he's fit to start the next day.
Quote from: Never beat the deeler on June 16, 2013, 04:56:03 PM
Trying to follow the game on twitter and Facebook. Would I be right in saying mayo had 8 different scorers from play in first half?
8 in the first half, 12 over all.
Quote from: Collins on June 16, 2013, 05:50:00 PM
The standard of opposition is pretty irrelevant at this stage.
I think it's pretty clear Mayo are just as good if not better than they were last year when they beat Dublin handy enough in an AI semi and only lost to a rabid Donegal in the final.
Think they have to be wary about peaking too early. London/Leitrim aren't going to give them a game so it'll be a while before they need to be at their best.
Beating Ros is hardly peaking early
Quote from: SLIGONIAN on June 16, 2013, 06:09:26 PM
I think this just confirms galway and roscommon have failed to bring through the underage.
Galway have failed to bring through their 02 and 05 All-Ireland winning U-21's (well they won a few Connacht titles but that's about it). It's still far too early to judge whether they can bring though the 2011 and 2013 winning sides. Those lads are still in nappies (in footballing terms) and don't have a strong senior team to blend into so it will take a few years for them to mature physically and mentally.
Good result! Allot of surprise performances good and bad. Freeman good and Dillon bad! But nothing to worry about. Was worried in the first 15 minutes with the Ros domination of possession. The Ros free in front of goal was a minor turning point (at that stage of the game). Well done to all the Rossies who traveled and stayed (to the bitter end). It's not easy, we have been there and in most cases left in our droves. Hope both Galway and Ros get good draws in the back door. We need a strong Connacht Championship. For us this looked the Connacht draw from hell last October and has turned out anything but. Onto Leitrim/London and the Quarters in August! Jez, if everybody is injury free, Horan is going to have a some serious selection problems!
Yet another championship non-show from us Mayo only had to go up 4 points for our lads to drop their heads. We won midfield in the first half but were clueless when we got the ball the passes into the forward line was atrocious. We were even worse with the wind in the 2nd half, when you see a number of Mayo defenders strolling up the field and taking scores without a challenge coming in you know your team has thrown in the towel.
Well done to Mayo much improved outfit from our last championship meeting while we have gone back backwards. TBH i always thought Mayo winning this years Connacht title was formality but i'm not sure what they would have got out of the last two games but i guess we'll wait see.
For us it's back to the drawing board we have some talented players and if (big if) we try to get the best of them the results should improve.
It's very hard to analyse a game like that today. Like FtB, I was worried early on, but for all Ros's pressure and dominance they were only 2 points clear. If that happened in August it'd be game over I'm afraid... Mayo bossed it after going a few points up. And the last few minutes, well I doubt anyone took what happened then seriously. Overall a good performance, but need to improve if we're to reach the semi. Saying that, the defence were tigerish once again, and the forwards were good when they got going. Seamie O'Shea outstanding again. As someone said...25 pages...for that!
Quote from: Farrandeelin on June 16, 2013, 06:52:25 PM
It's very hard to analyse a game like that today. Like FtB, I was worried early on, but for all Ros's pressure and dominance they were only 2 points clear. If that happened in August it'd be game over I'm afraid... Mayo bossed it after going a few points up. And the last few minutes, well I doubt anyone took what happened then seriously. Overall a good performance, but need to improve if we're to reach the semi. Saying that, the defence were tigerish once again, and the forwards were good when they got going. Seamie O'Shea outstanding again. As someone said...25 pages...for that!
Ditto, The way the Mayo setup has evolved, if you get injured your place is gone and hard to get back! Barry Moran, Andy Moran, Conroy, Cillian's places are all under treat! All Good in the long run!
Hi guys,
Tactical analysis of Mayo's win over Roscommon now up
http://action81.com/blog/?p=7334
Emmet
Quote from: emmetryan on June 16, 2013, 07:06:12 PM
Hi guys,
Tactical analysis of Mayo's win over Roscommon now up
http://action81.com/blog/?p=7334
Emmet
I'm sorry Emmet but 'talent' is the laziest excuse for what happened. You're certainly not the only offender on that account and you do the sort of analysis I wish we saw more of but it grates.
There is almost no talent gap between the two teams that played today, indeed most of our players beat those same Mayo players consistently through the underage grades.
So why is there such a big gap, then?
Money, confidence and preparation. The easy thing to say is we had no 'bottle' but confidence is a hard-won trait and one that it's almost impossible to manufacture.
Mayo can afford to go on training trips to Miami while we were reduced to training in a hotel conference room at one point this year.
Years of costly and excellent conditioning work has been huge for Mayo, as it has been for the other top teams.
There was no 'talent' gap at underage, there was none two years ago and there's not really one today. It's far more tangible things that created our failures and Mayo's successes.
Was a little worried early on with all of Roscommons possession but Mayos defensive set up is so good that Ros made little headway.Freeman will get man of the match on the sunday game but for me Sheamus O Shea was the most outstanding player for Mayo.All in all a good win and looking forward to game 3.
By the way Syferus Mayo went on a team holiday to Miami last January and went on there training week to Belmullet in april but don't let the facts get in the way of a good rant.
Quote from: maigheo on June 16, 2013, 07:27:41 PM
Was a little worried early on with all of Roscommons possession but Mayos defensive set up is so good that Ros made little headway.Freeman will get man of the match on the sunday game but for me Sheamus O Shea was the most outstanding player for Mayo.All in all a good win and looking forward to game 3.
Agree Seamie was the Man. If Freeman gets it, no harm, will do his confidence no harm!
Quote from: maigheo on June 16, 2013, 07:35:19 PM
By the way Syferus Mayo went on a team holiday to Miami last January and went on there training week to Belmullet in april but don't let the facts get in the way of a good rant.
I don't think the Mayo County Board paid for the trip to Miami, wasn't it paid for by the GAA due to reaching thefinal last year?
Quote from: maigheo on June 16, 2013, 07:35:19 PM
By the way Syferus Mayo went on a team holiday to Miami last January and went on there training week to Belmullet in april but don't let the facts get in the way of a good rant.
Where does that contradict what I said? They went to the same facilities Donnie Buckley uses on a yearly basis to 'up-skill' himself so it certainly wasn't a party weekend.
We didn't have the benefit of either. You seem to assume I'm sore, but I'm just stating facts. Mayo need to put in that level of spending to compete with the Dublins and Donegals, that's simply the place the sport has reached at the top level.
Funding needs to be pooled at senior and a relatively low cap placed on spending or the situation will become even more farcical in future. The GAA needs to foster a more even playing field in both codes and altering the format of the championship is a simple vanity project unless the elephant in the room that is funding is tackled as well.
It will be important for Mayo to get the free taking sorted out before later in the summer as in O'Connor's absence it didn't look great.
Quote from: BluestackBoy on June 16, 2013, 07:48:20 PM
It will be important for Mayo to get the free taking sorted out before later in the summer as in O'Connor's absence it didn't look great.
Would not be in a panic! How many frees were missed today? Can't remember myself. What i do know is Mcloughlin scored 4 frees and Freeman scored 3. Only placed ball i can remember being missed was a 45 from Clarke (which nearly ended up a flick in goal).
Quote from: From the Bunker on June 16, 2013, 08:06:47 PM
Quote from: BluestackBoy on June 16, 2013, 07:48:20 PM
It will be important for Mayo to get the free taking sorted out before later in the summer as in O'Connor's absence it didn't look great.
Would not be in a panic! How many frees were missed today? Can't remember myself. What i do know is Mcloughlin scored 4 frees and Freeman scored 3. Only placed ball i can remember being missed was a 45 from Clarke (which nearly ended up a flick in goal).
It was worrying seeing so many cooks today, even the back-up keeper had a pop! I think the first three 45m range frees were all took by different players. It worked out today in terms of conversions but it's much more likely to come a cropper in Croke Park and that's not something any title-chasing team can afford.
I suppose Mayo people are hoping CO'C will be back but expecting much from a lad with two serious shoulder injuries in a little over six months is a dangerous thing.
Quote from: Farrandeelin on June 16, 2013, 06:52:25 PM
It's very hard to analyse a game like that today. Like FtB, I was worried early on, but for all Ros's pressure and dominance they were only 2 points clear. If that happened in August it'd be game over I'm afraid... Mayo bossed it after going a few points up. And the last few minutes, well I doubt anyone took what happened then seriously. Overall a good performance, but need to improve if we're to reach the semi. Saying that, the defence were tigerish once again, and the forwards were good when they got going. Seamie O'Shea outstanding again. As someone said...25 pages...for that!
In fairness most of it was Syferus talking shite.
Quote from: seafoid on June 16, 2013, 08:29:44 PM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on June 16, 2013, 06:52:25 PM
It's very hard to analyse a game like that today. Like FtB, I was worried early on, but for all Ros's pressure and dominance they were only 2 points clear. If that happened in August it'd be game over I'm afraid... Mayo bossed it after going a few points up. And the last few minutes, well I doubt anyone took what happened then seriously. Overall a good performance, but need to improve if we're to reach the semi. Saying that, the defence were tigerish once again, and the forwards were good when they got going. Seamie O'Shea outstanding again. As someone said...25 pages...for that!
In fairness most of it was Syferus talking shite.
Passive aggressive much?
Quote from: Syferus on June 16, 2013, 08:24:39 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on June 16, 2013, 08:06:47 PM
Quote from: BluestackBoy on June 16, 2013, 07:48:20 PM
It will be important for Mayo to get the free taking sorted out before later in the summer as in O'Connor's absence it didn't look great.
Would not be in a panic! How many frees were missed today? Can't remember myself. What i do know is Mcloughlin scored 4 frees and Freeman scored 3. Only placed ball i can remember being missed was a 45 from Clarke (which nearly ended up a flick in goal).
It was worrying seeing so many cooks today, even the back-up keeper had a pop! I think the first three 45m range frees were all took by different players. It worked out today in terms of conversions but it's much more likely to come a cropper in Croke Park and that's not something any title-chasing team can afford.
I suppose Mayo people are hoping CO'C will be back but expecting much from a lad with two serious shoulder injuries in a little over six months is a dangerous thing.
Oh the wishful thinking Sy! Ah we'll be alright. Injuries and coping with them are part of the game!
surprised at how bad roscommon were. Jacked it in as well with 20 to go. i'd expect a lot to be booking tickets to the US as we speak
Freeman surprised me in a big way today, and in a good way.
Some of his overhead catches were outstanding. Catching and holding onto the ball has been one of his biggest weakness. His confidence is obviously higher, and today will hopefully bring him on even further. Having Andy back along with a rejuvinated Freeman is almost like two new players.
We lost a worrying amount of the breaks in midfield, but Ros couldn't capatilise on it. That's something we can't afford when we get to Croker (I think we're allowed to assume we'll get there now).
The only other slight concern I'd have is that we failed to score a goal in a game we won so comfortably. There were a couple of chances, but we didn't really carve out any gilt-edged chances bar Richie Feeney's chance at the death.
Quote from: INDIANA on June 16, 2013, 09:15:24 PM
surprised at how bad roscommon were. Jacked it in as well with 20 to go. i'd expect a lot to be booking tickets to the US as we speak
Ah, its hard to blame them (in a way)! It's a long wait to the Round 2 games on July 6th or July 13th and you are going to be meeting a team that is after winning round 1 of the qualifiers and has the feel good factor back. I sincerely hope they get a good draw, get a couple of games and end the season on a relative high. The game this side of the shannon needs healthy Galway and Roscommon sides. We naturally want to beat both and win 10 Nestor Cups in a row. But they become worthless, if this lobsidedness continues. Both naturally will be back and god help us when they are!
Quote from: Tubberman on June 16, 2013, 09:49:45 PM
Freeman surprised me in a big way today, and in a good way.
Some of his overhead catches were outstanding. Catching and holding onto the ball has been one of his biggest weakness. His confidence is obviously higher, and today will hopefully bring him on even further. Having Andy back along with a rejuvinated Freeman is almost like two new players.
We lost a worrying amount of the breaks in midfield, but Ros couldn't capatilise on it. That's something we can't afford when we get to Croker (I think we're allowed to assume we'll get there now).
The only other slight concern I'd have is that we failed to score a goal in a game we won so comfortably. There were a couple of chances, but we didn't really carve out any gilt-edged chances bar Richie Feeney's chance at the death.
Freeman a pleasant surprise. The lack of going for goal especially in the second half where you'd sorta expect to try and carve out a few openings in preparation for big games . I have a sneaky feeling Horan (and his back room team) was trying to hold back today. A comprehensive win was all that was sought after half time (the same the last day v Galway).
It's a journey we're on rather than a destination! - John Evans on the Sunday Game
Think he's got that line wrong! :P
Quote from: From the Bunker on June 16, 2013, 10:48:09 PM
It's a journey we're on rather than a destination! - John Evans on the Sunday Game
Think he's got that line wrong! :P
I was afraid he'd accidentally hit poor James when his hands snapped up during Marty's Six-One interview with both managers.
Probably the only match-up we'd have won today, actually.
Congratulations to Mayo on another ruthless, efficient and professional performance. They never really took the foot of the gas and just like they were in the Galway game there was no show boating or going for glory scores when they were well out of sight.
From a Roscommon point of view we started really well and dominated possession but even then it was ominous looking in terms of how well the Mayo defence dealt with any balls that went in. Even when we were in the lead you just knew we weren't scoring with enough ease to make it count.
The match was over as a contest 10 minutes before half time. We looked from them onwards as if we were going though the motions. There was no heart or fight in Roscommon. They only lost the second half 8-5 and got on alot of ball but never looked purposeful with it.
Mayo haven't just improved in terms of strength and conditioning. Their ability to take scores from play has vastly improved also. They will probably win the Connacht final by a greater margin than today or even the Galway game but you can only beat what's in front of you and they appear very focussed on consistently hitting their own high standards.
Roscommon have no reason to go booking transatlantic flights and throwing in the towel on championship 2013. Mayo are a member of a top 6 club that are miles ahead of the next tier of which we are part of. If the Rossies get the heads down and refocus + are lucky with the back door draw they still can win a match or two and together with today's humiliation learn from the experience.
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It was worrying seeing so many cooks today, even the back-up keeper had a pop! I think the first three 45m range frees were all took by different players. It worked out today in terms of conversions but it's much more likely to come a cropper in Croke Park and that's not something any title-chasing team can afford.
I suppose Mayo people are hoping CO'C will be back but expecting much from a lad with two serious shoulder injuries in a little over six months is a dangerous thing.
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Thanks for the worrying snagglepuss or snafflepuss or whatever you call yourself, tis very touching you'd be worried about Mayo's free taking. We'll ask Donie Buckley to give you a shout for a few tips on coaching the free taking
Quote from: ross matt on June 16, 2013, 11:40:21 PM
Congratulations to Mayo on another ruthless, efficient and professional performance. They never really took the foot of the gas and just like they were in the Galway game there was no show boating or going for glory scores when they were well out of sight.
From a Roscommon point of view we started really well and dominated possession but even then it was ominous looking in terms of how well the Mayo defence dealt with any balls that went in. Even when we were in the lead you just knew we weren't scoring with enough ease to make it count.
The match was over as a contest 10 minutes before half time. We looked from them onwards as if we were going though the motions. There was no heart or fight in Roscommon. They only lost the second half 8-5 and got on alot of ball but never looked purposeful with it.
Mayo haven't just improved in terms of strength and conditioning. Their ability to take scores from play has vastly improved also. They will probably win the Connacht final by a greater margin than today or even the Galway game but you can only beat what's in front of you and they appear very focussed on consistently hitting their own high standards.
Roscommon have no reason to go booking transatlantic flights and throwing in the towel on championship 2013. Mayo are a member of a top 6 club that are miles ahead of the next tier of which we are part of. If the Rossies get the heads down and refocus + are lucky with the back door draw they still can win a match or two and together with today's humiliation learn from the experience.
Good post Ross Matt, there is a journey to be had with this county football craic and it is an investment of years that might and might not pay off. Mayo are further down the road at the moment than any other Connacht county but the cycle of football like all sports is a short one and all can change with one win/loss. To see how Laois got to an All Ireland 1/4 final last year and maybe should of beat Dublin after being beat in Leinster by Longford in 1st round. To see 4 or so of their players fly off after being beat this year really holds back any prospect of them pushing on to any extent. Roscommon were at such a low ebb towards the end of the noughties that any progress was always most likely going to be quite gradual, regardless of underage potential. It might take a few years more to get the older players to be true leaders and an inspiration for the younger bucks but hopefully they will as Connacht football needs a right competitive championship. Almost 20,000 at game today with the result never in doubt, there is a public there that needs servicing.
LOL @ Syferus
Roscommon were tactically inept.
Plenty of opportunities to work the ball into at least the 20-30 yrd line in that game but deciding to take pot shots from the 40-50 yard line instead. Madness.
Was watching in the pub and remember saying a few times that any second that fella is gonna actually try one from from the 45 yard line.Sure enough.........
Ironic thing was that said players were being closed down at that distance due to mayo defending high up the pitch whereas two or three more passes and they actually would have had more room to shoot.
Mayo weren't actually forcing them to shoot from that distance.
Tbf I think football is moving to a level where the happy go lucky punting from that distance just isn't a credible plan a, b, c or x anymore.
It's just too low percentage against a team like Mayo anyway.
Mayo strong Ross just naive.
Not that great to watch tbf.
Game 2 - Job done. Game panned out the way I expected. Didn't get out of 3rd gear, I can't remember one big hit, seemed like we were having a look at Roscommon before settling into the game.
Still a nice bit of work to do even with playing well. Sloppy for the last 20, misplaced passes and wrong shot selection a few times.
To be in contention with Donegal/Dublin(where we want/need to be), you have to be as close to flawless as you can be.
Two more rounds of Club Championship before August bank holiday weekend to navigate without injuries( I'll be lighting candles those weekends).
QuoteRoscommon were tactically inept.
Plenty of opportunities to work the ball into at least the 20-30 yrd line in that game but deciding to take pot shots from the 40-50 yard line instead. Madness.
Yes and you have only mentioned the attacking. The defending was hopelessly naive. With us only playing 4 forwards in a direct line for the first half hour and for Ross to be following the other lads up the field and not to have a sweeper or spare man in the backs was incredible to see. Also as soon as Freeman bate the fullback to the first ball the full back should have been moved, instead Evans was gesturing to him on the sideline to break the ball.
Anyhow, well done to our lads they seemed to have a good plan for the first 10 minutes and as soon as we got playing ball into the forwards we were a threat on all our attacks. Very impressed with such a spread of scores and the our best forwards on the day were nearly our half backs.
Quote from: ballinaman on June 17, 2013, 08:55:48 AM
Game 2 - Job done. Game panned out the way I expected. Didn't get out of 3rd gear, I can't remember one big hit, seemed like we were having a look at Roscommon before settling into the game.
Still a nice bit of work to do even with playing well. Sloppy for the last 20, misplaced passes and wrong shot selection a few times.
To be in contention with Donegal/Dublin(where we want/need to be), you have to be as close to flawless as you can be.
Two more rounds of Club Championship before August bank holiday weekend to navigate without injuries( I'll be lighting candles those weekends).
You can't ask for more in June. You can only beat what is in front of you.
Seems like a very well organised Mayo setup and great to see Andy Moran playing a role .
Mayo are not better than Roscommon. They just have different water.
That gets the ball over the bar. It is something to do with homeopathy.
Hi guys,
Video analysis of how Mayo get their defenders into attack up here http://action81.com/blog/?p=7338
Thanks
Emmet
What's the news on Cillian O' Connor. Is he out for the rest of the summer?
I think James Horan was one of the stars yesterday.
Before the championship started, I wouldn't have given Alan Freeman, Donie Vaughan or Richie Feeney much chance of getting a starting place on the side.
I thought both Alan and Donie have underperformed throughout last season and Richie seemed to be forever doomed to a place on the subs' bench.
It's fair to say that very many Mayo followers were of the same opinion.
All three played their part in Salthill but yesterday they well and truly silenced their critics- me anyway.
James Horan can be thanked for this. He's turning out to be one of the shrewdest managers on the go often gets overlooked when the plaudits are being handed out.
Keep 'er going, James; we're on a roll. ;D
The main thing that I took from the match is how critical the fitness of Cillian O'Connor is, purely from an open play perspective. He was the one with the vision and composure to deliver the final pass for goals v galway and it was something that was missing yesterday. If he was on the pitch I think we'd have raised a few green flags.
Something I've noticed alot of from this side is their ability to solo with the wrong foot and for it to appear to come naturally - Its something boyle, dillon, COC, Higgins are fully adept at, handy for getting you out of tight situations.
Plenty of positives but I saw plenty to work on - distribution being the main one. Like someone else has said hopefully we can get through the club championship unscathed - think we're due a bit of luck with injuries at this stage!
Quote from: stephenite on June 17, 2013, 04:01:01 AM
LOL @ Syferus
Your reaction gives me the win on aggregate, delicious :)
Quote from: Syferus on June 17, 2013, 02:43:37 PM
Quote from: stephenite on June 17, 2013, 04:01:01 AM
LOL @ Syferus
Your reaction gives me the win on aggregate, delicious :)
Had you not responded to tell him ::)
Quote from: mayogodhelpus@gmail.com on June 17, 2013, 03:11:31 PM
Quote from: Syferus on June 17, 2013, 02:43:37 PM
Quote from: stephenite on June 17, 2013, 04:01:01 AM
LOL @ Syferus
Your reaction gives me the win on aggregate, delicious :)
Had you not responded to tell him ::)
There's no room for subtlety on a sports forum, boss. I can teach you more but first I have cattle to rustle.
Quote from: spuds on June 17, 2013, 03:29:19 AM
Quote from: ross matt on June 16, 2013, 11:40:21 PM
Congratulations to Mayo on another ruthless, efficient and professional performance. They never really took the foot of the gas and just like they were in the Galway game there was no show boating or going for glory scores when they were well out of sight.
From a Roscommon point of view we started really well and dominated possession but even then it was ominous looking in terms of how well the Mayo defence dealt with any balls that went in. Even when we were in the lead you just knew we weren't scoring with enough ease to make it count.
The match was over as a contest 10 minutes before half time. We looked from them onwards as if we were going though the motions. There was no heart or fight in Roscommon. They only lost the second half 8-5 and got on alot of ball but never looked purposeful with it.
Mayo haven't just improved in terms of strength and conditioning. Their ability to take scores from play has vastly improved also. They will probably win the Connacht final by a greater margin than today or even the Galway game but you can only beat what's in front of you and they appear very focussed on consistently hitting their own high standards.
Roscommon have no reason to go booking transatlantic flights and throwing in the towel on championship 2013. Mayo are a member of a top 6 club that are miles ahead of the next tier of which we are part of. If the Rossies get the heads down and refocus + are lucky with the back door draw they still can win a match or two and together with today's humiliation learn from the experience.
Good post Ross Matt, there is a journey to be had with this county football craic and it is an investment of years that might and might not pay off. Mayo are further down the road at the moment than any other Connacht county but the cycle of football like all sports is a short one and all can change with one win/loss. To see how Laois got to an All Ireland 1/4 final last year and maybe should of beat Dublin after being beat in Leinster by Longford in 1st round. To see 4 or so of their players fly off after being beat this year really holds back any prospect of them pushing on to any extent. Roscommon were at such a low ebb towards the end of the noughties that any progress was always most likely going to be quite gradual, regardless of underage potential. It might take a few years more to get the older players to be true leaders and an inspiration for the younger bucks but hopefully they will as Connacht football needs a right competitive championship. Almost 20,000 at game today with the result never in doubt, there is a public there that needs servicing.
You'd need 5/6 very good teams in a row to make the underage success stick.
Roscommon looked badly conditioned to me yesterday for an inter county side with a serious lack of top end pace through the team.
Surprising for a county with relative underage success recently.
Quote from: INDIANA on June 17, 2013, 06:43:06 PM
Quote from: spuds on June 17, 2013, 03:29:19 AM
Quote from: ross matt on June 16, 2013, 11:40:21 PM
Congratulations to Mayo on another ruthless, efficient and professional performance. They never really took the foot of the gas and just like they were in the Galway game there was no show boating or going for glory scores when they were well out of sight.
From a Roscommon point of view we started really well and dominated possession but even then it was ominous looking in terms of how well the Mayo defence dealt with any balls that went in. Even when we were in the lead you just knew we weren't scoring with enough ease to make it count.
The match was over as a contest 10 minutes before half time. We looked from them onwards as if we were going though the motions. There was no heart or fight in Roscommon. They only lost the second half 8-5 and got on alot of ball but never looked purposeful with it.
Mayo haven't just improved in terms of strength and conditioning. Their ability to take scores from play has vastly improved also. They will probably win the Connacht final by a greater margin than today or even the Galway game but you can only beat what's in front of you and they appear very focussed on consistently hitting their own high standards.
Roscommon have no reason to go booking transatlantic flights and throwing in the towel on championship 2013. Mayo are a member of a top 6 club that are miles ahead of the next tier of which we are part of. If the Rossies get the heads down and refocus + are lucky with the back door draw they still can win a match or two and together with today's humiliation learn from the experience.
Good post Ross Matt, there is a journey to be had with this county football craic and it is an investment of years that might and might not pay off. Mayo are further down the road at the moment than any other Connacht county but the cycle of football like all sports is a short one and all can change with one win/loss. To see how Laois got to an All Ireland 1/4 final last year and maybe should of beat Dublin after being beat in Leinster by Longford in 1st round. To see 4 or so of their players fly off after being beat this year really holds back any prospect of them pushing on to any extent. Roscommon were at such a low ebb towards the end of the noughties that any progress was always most likely going to be quite gradual, regardless of underage potential. It might take a few years more to get the older players to be true leaders and an inspiration for the younger bucks but hopefully they will as Connacht football needs a right competitive championship. Almost 20,000 at game today with the result never in doubt, there is a public there that needs servicing.
You'd need 5/6 very good teams in a row to make the underage success stick.
Roscommon looked badly conditioned to me yesterday for an inter county side with a serious lack of top end pace through the team.
Surprising for a county with relative underage success recently.
At U-21 level 2008,2009,2010,2011,2012 we have beaten Mayo three times the two we lost we were very closing to winning. Then you have this years U-21 team that lost to Galway after extra time. Underage teams,players are there but it's about bringing them through and i wouldn't be so quick to write off our underage players like some have.
What sort of time frame are you looking at for these underage lads to become stars of their senior team.
I look at likes of K.Higgans , he was on senior team in 06 when he won u-21 title.
I know it has taken some of them longer to establish themselves as top seniors but not all that much longer, AOS is 22 and an established top midfielder , some would say one of the finest in the country.
Cillian o Connor was u-21 this year and he also is a recognised top player.
My point is i think the Ross are waiting for something to happen automatically , that might not happen imo for lots of reasons, main one being ye have no players there to blend them with or bring them on.
Really tough times ahead for Roscommon.
Mayo look really really good, quality all over the park, i believe we will win the all Ireland.
Quote from: larryin89 on June 17, 2013, 07:22:59 PM
What sort of time frame are you looking at for these underage lads to become stars of their senior team.
I look at likes of K.Higgans , he was on senior team in 06 when he won u-21 title.
I know it has taken some of them longer to establish themselves as top seniors but not all that much longer, AOS is 22 and an established top midfielder , some would say one of the finest in the country.
Cillian o Connor was u-21 this year and he also is a recognised top player.
My point is i think the Ross are waiting for something to happen automatically , that might not happen imo for lots of reasons, main one being ye have no players there to blend them with or bring them on.
Really tough times ahead for Roscommon.
Mayo look really really good, quality all over the park, i believe we will win the all Ireland.
Keith Higgins walked onto a team that was about to contest it's second AI final in three years, CO'C a team going to the AISF and AI final in his first two years. We've been building from pretty much square one post-Maughan, as late as 2011 were were in D4. The 2006 minors are looked to as experienced players but they're only 24 and can't be expected to become veterns just because there's not many older than them.
Basically trying to compare development arcs between counties is a fool's game. What's progress to one county isn't to another.
Patience and planning remain the key words for us.
How many underage/club AI's had the Donegal squad of last year? What is the record of Kerry at underage/club over the last 10 years up to their last AI success in 2009? Both just trickled in players year after year. In Donegals case, they just needed a good coach.
Quote from: Syferus on June 17, 2013, 08:52:43 PM
Quote from: larryin89 on June 17, 2013, 07:22:59 PM
What sort of time frame are you looking at for these underage lads to become stars of their senior team.
I look at likes of K.Higgans , he was on senior team in 06 when he won u-21 title.
I know it has taken some of them longer to establish themselves as top seniors but not all that much longer, AOS is 22 and an established top midfielder , some would say one of the finest in the country.
Cillian o Connor was u-21 this year and he also is a recognised top player.
My point is i think the Ross are waiting for something to happen automatically , that might not happen imo for lots of reasons, main one being ye have no players there to blend them with or bring them on.
Really tough times ahead for Roscommon.
Mayo look really really good, quality all over the park, i believe we will win the all Ireland.
Keith Higgins walked onto a team that was about to contest it's second AI final in three years, CO'C a team going to the AISF and AI final in his first two years. We've been building from pretty much square one post-Maughan, as late as 2011 were were in D4. The 2006 minors are looked to as experienced players but they're only 24 and can't be expected to become veterns just because there's not many older than them.
Basically trying to compare development arcs between counties is a fool's game. What's progress to one county isn't to another.
Patience and planning remain the key words for us.
In fairness you've won one all-ireland minor in 06ish and contested one all-ireland u21 final in 2012
Galway have won 2 all-ireland u21's and aren't next to near anything at senior level.
We've won a rake of underage titles at leinster level at hurling and beaten kilkenny several times and are still miles behind them at senior level.
I'm not convinced there will be any revolution for Roscommon simply from patience. Underage titles can be a curse at times as lads go onto senior panels expecting things to happen. Senior is a massive step up from u21. If you get 3 good seniors from an u21 team you've done well
Quote from: Lar Naparka on June 17, 2013, 01:27:35 PM
I think James Horan was one of the stars yesterday.
Before the championship started, I wouldn't have given Alan Freeman, Donie Vaughan or Richie Feeney much chance of getting a starting place on the side.
I thought both Alan and Donie have underperformed throughout last season and Richie seemed to be forever doomed to a place on the subs' bench.
It's fair to say that very many Mayo followers were of the same opinion.
All three played their part in Salthill but yesterday they well and truly silenced their critics- me anyway.
James Horan can be thanked for this. He's turning out to be one of the shrewdest managers on the go often gets overlooked when the plaudits are being handed out.
Keep 'er going, James; we're on a roll. ;D
Well said Lar.
Quote from: INDIANA on June 17, 2013, 09:33:21 PM
Quote from: Syferus on June 17, 2013, 08:52:43 PM
Quote from: larryin89 on June 17, 2013, 07:22:59 PM
What sort of time frame are you looking at for these underage lads to become stars of their senior team.
I look at likes of K.Higgans , he was on senior team in 06 when he won u-21 title.
I know it has taken some of them longer to establish themselves as top seniors but not all that much longer, AOS is 22 and an established top midfielder , some would say one of the finest in the country.
Cillian o Connor was u-21 this year and he also is a recognised top player.
My point is i think the Ross are waiting for something to happen automatically , that might not happen imo for lots of reasons, main one being ye have no players there to blend them with or bring them on.
Really tough times ahead for Roscommon.
Mayo look really really good, quality all over the park, i believe we will win the all Ireland.
Keith Higgins walked onto a team that was about to contest it's second AI final in three years, CO'C a team going to the AISF and AI final in his first two years. We've been building from pretty much square one post-Maughan, as late as 2011 were were in D4. The 2006 minors are looked to as experienced players but they're only 24 and can't be expected to become veterns just because there's not many older than them.
Basically trying to compare development arcs between counties is a fool's game. What's progress to one county isn't to another.
Patience and planning remain the key words for us.
In fairness you've won one all-ireland minor in 06ish and contested one all-ireland u21 final in 2012
Galway have won 2 all-ireland u21's and aren't next to near anything at senior level.
We've won a rake of underage titles at leinster level at hurling and beaten kilkenny several times and are still miles behind them at senior level.
I'm not convinced there will be any revolution for Roscommon simply from patience. Underage titles can be a curse at times as lads go onto senior panels expecting things to happen. Senior is a massive step up from u21. If you get 3 good seniors from an u21 team you've done well
Hence the
planning part.
Quote from: INDIANA on June 17, 2013, 09:33:21 PM
Quote from: Syferus on June 17, 2013, 08:52:43 PM
Quote from: larryin89 on June 17, 2013, 07:22:59 PM
What sort of time frame are you looking at for these underage lads to become stars of their senior team.
I look at likes of K.Higgans , he was on senior team in 06 when he won u-21 title.
I know it has taken some of them longer to establish themselves as top seniors but not all that much longer, AOS is 22 and an established top midfielder , some would say one of the finest in the country.
Cillian o Connor was u-21 this year and he also is a recognised top player.
My point is i think the Ross are waiting for something to happen automatically , that might not happen imo for lots of reasons, main one being ye have no players there to blend them with or bring them on.
Really tough times ahead for Roscommon.
Mayo look really really good, quality all over the park, i believe we will win the all Ireland.
Keith Higgins walked onto a team that was about to contest it's second AI final in three years, CO'C a team going to the AISF and AI final in his first two years. We've been building from pretty much square one post-Maughan, as late as 2011 were were in D4. The 2006 minors are looked to as experienced players but they're only 24 and can't be expected to become veterns just because there's not many older than them.
Basically trying to compare development arcs between counties is a fool's game. What's progress to one county isn't to another.
Patience and planning remain the key words for us.
In fairness you've won one all-ireland minor in 06ish and contested one all-ireland u21 final in 2012
Galway have won 2 all-ireland u21's and aren't next to near anything at senior level.
We've won a rake of underage titles at leinster level at hurling and beaten kilkenny several times and are still miles behind them at senior level.
I'm not convinced there will be any revolution for Roscommon simply from patience. Underage titles can be a curse at times as lads go onto senior panels expecting things to happen. Senior is a massive step up from u21. If you get 3 good seniors from an u21 team you've done well
The Mad thing is that there are 10 players who played in Mayos u-21 2006 AI in the present squad!
Quote from: INDIANA on June 17, 2013, 09:33:21 PM
Quote from: Syferus on June 17, 2013, 08:52:43 PM
Quote from: larryin89 on June 17, 2013, 07:22:59 PM
What sort of time frame are you looking at for these underage lads to become stars of their senior team.
I look at likes of K.Higgans , he was on senior team in 06 when he won u-21 title.
I know it has taken some of them longer to establish themselves as top seniors but not all that much longer, AOS is 22 and an established top midfielder , some would say one of the finest in the country.
Cillian o Connor was u-21 this year and he also is a recognised top player.
My point is i think the Ross are waiting for something to happen automatically , that might not happen imo for lots of reasons, main one being ye have no players there to blend them with or bring them on.
Really tough times ahead for Roscommon.
Mayo look really really good, quality all over the park, i believe we will win the all Ireland.
Keith Higgins walked onto a team that was about to contest it's second AI final in three years, CO'C a team going to the AISF and AI final in his first two years. We've been building from pretty much square one post-Maughan, as late as 2011 were were in D4. The 2006 minors are looked to as experienced players but they're only 24 and can't be expected to become veterns just because there's not many older than them.
Basically trying to compare development arcs between counties is a fool's game. What's progress to one county isn't to another.
Patience and planning remain the key words for us.
In fairness you've won one all-ireland minor in 06ish and contested one all-ireland u21 final in 2012
Galway have won 2 all-ireland u21's and aren't next to near anything at senior level.
We've won a rake of underage titles at leinster level at hurling and beaten kilkenny several times and are still miles behind them at senior level.
I'm not convinced there will be any revolution for Roscommon simply from patience. Underage titles can be a curse at times as lads go onto senior panels expecting things to happen. Senior is a massive step up from u21. If you get 3 good seniors from an u21 team you've done well
I agree with you Indiana on most of this post and your previous one. I think there are two or three reasons that I can see for Roscommon's lack of progress at senior level. Two years ago under of O'Donnell they were taking shape having one a Connacht title the previous year and running Mayo to 2 points in the 2011 final plus competing well in Croker with Tyrone for alot of that back door match.
Fergal left then and the team regressed disasterously under the management that followed. Mayo in the meantime kicked on in terms of strenght/conditioning/tactics/big match experience etc. Hence you're correct in saying that we were miles of them in terms of fitness yesterday. I think if O'Donnell had remained there would have been steady significant progress... maybe not enough to win yesterday but certainly enough to be competitive and to have been promoted from division 3.
Which brings me to my next point.... Mayo clearly have benefited from playing top class teams in their current division 1 league. In terms of skill.... pace.... speed of thought + big game croker experience. This has hardened them alot.
Our successful underage sides are coming on to a senior side that is still stuck (deservedly so) in division 3. That gulf in standard is consequently reflected in their championship performance and development as adult players.
I'm also not convinced winning and constantly competing for an AI club title is particularly helpful to a county team if alot of your best players are not with the county squad for long periods as a result. Senan Kilbride and Karol Mannion yesterday were shadows of the players they were in Croker on Paddys day. Not for a moment taking from the Brigids or Crossmaglens of this world but there is still a massive jump from high level club football to standard county.
Roscommon showed very little heart or leadership yesterday. Perhaps they've become too nice and stylish as footballers. Cregg was the one person I expected who would take the match by the scruff of the neck but he was untypically poor.
I wouldnt write them off. There are some fine footballers on that squad and in the back door (if they dont drop the heads) they are capable of a win or two if they avoid the likes of Tyrone. They are miles off the Mayo's of this world now but so are most sides with the exception of Donegal, Dublin, Kerry, Cork & Tyrone.
It's a concern though that underage success is not filtering through. Galway must be the most successful underage county in the last decade and their senior record has been abysmal in the same time period. The step up from minor/u-21 to senior is a much bigger one than it used to be.
Quote from: INDIANA on June 17, 2013, 09:33:21 PM
I'm not convinced there will be any revolution for Roscommon simply from patience. Underage titles can be a curse at times as lads go onto senior panels expecting things to happen. Senior is a massive step up from u21. If you get 3 good seniors from an u21 team you've done well
Yes it can be a curse especially if you win All Ireland title some young lads see themselves as stars before making the step up to senior level. In our case apart from winning at odd Connacht title our minors,U-21 the last five years haven't won All Irelands but they have been every bit as good as the Mayo,Galway at underage.
As for yesterday we played against seasoned experienced outfit, the Mayo we faced yesterday compared to 2011 team was worlds apart. We made 8 changes from our last championship game (too many IMO) and of course are now under new managment TBH it was always going to difficult game for us it's just disappointing that we couldn't stick to our working game plan for longer.
Collins,O'Malley,the two Dalys,two Smiths,Compton,Cathal Shine etc are only starting out at senior level it takes time to make the step up some will do it some won't. The only experenced players we had in our starting 15 was Sean McDermott,Mannion,Senan Kilbride,Finneran,Cregg and apart from Cregg none of them are leaders and all of them haven't even beaten Mayo at underage level.
Would you not see Mannion as a leader?
As far as Connacht goes anyway, Mayo have moved onto a different level to the rest in terms of professional preparation, strength and conditioning programs, tactical approach to the modern game, etc, etc. The other Connacht counties may think they are doing enough preparation but they are not. It's that simple. The game has moved on from 10 or even 5 years ago. Syferus does have a point in saying that Galway or Roscommon lads are well used to beating Mayo at underage (some of the very same players now on the Mayo senior team) so how has such a gap been allowed to develop at senior? Granted this gap won't last forever as every team has a natural life cycle but it's certainly a very large one at present
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As far as Connacht goes anyway, Mayo have moved onto a different level to the rest in terms of professional preparation, strength and conditioning programs, tactical approach to the modern game, etc, etc. The other Connacht counties may think they are doing enough preparation but they are not. It's that simple. The game has moved on from 10 or even 5 years ago. Syferus does have a point in saying that Galway or Roscommon lads are well used to beating Mayo at underage (some of the very same players now on the Mayo senior team) so how has such a gap been allowed to develop at senior? Granted this gap won't last forever as every team has a natural life cycle but it's certainly a very large one at present
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Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on June 17, 2013, 10:15:03 PM
As far as Connacht goes anyway, Mayo have moved onto a different level to the rest in terms of professional preparation, strength and conditioning programs, tactical approach to the modern game, etc, etc. The other Connacht counties may think they are doing enough preparation but they are not. It's that simple. The game has moved on from 10 or even 5 years ago. Syferus does have a point in saying that Galway or Roscommon lads are well used to beating Mayo at underage (some of the very same players now on the Mayo senior team) so how has such a gap been allowed to develop at senior? Granted this gap won't last forever as every team has a natural life cycle but it's certainly a very large one at present
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A lot of that is down to Horan and his team to be fair.
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Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on June 17, 2013, 10:15:03 PM
As far as Connacht goes anyway, Mayo have moved onto a different level to the rest in terms of professional preparation, strength and conditioning programs, tactical approach to the modern game, etc, etc. The other Connacht counties may think they are doing enough preparation but they are not. It's that simple. The game has moved on from 10 or even 5 years ago. Syferus does have a point in saying that Galway or Roscommon lads are well used to beating Mayo at underage (some of the very same players now on the Mayo senior team) so how has such a gap been allowed to develop at senior? Granted this gap won't last forever as every team has a natural life cycle but it's certainly a very large one at present
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Brolly hit the nail on the head a few weeks ago when he said that many teams can be going through the motions in thinking they are training hard and they are up to a certain level. Just like Galway and Roscommon who were in their their divisional cocoons over the spring. Mayo are in a cocoon of Connacht football at the moment, what looks like a different level may not be as high a level when they meet the (so called) big boys.
Mayo were superb yesterday and the last day out against Galway. However they are spending insane money that they don't have. As an operation they could be the first county to be wound up.
I know a lad from Mayo that has the hotel booked for September already.
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Mayo were superb yesterday and the last day out against Galway. However they are spending insane money that they don't have. As an operation they could be the first county to be wound up.
Care to fill us in?
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I know a lad from Mayo that has the hotel booked for September already.
Really, what's on in September?
I spotted the fella with the peaked cap from Strokestown after the game. I wouldn't like to be beside him incase he'd start going on one of his rants!
Quote from: Jinxy on June 17, 2013, 10:54:07 PM
I know a lad from Mayo that has the hotel booked for September already.
Those deckin' Mayo lads.
St. Patrick was in flying form yesterday too, it looks like he's got a new banner as well - something about Grace Kelly and Westport.
Quote from: Rudi on June 17, 2013, 10:49:20 PM
Mayo were superb yesterday and the last day out against Galway. However they are spending insane money that they don't have. As an operation they could be the first county to be wound up.
Big statement.... evidence... back up please?
I'm not sure what the answer is for Roscommon but looking through comments on their own board as well I think many are looking in the wrong places.
Comparing Ros and Mayo at underage is comforting but a waste of time.
What would you prefer? Win a minor or U21 AI or produce a senior player like Aidan O Sé or Michael Murphy who were not underage winners. Well organised underage teams can often beat teams that may have 1 or 2 players that will be serious senior players. Mayo have been slobbering around at underage for years but individuals keep popping up. In 08? we were seconds away from winning a minor AI and only Aidan, Hennelly and Kevin Keane made senior out of it. Should there have been more if we happened to hold on and win it?
I also think that some of the Roscommon go-to players are overrated. Comparing Cregg to McLoughlin is a joke but Cregg is a good player. Donie Shine is becoming a latter day Derek Duggan and Senan Kilbride - while tecnically very good- looks in poor condition for IC level and maybe as a result does not appear fully clued in. I was impressed by McDermott - again, Keenan, Niall Daly. Smith is a good footballer and Devaney has something but I wouldn t have let him on the pitch with a head like that. ffs, what s that about? Mannion, like his clubman Kilbride, is tecnically all there but again not quite right.
Now I m not sure where I m going with this but Mayo came from nowhere after the 2010 pits. Boyle was ruined and only returned last year and is now a team leader. Parsons was lost. The point is, this has not been a planned road for Mayo football. If, for example, Tommy Lyons had got the gig we would not be looking at what we are looking at now.
Annoying thing from my point of view is that the 06-10 period was avoidable and we may well have done better last couple of years if we hadn t been so set back in those years. Still, this is a young team, and I for one, am proud of them. I ve never seen a Mayo team so focused and organised. That wouldn t be hard I suppose but it is unusual for likes of me. 97/98 we could have been the best in the country but there was flakiness in some aspects that was very costly.
So it s a good time to be a Mayo man - even if The Grail itself might elude us. That s sport, but this team is working at becoming champions rather than hoping it might happen. Fair play to them for surviving the horror years and the ridicule of the general public. I hope for themselves that they get to the summit.
Great to win yesterday, Roscommon did well on the breaking ball throughout but weren't able to take their chances when they had them early on and this prevented them from asking any real questions of Mayo. The game was won in the last 15 minutes of the first half, after playing reasonably well up until that, the Mayo lads started using the wind to pop over scores from out around the 40 without being under any pressure from Roscommon who must have expected them to try to work it in or something? After that, the Rossie heads dropped and they were lucky it was only a 12 point gap at the end.
Pretty much everyone played well although Dillon was well off the boil for some reason. Coen looked decent when he came on and it was good to see Andy get more game time. B Moran could find it hard to get back into the team when he's fit again – good problem to have though. We badly need CO'C back though for frees alone – if we missed 2/3 frees yesterday under very little pressure, it'd be more on a bigger day.
Despite a 12 pt win, there's a lot to work on for Mayo – the play got very sloppy towards the end (Dillon & Feeney missed handy goal chances). Some of the hand passing in the first half when Roscommon put pressure on the short kickouts was messy enough and would be punished by a better, harder-hitting team.
It was interesting that Horan replaced two of the full back line in the second half – wonder what his thinking is there? Giving the lads game time as he expects to use them later in the summer? Clarke also replaced at half time was strange to see.
These kind of games are of no use to Mayo though – while Feeney & Freeman played well yesterday, you'd have to wonder how they'll fare against a better defence? Donegal have already played Tyrone and are playing Down this weekend – two division 1 teams – where they'll learn a lot more than we have so far this year.
I'd expect that the Rossies will get a win or two in the qualifiers (assuming they don't come up against Tyrone) and could have a reasonable summer yet. In relation to the progress of the team – you only have to go back three years to when Mayo were beaten by Sligo & Longford so it doesn't take that much to go from being at a low ebb to being reasonably close to the top.
Just checked there, 9 of the team that started v Longford in 2010 started yesterday (some positional changes) and 3 more were on the bench (2 of whom would have potentially started had they been fit). The three missing are Howley (in Australia?), Harte (banjaxed knee?) and C Mort.
Clarke
Barrett Cafferkey Howley
Vaughan Higgins Mc Loughlin
S O Se Harte
Moran A O Se Dillon
Mort Moran Freeman
Quote from: moysider on June 17, 2013, 11:42:50 PM
What would you prefer? Win a minor or U21 AI or produce a senior player like Aidan O Sé or Michael Murphy who were not underage winners.
Murphy,O Sé both won provincial underage titles. For some the hurt of losing underage All Ireland can drive them on at senior level, it certainly worked for Murphy.
Freeman was suppose to have done well for Mayo. No surprise, saw him play college football 2 years ago with DIT and he outstanding. Been a few years on the panel without nailing down his place. Some good competition when O Connor, Moran fully fit, Jason Doherty and Michael Moyles are all available.
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Freeman was suppose to have done well for Mayo. No surprise, saw him play college football 2 years ago with DIT and he outstanding. Been a few years on the panel without nailing down his place. Some good competition when O Connor, Moran fully fit, Jason Doherty and Michael Moyles are all available.
If it was any other day I'd have been really happy for Alan. He seems to be benefiting from a decent run in the team and beating up on Leitrim/London is all he needs to do get a starting slot in Croke Park now.
His second big catch in the first half was a thing of absolute beauty. If he can produce that level of performance more consistently Mayo have found the 14 they're looking for.
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Quote from: moysider on June 17, 2013, 11:42:50 PM
What would you prefer? Win a minor or U21 AI or produce a senior player like Aidan O Sé or Michael Murphy who were not underage winners.
Murphy,O Sé both won provincial underage titles. For some the hurt of losing underage All Ireland can drive them on at senior level, it certainly worked for Murphy.
I don t understand?
Like Mayo winning a provincial minor ? 5/6 a decade should be the norm if anybody was bothered too much.
My point is that those two are massive talents. I suspect they dragged their respective teams along as far as they got.
Quote from: moysider on June 17, 2013, 11:42:50 PM
I'm not sure what the answer is for Roscommon but looking through comments on their own board as well I think many are looking in the wrong places.
Comparing Ros and Mayo at underage is comforting but a waste of time.
What would you prefer? Win a minor or U21 AI or produce a senior player like Aidan O Sé or Michael Murphy who were not underage winners. Well organised underage teams can often beat teams that may have 1 or 2 players that will be serious senior players. Mayo have been slobbering around at underage for years but individuals keep popping up. In 08? we were seconds away from winning a minor AI and only Aidan, Hennelly and Kevin Keane made senior out of it. Should there have been more if we happened to hold on and win it?
I also think that some of the Roscommon go-to players are overrated. Comparing Cregg to McLoughlin is a joke but Cregg is a good player. Donie Shine is becoming a latter day Derek Duggan and Senan Kilbride - while tecnically very good- looks in poor condition for IC level and maybe as a result does not appear fully clued in. I was impressed by McDermott - again, Keenan, Niall Daly. Smith is a good footballer and Devaney has something but I wouldn t have let him on the pitch with a head like that. ffs, what s that about? Mannion, like his clubman Kilbride, is tecnically all there but again not quite right.
Now I m not sure where I m going with this but Mayo came from nowhere after the 2010 pits. Boyle was ruined and only returned last year and is now a team leader. Parsons was lost. The point is, this has not been a planned road for Mayo football. If, for example, Tommy Lyons had got the gig we would not be looking at what we are looking at now.
Annoying thing from my point of view is that the 06-10 period was avoidable and we may well have done better last couple of years if we hadn t been so set back in those years. Still, this is a young team, and I for one, am proud of them. I ve never seen a Mayo team so focused and organised. That wouldn t be hard I suppose but it is unusual for likes of me. 97/98 we could have been the best in the country but there was flakiness in some aspects that was very costly.
So it s a good time to be a Mayo man - even if The Grail itself might elude us. That s sport, but this team is working at becoming champions rather than hoping it might happen. Fair play to them for surviving the horror years and the ridicule of the general public. I hope for themselves that they get to the summit.
Great post Moysider. James Horan (aka focussed intelligent management seems to be the x factor in your development). The Donie Shine/Derek Duggan comparison is a close to the bone worry though!
Quote from: rodney trotter on June 18, 2013, 12:01:12 AM
Freeman was suppose to have done well for Mayo. No surprise, saw him play college football 2 years ago with DIT and he outstanding. Been a few years on the panel without nailing down his place. Some good competition when O Connor, Moran fully fit, Jason Doherty and Michael Moyles are all available.
Usually the comeback stories are about the other Crossmolina man!!!
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Quote from: moysider on June 17, 2013, 11:42:50 PM
I'm not sure what the answer is for Roscommon but looking through comments on their own board as well I think many are looking in the wrong places.
Comparing Ros and Mayo at underage is comforting but a waste of time.
What would you prefer? Win a minor or U21 AI or produce a senior player like Aidan O Sé or Michael Murphy who were not underage winners. Well organised underage teams can often beat teams that may have 1 or 2 players that will be serious senior players. Mayo have been slobbering around at underage for years but individuals keep popping up. In 08? we were seconds away from winning a minor AI and only Aidan, Hennelly and Kevin Keane made senior out of it. Should there have been more if we happened to hold on and win it?
I also think that some of the Roscommon go-to players are overrated. Comparing Cregg to McLoughlin is a joke but Cregg is a good player. Donie Shine is becoming a latter day Derek Duggan and Senan Kilbride - while tecnically very good- looks in poor condition for IC level and maybe as a result does not appear fully clued in. I was impressed by McDermott - again, Keenan, Niall Daly. Smith is a good footballer and Devaney has something but I wouldn t have let him on the pitch with a head like that. ffs, what s that about? Mannion, like his clubman Kilbride, is tecnically all there but again not quite right.
Now I m not sure where I m going with this but Mayo came from nowhere after the 2010 pits. Boyle was ruined and only returned last year and is now a team leader. Parsons was lost. The point is, this has not been a planned road for Mayo football. If, for example, Tommy Lyons had got the gig we would not be looking at what we are looking at now.
Annoying thing from my point of view is that the 06-10 period was avoidable and we may well have done better last couple of years if we hadn t been so set back in those years. Still, this is a young team, and I for one, am proud of them. I ve never seen a Mayo team so focused and organised. That wouldn t be hard I suppose but it is unusual for likes of me. 97/98 we could have been the best in the country but there was flakiness in some aspects that was very costly.
So it s a good time to be a Mayo man - even if The Grail itself might elude us. That s sport, but this team is working at becoming champions rather than hoping it might happen. Fair play to them for surviving the horror years and the ridicule of the general public. I hope for themselves that they get to the summit.
Great post Moysider. James Horan (aka focussed intelligent management seems to be the x factor in your development). The Donie Shine/Derek Duggan comparison is a close to the bone worry though!
Moy, I disagree with a lot of what you said but that Donie Shine/Duggan comment was ridiculous and I'm amazed Matt agreed with you.
Duggan's career was destroyed by injury - he retired at 28 - and Donie has a hamstring injury, and one that was mishandled at that. No history of injury. I wouldn't be judging Donie on how good or how made he plays this year because the injury has prevented him from doing most of the necessary conditioning work for inter-county football.
On Duggan - this interview is a good look back at what happened to him: http://www.roscommonpeople.ie/pdf/RSP_2505_Ed1_058.pdf (http://www.roscommonpeople.ie/pdf/RSP_2505_Ed1_058.pdf) and http://www.roscommonpeople.ie/pdf/RSP_2505_Ed1_059.pdf (http://www.roscommonpeople.ie/pdf/RSP_2505_Ed1_059.pdf)
QuoteYour injury must have improved over the years to allow you to play (club) again?
"I got some unusual treatment from a crowd of Chinese doctors who were working here in Ireland at that time."
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What would you prefer? Win a minor or U21 AI or produce a senior player like Aidan O Sé or Michael Murphy who were not underage winners.
Murphy,O Sé both won provincial underage titles. For some the hurt of losing underage All Ireland can drive them on at senior level, it certainly worked for Murphy.
I don t understand?
Like Mayo winning a provincial minor ? 5/6 a decade should be the norm if anybody was bothered too much.
My point is that those two are massive talents. I suspect they dragged their respective teams along as far as they got.
Bothered? I don't know. Mayo had a stage of winning four in row U-21 Connacht titles between 2006-09 those sides have supplied a lot of the current senior team however since then Galway,Roscommon have made Connacht underage a three horse race. Ulster titles aren't easy to win at any level.
In Murphys case he missed a penalty in the U-21 final against Dublin in 2010. That would have driven him on in the senior final.
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What would you prefer? Win a minor or U21 AI or produce a senior player like Aidan O Sé or Michael Murphy who were not underage winners.
Murphy,O Sé both won provincial underage titles. For some the hurt of losing underage All Ireland can drive them on at senior level, it certainly worked for Murphy.
I don t understand?
Like Mayo winning a provincial minor ? 5/6 a decade should be the norm if anybody was bothered too much.
My point is that those two are massive talents. I suspect they dragged their respective teams along as far as they got.
Bothered? I don't know. Mayo had a stage of winning four in row U-21 Connacht titles between 2006-09 those sides have supplied a lot of the current senior team however since then Galway,Roscommon have made Connacht underage a three horse race. Ulster titles aren't easy to win at any level.
In Murphys case he missed a penalty in the U-21 final against Dublin in 2010. That would have driven him on in the senior final.
Murphy was there anyway. Like Aidan O Se will be unless a plane crashes. I saw the Murphy peno miss an all. One of those things. Like pricking your finger pruning roses. He was always going to be there. A talent even Kerry gets every 50 years.
But I don t want to get too personal about how Mayo have gone about doin their underage stuff in recent years if ye know what I mean ;)
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What would you prefer? Win a minor or U21 AI or produce a senior player like Aidan O Sé or Michael Murphy who were not underage winners.
Murphy,O Sé both won provincial underage titles. For some the hurt of losing underage All Ireland can drive them on at senior level, it certainly worked for Murphy.
I don t understand?
Like Mayo winning a provincial minor ? 5/6 a decade should be the norm if anybody was bothered too much.
My point is that those two are massive talents. I suspect they dragged their respective teams along as far as they got.
Bothered? I don't know. Mayo had a stage of winning four in row U-21 Connacht titles between 2006-09 those sides have supplied a lot of the current senior team however since then Galway,Roscommon have made Connacht underage a three horse race. Ulster titles aren't easy to win at any level.
In Murphys case he missed a penalty in the U-21 final against Dublin in 2010. That would have driven him on in the senior final.
Murphy was there anyway. Like Aidan O Se will be unless a plane crashes. I saw the Murphy peno miss an all. One of those things. Like pricking your finger pruning roses. He was always going to be there. A talent even Kerry gets every 50 years.
But I don t want to get too personal about how Mayo have gone about doin their underage stuff in recent years if ye know what I mean ;)
Ah, sweet Jesus. The hype around Murphy is so far overboard it's probably half-way to New York by now.
Both Murphy and O'Shea have excelled in a lot of ways thanks to demanding and talented coaches. O'Shea was wild and over-weight before Horan took over, indeed he was that way as late as September 2011. Murphy likewise was going to languish in purgatory, not as fit as he could/should be, if McGuiness hadn't come along. Neither could be rightfully classed as exceptional before meeting their respective 'partners', even if some of the hype would lead you to believe they were.
Gaelic football is a single nation sport for most purposes and operates on a relatively small pool compared to most other major sports - good coaching is perhaps the single most important element in any footballer excelling in the modern game and the great leveler. And, yeah, good coaching costs a pretty penny.
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Quote from: moysider on June 17, 2013, 11:42:50 PM
What would you prefer? Win a minor or U21 AI or produce a senior player like Aidan O Sé or Michael Murphy who were not underage winners.
Murphy,O Sé both won provincial underage titles. For some the hurt of losing underage All Ireland can drive them on at senior level, it certainly worked for Murphy.
I don t understand?
Like Mayo winning a provincial minor ? 5/6 a decade should be the norm if anybody was bothered too much.
My point is that those two are massive talents. I suspect they dragged their respective teams along as far as they got.
Bothered? I don't know. Mayo had a stage of winning four in row U-21 Connacht titles between 2006-09 those sides have supplied a lot of the current senior team however since then Galway,Roscommon have made Connacht underage a three horse race. Ulster titles aren't easy to win at any level.
In Murphys case he missed a penalty in the U-21 final against Dublin in 2010. That would have driven him on in the senior final.
Murphy was there anyway. Like Aidan O Se will be unless a plane crashes. I saw the Murphy peno miss an all. One of those things. Like pricking your finger pruning roses. He was always going to be there. A talent even Kerry gets every 50 years.
But I don t want to get too personal about how Mayo have gone about doin their underage stuff in recent years if ye know what I mean ;)
Ah, sweet Jesus. The hype around Murphy is so far overboard it's probably half-way to New York by now.
Both Murphy and O'Shea have excelled in a lot of ways thanks to demanding and talented coaches. O'Shea was wild and over-weight before Horan took over, indeed he was that way as late as September 2011. Murphy likewise was going to languish in purgatory, not as fit as he could/should be, if McGuiness hadn't come along. Neither could be rightfully classed as exceptional before meeting their respective 'partners', even if some of the hype would lead you to believe they were.
Gaelic football is a single nation sport for most purposes and operates on a relatively small pool compared to most other major sports - good coaching is perhaps the single greatness element in any footballer excelling in the modern game.
One could argue the contrary Sy. McGuinness would not be an AI winning manager without Murphy - who will always look a bit heavy anyway - but he can play. McGuinness made him captain for life virtually at 21/22? McGuinness is smart but without Murphy he/and Donegal would not have their AI.
Mayo need a few players fit because our traditional game not as easily tweaked to what s needed as Donegal s traditional shorter game. Higgins, Boyle, O Sés, McLoughlin, Keegan, O Connor, Dillon, Andy, Conroy have to be on top of their game for us to have a chance.
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What would you prefer? Win a minor or U21 AI or produce a senior player like Aidan O Sé or Michael Murphy who were not underage winners.
Murphy,O Sé both won provincial underage titles. For some the hurt of losing underage All Ireland can drive them on at senior level, it certainly worked for Murphy.
I don t understand?
Like Mayo winning a provincial minor ? 5/6 a decade should be the norm if anybody was bothered too much.
My point is that those two are massive talents. I suspect they dragged their respective teams along as far as they got.
Bothered? I don't know. Mayo had a stage of winning four in row U-21 Connacht titles between 2006-09 those sides have supplied a lot of the current senior team however since then Galway,Roscommon have made Connacht underage a three horse race. Ulster titles aren't easy to win at any level.
In Murphys case he missed a penalty in the U-21 final against Dublin in 2010. That would have driven him on in the senior final.
Murphy was there anyway. Like Aidan O Se will be unless a plane crashes. I saw the Murphy peno miss an all. One of those things. Like pricking your finger pruning roses. He was always going to be there. A talent even Kerry gets every 50 years.
But I don t want to get too personal about how Mayo have gone about doin their underage stuff in recent years if ye know what I mean ;)
Ah, sweet Jesus. The hype around Murphy is so far overboard it's probably half-way to New York by now.
Both Murphy and O'Shea have excelled in a lot of ways thanks to demanding and talented coaches. O'Shea was wild and over-weight before Horan took over, indeed he was that way as late as September 2011. Murphy likewise was going to languish in purgatory, not as fit as he could/should be, if McGuiness hadn't come along. Neither could be rightfully classed as exceptional before meeting their respective 'partners', even if some of the hype would lead you to believe they were.
Gaelic football is a single nation sport for most purposes and operates on a relatively small pool compared to most other major sports - good coaching is perhaps the single greatness element in any footballer excelling in the modern game.
One could argue the contrary Sy. McGuinness would not be an AI winning manager without Murphy - who will always look a bit heavy anyway - but he can play. McGuinness made him captain for life virtually at 21/22? McGuinness is smart but without Murphy he/and Donegal would not have their AI.
Mayo need a few players fit because our traditional game not as easily tweaked to what s needed as Donegal s traditional shorter game. Higgins, Boyle, O Sés, McLoughlin, Keegan, O Connor, Dillon, Andy, Conroy have to be on top of their game for us to have a chance.
Actually I think McGuiness has under-utilised Murphy for much of his tenure, indeed his role could have been fulfilled by any decent and fit (to Donegal's level) free-taker in the country) in many of their games. He was playing as just another track-back merchant a lot of times and was rarely used to trouble full-backs under high ball, which obviously is one of the talents that sets him apart and is what caused such havoc in last year's AI final.
If you asked who Donegal needed more, McFadden or Murphy, it'd be McFadden hands down. By virtue of who much he is allowed to create he's the one of Donegal's big two that makes them tick. There's indications that's changing, but that's neither here nor there.
Now if the question was who would I take if I could choose one from some hypothetical team it'd be Murphy in an instant because of his sheer width and age. But the way McGuiness used him for much of last year you could have slotted in a pretty sizeable number of other forwards and they'd got basically the same return as Murphy did in McGuiness' system. A 'flair' player playing as a system player is still just a system player.
And don't get me started on the mess that is captaining players and how the role is utilised (or more exactly, not utilised) on the field.
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What would you prefer? Win a minor or U21 AI or produce a senior player like Aidan O Sé or Michael Murphy who were not underage winners.
Murphy,O Sé both won provincial underage titles. For some the hurt of losing underage All Ireland can drive them on at senior level, it certainly worked for Murphy.
I don t understand?
Like Mayo winning a provincial minor ? 5/6 a decade should be the norm if anybody was bothered too much.
My point is that those two are massive talents. I suspect they dragged their respective teams along as far as they got.
Bothered? I don't know. Mayo had a stage of winning four in row U-21 Connacht titles between 2006-09 those sides have supplied a lot of the current senior team however since then Galway,Roscommon have made Connacht underage a three horse race. Ulster titles aren't easy to win at any level.
In Murphys case he missed a penalty in the U-21 final against Dublin in 2010. That would have driven him on in the senior final.
Murphy was there anyway. Like Aidan O Se will be unless a plane crashes. I saw the Murphy peno miss an all. One of those things. Like pricking your finger pruning roses. He was always going to be there. A talent even Kerry gets every 50 years.
But I don t want to get too personal about how Mayo have gone about doin their underage stuff in recent years if ye know what I mean ;)
Ah, sweet Jesus. The hype around Murphy is so far overboard it's probably half-way to New York by now.
Both Murphy and O'Shea have excelled in a lot of ways thanks to demanding and talented coaches. O'Shea was wild and over-weight before Horan took over, indeed he was that way as late as September 2011. Murphy likewise was going to languish in purgatory, not as fit as he could/should be, if McGuiness hadn't come along. Neither could be rightfully classed as exceptional before meeting their respective 'partners', even if some of the hype would lead you to believe they were.
Gaelic football is a single nation sport for most purposes and operates on a relatively small pool compared to most other major sports - good coaching is perhaps the single greatness element in any footballer excelling in the modern game.
One could argue the contrary Sy. McGuinness would not be an AI winning manager without Murphy - who will always look a bit heavy anyway - but he can play. McGuinness made him captain for life virtually at 21/22? McGuinness is smart but without Murphy he/and Donegal would not have their AI.
Mayo need a few players fit because our traditional game not as easily tweaked to what s needed as Donegal s traditional shorter game. Higgins, Boyle, O Sés, McLoughlin, Keegan, O Connor, Dillon, Andy, Conroy have to be on top of their game for us to have a chance.
Actually I think McGuiness has under-utilised Murphy for much of his tenure, indeed his role could have been fulfilled by any decent and fit (to Donegal's level) free-taker in the country) in many of their games. He was playing as just another track-back merchant a lot of times and was rarely used to trouble full-backs under high ball, which obviously is one of the talents that sets him apart and is what caused such havoc in last year's AI final.
If you asked who Donegal needed more, McFadden or Murphy, it'd be McFadden hands down. By virtue of who much he is allowed to create he's the one of Donegal's big two that makes them tick. There's indications that's changing, but that's neither here nor there.
Now if the question was who would I take if I could choose one from some hypothetical team it'd be Murphy in an instant because of his sheer width and age. But the way McGuiness used him for much of last year you could have slotted in a pretty sizeable number of other forwards and they'd got basically the same return as Murphy did in McGuiness' system. A 'flair' player playing as a system player is still just a system player.
And don't get me started on the mess that is captaining players and how the role is utilised (or more exactly, not utilised) on the field.
That line alone shows the poles apart we are in seeing stuff. Mayo have managed McFadden well down the years. He s been a Senan Kilbride. Tight marking does him but he finishes well when opportunities present themselves. Murphy is technically in a different galaxy and is a leader. Of course McGuinness uses him about the place but he has to. His middle third is short of class and he does what is needed. Starting Murphy inside on his own last September was a stroke that we fell for but that s the way it goes. McFadden would not have done the damage for that early goal. No way. Comparing a knight on horseback to a tank.
The way people go on about players nowadays, you'd swear its just all down to trainning/attitude and who's managing them, how about the ability of the actual player himself.Btw was it not AOS who starred for Mayo in 2009 in our drubbing of Roscommon and he scored 1-1 against Meath too in q/f if my memory serves me right, probably 19 years old at the time.
Quote from: Rudi on June 17, 2013, 10:49:20 PM
Mayo were superb yesterday and the last day out against Galway. However they are spending insane money that they don't have. As an operation they could be the first county to be wound up.
Well if you mean the money doled out on the MacHale park redevelopment and all the skulduggery that went with it yes it was insane stuff but that has only had a negative impact on team preparations especially at underage. If there was loads of borrowed money there to be spent Horan wouldn't have even got the Job 2 and bit years ago and the Micko show would have rolled into town in 2011!!
Michael Finneran always struck me as a fine footballer. A fine, hefty lump of a lad and a great grafter with skill that belied his size, I expected him to lead the way if Roscommon were to have a chance of winning.
Several times during the early stages when Roscommon were motoring well, he dropped back to act as link man. When he did this for the second time, I knew his cause was hopeless and I suspect he felt the same way.
He got the ball in the clear each time and then meandered off in the general direction of the Mayo goal. As he soloed along, nice and easy, he was looking down at the ball as if counting his steps and then when he ran out of ideas, he stopped and looked around to see if anyone was willing to take a pass. Meanwhile, Mayo players had being laying off and haring back into position to await his next move.
He will have better days in the primrose and blue without a doubt but if you compare his solo runs with those of, say, Keith Higgins, the difference in mental approach is obvious.
He wasn't the worst of the well-known names on the Ross team either. Cregg, Mannion and Kilbride were very subdued all through and it was left to some of the younger lads to carry the fight to Mayo.
If the entire Brigid's team had been fielded, they'd have put up a better fight.
Ross has been underperforming for years and bad habits are hard to break. Dunno if better training and coaching facilities will cure this malaise either. The problem seems more deep-rooted than that.
Even the arrival of John Evans hasn't brought any change for the better or so it seems.
If they get a good run in the qualifiers, it might help to get them back on track again. I certainly wish them well. If Connacht football is to prosper, we need a more even standard throughout.
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What would you prefer? Win a minor or U21 AI or produce a senior player like Aidan O Sé or Michael Murphy who were not underage winners.
Murphy,O Sé both won provincial underage titles. For some the hurt of losing underage All Ireland can drive them on at senior level, it certainly worked for Murphy.
I don t understand?
Like Mayo winning a provincial minor ? 5/6 a decade should be the norm if anybody was bothered too much.
My point is that those two are massive talents. I suspect they dragged their respective teams along as far as they got.
Bothered? I don't know. Mayo had a stage of winning four in row U-21 Connacht titles between 2006-09 those sides have supplied a lot of the current senior team however since then Galway,Roscommon have made Connacht underage a three horse race. Ulster titles aren't easy to win at any level.
In Murphys case he missed a penalty in the U-21 final against Dublin in 2010. That would have driven him on in the senior final.
Murphy was there anyway. Like Aidan O Se will be unless a plane crashes. I saw the Murphy peno miss an all. One of those things. Like pricking your finger pruning roses. He was always going to be there. A talent even Kerry gets every 50 years.
But I don t want to get too personal about how Mayo have gone about doin their underage stuff in recent years if ye know what I mean ;)
Ah, sweet Jesus. The hype around Murphy is so far overboard it's probably half-way to New York by now.
Both Murphy and O'Shea have excelled in a lot of ways thanks to demanding and talented coaches. O'Shea was wild and over-weight before Horan took over, indeed he was that way as late as September 2011. Murphy likewise was going to languish in purgatory, not as fit as he could/should be, if McGuiness hadn't come along. Neither could be rightfully classed as exceptional before meeting their respective 'partners', even if some of the hype would lead you to believe they were.
Gaelic football is a single nation sport for most purposes and operates on a relatively small pool compared to most other major sports - good coaching is perhaps the single most important element in any footballer excelling in the modern game and the great leveler. And, yeah, good coaching costs a pretty penny.
Take your beating, Syf. Mayo are a very good team. Ros are not. If Warren Buffett bought Ros they still wouldn't win the all Ireland.
It's not about money. It's about hard work and skill.
Quote from: Lar Naparka on June 18, 2013, 10:24:37 AM
Michael Finneran always struck me as a fine footballer. A fine, hefty lump of a lad and a great grafter with skill that belied his size, I expected him to lead the way if Roscommon were to have a chance of winning.
Several times during the early stages when Roscommon were motoring well, he dropped back to act as link man. When he did this for the second time, I knew his cause was hopeless and I suspect he felt the same way.
He got the ball in the clear each time and then meandered off in the general direction of the Mayo goal. As he soloed along, nice and easy, he was looking down at the ball as if counting his steps and then when he ran out of ideas, he stopped and looked around to see if anyone was willing to take a pass. Meanwhile, Mayo players had being laying off and haring back into position to await his next move.
He will have better days in the primrose and blue without a doubt but if you compare his solo runs with those of, say, Keith Higgins, the difference in mental approach is obvious.
He wasn't the worst of the well-known names on the Ross team either. Cregg, Mannion and Kilbride were very subdued all through and it was left to some of the younger lads to carry the fight to Mayo.
If the entire Brigid's team had been fielded, they'd have put up a better fight.
Ross has been underperforming for years and bad habits are hard to break. Dunno if better training and coaching facilities will cure this malaise either. The problem seems more deep-rooted than that.
Even the arrival of John Evans hasn't brought any change for the better or so it seems.
If they get a good run in the qualifiers, it might help to get them back on track again. I certainly wish them well. If Connacht football is to prosper, we need a more even standard throughout.
Yeah Lar. Mike Finneran handled alot of ball in the first half but most of it was soloing out of his own backline at a very slow pace. In fairness he didn't give away possession but his lack of pace allowed Mayo loads of time to filter back as you pointed out. He's an honest, hardworking player with a fine fetch of a ball but I don't think he'll ever have much speed.
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Quote from: Rudi on June 17, 2013, 10:49:20 PM
Mayo were superb yesterday and the last day out against Galway. However they are spending insane money that they don't have. As an operation they could be the first county to be wound up.
Well if you mean the money doled out on the MacHale park redevelopment and all the skulduggery that went with it yes it was insane stuff but that has only had a negative impact on team preparations especially at underage. If there was loads of borrowed money there to be spent Horan wouldn't have even got the Job 2 and bit years ago and the Micko show would have rolled into town in 2011!!
I would guess he's talking about that Donie Buckley and company aren't being obtained at bargain basement prices, also surgery and subsequent months of rehab for Andy,Micky and Cillian isn't cheap either. They are getting the best possible treatment and rightly so. You can't and shouldn't skimp there.
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Quote from: Rudi on June 17, 2013, 10:49:20 PM
Mayo were superb yesterday and the last day out against Galway. However they are spending insane money that they don't have. As an operation they could be the first county to be wound up.
Well if you mean the money doled out on the MacHale park redevelopment and all the skulduggery that went with it yes it was insane stuff but that has only had a negative impact on team preparations especially at underage. If there was loads of borrowed money there to be spent Horan wouldn't have even got the Job 2 and bit years ago and the Micko show would have rolled into town in 2011!!
I would guess he's talking about that Donie Buckley and company aren't being obtained at bargain basement prices, also surgery and subsequent months of rehab for Andy,Micky and Cillian isn't cheap either. They are getting the best possible treatment and rightly so. You can't and shouldn't skimp there.
Yeah but take Donie Buckley out of the equation and those kind of costs are associated with most counties. Factor in that John Evans isn't driving all the way up to Roscommon for the good of his health or Roscommon football whereas James Horan at least is based in Mayo! Also someone tried to lump in the team holiday which was paid for by Croke Park as if it was some elaborate American mini camp and over looked the fact that Mayo actually stayed at home in Belmullet for their pre championship training camp. What I am really trying to say is that the costs are relative to where you are challenging in the championship and I have no doubt when the Rossies get back to division 1 standard , are winning Connacht titles and challenging for Sam their respective expenditure on their team preparation will mirror what Mayo are currently spending now but it won't be the thing that takes them back up into the top table of championship football.
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Quote from: Lar Naparka on June 18, 2013, 10:24:37 AM
Michael Finneran always struck me as a fine footballer. A fine, hefty lump of a lad and a great grafter with skill that belied his size, I expected him to lead the way if Roscommon were to have a chance of winning.
Several times during the early stages when Roscommon were motoring well, he dropped back to act as link man. When he did this for the second time, I knew his cause was hopeless and I suspect he felt the same way.
He got the ball in the clear each time and then meandered off in the general direction of the Mayo goal. As he soloed along, nice and easy, he was looking down at the ball as if counting his steps and then when he ran out of ideas, he stopped and looked around to see if anyone was willing to take a pass. Meanwhile, Mayo players had being laying off and haring back into position to await his next move.
He will have better days in the primrose and blue without a doubt but if you compare his solo runs with those of, say, Keith Higgins, the difference in mental approach is obvious.
He wasn't the worst of the well-known names on the Ross team either. Cregg, Mannion and Kilbride were very subdued all through and it was left to some of the younger lads to carry the fight to Mayo.
If the entire Brigid's team had been fielded, they'd have put up a better fight.
Ross has been underperforming for years and bad habits are hard to break. Dunno if better training and coaching facilities will cure this malaise either. The problem seems more deep-rooted than that.
Even the arrival of John Evans hasn't brought any change for the better or so it seems.
If they get a good run in the qualifiers, it might help to get them back on track again. I certainly wish them well. If Connacht football is to prosper, we need a more even standard throughout.
Yeah Lar. Mike Finneran handled alot of ball in the first half but most of it was soloing out of his own backline at a very slow pace. In fairness he didn't give away possession but his lack of pace allowed Mayo loads of time to filter back as you pointed out. He's an honest, hardworking player with a fine fetch of a ball but I don't think he'll ever have much speed.
I'm only now coming able to comment on Sunday as I had to work Sunday night and was too pained to bother until now.
It was men against boys, a well oiled and drilled machine in its 3rd year under a good management against a team who looked every inch a D3 outfit with a mangement only 7 months in the role.
Poor oul Mikeen just never gives up and if more talented lads applied themselves as well we'd be in a somehwhat better place.
We were a disaster from 9 to 15 except for Donie Smith who was easily brushed aside by the Mwr defence which shows the difference between what looks like a strong lad at underage and Senior level strength.
Half backs who can attack are all very well but how about the primary role lads?
Full back line not too bad although I think we can forget about Carty at FB , Collins is the man for that job. O'Malley did well with a good save when Mwr tried walking the ball to the net. Mind you we need to do more with kickouts than lash them down the field.
Mwr will give the AI a good run for its money and remember they gave Donegal a 7 point start last year and could well have beaten them as they made DL look very ordinary at times.
For us - a good draw and a Round 3 appearance a necessity.
Thten get down to the real work as a programme needs to be mapped out and players identified who can bring us to a higher level over the next 2/3 years.
That might mean dumping a few prima donnas who seem to be there on name only - well so be it.
As for the Qualifiers - we won't beat Tyrone or Derry, I'd give us a good chance v Galway, Longford, Wicklow,Offaly, Laois, Louth,Fermanagh, Armagh, Westmeath. We should handle Carlow, Limerick, Waterford, Antrim or Sligo.
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So it s a good time to be a Mayo man - even if The Grail itself might elude us. That s sport, but this team is working at becoming champions rather than hoping it might happen. Fair play to them for surviving the horror years and the ridicule of the general public. I hope for themselves that they get to the summit.
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In Castlebar, a small but steadfast crowd was waiting in the heavy rain outside the Welcome Inn. Nothing official had been arranged, but these Mayo people stood vigil all the same. Their gesture choked Brady up in a way he hadn't felt in years. In the function room, he was overcome. That was when it hit him. Thirteen years of playing county football and this was how it ended. He had to lower his head, had to raise his hand to warn his friends away.
"The warmth of those people was incredible. It kind of dawned on me then. The whole thing hit me and in my heart and soul, I shed a tear or two inside. That is what I had been doing this thing for - the 13 years of breaking arms, legs, nose, jaws, the hundreds of training sessions, the whole lot - that is why. These were strangers standing in the pissing rain to greet a team that had been destroyed in the biggest football match of the year. I won't ever forget that."
Do you ever tire of the fact that nobody responds to your sly posts seafoid/Shlieveen?
The Mayo team in your link bear no resemblance to the current one... so what's your point?
Have the Herron chokers not enough problems of their own to be contending with?
What's you obsession with trying to dampen Mayo success and taunt Rossie failure?
I know you being a shlieveen is partly the reason.... but am I missing something? Is there an Israeli conspiracy link to all of this?
Christ, that's harsh................
Ah it's not really. There's always little digs/pity/reminders coming from Seafoid, cleverly mixed in with half-praise.
He should be well able to take it. He'll probably get a kick out of it :)
lambs well and truly slaughtered without mayo getting out of 2nd gear
Quote from: retiredgael on June 20, 2013, 09:43:42 AM
lambs well and truly slaughtered without mayo getting out of 2nd gear
I suppose that pun was intended? ;)
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Quote from: retiredgael on June 20, 2013, 09:43:42 AM
lambs well and truly slaughtered without mayo getting out of 2nd gear
I suppose that pun was intended? ;)
Naaaaa
Quote from: Farrandeelin on June 20, 2013, 09:20:06 PM
Quote from: retiredgael on June 20, 2013, 09:43:42 AM
lambs well and truly slaughtered without mayo getting out of 2nd gear
I suppose that pun was intended? ;)
What pun?
Sure it's only the truth, isn't it? ;D
shlieeven shleeven where art thou shlieveen (SEAFOID) ?