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This form is a chat about Laois hurling not about running down laois hurling. I was at the Schools game birr the better team and got goals at the right time. Birr should focus on the final now instead of coming on here running down Mrath Schools hurling. I think offaly hurling has enough problems of there own. And best of luck to birr in the final i hope they win it out and as a gaa I will be attending it👍

Takes the high moral ground about "running down" Laois Hurling and then in the next sentence runs down Offaly hurling with a "they have enough problems of their own jibe"

Remarkable

Everyone are entitled to opinions. That's the reason it's a forum. In terms of the game itself, birr were the better team in the first half creating some good goal chances. You still have to take them and unfortunately they didn't. Brochan o reilly was very much to the fore there.
To say tho mountrath ran out of ideas and steam I think your a small bit off course there.
Il give you a heads up in that area
Mountrath Cs very much dealt a huge blow with the unavailability of Kevin Byrne from centre back and Aaron Phelan who at the start of the year took up an apprenticeship. 2 serious underage County players.
Having to move a young lad like Tom Cuddy (16yrs) into a pivotal position and move a scoring threat like C Mckelvey back into a defensive position takes away a scoring threat. The grade itself is actually u19. Of the age Mountrath had 1, Birr had a few more. Of the starting 15 for mountrath, 8 are still there next year. The junior squad at the moment are still competing in leinster championship (semi final stage)
So to answer your ran out of ideas element. They moved to one up top, to crowding out middle to stop birr running game in 2nd half nullified it to an extent. The goal birr got was fortunate to say the least.. Communication was not efficient at that point to shepherd ball over line, but instead came free and a forward was found loose inside. Prior to this goal, mountrath had 2 poor wides when a draw and a very scorable goal chance.
Overall I'd say it was a very enjoyable game.

Is the B grade not u19.5?, the same as A schools hurling

Birr had lads out hurt as wel,in case you didn't know

Ye can complain all ye want about injuries,the reality is that ye had very little depth to the overall squad when ye had to bring in an u15

Birr much the better outfit

Mountrath CS very unlucky against Birr. Very even game but they got fortuitous goals at key times. Lots of talented hurlers on show for Mountrath which hopefully bears well for the future.

Will ya stop

Birr had 3 goals chances in the first half that they should have put away and killed it there and then

2 one on one with young O'Reilly,which in fairness to him he saved brilliantly and one they shot inches wide

Mountrath had how many goal chances in the first half?

They did hit 5/6 scorable wides

Lack of pace as in most laois teams and ran out of ideas and puff in the last 20 mins which allowed birr to take over

[making an all ireland semifinal is a realistic target]

Bonnar will have this year to rebuild and  making an all ireland semifinal is a realistic target

Next year the expectation is that he will build on a semifinal appearance

Maher at full back will be a loss as  his experience would be vital in bedding in probably Craig Morgan at corner back

Doubts persist over both keepers also

It's not beyond the bounds of possibility that for 2023

You could have a back 4

Of Rhys Shelly in goals

Barrett Eoghan Connolly Craig Morgan

It could happen even sooner

I think he'll be needing the luck of the draw to achieve that this year and get an easy run in the qualifiers.

Limerick are favourites for a top two finish in Munster IMO, Waterford next, which would leave Cork, Tipp and Clare fighting it out for the third spot with Cork probably most likely but nothing is guaranteed in Munster.
It's doable for Tipp but will depend on how quickly Bonnar can settle on a good spine of the team with more pace in attack and in defence.

Brendan Maher is a huge loss and a hugely underestimated hurler in my book. Loved watching him in full flow.

Your a brave man if you think you can predict the top 3 in a round robin Munster championship,the likes of Cork playing Clare in Thurles on account of Ed Sheerin could tip the balance

Tipp have a good spine the issue is bedding in the lads on either side of them as quickly as possible will be Bonnars test of management

Brendan would have been a fair option at corner back for even 20/25 minutes

I know it's a minefield in Munster as you never really know what Clare are going to turn up, the same could be said of Waterford in the past but I think Cahill has got a bit of consistency in them and they'll be hard to work with.

Will Bonnar start Ronan Maher at 3 or 6?

Clare in Cusack Park are a tough proposition

Them v Limerick at home will be tasty

Ronan wins all star at centre back at 19 years of age

I'd be hoping that he stays at 6,it's his best position

[making an all ireland semifinal is a realistic target]

Bonnar will have this year to rebuild and  making an all ireland semifinal is a realistic target

Next year the expectation is that he will build on a semifinal appearance

Maher at full back will be a loss as  his experience would be vital in bedding in probably Craig Morgan at corner back

Doubts persist over both keepers also

It's not beyond the bounds of possibility that for 2023

You could have a back 4

Of Rhys Shelly in goals

Barrett Eoghan Connolly Craig Morgan

It could happen even sooner

I think he'll be needing the luck of the draw to achieve that this year and get an easy run in the qualifiers.

Limerick are favourites for a top two finish in Munster IMO, Waterford next, which would leave Cork, Tipp and Clare fighting it out for the third spot with Cork probably most likely but nothing is guaranteed in Munster.
It's doable for Tipp but will depend on how quickly Bonnar can settle on a good spine of the team with more pace in attack and in defence.

Brendan Maher is a huge loss and a hugely underestimated hurler in my book. Loved watching him in full flow.

Your a brave man if you think you can predict the top 3 in a round robin Munster championship,the likes of Cork playing Clare in Thurles on account of Ed Sheerin could tip the balance

Tipp have a good spine the issue is bedding in the lads on either side of them as quickly as possible will be Bonnars test of management

Brendan would have been a fair option at corner back for even 20/25 minutes

Bonnar will have this year to rebuild and  making an all ireland semifinal is a realistic target

Next year the expectation is that he will build on a semifinal appearance

Maher at full back will be a loss as  his experience would be vital in bedding in probably Craig Morgan at corner back

Doubts persist over both keepers also

It's not beyond the bounds of possibility that for 2023

You could have a back 4

Of Rhys Shelly in goals

Barrett Eoghan Connolly Craig Morgan

It could happen even sooner

Was training last week

Tipp players only made aware of it before it was announced this morning

Finished with club and county

6 all stars
3 all irelands
7 county medals

tippmaninlaois very bitter because he had to migrate over to Laois. Shouldn't be stealing our women so!

Not married to a laois woman Son

Try again

Although speaking of Laois Women,20 series and 184 players in

Ye finally get a Laois Person onto Laochra Gael

Tipp need a rebuild. They got as much as they could out of that team. Last year their best lasted 35 minutes.

We have 2 u21/20 all ireland winning squads that are now 22/23/24

With hindsight changes should have been made at half time in the Munster final with us 10 points up

But hindsight is cheap now

Limerick got the breaks with one if not 2 red cards missed

But tipp showed the way last year for 37 mins as to how to take Limerick on

Let's see how they got on this year in a compact attritional round robin Munster championship,they struggled in 19 after winning the all ireland the previous year with this format.They had a much clearer run in 20 and 21 when it wasn't played.

They have Cork away round 1
Waterford at home round 2
Clare in Ennis round 3 which could be a very tricky one for them
Tipperary at home round 4

4 games in the space of 5 weeks

Squad depth is also an issue with them,it will be interesting to see if Adam English and a few more more force their way in

WRT the Munster final, Tipp did indeed bypass the middle third, went long, by passing the Limerick halfback line with Seamy Callinan flicking the ball down to the runners coming through and enjoyed a lot of scores off that process UNTIL Dan Morrisey was brought into the fray at the expense of Richie English. That turned the game round for Limerick and from then on they turned the screw in a serious way that Tipp couldn't cope with.
Yes, Guillane should have got a red for slapping Barrett, it was a red every day of the week, except in a Munster final it seems. I still think Limerick would have went on for the win but we'll never know.

Squad wise with the condensed championship we have now I'd say Limerick are better placed than most to cope with a few injuries along the way. They've a very settled 20 or so lads will plenty of championship experience and whilst they got beat by Cork in last years U20's they were nip and tuck the whole way so they've more to come and I think some were blooded the weekend past vrs Kerry with Clare to come.

They're better placed than most to deal with a tight schedule but obviously everyone will be hoping key personnel avoid anything serious.

It was Jason Forde not Callinan that did the damage in the first half of that Munster final against Limerick

He roved around the 40 and was given free reign.

The first 4/5 minutes of the second half was when the tide really turned

The Limerick forwards upped their work rate and stopped the tipp backs hitting accurate ball out of defence

Limerick have been using the same 17 odd hurlers for the last 2 all irelands

It's going to be fascinating to find who else they have in a no holds barred compressed Munster championship

Any 3 from the 5 could come out of it and a good start is vital

Callinan was the one knocking the balls down for Forde and the runners coming through. The two goals came from high balls in knocked down by Callinan to runners off his shoulder IIRC.
Limerick are probably the best at changing tactics during the game, and use the water breaks very effectively which I'd like to see the end off.

The first Tipperary goal was a result of a barry hogan puckout which Jake morris ran onto and scored

The second one was again a puckout which broke off a Limerick back

Coaching Breaks are gone

Yesterdays Indo

Excellent Graphics which brings clarity to the current funding situation

Interesting also to see the number of registered players per county ranking

https://twitter.com/aaronmcfc1/status/1484877741119922176?s=21

Tipp had a good start and failed when it mattered!

Teams used to go toe to toe with Kilkenny back in the day, it was the last ten minutes when the dust settled that Kilkenny tagged on a goal and 4 or 5 points that won it for them.

That must News to the likes of Waterford in the 08 All ireland final where they buried them in the first 5 minutes

Kilkenny went for the jugular early on in a lot of games

Tipp need a rebuild. They got as much as they could out of that team. Last year their best lasted 35 minutes.

We have 2 u21/20 all ireland winning squads that are now 22/23/24

With hindsight changes should have been made at half time in the Munster final with us 10 points up

But hindsight is cheap now

Limerick got the breaks with one if not 2 red cards missed

But tipp showed the way last year for 37 mins as to how to take Limerick on

Let's see how they got on this year in a compact attritional round robin Munster championship,they struggled in 19 after winning the all ireland the previous year with this format.They had a much clearer run in 20 and 21 when it wasn't played.

They have Cork away round 1
Waterford at home round 2
Clare in Ennis round 3 which could be a very tricky one for them
Tipperary at home round 4

4 games in the space of 5 weeks

Squad depth is also an issue with them,it will be interesting to see if Adam English and a few more more force their way in

WRT the Munster final, Tipp did indeed bypass the middle third, went long, by passing the Limerick halfback line with Seamy Callinan flicking the ball down to the runners coming through and enjoyed a lot of scores off that process UNTIL Dan Morrisey was brought into the fray at the expense of Richie English. That turned the game round for Limerick and from then on they turned the screw in a serious way that Tipp couldn't cope with.
Yes, Guillane should have got a red for slapping Barrett, it was a red every day of the week, except in a Munster final it seems. I still think Limerick would have went on for the win but we'll never know.

Squad wise with the condensed championship we have now I'd say Limerick are better placed than most to cope with a few injuries along the way. They've a very settled 20 or so lads will plenty of championship experience and whilst they got beat by Cork in last years U20's they were nip and tuck the whole way so they've more to come and I think some were blooded the weekend past vrs Kerry with Clare to come.

They're better placed than most to deal with a tight schedule but obviously everyone will be hoping key personnel avoid anything serious.

It was Jason Forde not Callinan that did the damage in the first half of that Munster final against Limerick

He roved around the 40 and was given free reign.

The first 4/5 minutes of the second half was when the tide really turned

The Limerick forwards upped their work rate and stopped the tipp backs hitting accurate ball out of defence

Limerick have been using the same 17 odd hurlers for the last 2 all irelands

It's going to be fascinating to find who else they have in a no holds barred compressed Munster championship

Any 3 from the 5 could come out of it and a good start is vital

Tipp need a rebuild. They got as much as they could out of that team. Last year their best lasted 35 minutes.

We have 2 u21/20 all ireland winning squads that are now 22/23/24

With hindsight changes should have been made at half time in the Munster final with us 10 points up

But hindsight is cheap now

Limerick got the breaks with one if not 2 red cards missed

But tipp showed the way last year for 37 mins as to how to take Limerick on

Let's see how they got on this year in a compact attritional round robin Munster championship,they struggled in 19 after winning the all ireland the previous year with this format.They had a much clearer run in 20 and 21 when it wasn't played.

They have Cork away round 1
Waterford at home round 2
Clare in Ennis round 3 which could be a very tricky one for them
Tipperary at home round 4

4 games in the space of 5 weeks

Squad depth is also an issue with them,it will be interesting to see if Adam English and a few more more force their way in

Shocking result, would be acceptable for hurling... not football.
Can't find any match report or lineup anywhere.

some in the Football Fraternity labouring under the impression that football in the county is better than what it actually is

The Footballers got torn apart by a Division 4 Team today

Thats the level they are at

I read that as it's more acceptable to lose by that margin in hurling than football not the way you did.
Anyway, I really doubt there are very few from the "football fraternity" who think our football team are currently anything other than in a bad way. We've haemorrhaged players from last year's squad and have seen countless lads turn down Sheehan's invite to play. I'll be thrilled if we stay up, beat Wicklow in championship and maybe win a game or two in the second tier championship.
It was a tough day for the lads who are on board yesterday. Not many bright spots. James Finn looks a good addition. And good to see his clubmate Sean Moore playing the full game. The more county football he gets, the better. Mark Barry was good too. He knows where the posts are. Hopefully we'll see a few more faces Wednesday night and also next Saturday.

Yep, thankfully someone's has the brains to realise I was obviously referring to conceding 6 goals and losing by that margin to a traditional hurling county.

Ye Laois boys crack me up

Wexford have more of a recent and historical tradition in football than what Laois has, appearing in all ireland semi final in 2008

It must be nearly the centenary of ye last reaching one soon ?

but you wouldn't have "the brains" to know that either

I guess you'd have tipp down as a "traditional" hurling county too even though we have a much richer recent and historic football past as well

Bottom line

Ye seem to have this misguided notion that ye are more of a football county than Wexford

stop fooling yereselves

Whooooo rich recent history alright, 1 provincial title in 80 odd years didn't realise the 2008 Footballers are all still playing on with their wealth of semi final experience.
Go back to hurling talk, I doubt you'd know a football if it jumped up and bit you on the mickey.

Even as late as yesterday

Wexford proving it has a richer footballing pedigree than Laois

https://www.laoistoday.ie/2022/01/11/defeat-for-portlaoise-cbs-in-gorey-as-south-leinster-campaign-comes-to-an-end/

For a person that thinks Laois are so pathetic in every way you spend an awful lot of time on this page fishing....you have little to worry about...

I don't

But ye should

Biggest boys school in the county

Getting whipped by 20 points

In the B

And not even a full Leinster competition

By a Wexford school

Any proper GAA county would have serious alarm bells ringing as it's not a once off there either

Shocking result, would be acceptable for hurling... not football.
Can't find any match report or lineup anywhere.

and theres the issue right there

some in the Football Fraternity labouring under the impression that football in the county is better than what it actually is

The Footballers got torn apart by a Division 4 Team today

Thats the level they are at

I read that as it's more acceptable to lose by that margin in hurling than football not the way you did.
Anyway, I really doubt there are very few from the "football fraternity" who think our football team are currently anything other than in a bad way. We've haemorrhaged players from last year's squad and have seen countless lads turn down Sheehan's invite to play. I'll be thrilled if we stay up, beat Wicklow in championship and maybe win a game or two in the second tier championship.
It was a tough day for the lads who are on board yesterday. Not many bright spots. James Finn looks a good addition. And good to see his clubmate Sean Moore playing the full game. The more county football he gets, the better. Mark Barry was good too. He knows where the posts are. Hopefully we'll see a few more faces Wednesday night and also next Saturday.

Yep, thankfully someone's has the brains to realise I was obviously referring to conceding 6 goals and losing by that margin to a traditional hurling county.

Ye Laois boys crack me up

Wexford have more of a recent and historical tradition in football than what Laois has, appearing in all ireland semi final in 2008

It must be nearly the centenary of ye last reaching one soon ?

but you wouldn't have "the brains" to know that either

I guess you'd have tipp down as a "traditional" hurling county too even though we have a much richer recent and historic football past as well

Bottom line

Ye seem to have this misguided notion that ye are more of a football county than Wexford

stop fooling yereselves

Whooooo rich recent history alright, 1 provincial title in 80 odd years didn't realise the 2008 Footballers are all still playing on with their wealth of semi final experience.
Go back to hurling talk, I doubt you'd know a football if it jumped up and bit you on the mickey.

Even as late as yesterday

Wexford proving it has a richer footballing pedigree than Laois

https://www.laoistoday.ie/2022/01/11/defeat-for-portlaoise-cbs-in-gorey-as-south-leinster-campaign-comes-to-an-end/