Roscommon vs. Tyrone AIQ R2: Yes, again.

[Rossfan]

Donie Shine has been unlucky with injuries if he gets a full NFL/FBD under his belt he'll be in better shape for next years championship. As for Senan well after long club year he wanted a break away and probably should have taken it.

Time may be running out for some of 2006 minors to kick on at senior level however in Cathal Shine,Niall Daly,Neill Collins,Paddy Brogan,Enda Smith,Donie Smith,Conor Daly,Colm Compton,Scott Oates,Donal Keane,Ciaran Cafferkey we have plenty of underage talent only finding their feet at senior level & with many more waiting for their chance we should have competitive senior panel in the years ahead.While its our priority getting to D2 we must make sure we have team/squad thats good enough to compete at that level, remember 2008 proved to be level above us.

The first thing you need to do is keep idiots like Syferus away from these young lads. The worst thing for a young player is to be told how great he is when he has some success at underage and then have fellas constantly making excuses for them when they dont do the business at Senior. Syferus does this all the time. I hope its not indicative of the type of people these players have around them. If so, they will never kick on.

+1.
I read in some paper a few years ago an explanation why Laois didn't win more from all those good underage teams they had back whenever.
When 19 year olds walk into a pub and see a portrait of themselves with a Minor Cup at the end of the bar and everyone starts buying them drinks......

Our 2006 minors will be aged 25 and 26 next year. One minor team will never give you more than 4 or 5 at best good Seniors.
Many have played on the Senior team and by now Carty, Keenan, O'Gara, Higgins, Devaney and Donie Shine were on the Championship squad Saturday. Domican may be back next year.
Carty's not a full back, Keenan is one of the best run around everywhere players around, the others are very inconsistent and will be overtaken by the younger lads if they don't perform more regularly.

Since 06 we've been ALL Irl minor Qtr Finalists 6 times incl this year but we've only won once ( extra time at that !!).
We've won 2 Connacht U21s and have lost to the eventual AI Champions each of the last 4 years.
There's a lot of potential there but  it will take hard work, bruising of some egos, ruthless culling of lads not shaping up and large doses of reality medicine to bring it to fruition as good  Seniors.
We Ros supporters need to become like "those roughest kind of fcukin animals" and become hard to please with anything less than scoreboard victories not moral ones like last Saturday.

The Kerry attitude was summed up for me back in 2000 when we bet them in a Junior AI Final.
A mate met this Kerryman he works with in Sligo the week after and said to him how great a day last Saturday was.
The Kerryman said it "was for ye but a bad day for us". My mate said sure ye're hardly bothered about an oul Junior Final with all ye've won and will win.
The reply was " Any day Kerry lose an All Ireland Final is a bad day"

The time for excuses and Syferianism is over .
WIN OR BUST FROM HERE ON

[Syferus]

Carty's a talented full-back. Just because clubs play defenders out of position (there is a need for them to put their best players in the middle whether they're midfielders or not just to mask as many deficiencies as possible) doesn't make the point any less true. Only Alan Freeman in a performance of a lifetime got much change from Carty this year. Absolutely ridiculous to be questioning whether he's a full-back or not after this year, probably our most consistent performer on the season.

Collins is the only other genuine option at FB - I've never liked Domican at FB and he's probably too short for it to begin with - and Collins probably should be moving up the field rather than nearer our goal.

We've spent long enough being hard to please to know it's a road to nothing. Evans is on the right track. Give him and the players the time they deserve.

[macdanger2]

The lads on newstalk were harping on about how wide the pitch is in Hyde, can't say I ever noticed it being any wider than any other pitch

[Rossfan]

The first thing you need to do is keep idiots like Syferus away from these young lads.

I'm keeping him away from me anyway.
I blocked him so I don't have to read his nonsense any more 

[Syferus]

The lads on newstalk were harping on about how wide the pitch is in Hyde, can't say I ever noticed it being any wider than any other pitch

Second biggest in the country after Croker, iirc.

Actually did our game plan no favours but any time a Ros supporter worries about the 'wide, open spaces' of Croke Park I laugh.

[Mike Sheehy]

The lads on newstalk were harping on about how wide the pitch is in Hyde, can't say I ever noticed it being any wider than any other pitch

Second biggest in the country after Croker, iirc.

Actually did our game plan no favours but any time a Ros supporter worries about the 'wide, open spaces' of Croke Park I laugh.

So your own home pitch didn't do your game plan any favours
This is exactly what I meant when I said you build your own lads then you make excuses for them when they fail.

[neilthemac]

The lads on newstalk were harping on about how wide the pitch is in Hyde, can't say I ever noticed it being any wider than any other pitch

Second biggest in the country after Croker, iirc.

Actually did our game plan no favours but any time a Ros supporter worries about the 'wide, open spaces' of Croke Park I laugh.

that stat actually refers to the 'old' croker pitch
not the new one.

[Syferus]

The lads on newstalk were harping on about how wide the pitch is in Hyde, can't say I ever noticed it being any wider than any other pitch

Second biggest in the country after Croker, iirc.

Actually did our game plan no favours but any time a Ros supporter worries about the 'wide, open spaces' of Croke Park I laugh.

that stat actually refers to the 'old' croker pitch
not the new one.

Is the new one smaller, then?

[Gabriel_Hurl]

Rk County......... Name.................................. Len x Wid Tot
01 Tipperary..... Semple Stadium................. 145 x 90 13,050
01 Galway......... Pearse Stadium................. 145 x 90 13,050
01 Antrim.......... Casement Park.................. 145 x 90 13,050
01 Roscommon.. Dr Hyde Park..................... 145 x 90 13,050
01 Clare............ Cusack Park....................... 145 x 90 13,050
01 Offaly............ O'Connor Park................... 145 x 90 13,050
01 Donegal........ McCumhaill Park................ 145 x 90 13,050
08 Sligo............. Markievicz Park.................. 142 x 90 12,780
09 Kilkenny........ Nowlan Park...................... 145 x 88 12,760
09 Cork.............. Pairc Ui Rinn...................... 145 x 88 12,760
11 Dublin........... Croke Park........................ 145 x 88 12,716
12 Cork.............. Pairc Ui Chaoimh............... 144 x 88 12,672
13 Carlow.......... Dr Cullen Park................... 145 x 87 12,615
14 Armagh......... Athletic Grounds................ 143 x 88 12,584
15 Wicklow......... O'Byrne Park.................... 145 x 86 12,470
16 Mionaghan.... St Tiernach's Park............. 142 x 87 12,354
17 Wexford........ Wexford Park.................... 142 x 87 12,311
18 Leitrim.......... Pairc Sean Mac Diarmada.. 142 x 87 12,300
19 Laois............ O'Moore Park..................... 142 x 86 12,212
19 Tyrone.......... Healy Park......................... 142 x 86 12,212
21 Cavan.......... Breffni Park........................ 143 x 86 12,184
22 Longford....... Pearse Park...................... 138 x 88 12,144
23 Fermanagh.. Brewster Park.................... 145 x 83 12,035
24 Kerry............ Fitzgerald Stadium............. 144 x 82 11,808
25 Meath.......... Pairc Tailteann.................... 135 x 87 11,745
26 Derry........... Celtic Park ..........................138 x 84 11,614
27 Dublin.......... Parnell Park....................... 141 x 82 11,562
28 Westmeath.. Cusack Park...................... 140x 82 11,514
29 Louth........... Drogheda Park................... 138 x 83 11,437
30 Waterford..... Walsh Park........................ 142 x 80 11,360
31 Limerick....... Gaelic Grounds................... 137 x 82 11,234
31 Mayo........... McHale Park....................... 137 x 82 11,234
33 Down.......... Pairc Esler.......................... 138 x 81 11,120
34 Kildare......... St Conleths Park................ 135 x 80 10,706

[Syferus]

Rk County......... Name.................................. Len x Wid Tot
01 Tipperary..... Semple Stadium................. 145 x 90 13,050
01 Galway......... Pearse Stadium................. 145 x 90 13,050
01 Antrim.......... Casement Park.................. 145 x 90 13,050
01 Roscommon.. Dr Hyde Park..................... 145 x 90 13,050
01 Clare............ Cusack Park....................... 145 x 90 13,050
01 Offaly............ O'Connor Park................... 145 x 90 13,050
01 Donegal........ McCumhaill Park................ 145 x 90 13,050
08 Sligo............. Markievicz Park.................. 142 x 90 12,780
09 Kilkenny........ Nowlan Park...................... 145 x 88 12,760
09 Cork.............. Pairc Ui Rinn...................... 145 x 88 12,760
11 Dublin........... Croke Park........................ 145 x 88 12,716
12 Cork.............. Pairc Ui Chaoimh............... 144 x 88 12,672
13 Carlow.......... Dr Cullen Park................... 145 x 87 12,615
14 Armagh......... Athletic Grounds................ 143 x 88 12,584
15 Wicklow......... O'Byrne Park.................... 145 x 86 12,470
16 Mionaghan.... St Tiernach's Park............. 142 x 87 12,354
17 Wexford........ Wexford Park.................... 142 x 87 12,311
18 Leitrim.......... Pairc Sean Mac Diarmada.. 142 x 87 12,300
19 Laois............ O'Moore Park..................... 142 x 86 12,212
19 Tyrone.......... Healy Park......................... 142 x 86 12,212
21 Cavan.......... Breffni Park........................ 143 x 86 12,184
22 Longford....... Pearse Park...................... 138 x 88 12,144
23 Fermanagh.. Brewster Park.................... 145 x 83 12,035
24 Kerry............ Fitzgerald Stadium............. 144 x 82 11,808
25 Meath.......... Pairc Tailteann.................... 135 x 87 11,745
26 Derry........... Celtic Park ..........................138 x 84 11,614
27 Dublin.......... Parnell Park....................... 141 x 82 11,562
28 Westmeath.. Cusack Park...................... 140x 82 11,514
29 Louth........... Drogheda Park................... 138 x 83 11,437
30 Waterford..... Walsh Park........................ 142 x 80 11,360
31 Limerick....... Gaelic Grounds................... 137 x 82 11,234
31 Mayo........... McHale Park....................... 137 x 82 11,234
33 Down.......... Pairc Esler.......................... 138 x 81 11,120
34 Kildare......... St Conleths Park................ 135 x 80 10,706

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