NFL Division 1 - 2020

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Lar Naparka

Quote from: From the Bunker on January 30, 2020, 06:18:16 PM
When is the last time Mayo beat Dublin in League or Championship?

The answer is probably 2012. A long time ago!

Dublin in the past would have singled out this League fixture. That's probably not the case anymore.  :-\
Conor McKeon did an interview with Enda Varley on Monday last in the Indo.
I found this very interesting.
Between '13 and '17, Mayo played Dublin a total of 19 times, between league and championship, and lost 17 of them. They won only two and drew the other two but the interesting fact is that Mayo amassed a total of 250 points in the process but Dublin managed only 251.
However, the devil is in the detail...
Dublin scored a total of 32 goals whereas Mayo managed only 12.
Seems goals win games...
Nil Carborundum Illegitemi

Ball Hopper

Of the last 7 Dublin/Kerry games, Dublin have won 2.

twohands!!!

Quote from: Lar Naparka on January 30, 2020, 06:53:25 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on January 30, 2020, 06:18:16 PM
When is the last time Mayo beat Dublin in League or Championship?

The answer is probably 2012. A long time ago!

Dublin in the past would have singled out this League fixture. That's probably not the case anymore.  :-\
Conor McKeon did an interview with Enda Varley on Monday last in the Indo.
I found this very interesting.
Between '13 and '17, Mayo played Dublin a total of 19 times, between league and championship, and lost 17 of them. They won only two and drew the other two but the interesting fact is that Mayo amassed a total of 250 points in the process but Dublin managed only 251.
However, the devil is in the detail...
Dublin scored a total of 32 goals whereas Mayo managed only 12.
Seems goals win games...

Out of the 71 championship games last summer there were only 5 games where a side scored less goals than the opposition and won.

On Dublin when you look at the stats in terms of the amount of goal scoring chances they create and convert, as well as looking at their overall attacking play in games, it's blatantly clear that part of their overall strategy is to score goals. I think it's one of the areas where they are a good way ahead of the competition. A lot of other sides seem far more willing to "take their points" as opposed to developing the play and getting the shot at goal off.

Ball Hopper

Quote from: twohands!!! on January 30, 2020, 07:22:40 PM
Quote from: Lar Naparka on January 30, 2020, 06:53:25 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on January 30, 2020, 06:18:16 PM
When is the last time Mayo beat Dublin in League or Championship?

The answer is probably 2012. A long time ago!

Dublin in the past would have singled out this League fixture. That's probably not the case anymore.  :-\
Conor McKeon did an interview with Enda Varley on Monday last in the Indo.
I found this very interesting.
Between '13 and '17, Mayo played Dublin a total of 19 times, between league and championship, and lost 17 of them. They won only two and drew the other two but the interesting fact is that Mayo amassed a total of 250 points in the process but Dublin managed only 251.
However, the devil is in the detail...
Dublin scored a total of 32 goals whereas Mayo managed only 12.
Seems goals win games...

Out of the 71 championship games last summer there were only 5 games where a side scored less goals than the opposition and won.

On Dublin when you look at the stats in terms of the amount of goal scoring chances they create and convert, as well as looking at their overall attacking play in games, it's blatantly clear that part of their overall strategy is to score goals. I think it's one of the areas where they are a good way ahead of the competition. A lot of other sides seem far more willing to "take their points" as opposed to developing the play and getting the shot at goal off.

In 8 championship games in 2019, Kerry scored 8 goals total.  In only one game (Meath) did they hit the net twice.  The only game Kerry failed to score a goal was the only game they lost.

"Goals win games, defense wins championships"

larryin89

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Quote from: Ball Hopper on January 30, 2020, 07:03:37 PM
Of the last 7 Dublin/Kerry games, Dublin have won 2.

League games are fantastic but I'd hazard a guess 2009 is the only stat that counts to Kerry .
Walk-in down mchale rd , sun out, summers day , game day . That's all .

Blowitupref

Mayo team for Saturday.

1. Robert Hennelly - Breaffy
2. Padraig O'Hora - Ballina Stephenites
3. Oisin Mullin - Kilmaine
4. Brendan Harrison - Aghamore
5. Michael Plunkett - Ballintubber
6. Colm Boyle - Davitts
7. Patrick Durcan - Castlebar Mitchels
8. Stephen Coen - Hollymount/Carramore (C)
9. Diarmuid O'Connor - Ballintubber
10. Fergal Boland - Aghamore
11. Ryan O'Donoghue - Belmullet
12. Jordan Flynn - Crossmolina Deel Rovers
13. Kevin McLoughlin - Knockmore
14. James Carr - Ardagh
15. James Durcan - Castlebar Mitchels
Is the ref going to finally blow his whistle?... No, he's going to blow his nose

Farrandeelin

Quote from: Blowitupref on January 30, 2020, 10:31:52 PM
Mayo team for Saturday.

1. Robert Hennelly - Breaffy
2. Padraig O'Hora - Ballina Stephenites
3. Oisin Mullin - Kilmaine
4. Brendan Harrison - Aghamore
5. Michael Plunkett - Ballintubber
6. Colm Boyle - Davitts
7. Patrick Durcan - Castlebar Mitchels
8. Stephen Coen - Hollymount/Carramore (C)
9. Diarmuid O'Connor - Ballintubber
10. Fergal Boland - Aghamore
11. Ryan O'Donoghue - Belmullet
12. Jordan Flynn - Crossmolina Deel Rovers
13. Kevin McLoughlin - Knockmore
14. James Carr - Ardagh
15. James Durcan - Castlebar Mitchels

Great. Flip flopping between goalies again. ::)
Inaugural Football Championship Prediction Winner.

From the Bunker

Quote from: Farrandeelin on January 30, 2020, 11:03:43 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on January 30, 2020, 10:31:52 PM
Mayo team for Saturday.

1. Robert Hennelly - Breaffy
2. Padraig O'Hora - Ballina Stephenites
3. Oisin Mullin - Kilmaine
4. Brendan Harrison - Aghamore
5. Michael Plunkett - Ballintubber
6. Colm Boyle - Davitts
7. Patrick Durcan - Castlebar Mitchels
8. Stephen Coen - Hollymount/Carramore (C)
9. Diarmuid O'Connor - Ballintubber
10. Fergal Boland - Aghamore
11. Ryan O'Donoghue - Belmullet
12. Jordan Flynn - Crossmolina Deel Rovers
13. Kevin McLoughlin - Knockmore
14. James Carr - Ardagh
15. James Durcan - Castlebar Mitchels

Great. Flip flopping between goalies again. ::)

It's a case of a goalie that can't deal with high balls kicked into him or a goalie that can't kick high balls out!  :-\

Never beat the deeler

Quote from: From the Bunker on January 31, 2020, 06:37:09 AM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on January 30, 2020, 11:03:43 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on January 30, 2020, 10:31:52 PM
Mayo team for Saturday.

1. Robert Hennelly - Breaffy
2. Padraig O'Hora - Ballina Stephenites
3. Oisin Mullin - Kilmaine
4. Brendan Harrison - Aghamore
5. Michael Plunkett - Ballintubber
6. Colm Boyle - Davitts
7. Patrick Durcan - Castlebar Mitchels
8. Stephen Coen - Hollymount/Carramore (C)
9. Diarmuid O'Connor - Ballintubber
10. Fergal Boland - Aghamore
11. Ryan O'Donoghue - Belmullet
12. Jordan Flynn - Crossmolina Deel Rovers
13. Kevin McLoughlin - Knockmore
14. James Carr - Ardagh
15. James Durcan - Castlebar Mitchels

Great. Flip flopping between goalies again. ::)

It's a case of a goalie that can't deal with high balls kicked into him or a goalie that can't kick high balls out!  :-\

Do you think that's the reason? Clarke is kicking the ball to Hennelly in training  ;D ;D
Hasta la victoria siempre

joemamas

Quote from: From the Bunker on January 31, 2020, 06:37:09 AM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on January 30, 2020, 11:03:43 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on January 30, 2020, 10:31:52 PM
Mayo team for Saturday.

1. Robert Hennelly - Breaffy
2. Padraig O'Hora - Ballina Stephenites
3. Oisin Mullin - Kilmaine
4. Brendan Harrison - Aghamore
5. Michael Plunkett - Ballintubber
6. Colm Boyle - Davitts
7. Patrick Durcan - Castlebar Mitchels
8. Stephen Coen - Hollymount/Carramore (C)
9. Diarmuid O'Connor - Ballintubber
10. Fergal Boland - Aghamore
11. Ryan O'Donoghue - Belmullet
12. Jordan Flynn - Crossmolina Deel Rovers
13. Kevin McLoughlin - Knockmore
14. James Carr - Ardagh
15. James Durcan - Castlebar Mitchels

Great. Flip flopping between goalies again. ::)

It's a case of a goalie that can't deal with high balls kicked into him or a goalie that can't kick high balls out!  :-\

James Horan only had six months to come up with an alternative.
A tad embarrassing.

Blowitupref

The memory of how well Robert Hennelly played against Dublin in the league last year probably played a part in this selection.
Is the ref going to finally blow his whistle?... No, he's going to blow his nose

greatpoint

Quote from: Ball Hopper on January 30, 2020, 07:03:37 PM
Of the last 7 Dublin/Kerry games, Dublin have won 2.

But in the games that actually matter Dublin are unbeaten for 11 years. Sure Tyrone and Monaghan beat Dublin in the league last year.

rosnarun

Quote from: joemamas on January 31, 2020, 01:43:01 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on January 31, 2020, 06:37:09 AM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on January 30, 2020, 11:03:43 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on January 30, 2020, 10:31:52 PM
Mayo team for Saturday.

1. Robert Hennelly - Breaffy
2. Padraig O'Hora - Ballina Stephenites
3. Oisin Mullin - Kilmaine
4. Brendan Harrison - Aghamore
5. Michael Plunkett - Ballintubber
6. Colm Boyle - Davitts
7. Patrick Durcan - Castlebar Mitchels
8. Stephen Coen - Hollymount/Carramore (C)
9. Diarmuid O'Connor - Ballintubber
10. Fergal Boland - Aghamore
11. Ryan O'Donoghue - Belmullet
12. Jordan Flynn - Crossmolina Deel Rovers
13. Kevin McLoughlin - Knockmore
14. James Carr - Ardagh
15. James Durcan - Castlebar Mitchels

Great. Flip flopping between goalies again. ::)

It's a case of a goalie that can't deal with high balls kicked into him or a goalie that can't kick high balls out!  :-\

James Horan only had six months to come up with an alternative.
A tad embarrassing.
the alternatives seems to have been poached in a big money transfers.
Personally I think its time to show confidence in hennelly you have to accept the odd mistake but overall hes a top class keeper with a great kick out when as Clarke has as many meltdowns  and was poor under the high ball in ballybofey.
if mullin plays fullback he going to need all the protection he can get 
If you make yourself understood, you're always speaking well. Moliere

macdanger2

Quote from: rosnarun on January 31, 2020, 02:30:53 PM
Quote from: joemamas on January 31, 2020, 01:43:01 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on January 31, 2020, 06:37:09 AM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on January 30, 2020, 11:03:43 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on January 30, 2020, 10:31:52 PM
Mayo team for Saturday.

1. Robert Hennelly - Breaffy
2. Padraig O'Hora - Ballina Stephenites
3. Oisin Mullin - Kilmaine
4. Brendan Harrison - Aghamore
5. Michael Plunkett - Ballintubber
6. Colm Boyle - Davitts
7. Patrick Durcan - Castlebar Mitchels
8. Stephen Coen - Hollymount/Carramore (C)
9. Diarmuid O'Connor - Ballintubber
10. Fergal Boland - Aghamore
11. Ryan O'Donoghue - Belmullet
12. Jordan Flynn - Crossmolina Deel Rovers
13. Kevin McLoughlin - Knockmore
14. James Carr - Ardagh
15. James Durcan - Castlebar Mitchels

Great. Flip flopping between goalies again. ::)

It's a case of a goalie that can't deal with high balls kicked into him or a goalie that can't kick high balls out!  :-\

James Horan only had six months to come up with an alternative.
A tad embarrassing.
the alternatives seems to have been poached in a big money transfers.
Personally I think its time to show confidence in hennelly you have to accept the odd mistake but overall hes a top class keeper with a great kick out when as Clarke has as many meltdowns  and was poor under the high ball in ballybofey.
if mullin plays fullback he going to need all the protection he can get

Did Dublin not destroy his kickouts in the SF last year?

This has been an issue for the past 5 years and it feels like nothing has been done about it - either in terms of trying someone new or working with the two that are there and trying to improve their obvious weaknesses.


rosnarun

no there were strategies that went arseways  , but we have no better striker of the ball.   lets face it Clarke has an even worse record in that regard like landing the ball on connollys head and messing up 32 other kick outs when the game was in the balance and kicking  the ball out over the line wen 1 point down  with a minute left in an all Ireland Finals
If you make yourself understood, you're always speaking well. Moliere