Harte influence credited for increased physicality in hurling

Started by Redhand Santa, January 21, 2013, 01:47:13 PM

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ziggysego

We've won a couple of Lory Meaghers in recent years Santa ;)
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rrhf

It used to be a game with a fair few big fat lads playing it so perhaps he is just talking about fitness. Havent seen a big fat lad at the hurling in a while. 

Redhand Santa

Quote from: ziggysego on January 21, 2013, 02:57:56 PM
We've won a couple of Lory Meaghers in recent years Santa ;)

Even the great Kilkenny can't say that.

BennyHarp

And to be fair, it's been a very long time since Kilkenny beat Tyrone in hurling at Senior level.
That was never a square ball!!

Redhand Santa

Its time they prove themselves against a good Northern team. Would discount any of the All Irelands they didn't beat one along the way.

Glensman


neilthemac

Two words...

Brian Cody
he saw the way hurling was going and got rid of more skillful, lighter players in favour of players who can physically dominate their opponents and perform all the skills at a very high intensity.

Kilkenny have been years ahead of every other GAA team in Ireland (including all the football teams) in the way they condition their players and the culture of skill fostered in the county.
they have ingrained this skill culture from under 8 up to senior and that is where their production line of talent has come from.
Cody and co then pick the players that have the physical attributes (and already have the hurling skills) needed for county hurling.

Fuzzman

I believe Cody and Harte often contacted each other to swap ideas. Wasn't sure did Mickey meet the squad for one of his motivational talks

johnneycool

Kilkenny certainly have introduced aspects of the 'swarm tackle' to hurling and its not for the better IMO, not sure if that could be attributed to Mick Harte or not though.

Thankfully they didn't inherit any diving antics.  :o


Bord na Mona man

The 2006 All Ireland final would be a perfect example of how Kilkenny copied Tyrone's swarm tactics in order to counter Cork's running and short passing game.

As regards the increased physicality, I would say the biggest contributor to this are referees and those who lean on them. Nowadays they don't want to be pilloried for spoiling games by whistling for what the rule book would suggest are fouls.

Zulu

Cody was definitely inspired by Tyrone and Harte has definitely spoken to the kilkenny squad.

imtommygunn

Quote from: johnneycool on January 22, 2013, 09:29:33 AM
Kilkenny certainly have introduced aspects of the 'swarm tackle' to hurling and its not for the better IMO, not sure if that could be attributed to Mick Harte or not though.

Thankfully they didn't inherit any diving antics.  :o

Have you never watched Tommy Walsh??

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Quote from: Zulu on January 22, 2013, 02:18:13 PM
Cody was definitely inspired by Tyrone and Harte has definitely spoken to the kilkenny squad.

It has worked both ways: Cody inspired our lads in 2008 in the wake of the replay defeat to Down. Only for him, as they say.
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Quote from: imtommygunn on January 22, 2013, 02:39:45 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on January 22, 2013, 09:29:33 AM
Kilkenny certainly have introduced aspects of the 'swarm tackle' to hurling and its not for the better IMO, not sure if that could be attributed to Mick Harte or not though.

Thankfully they didn't inherit any diving antics.  :o

Have you never watched Tommy Walsh??

Tommy Walsh could be accused of many things but diving wouldn't be one of them.
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