Antrim Football Thread

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country bumpkin

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 15, 2018, 08:55:28 PM
Quote from: delgany on September 15, 2018, 03:40:26 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 15, 2018, 12:51:24 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on September 14, 2018, 10:37:40 PM
Quote from: delgany on September 14, 2018, 05:59:22 PM
If you had to appoint the referee for  Championship Semi -Final .. would you select a referee from a club , who are in the other semi final ... just asking ?
what makes u ask?

Why would that be an issue? Just asking


Possible conflict of interest for appointed referee.   Maybe not impartial enough .... just saying ...

Still don't get it, conflict of interest? Is he refereeing his own club?
There u go MR2.....

Conflict of interest.....

A situation in which a person is in a position to derive personal benefit from actions or 'decisions' made in their 'official capacity'

that help...?

Milltown Row2

Quote from: country bumpkin on September 16, 2018, 09:55:56 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 15, 2018, 08:55:28 PM
Quote from: delgany on September 15, 2018, 03:40:26 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 15, 2018, 12:51:24 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on September 14, 2018, 10:37:40 PM
Quote from: delgany on September 14, 2018, 05:59:22 PM
If you had to appoint the referee for  Championship Semi -Final .. would you select a referee from a club , who are in the other semi final ... just asking ?
what makes u ask?

Why would that be an issue? Just asking


Possible conflict of interest for appointed referee.   Maybe not impartial enough .... just saying ...

Still don't get it, conflict of interest? Is he refereeing his own club?
There u go MR2.....

Conflict of interest.....

A situation in which a person is in a position to derive personal benefit from actions or 'decisions' made in their 'official capacity'

that help...?

Still struggling with it. As the only benefit a ref would have would be to ref his own club. Are saying there are refs out there that would deliberately biased against certain clubs?
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought. Ea

Tyrdub

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 16, 2018, 10:30:05 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on September 16, 2018, 09:55:56 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 15, 2018, 08:55:28 PM
Quote from: delgany on September 15, 2018, 03:40:26 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 15, 2018, 12:51:24 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on September 14, 2018, 10:37:40 PM
Quote from: delgany on September 14, 2018, 05:59:22 PM
If you had to appoint the referee for  Championship Semi -Final .. would you select a referee from a club , who are in the other semi final ... just asking ?
what makes u ask?

LOL youre being facetious my friend, this guy is claiming that because Glenravel are in the other semifinal that the Glenravel referee doing his match will be harsher on them......hes a numpty. The ref in question I've known for a very long time, its not in his make up to do that, very fair ref

Why would that be an issue? Just asking


Possible conflict of interest for appointed referee.   Maybe not impartial enough .... just saying ...

Still don't get it, conflict of interest? Is he refereeing his own club?
There u go MR2.....

Conflict of interest.....

A situation in which a person is in a position to derive personal benefit from actions or 'decisions' made in their 'official capacity'

that help...?

Still struggling with it. As the only benefit a ref would have would be to ref his own club. Are saying there are refs out there that would deliberately biased against certain clubs?

bogieman

Quote from: country bumpkin on September 16, 2018, 09:55:56 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 15, 2018, 08:55:28 PM
Quote from: delgany on September 15, 2018, 03:40:26 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 15, 2018, 12:51:24 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on September 14, 2018, 10:37:40 PM
Quote from: delgany on September 14, 2018, 05:59:22 PM
If you had to appoint the referee for  Championship Semi -Final .. would you select a referee from a club , who are in the other semi final ... just asking ?
what makes u ask?

Why would that be an issue? Just asking


Possible conflict of interest for appointed referee.   Maybe not impartial enough .... just saying ...

Still don't get it, conflict of interest? Is he refereeing his own club?
There u go MR2.....

Conflict of interest.....

A situation in which a person is in a position to derive personal benefit from actions or 'decisions' made in their 'official capacity'

that help...?

CB, you're talking complete bollocks, only in your wee narrow mind...  8)
This is not Irish dancing. -RH

Maiden1

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Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 16, 2018, 10:30:05 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on September 16, 2018, 09:55:56 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 15, 2018, 08:55:28 PM
Quote from: delgany on September 15, 2018, 03:40:26 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 15, 2018, 12:51:24 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on September 14, 2018, 10:37:40 PM
Quote from: delgany on September 14, 2018, 05:59:22 PM
If you had to appoint the referee for  Championship Semi -Final .. would you select a referee from a club , who are in the other semi final ... just asking ?
what makes u ask?

Why would that be an issue? Just asking


Possible conflict of interest for appointed referee.   Maybe not impartial enough .... just saying ...

Still don't get it, conflict of interest? Is he refereeing his own club?
There u go MR2.....

Conflict of interest.....

A situation in which a person is in a position to derive personal benefit from actions or 'decisions' made in their 'official capacity'

that help...?

Still struggling with it. As the only benefit a ref would have would be to ref his own club. Are saying there are refs out there that would deliberately biased against certain clubs?
Conflict of interest because if the refs team wins there semi final it would be to that teams advantage to play the weaker of the 2 teams in the final.

In Down Kilcoo are in 1 semi Burren in the other. Kilcoo last few years have beat Burren in final. Burren ref in the Kilcoo game and CPN 2 points behind going into injury time and someone from CPN falls in the box, it's a debatable call.  It could be tempting to blow for a penalty.
There are no proofs, only opinions.

whatwillbwillb

All referring appointments at this stage should go before the CCC to ratify, well that's what happens in other counties but then again in Antrim who knows?

imtommygunn

Unconscious bias a big thing in it too. Basically a conflict of interests and shouldn't happen. The person it is least fair on is the referee.

Milltown Row2

Quote from: whatwillbwillb on September 18, 2018, 06:35:54 AM
All referring appointments at this stage should go before the CCC to ratify, well that's what happens in other counties but then again in Antrim who knows?

All appointments go through CCC here in Antrim also, that answer your post? There are no weaker teams, if one team loses a semifinal then they lost it cause they were the weaker team on the day, if a man goes down in the box and it's a penalty, it's becsuse it's a penalty... ffs lads get a grip and wind your suspicious minds in.

All referees that I know at this stage are gearing up to perform at the big games, to actually be completely biased in a match would jeopardise any chance they would have if getting games of any importance..

Basically you're calling a ref a cheat. Some buck ejjits out there are actually doing it online here and have yet to be called out by their online clubmen on here. Shows you the level of paranoia this goes to
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought. Ea

Tyrdub

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 18, 2018, 07:40:31 AM
Quote from: whatwillbwillb on September 18, 2018, 06:35:54 AM
All referring appointments at this stage should go before the CCC to ratify, well that's what happens in other counties but then again in Antrim who knows?

All appointments go through CCC here in Antrim also, that answer your post? There are no weaker teams, if one team loses a semifinal then they lost it cause they were the weaker team on the day, if a man goes down in the box and it's a penalty, it's becsuse it's a penalty... ffs lads get a grip and wind your suspicious minds in.

All referees that I know at this stage are gearing up to perform at the big games, to actually be completely biased in a match would jeopardise any chance they would have if getting games of any importance..

Basically you're calling a ref a cheat. Some buck ejjits out there are actually doing it online here and have yet to be called out by their online clubmen on here. Shows you the level of paranoia this goes to

+1

Loughshore Green

Lamh Dhearg vs cargin  - referee from St Galls and the winner probably plays st galls in the semi final.

The referee has a good reputation but for the avoidance of any doubt he shouldn't be reffing it. END OF. Problem Solved




Milltown Row2

Quote from: Loughshore Green on September 18, 2018, 09:16:05 AM
Lamh Dhearg vs cargin  - referee from St Galls and the winner probably plays st galls in the semi final.

The referee has a good reputation but for the avoidance of any doubt he shouldn't be reffing it. END OF. Problem Solved

I'm not sure if you are aware of the counties low intake of referee's each year?, people are unwilling to go forward with it as they will generally come up against people like yourself and others..

If a Cargin man referees a St Galls club league/Championship match, which happens often, do we lose the run of ourselves? Catch yourself on
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought. Ea

NAG1

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 18, 2018, 09:27:10 AM
Quote from: Loughshore Green on September 18, 2018, 09:16:05 AM
Lamh Dhearg vs cargin  - referee from St Galls and the winner probably plays st galls in the semi final.

The referee has a good reputation but for the avoidance of any doubt he shouldn't be reffing it. END OF. Problem Solved

I'm not sure if you are aware of the counties low intake of referee's each year?, people are unwilling to go forward with it as they will generally come up against people like yourself and others..

If a Cargin man referees a St Galls club league/Championship match, which happens often, do we lose the run of ourselves? Catch yourself on

Pick the best two men for the job regardless of their club (obviously not reffing their own club)
Let them do what they have done for years to get there and ref two of the biggest three games of the year in the county.

Think clubs should start concerning themselves more with the standard of football in the county and the standard of player than worrying about the attitude of a ref in a certain game.


themac_23

Quote from: NAG1 on September 18, 2018, 09:50:20 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 18, 2018, 09:27:10 AM
Quote from: Loughshore Green on September 18, 2018, 09:16:05 AM
Lamh Dhearg vs cargin  - referee from St Galls and the winner probably plays st galls in the semi final.

The referee has a good reputation but for the avoidance of any doubt he shouldn't be reffing it. END OF. Problem Solved

I'm not sure if you are aware of the counties low intake of referee's each year?, people are unwilling to go forward with it as they will generally come up against people like yourself and others..

If a Cargin man referees a St Galls club league/Championship match, which happens often, do we lose the run of ourselves? Catch yourself on

Pick the best two men for the job regardless of their club (obviously not reffing their own club)
Let them do what they have done for years to get there and ref two of the biggest three games of the year in the county.

Think clubs should start concerning themselves more with the standard of football in the county and the standard of player than worrying about the attitude of a ref in a certain game.

Exactly, not fair on refs who have worked hard all year, i suppose in theory if a referees club is in a semi final, theres a good chance they will make the final so the ref cant get the final so to rule him out of getting a semi final is unfair, remember referees love the game too its not really fair for a referee who turns up on wet nights to referee 2 teams in a meaningless league game to then get overlooked for an important game because his club is involved in the other semi

Na Glinntí Glasa

Quote from: NAG1 on September 18, 2018, 09:50:20 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 18, 2018, 09:27:10 AM
Quote from: Loughshore Green on September 18, 2018, 09:16:05 AM
Lamh Dhearg vs cargin  - referee from St Galls and the winner probably plays st galls in the semi final.

The referee has a good reputation but for the avoidance of any doubt he shouldn't be reffing it. END OF. Problem Solved

I'm not sure if you are aware of the counties low intake of referee's each year?, people are unwilling to go forward with it as they will generally come up against people like yourself and others..

If a Cargin man referees a St Galls club league/Championship match, which happens often, do we lose the run of ourselves? Catch yourself on

Pick the best two men for the job regardless of their club (obviously not reffing their own club)
Let them do what they have done for years to get there and ref two of the biggest three games of the year in the county.

Think clubs should start concerning themselves more with the standard of football in the county and the standard of player than worrying about the attitude of a ref in a certain game.

prob the most sensible post ive seen in a while.
hurl like f**k boi!

Hectic

Being a ref can be a thankless task.  I would actually be less concerned about what is being highlighted about championship games than I would be around important league games. Even if a ref were to show bias he still could not do enough to help a way inferior team win a game. It would be the closer games and in that his own club then would be playing one of two teams of similar ability.

My main gripe about referees would be the one or two that do not get themselves fit enough to mive beyond either 45 and of course the inability to record the score accurately to the point the wrong outcome can be recorded.