The SDLP

[Milltown Row2]

That is incredible.
In the 50s even in Crossmaglen Nationalists would concede that NI was better than the South because of social supports.
Now the South is far wealthier.

I think wages were always at least as high in the south, but there few no jobs and fewer socials support (since the taxation on the few jobs couldn't support them).
Now even I would not remember the 1950s, but in 1970 (say) you had social supports in NI that have gone backwards in the meantime. For instance, when I was a child we looked after an aged relative who lived nearby. She had a rota of home helps coming in and out, district nurse to call by etc. Nowadays it is hard to get those services in NI and you probably have as good a chance in the 26 counties.

Care workers in the homes have diminished in the north?

I regularly see them in my area with the elderly ones, by the same token I know ones that refuse them. I think if you want home help and fit the criteria then its available.

[johnnycool]

That is incredible.
In the 50s even in Crossmaglen Nationalists would concede that NI was better than the South because of social supports.
Now the South is far wealthier.

I think wages were always at least as high in the south, but there few no jobs and fewer socials support (since the taxation on the few jobs couldn't support them).
Now even I would not remember the 1950s, but in 1970 (say) you had social supports in NI that have gone backwards in the meantime. For instance, when I was a child we looked after an aged relative who lived nearby. She had a rota of home helps coming in and out, district nurse to call by etc. Nowadays it is hard to get those services in NI and you probably have as good a chance in the 26 counties.

Care packages exist in the north ok.

Care workers do home visits 3 to 4 times a day, 365 days in the year.

Getting a home GP visit is a thing of the past though.

[armaghniac]

Care packages exist in the north ok.

Care workers do home visits 3 to 4 times a day, 365 days in the year.

Getting a home GP visit is a thing of the past though.

These things do exist, of course. But as friend of mine who was a social worker suggested that they were harder to get than years ago, perhaps because there are more old people. The basic point is that years ago these services were clearly superior in the 6 counties whereas nowadays there mightn't be much difference.

[tiempo]

Care packages exist in the north ok.

Care workers do home visits 3 to 4 times a day, 365 days in the year.

Getting a home GP visit is a thing of the past though.

These things do exist, of course. But as friend of mine who was a social worker suggested that they were harder to get than years ago, perhaps because there are more old people. The basic point is that years ago these services were clearly superior in the 6 counties whereas nowadays there mightn't be much difference.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IobNcpiwpSc

[Fear Bun Na Sceilpe]

Why is any of this on the SDLP thread?

[Armagh18]

I see Eastwood calling for vaccine certs for hospitality......

[JoG2]

I see Eastwood calling for vaccine certs for hospitality......

Yes, much like in the South, pressure needs put on anti-vaxers to do their bit for society . They can get all hysterical on social media, but this needs to be done. Anyone with freedom and civil liberty issues can holiday in Solamia / Syria for a month to see what freedom / civil liberties, or lack of actually is. 

[johnnycool]

I see Eastwood calling for vaccine certs for hospitality......

I'd agree with him on that.

Yes, you can chose not to get the vaccine as is your right but then don't gurn when you're required not to enter a private establishment due to the very decision you've made.

It's unfair on staff and other patrons.

[Dire Ear]

Why is it unfair, is it true that both vaccinated and unvaccinated can pass it on and carry it?
Genuinely asking

[armaghniac]

Why is it unfair, is it true that both vaccinated and unvaccinated can pass it on and carry it?
Genuinely asking

People driving sober and with a skinful of pints can both still crash into you, but the probability of the second doing it is higher than the first.

[Redhand Santa]

Another key point is that if the unvaccinated person gets covid they're much more likely to require hospital treatment. And given the pressures on health service it makes sense to try to reduce the spread of covid in these people.

[Dire Ear]

Another key point is that if the unvaccinated person gets covid they're much more likely to require hospital treatment. And given the pressures on health service it makes sense to try to reduce the spread of covid in these people.

I understand that, no problem,  but it's the pressure on care home workers, teachers etc, I don't get

[JoG2]

Another key point is that if the unvaccinated person gets covid they're much more likely to require hospital treatment. And given the pressures on health service it makes sense to try to reduce the spread of covid in these people.

I understand that, no problem,  but it's the pressure on care home workers, teachers etc, I don't get

What about the pressure on the health service? Anti-vaxers were absolute idiots before Covid struck, they continue to be idiots now, there's just more of them. Its all about 'me' with them, selfish in the extreme.

[Dire Ear]

The run down of the NHS is a separate issue, but I'm simply asking why are people being pressured into getting the vaccine if everyone can still pass/carry it???

[JoG2]

The run down of the NHS is a separate issue, but I'm simply asking why are people being pressured into getting the vaccine if everyone can still pass/carry it???

Surely this a wind up?