County Manager Merry go round

[shawshank]

All the Tyrones wans crying bout Harte, they wanted him out, pushed him out and now they are crying about where they want him to manage or not. The entitlement.

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All the Tyrones wans crying bout Harte, they wanted him out, pushed him out and now they are crying about where they want him to manage or not. The entitlement.

How was he pushed out? He had the job for 18 years. His contract wasn't renewed. Maybe due to costs and a cut in revenue streams due to covid, or because he had long since past his sell by date, who knows. He's free to manage whoever he likes. But here's the facts...

He left Louth high and dry after committing to them. Walked out when another piece of ass showed him their thigh if you like. Poor form.
He has gone to one of his native counties biggest rivals. And this coming from the man who talked about loyalty and commitment, often going as far as to directly intervene and stop Tyrone players moving to Australia for a professional life.
His reputation in Tyrone is sullied.

Perhaps, in time, Derry will grow to hate him like we did. I wish him well.

[deadlock]

Good move by Derry board, fresh approach for there Ulster winning team starting in division 1, a trainer who knows Derry club football, a proven all Ireland winning manager and a lot of young talent coming through. Odds shorting on Derry!

[Derryman forever]

Tyrone were top table for every year of Mickey Hartes 18.
The win their 4th all ireland with a team Harte had put together and shaped.
He then took a Division 4 Team and left them in 3rd spot of Division 2.
I don't know if he can take Derry over the line but i do believe he is the best man fir the job.

[Wildweasel74]

O'Rourke was the best man for the job, then Gavin (Unrealistic due to location) then Meenagh, and then McGuinness /Harte, am happy enough that we weren't foolish enough to go in lnhouse. Not be popular in parts of Derry but more due to certain references.some said we take our chances with Gallagher lol,. We see where Harte takes us, can't understand why the Tyronies are in such a Tizzy.

[Lamh Dhearg Alba]

Tyrone were top table for every year of Mickey Hartes 18.
The win their 4th all ireland with a team Harte had put together and shaped.
He then took a Division 4 Team and left them in 3rd spot of Division 2.
I don't know if he can take Derry over the line but i do believe he is the best man fir the job.

He certainly had a big input into the team that won the fourth All-Ireland - strength and conditioning in particular - but they also certainly wouldn't have won it with him in charge. He was absolutely spooked by McGuiness in early 2010s to the extent he changed his style to try and replicate the ultra defensive model. He could never do it anywhere near as effectively McGuiness though (or Gallagher's Derry for that matter) and just limited Tyrone. We beat teams we'd have beaten anyway with a more expansive style and didn't beat anyone really good - which is the only reason you'd adopt such a style. His last truly landmark Tyrone championship wins were in 2008. There was the embarrassing 2017 semi when Tyrone conceded an early goal and had no idea what to do thereafter. The game was gone after 5 mins. On then reaching the final in 2018 he threw out everything he had based the team on and went all out attack for the first 30 mins - absolute desperation stuff which showed up the flaws of his previous rigid plan - and had the game lost by half time. It was so telling in the wake of 2021 that a number of Tyrone players spoke of playing with a freedom and feeling able to take on shots and passes which would have resulted in them being subbed under the suffocating regime of Mickey in the last few years. He stayed on a few years too long in Tyrone.

I think he probably knew there wasn't much more mileage in Louth and this is a good time to cash in and take a job with a stronger team. Don't believe for a second it's got anything to do with money - he will he absolutely determined to try and win another title. But I do really question if he is really the man to kick Derry on - his glory days at the highest level are a pretty long way off now. He's a controversial figure and hard to argue with everything he says and does but I also believe he has also often been an inspirational figure, with the way he has handled terrible loss and helped others in similar situations being particularly impressive.

It's a bold call anyway - from Mickey and Derry - and it's going to be fascinating to watch it unfold.

[Milltown Row2]

Mickey and the Derry county board getting a touch on radio Ulster now.. Revisiting Mickey's bizarre character reference for McCusker and The Derry Co boards approach with Gallagher!

No real interest for GAA unless it's a good aul bashing. That said, surely this is a clanger by the county board?

[93-DY-SAM]

Mickey and the Derry county board getting a touch on radio Ulster now.. Revisiting Mickey's bizarre character reference for McCusker and The Derry Co boards approach with Gallagher!

No real interest for GAA unless it's a good aul bashing. That said, surely this is a clanger by the county board?

The hypocrisy of everyone in that "debate" was unreal. William Crawley had guests on yesterday eulogising Harte and today it was a character assassination. That lady Goretti Horgan hadn't a clue about anything GAA and it was a word salad every time she spoke. Declan Bouge should have had a bit more cop on that to be involved in it.

Where were all these people over the past 10 years? Did they complain and protest at Tyrone keeping him as a manager when this surfaced all them years ago. Did they complain to the BBC when they hired him as an analyst and to Louth when they appointed Mickey as manager? Or is it just because it makes a good soundbite at the minute and it makes them feel relevant? Nicola Gallagher is yesterday's news for the majority of those who pounced on that story at the time including the media. It's typical of social media and the media in general before they move onto the next "popular" story.

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Mickey and the Derry county board getting a touch on radio Ulster now.. Revisiting Mickey's bizarre character reference for McCusker and The Derry Co boards approach with Gallagher!

No real interest for GAA unless it's a good aul bashing. That said, surely this is a clanger by the county board?

The hypocrisy of everyone in that "debate" was unreal. William Crawley had guests on yesterday eulogising Harte and today it was a character assassination. That lady Goretti Horgan hadn't a clue about anything GAA and it was a word salad every time she spoke. Declan Bouge should have had a bit more cop on that to be involved in it.

Where were all these people over the past 10 years? Did they complain and protest at Tyrone keeping him as a manager when this surfaced all them years ago. Did they complain to the BBC when they hired him as an analyst and to Louth when they appointed Mickey as manager? Or is it just because it makes a good soundbite at the minute and it makes them feel relevant? Nicola Gallagher is yesterday's news for the majority of those who pounced on that story at the time including the media. It's typical of social media and the media in general before they move onto the next "popular" story.

Spot on

[Derryman forever]

How do you figure its a clanger?

Mickey and the Derry county board getting a touch on radio Ulster now.. Revisiting Mickey's bizarre character reference for McCusker and The Derry Co boards approach with Gallagher!

No real interest for GAA unless it's a good aul bashing. That said, surely this is a clanger by the county board?

[RedHand88]

Brolly was made look a bit of a tit yesterday when he complained about someone managing another county and how its against the spirit of the GAA. It was pointed out that there are many managers doing the same (Mcconville Wicklow, Morgan Leitrim) and he hasn't complained about them once!

[Derryman forever]

Brolly was made look a bit of a tit yesterday when he complained about someone managing another county and how its against the spirit of the GAA. It was pointed out that there are many managers doing the same (Mcconville Wicklow, Morgan Leitrim) and he hasn't complained about them once!

Did Brian Mullins not manage him to an Ulster championship?

[illdecide]

Tyrone wans hounded him out when he clearly wanted to stay, Micky believed what he achieved with Tyrone that he could stay on for as long as he liked but majority of Tyrone wans wanted him out and they got their wish. No big deal when he managed Louth but now he's got a bigger and better opportunity on his door step with little to no travelling and because it's the next door neighbours Tyronies are having a fit...Wise up...it's like when you get rid of the girlfriend but find out she's found another man and you don't like it

Will be interesting if/when Derry play Tyrone what reaction he'll get

[RedHand88]

Tyrone wans hounded him out when he clearly wanted to stay, Micky believed what he achieved with Tyrone that he could stay on for as long as he liked but majority of Tyrone wans wanted him out and they got their wish. No big deal when he managed Louth but now he's got a bigger and better opportunity on his door step with little to no travelling and because it's the next door neighbours Tyronies are having a fit...Wise up...it's like when you get rid of the girlfriend but find out she's found another man and you don't like it

Will be interesting if/when Derry play Tyrone what reaction he'll get

Is it bigger and better? He's going from a county with 3 all-ireland to a county with 1 all-ireland.

[laceer]

Harte got 18 years in the Tyrone job, 13 after his last All Ireland, so not like he was forced out before his time a lá Eamonn Coleman. Greatest Tyrone manager ever but it was time to hand over the reins.

Moving to a neighbouring county for a chance of success, and a few quid no doubt, was always going to rankle with his own people - when Sean Cavanagh/Conor McKenna/Kyle Coney spoke to AFL teams he was always quick to bring up loyalty and playing your own game for your own people. Does this not apply to management also?

I couldn't see McGeeney manage Tyrone, or Jim Gavin manage Kerry - or Harte's predecessor in Tyrone, Big Art McRory go to manage a rival - that's a measure of loyalty to your own in my opinion. With Harte it feels like it's more about himself proving a point than loyalty to his own county.