The Many Faces of US Politics...

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whitey

#16110
Quote from: Gabriel_Hurl on May 18, 2020, 05:39:26 PM
Both sons of the POTUS insinuating his election opponent is a paedophile  =/= "fight fire with fire".

There are no depths to your f**king stupidity.

Well the MSM broadcast far and wide that Brett Kavanaugh has drugged and gang raped dozens of women (without a shred of evidence-I might add)

https://www.google.com/amp/s/time.com/5407289/brett-kavanaugh-julie-swetnick-congress/%3famp=true

"There's no way that we can vote on this nomination Friday in good conscience," said Democratic Sen. Richard Blumenthal, who called Swetnick's allegations "gut-wrenching." "What [these allegations] portray is a pattern of vile, predatory sexual attacks. There's no way that the United States Senate should vote on this nomination without a full fledged investigation

Not so nice, when the boot is on the other foot, is it?

five points

A Google Images search for "Creepy Joe" says it all.

sid waddell

Quote from: Gabriel_Hurl on May 18, 2020, 05:39:26 PM
Both sons of the POTUS insinuating his election opponent is a paedophile  =/= "fight fire with fire".
Projection from the Trumps again - accuse your opponent of being what you yourself are.

Trump is very a likely a paedophile and was best buddies with Epstein for many years.

https://cdn.factcheck.org/UploadedFiles/Johnson_TrumpEpstein_Lawsuit.pdf

7. Plaintiff was subject to acts of rape, sexual misconduct, criminal sexual acts,
sexual abuse, forcible touching, assault, battery, intentional and reckless infliction of emotional
distress, duress, false imprisonment, and threats of death and/or serious bodily injury by the
Defendants that took place at several parties during the summer months of 1994. The parties
were held by Defendant Epstein at a New York City residence that was being used by Defendant
Epstein at 9 E. 71st St. in Manhattan. During this period, Plaintiff was a minor of age 13 and
was legally incapable under New York law of consenting to sexual intercourse and the other
sexual contacts detailed herein. NY Penal L § 130.05(3)(a). The rapes in the first, second, and
third degrees; sexual misconduct; criminal sexual acts in the first, second, and third degrees;
sexual abuse in the first, second, and third degrees; and forcible touching (and, on information
Case 1:16-cv-07673-RA Document 4 Filed 10/03/16 Page 2 of 10
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and belief, predatory sexual assault) detailed herein are unlawful under New York law, e.g., NY
Penal L § 130.20-130.52, and 130.55-130.65 (and, on information and belief, 130.95) and
constitute the torts of, inter alia, assault, battery, false imprisonment, and intentional or reckless
infliction of emotional distress, including threats of force and serious bodily harm, under New
York law. In addition, 18 U.S. Code § 2255 provides Plaintiff with a civil remedy for personal
injuries because Plaintiff, while a minor, was a victim of violations of 18 U.S.C. §§ 1591, 2421,
2422(b), and 2423(a) and she suffered personal injury as a result of such violations. Declaration
of Plaintiff Jane Doe, Exhibit A hereto; Declaration of Tiffany Doe, Exhibit B hereto;
Declaration of Joan Doe, Exhibit C hereto; Jane Doe, Tiffany Doe, and Joan Doe are each
pseudonyms as each woman wishes anonymity. Tiffany Doe, a witness, was an employee of
Defendant Epstein. Exh. B. Joan Doe, a witness, was a childhood classmate of Plaintiff who, in
the 1994-95 school year, was told by Plaintiff that Plaintiff was subject to sexual contact by the
Defendants at parties in New York City during the summer of 1994. Exh. C.
8. Courts have discretion to allow proceeding anonymously where the need for
privacy outweighs the public's interest in knowing their identity and any prejudice to the
defendants. Sealed Plaintiff v. Sealed Defendant, 537 F.3d 185, 189 (2d Cir. 2008). This
litigation involves matters that are highly sensitive and of a personal nature, and identification of
Plaintiff would pose a risk of retaliatory physical harm to her and to others. Exh. A. All of the
ten factors that the Second Circuit articulated as relevant to this analysis favor anonymity,
especially factors 1-4, 7, and 10 (e.g., factors one and two: "whether the litigation involves
matters that are 'highly sensitive and [of a] personal nature,'" and "'whether identification poses
a risk of retaliatory physical or mental harm to the ... party [seeking to proceed anonymously] or
Case 1:16-cv-07673-RA Document 4 Filed 10/03/16 Page 3 of 10
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even more critically, to innocent non-parties'".), or are neutral with respect to anonymity.
Protecting Plaintiff's anonymity is also appropriate as she is a rape victim.
9. Plaintiff was enticed by promises of money and a modeling career to attend a
series of parties, with other similarly situated minor females, held at a New York City residence
that was being used by Defendant Jeffrey Epstein. At least four of the parties were attended by
Defendant Trump.
Exhs. A and B. On information and belief, by this time in 1994, Defendant
Trump had known Defendant Epstein for seven years (New York, 10/28/02, "'I've known Jeff for
fifteen years. Terrific guy,'' Trump booms from a speakerphone. 'He's a lot of fun to be with. It
is even said that he likes beautiful women as much as I do, and many of them are on the younger
side. No doubt about it -- Jeffrey enjoys his social life.'"), and knew that Plaintiff was then just
13 years old. Exhs. A and B.

10. Defendant Trump initiated sexual contact with Plaintiff at four different parties.
On the fourth and final sexual encounter with Defendant Trump, Defendant Trump tied Plaintiff
to a bed, exposed himself to Plaintiff, and then proceeded to forcibly rape Plaintiff. During the
course of this savage sexual attack, Plaintiff loudly pleaded with Defendant Trump to stop but
with no effect. Defendant Trump responded to Plaintiff's pleas by violently striking Plaintiff in
the face with his open hand and screaming that he would do whatever he wanted. Exhs. A and
B.
11. Immediately following this rape, Defendant Trump threatened Plaintiff that, were
she ever to reveal any of the details of the sexual and physical abuse of her by Defendant Trump,
Plaintiff and her family would be physically harmed if not killed. Exhs. A and B.

12. Defendant Epstein had sexual contact with Plaintiff at two of the parties. The
second sexual encounter with Defendant Epstein took place after Plaintiff had been raped by
Defendant Trump.
Defendant Epstein forced himself upon Plaintiff and proceeded to rape her
anally and vaginally despite her loud pleas to stop. Defendant Epstein then attempted to strike
Plaintiff about the head with his closed fists while he angrily screamed at Plaintiff that he,
Defendant Epstein, rather than Defendant Trump, should have been the one who took Plaintiff's
virginity, before Plaintiff finally managed to break away from Defendant Epstein. Exhs. A and
B

whitey

#16113
Well said Sid-like the Democrats accusing Trump of colluding with Russians, when they're  the ones colluding with Russia by spreading disinformation from Russian Intelligence via the dossier

It's a very effective tactic

sid waddell

Quote from: Gabriel_Hurl on May 18, 2020, 05:39:26 PM
There are no depths to your f**king stupidity.
He just proved it again.  ;D

Gabriel_Hurl

Like shooting fish in a barrel

J70

Quote from: whitey on May 18, 2020, 05:34:28 PM
Quote from: Gabriel_Hurl on May 18, 2020, 05:14:33 PM
The sc**bag apple doesn't fall too far from the sc**bag tree



When you're dealing with people who attempted a coup against a legitimately elected President, I guess you have to fight fire with fire

What a pile of shit.


J70

Quote from: whitey on May 18, 2020, 06:00:15 PM
Well said Sid-like the Democrats accusing Trump of colluding with Russians, when they're  the ones colluding with Russia by spreading disinformation from Russian Intelligence via the dossier

It's a very effective tactic

Except that 1. the Russians WERE doing everything they could to help Trump; 2. he bent over backwards, including at the expense of his own government agencies, to side with Putin at every opportunity; 3. his campaign met with Russian representatives hoping to get dirt, while he called publicly for the Russians to release the Clinton emails; 4. they did everything they could to derail and obstruct the investigation once it got going.

It absolutely SHOULD have been investigated.

J70

#16118
Quote from: whitey on May 18, 2020, 05:46:21 PM
Quote from: Gabriel_Hurl on May 18, 2020, 05:39:26 PM
Both sons of the POTUS insinuating his election opponent is a paedophile  =/= "fight fire with fire".

There are no depths to your f**king stupidity.

Well the MSM broadcast far and wide that Brett Kavanaugh has drugged and gang raped dozens of women (without a shred of evidence-I might add)

https://www.google.com/amp/s/time.com/5407289/brett-kavanaugh-julie-swetnick-congress/%3famp=true

"There's no way that we can vote on this nomination Friday in good conscience," said Democratic Sen. Richard Blumenthal, who called Swetnick's allegations "gut-wrenching." "What [these allegations] portray is a pattern of vile, predatory sexual attacks. There's no way that the United States Senate should vote on this nomination without a full fledged investigation

Not so nice, when the boot is on the other foot, is it?

I thought they reported an allegation?

Has someone come forward and alleged that Biden likes to get up close and personal with children?

Captain Obvious

Quote from: whitey on May 18, 2020, 05:34:28 PM
Quote from: Gabriel_Hurl on May 18, 2020, 05:14:33 PM
The sc**bag apple doesn't fall too far from the sc**bag tree



When you're dealing with people who attempted a coup against a legitimately elected President, I guess you have to fight fire with fire

Like something I would read from a Trump bot on twitter.

sid waddell

Quote from: J70 on May 18, 2020, 06:32:34 PM
Quote from: whitey on May 18, 2020, 06:00:15 PM
Well said Sid-like the Democrats accusing Trump of colluding with Russians, when they're  the ones colluding with Russia by spreading disinformation from Russian Intelligence via the dossier

It's a very effective tactic

Except that 1. the Russians WERE doing everything they could to help Trump; 2. he bent over backwards, including at the expense of his own government agencies, to side with Putin at every opportunity; 3. his campaign met with Russian representatives hoping to get dirt, while he called publicly for the Russians to release the Clinton emails; 4. they did everything they could to derail and obstruct the investigation once it got going.

It absolutely SHOULD have been investigated.
Trump has been a Soviet/Russian asset since 1984 at least. Trump Tower was a front for Russian money laundering and his other properties were the same. You don't do business with the Russian mafia and not become their asset. And the Russian state and the Russian mafia are indivisible.

Trump has used Mafia style intimidation tactics for decades, the sc**bag Roy Cohn trained him well. There's a reason networks and major newspapers mostly stay away from digging into his financial past and Russian criminal ties. It's because i) most journalists themselves come from privileged white backgrounds which inures them to the real of effect of this stuff, ii) because they are careerists first and foremost and iii) because they're terrified.

In Russia, journalists who inquire too much get murdered. America is on the verge of the same thing.


whitey

Quote from: sid waddell on May 18, 2020, 06:44:51 PM
Quote from: J70 on May 18, 2020, 06:32:34 PM
Quote from: whitey on May 18, 2020, 06:00:15 PM
Well said Sid-like the Democrats accusing Trump of colluding with Russians, when they're  the ones colluding with Russia by spreading disinformation from Russian Intelligence via the dossier

It's a very effective tactic

Except that 1. the Russians WERE doing everything they could to help Trump; 2. he bent over backwards, including at the expense of his own government agencies, to side with Putin at every opportunity; 3. his campaign met with Russian representatives hoping to get dirt, while he called publicly for the Russians to release the Clinton emails; 4. they did everything they could to derail and obstruct the investigation once it got going.

It absolutely SHOULD have been investigated.
Trump has been a Soviet/Russian asset since 1984 at least. Trump Tower was a front for Russian money laundering and his other properties were the same. You don't do business with the Russian mafia and not become their asset. And the Russian state and the Russian mafia are indivisible.

Trump has used Mafia style intimidation tactics for decades, the sc**bag Roy Cohn trained him well. There's a reason networks and major newspapers mostly stay away from digging into his financial past and Russian criminal ties. It's because i) most journalists themselves come from privileged white backgrounds which inures them to the real of effect of this stuff, ii) because they are careerists first and foremost and iii) because they're terrified.

In Russia, journalists who inquire too much get murdered. America is on the verge of the same thing.

Okay Boomer

whitey

Quote from: J70 on May 18, 2020, 06:34:47 PM
Quote from: whitey on May 18, 2020, 05:46:21 PM
Quote from: Gabriel_Hurl on May 18, 2020, 05:39:26 PM
Both sons of the POTUS insinuating his election opponent is a paedophile  =/= "fight fire with fire".

There are no depths to your f**king stupidity.

Well the MSM broadcast far and wide that Brett Kavanaugh has drugged and gang raped dozens of women (without a shred of evidence-I might add)

https://www.google.com/amp/s/time.com/5407289/brett-kavanaugh-julie-swetnick-congress/%3famp=true

"There's no way that we can vote on this nomination Friday in good conscience," said Democratic Sen. Richard Blumenthal, who called Swetnick's allegations "gut-wrenching." "What [these allegations] portray is a pattern of vile, predatory sexual attacks. There's no way that the United States Senate should vote on this nomination without a full fledged investigation

Not so nice, when the boot is on the other foot, is it?

I thought they reported an allegation?

Has someone come forward and alleged that Biden likes to get up close and personal with children?

J70....I'm disappointed in you that you haven't memorized the playbook

Just repeat false allegations often enough until people start believing them

Worked very well for you guys with the Russian Collusion Delusion

Gmac

Quote from: Gabriel_Hurl on May 18, 2020, 05:14:33 PM
The sc**bag apple doesn't fall too far from the sc**bag tree


joe wouldn't make it out of the school car park .

J70

Quote from: whitey on May 18, 2020, 07:34:28 PM
Quote from: J70 on May 18, 2020, 06:34:47 PM
Quote from: whitey on May 18, 2020, 05:46:21 PM
Quote from: Gabriel_Hurl on May 18, 2020, 05:39:26 PM
Both sons of the POTUS insinuating his election opponent is a paedophile  =/= "fight fire with fire".

There are no depths to your f**king stupidity.

Well the MSM broadcast far and wide that Brett Kavanaugh has drugged and gang raped dozens of women (without a shred of evidence-I might add)

https://www.google.com/amp/s/time.com/5407289/brett-kavanaugh-julie-swetnick-congress/%3famp=true

"There's no way that we can vote on this nomination Friday in good conscience," said Democratic Sen. Richard Blumenthal, who called Swetnick's allegations "gut-wrenching." "What [these allegations] portray is a pattern of vile, predatory sexual attacks. There's no way that the United States Senate should vote on this nomination without a full fledged investigation

Not so nice, when the boot is on the other foot, is it?

I thought they reported an allegation?

Has someone come forward and alleged that Biden likes to get up close and personal with children?

J70....I'm disappointed in you that you haven't memorized the playbook

Just repeat false allegations often enough until people start believing them

Worked very well for you guys with the Russian Collusion Delusion

WTF are you on about?

Trump's playmate girlfriend lawyer (the same girlfriend Trump's erstwhile trusted fixer, Cohen, went to prison for for campaign finance violations for buying her silence in the run-up to the election)  came out with an additional allegation on top of the credible one already in the public sphere about Kavanaugh. Of course it was news. How wouldn't it be?

As for the "Russian Collusion Delusion", I repeat:

1. the Russians WERE doing everything they could to help Trump; 2. he bent over backwards, including at the expense of his own government agencies, to side with Putin at every opportunity; 3. his campaign met with Russian representatives hoping to get dirt, while he called publicly for the Russians to release the Clinton emails; 4. they did everything they could to derail and obstruct the investigation once it got going.

And let's not forget that Trump's own justice dept hired Mueller, a man with a GOP background and solid standing across parties until he started asking awkward questions.