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Don Draper

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Re: Leinster Minor Football Championship 2017
« Reply #150 on: April 26, 2017, 10:07:52 AM »
That minor game is really getting my back up. At the match I thought the louth penalty was a foot block and fairly given. Now on closer inspection at 8.05 in that video, clearly just hits the back of the knee. Terrible decision for ref being so close. Hate making excuses but we were robbed. One clear pen for us not given, a pen for them given when it shouldn't have been amongst other poor decisions. It's hardest on the players as they're training hard and for bad decisions by the ref to dictate your success is hard to take.
Thats still a foot block. The Laois defender ran into the player as he was taking a kick. Tough on the defender, but by the letter of the law, a penalty.

The pull down was a penalty also, and most likely a black card into the bargain.

The first penalty shouldn't have been given as there was an immediate advantage.

But the Louth one was definitely a penalty also. You can't just run into a players leg as he is kicking the ball, regardless of where he strikes you when you do.

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« Reply #151 on: April 26, 2017, 02:34:15 PM »
RULE 5 AGGRESSIVE FOULS
5.12 To block or attempt to block with the boot
when an opponent is kicking the ball from the
hand(s).

PENALTY FOR THE ABOVE FOULS -
(i) Caution the offender; order off for
second cautionable foul.
(ii) Free kick from where the foul occurred
except as provided under Exceptions of
Rule 2.2.



Where abouts does it say that if a player hits the ball off the back of your knee, it's a free or penalty to them?

Don Draper

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Re: Leinster Minor Football Championship 2017
« Reply #152 on: April 26, 2017, 02:35:41 PM »
RULE 5 AGGRESSIVE FOULS
5.12 To block or attempt to block with the boot
when an opponent is kicking the ball from the
hand(s).

PENALTY FOR THE ABOVE FOULS -
(i) Caution the offender; order off for
second cautionable foul.
(ii) Free kick from where the foul occurred
except as provided under Exceptions of
Rule 2.2.



Where abouts does it say that if a player hits the ball off the back of your knee, it's a free or penalty to them?
You think a footblock only pertains to the foot area? Try that in a match and see how you go.

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Re: Leinster Minor Football Championship 2017
« Reply #153 on: April 26, 2017, 03:00:35 PM »
I'm reading the definition of the rule book and it clearly states the word "boot". Not knee, thigh or arse. If we're going by the words of the rule book, that wasn't a peno. Otherwise, the rules need to be a LOT less vague. I've seen a lot of penalties given for actual blocks by the BOOT but I haven't seen any like that one. Anyone have ANY other footage of a pen for any team been given where someone strikes the ball off someones back knee, thigh or arse?

If I was to ask the referee why it was given, why is it he could say "it was a foot block", when it struck the back of the knee (the popliteus fossa). That needs to be sorted. GAA rules can be very vague but if we're taking it word for word, that is not a penalty kick.

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Re: Leinster Minor Football Championship 2017
« Reply #154 on: April 26, 2017, 03:01:20 PM »
I'm reading the definition of the rule book and it clearly states the word "boot". Not knee, thigh or arse. If we're going by the words of the rule book, that wasn't a peno. Otherwise, the rules need to be a LOT less vague. I've seen a lot of penalties given for actual blocks by the BOOT but I haven't seen any like that one. Anyone have ANY other footage of a pen for any team been given where someone strikes the ball off someones back knee, thigh or arse?

If I was to ask the referee why it was given, why is it he could say "it was a foot block", when it struck the back of the knee (the popliteus fossa). That needs to be sorted. GAA rules can be very vague but if we're taking it word for word, that is not a penalty kick.
Its a footblock and a penalty.

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Re: Leinster Minor Football Championship 2017
« Reply #155 on: April 26, 2017, 04:03:41 PM »
Pity that ref wasn't reffing some of the Dublin games in recent years. Philly McMahon has footblocked on more than one occasion.

Also, should that rule not also apply to goalkeepers?
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