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General discussion / Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch - Fleg Lives Matter
« on: April 08, 2021, 05:05:45 PM »All I have done is show that Sid is hollow and insincere with his rhetoric.
It's not my fault he lacks emotional maturity and while he should certainly be banned, I should not.
Oh believe me, I'm sincere and I have oceans more emotional maturity than you, I have the ability to change my views for one when I feel I'm being lied to
And you are certainly sincere when you spew out continuous hate speech against gay people that SF bots here stand idly by and tut tut at
SF bots have never had a problem with hate speech, as this thread shows
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General discussion / Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch - Fleg Lives Matter
« on: April 08, 2021, 04:58:40 PM »Sure when Warrington and 100 other massacres happened SF's response was to have a cry about the BritsHard core Shinners from NI are no different to parrots who can't deviate from ideology or the vocabulary even when it or they conflict with reality.NI based posters here continually exhibit a superiority complexMy take is straight down the lineShinners have engaged in whataboutery for their entire existenceThought Shinners would have welcomed the violence last night
Shure didn't they do that for 30 years!
Lots of Twitter talk of retaliations tonight
Seems like there could be a serious escalation
Hopefully not
Is there a whatabouttery award thread? I nominate this post.
Arlene Foster's tactic last night was straight out of the Sinn Fein playbook
You'd think NI Irish nationalists would applaud NI British Unionist adoption of SF tactics, it's a compliment if anything - Unionists see how SF tactics have dragged public debate down into the gutter, and they want some of that
NI Irish nationalists certainly can't complain about that
The two sides are well matched
I just feel for the very large section of the NI community who don't want to be part of either "side"
The solution is to get rid of both the DUP and SF through the ballot box and elect reasonable people rather than two parties who groom vulnerable working class youth into criminality, who act like vultures on their communities
That's a certainly skewed outlook on what has happened in the past up here but not surprising. I really don't know where to start.
That must have been some bang on the head you received back in the day.
Northerners insulting people from the Republic has become a common sight on this forum of late, so thanks again for the latest installment of that
For a long time I've warned that rabble rousing for a border poll will cause nothing but trouble in NI
This is continuously disputed by most NI Irish nationalists on this forum, who have consistently underestimated the potential for violence and seem to exist in a fantasy world where NI British Loyalists and Unionists will simply suck it up and take it
And obviously DUP and Loyalist rabble rousing will cause nothing but trouble, like, duh
The thing that annoys a lot of NI Irish nationalists is that reasonable people from the Republic with an interest in the situation in NI can generally read it a lot better than most NI Irish nationalists - because we can sit back and observe with a degree of dispassion and actually see what's going on, whereas a lot of youse can't see the wood for the trees - too much emotional investment, siloed lives, existing in echo chambers, it tends to cloud judgement
Poor Sid suffers from a real superiority complex. We know better than you. A year ago his posts, while wafflely in the extreme, used to hold some valid points. Of late, he just wants to get into a row. Very like the callers to Nolan.
Like bald men boasting they've found a comb
"Youse in the Free State have no right to an opinion but you've also no right to not have an opinion which doesn't tally exactly with mine"
The situation is too.complex for ideology because it requires nuance and only Stoops can do that.
Loyalists wrecking the place and your only contribution to the thread since last night has been to have a yap about SF. Yawn.
Our own lads took a go at it too on the Springfield Rd
Of course they were. Loyalists organised a protest to take place at an interface gate. It was only inevitable that hoods from the other side of the fence would respond. So my original point stands. If you witnessed last nights violence and your only response is to have a cry about SF, then it says a lot about you.
What Foster did is de rigeur for NI bigots, she learned from the masters of whataboutery, SF
SF bots on this forum are going to have to come to terms with the fact they have no case whatsoever to complain about what Foster wrote because they themselves have been carrying on like this for 50 years plus
What Foster wrote was disgraceful, but SF should show a bit of shame and STFU about it
Or change their ways
And that won't happen - because SF demand the right to whatabout, their whole politics is based on it and based on rejecting normal politics and preying on the working class like parasites, just like the DUP do
But you can't have an exclusive right on whatboutery, if you engage in it, don't complain when others do it
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General discussion / Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch - Fleg Lives Matter
« on: April 08, 2021, 04:51:08 PM »No false allegations from me, mateFAO of Snapchap: Are you calling for Angelo to be banned?
If not, why not?
Because you were calling for that other poster to be banned last night for putting up pictures from another forum, so clearly you consider such to be out of bounds
Now, walk the walk and call for Angelo to be banned
You accused me of being "into dead children" and made a false allegation that another poster accused you of child rape. Stop trying to engage with me, you lowlife.
The truth can be hard to take
Embrace it, don't hide from it
Now, address your total double standards
It's obvious you want this forum to be nothing but a fetid little echo chamber for you and Shinnerbot buddies
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General discussion / Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch - Fleg Lives Matter
« on: April 08, 2021, 04:43:58 PM »ive heard news of loyalists taking down a tri color in the small hours of the morning in a northern republican strongholdTaking down themmuns' flegs in interface areas has always been a problem in NI
Sure the Tyrone and Armagh ones were demons for it in '03
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General discussion / Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch - Fleg Lives Matter
« on: April 08, 2021, 04:42:16 PM »Where will you be?A friend phoned me to say he was working beside Lanark Way (on the Shankill Side) when 2 carloads of adult heavies appeared to tell the business to close immediately, vacate the area. About 1.30pm today. Looks like there is a clear plan to escalate rioting and unrest in a big way tonight and over the next few days.
Dozens of businesses were being "advised" to close by these bullies.
Surely the police know about this now, well in advance of what will unfold tonight. Nothing "sporadic" about what's going on...this is an unadulterated properly orchestrated show of menace from loyalist paramilitaries that is being allowed to unfold in daylight without any resistance from the so called authorities.
Time for nationalist community leaders to demonstrate a dignified response by showing it can actually control their areas. Maintain the moral upper hand and do not fall for the trap of contributing to the mayhem, because that is exactly what their plan is.
Where will the PSNI be when it inevitably kicks off again and when these loyalist gangs come to interface areas trying to get things going?
On the front lines being a "hero" like you fantasise about, or in your bedroom with a sock or writing about how much you hate the gays or desperately trawling through screenshots because you cant debate a point?
Now's your chance to be a hero
Don't let your community down!
Anything less and you're a hypocrite
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General discussion / Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch - Fleg Lives Matter
« on: April 08, 2021, 04:37:02 PM »Ahhhh f**k. As if one long winded waffler wasn’t enough.Hard core Shinners from NI are no different to parrots who can't deviate from ideology or the vocabulary even when it or they conflict with reality.NI based posters here continually exhibit a superiority complexMy take is straight down the lineShinners have engaged in whataboutery for their entire existenceThought Shinners would have welcomed the violence last night
Shure didn't they do that for 30 years!
Lots of Twitter talk of retaliations tonight
Seems like there could be a serious escalation
Hopefully not
Is there a whatabouttery award thread? I nominate this post.
Arlene Foster's tactic last night was straight out of the Sinn Fein playbook
You'd think NI Irish nationalists would applaud NI British Unionist adoption of SF tactics, it's a compliment if anything - Unionists see how SF tactics have dragged public debate down into the gutter, and they want some of that
NI Irish nationalists certainly can't complain about that
The two sides are well matched
I just feel for the very large section of the NI community who don't want to be part of either "side"
The solution is to get rid of both the DUP and SF through the ballot box and elect reasonable people rather than two parties who groom vulnerable working class youth into criminality, who act like vultures on their communities
That's a certainly skewed outlook on what has happened in the past up here but not surprising. I really don't know where to start.
That must have been some bang on the head you received back in the day.
Northerners insulting people from the Republic has become a common sight on this forum of late, so thanks again for the latest installment of that
For a long time I've warned that rabble rousing for a border poll will cause nothing but trouble in NI
This is continuously disputed by most NI Irish nationalists on this forum, who have consistently underestimated the potential for violence and seem to exist in a fantasy world where NI British Loyalists and Unionists will simply suck it up and take it
And obviously DUP and Loyalist rabble rousing will cause nothing but trouble, like, duh
The thing that annoys a lot of NI Irish nationalists is that reasonable people from the Republic with an interest in the situation in NI can generally read it a lot better than most NI Irish nationalists - because we can sit back and observe with a degree of dispassion and actually see what's going on, whereas a lot of youse can't see the wood for the trees - too much emotional investment, siloed lives, existing in echo chambers, it tends to cloud judgement
Poor Sid suffers from a real superiority complex. We know better than you. A year ago his posts, while wafflely in the extreme, used to hold some valid points. Of late, he just wants to get into a row. Very like the callers to Nolan.
Like bald men boasting they've found a comb
"Youse in the Free State have no right to an opinion but you've also no right to not have an opinion which doesn't tally exactly with mine"
The situation is too.complex for ideology because it requires nuance and only Stoops can do that.
Enough about Shinners reading Irish language words they don't understand which have been spelled out phonetically for them to read at the start of speeches
Curry my yoghurt, a koyrjeh, iss moy lum colleen bonya
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General discussion / Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch - Fleg Lives Matter
« on: April 08, 2021, 04:22:47 PM »
FAO of Snapchap: Are you calling for Angelo to be banned?
If not, why not?
Because you were calling for that other poster to be banned last night for putting up pictures from another forum, so clearly you consider such to be out of bounds
Now, walk the walk and call for Angelo to be banned
If not, why not?
Because you were calling for that other poster to be banned last night for putting up pictures from another forum, so clearly you consider such to be out of bounds
Now, walk the walk and call for Angelo to be banned
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General discussion / Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch - Fleg Lives Matter
« on: April 08, 2021, 04:20:24 PM »
Are you having another nervous breakdown, Angelo?
Sure seems like it
Tell us all about that homophobia and anti-Semitism by you that that other poster put up?
You really hate the gays and the Jews, don't you!
I wonder what the reason for that is...
Sure seems like it
Tell us all about that homophobia and anti-Semitism by you that that other poster put up?
You really hate the gays and the Jews, don't you!
I wonder what the reason for that is...
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General discussion / Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch - Fleg Lives Matter
« on: April 08, 2021, 12:26:14 PM »NI based posters here continually exhibit a superiority complexMy take is straight down the lineShinners have engaged in whataboutery for their entire existenceThought Shinners would have welcomed the violence last night
Shure didn't they do that for 30 years!
Lots of Twitter talk of retaliations tonight
Seems like there could be a serious escalation
Hopefully not
Is there a whatabouttery award thread? I nominate this post.
Arlene Foster's tactic last night was straight out of the Sinn Fein playbook
You'd think NI Irish nationalists would applaud NI British Unionist adoption of SF tactics, it's a compliment if anything - Unionists see how SF tactics have dragged public debate down into the gutter, and they want some of that
NI Irish nationalists certainly can't complain about that
The two sides are well matched
I just feel for the very large section of the NI community who don't want to be part of either "side"
The solution is to get rid of both the DUP and SF through the ballot box and elect reasonable people rather than two parties who groom vulnerable working class youth into criminality, who act like vultures on their communities
That's a certainly skewed outlook on what has happened in the past up here but not surprising. I really don't know where to start.
That must have been some bang on the head you received back in the day.
Northerners insulting people from the Republic has become a common sight on this forum of late, so thanks again for the latest installment of that
For a long time I've warned that rabble rousing for a border poll will cause nothing but trouble in NI
This is continuously disputed by most NI Irish nationalists on this forum, who have consistently underestimated the potential for violence and seem to exist in a fantasy world where NI British Loyalists and Unionists will simply suck it up and take it
And obviously DUP and Loyalist rabble rousing will cause nothing but trouble, like, duh
The thing that annoys a lot of NI Irish nationalists is that reasonable people from the Republic with an interest in the situation in NI can generally read it a lot better than most NI Irish nationalists - because we can sit back and observe with a degree of dispassion and actually see what's going on, whereas a lot of youse can't see the wood for the trees - too much emotional investment, siloed lives, existing in echo chambers, it tends to cloud judgement
Poor Sid suffers from a real superiority complex. We know better than you. A year ago his posts, while wafflely in the extreme, used to hold some valid points. Of late, he just wants to get into a row. Very like the callers to Nolan.
Like bald men boasting they've found a comb
"Youse in the Free State have no right to an opinion but you've also no right to not have an opinion which doesn't tally exactly with mine"
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General discussion / Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch - Fleg Lives Matter
« on: April 08, 2021, 12:24:13 PM »It looks increasingly like this is all part of an orchestrated political strategy, stoke the flames, build the rhetoric but keep enough distance so that you can plead ignorance. The row over social distancing breaches at a funeral 9 months ago provided them with some political cover but it was simply a smokescreen for their true objective.
I think the actions of the DUP during the last week has blown their cover. They are attempting to use loyalists as cover to further their political aims. They will try and suck in nationalists to retaliate so that the the media report violence from both sides in the interest of 'balance'.
It can all be dated back to this meeting, would like to have been a fly on the wall there.
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-northern-ireland-56201532
I’m not sure about the use of “strategy” here.
Unionism’s single biggest problem is that their endgame isn’t just a pipe dream, it’s physically impossible. The things that would make them happy: British rule with highly conservative values, an endless supply of skilled manual labour jobs, and most importantly, a minority group in their region to tread upon at any given opportunity, would require a time machine and a return to circa 1950 or so.
As it’s not possible to devise a strategy to fulfil these wishes, anything they’re currently getting up to is little more than an attention seeking ploy.
Like the school bully with no friends, who has kind of realised everyone else in his class has got a little bigger and might swing back at him, they’re currently showing their strength by picking on those who won’t fight back. It’s little more than that. They don’t want an actual real fight, because if the bigger lads from the next form feel the need to step in, they’re probably going to take a proper hiding.
In the sense that they are devoid of any long term strategy I agree totally. The very visible brand of Ulster Loyalism which is setting the agenda for them at present is as alien to much of Britain (whom they cling dearly to) as it is Ireland. It's a mindset deeply ingrained within much of the Ulster Unionism psyche, this need to exert dominance and superiority. Due to a change in demographics the state is no longer providing them with this security to rule in the way that they want and they are lashing out.
To any outsider looking in it must seem bizarre to witness the scenes of the last week. It is 17th century stuff. Masked men parading in streets holding flags, beating drums and blowing flutes and then sending youths out to protest & riot against the police whom they have turned into the temporary bogeymen. Its mindless stuff but they just go deeper down the rabbit hole.
Ulster Loyalism is alien to most of Britain and yet at the same time its mindset isn't alien to much of it, there really isn't very much difference at all between it and Brexitism when you boil it down, and 17 million people voted for Brexit
The need to exert dominance over "the other" is for sure a cancer within most of British Unionism and Loyalism but nobody should think it doesn't exist within Irish Nationalism either, it absolutely does and we see it here on this forum on a regular basis
Both NI British Unionism and Loyalism and NI Irish Nationalism are bastard children, divorced in some ways from their mother countries yet in other ways still somehow an inextricable part of them
And permanently tethered to each other, like siamese twins attached at the head - and the arse
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General discussion / Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch - Fleg Lives Matter
« on: April 08, 2021, 12:14:50 PM »My take is straight down the lineShinners have engaged in whataboutery for their entire existenceThought Shinners would have welcomed the violence last night
Shure didn't they do that for 30 years!
Lots of Twitter talk of retaliations tonight
Seems like there could be a serious escalation
Hopefully not
Is there a whatabouttery award thread? I nominate this post.
Arlene Foster's tactic last night was straight out of the Sinn Fein playbook
You'd think NI Irish nationalists would applaud NI British Unionist adoption of SF tactics, it's a compliment if anything - Unionists see how SF tactics have dragged public debate down into the gutter, and they want some of that
NI Irish nationalists certainly can't complain about that
The two sides are well matched
I just feel for the very large section of the NI community who don't want to be part of either "side"
The solution is to get rid of both the DUP and SF through the ballot box and elect reasonable people rather than two parties who groom vulnerable working class youth into criminality, who act like vultures on their communities
That's a certainly skewed outlook on what has happened in the past up here but not surprising. I really don't know where to start.
That must have been some bang on the head you received back in the day.
Northerners insulting people from the Republic has become a common sight on this forum of late, so thanks again for the latest installment of that
For a long time I've warned that rabble rousing for a border poll will cause nothing but trouble in NI
This is continuously disputed by most NI Irish nationalists on this forum, who have consistently underestimated the potential for violence and seem to exist in a fantasy world where NI British Loyalists and Unionists will simply suck it up and take it
And obviously DUP and Loyalist rabble rousing will cause nothing but trouble, like, duh
The thing that annoys a lot of NI Irish nationalists is that reasonable people from the Republic with an interest in the situation in NI can generally read it a lot better than most NI Irish nationalists - because we can sit back and observe with a degree of dispassion and actually see what's going on, whereas a lot of youse can't see the wood for the trees - too much emotional investment, siloed lives, existing in echo chambers, it tends to cloud judgement
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General discussion / Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch - Fleg Lives Matter
« on: April 08, 2021, 12:03:02 PM »
I had a listen to the Nolan show on Radio Ulster this morning
My mind was a blizzard of a combination of all three of these sketches, and it was hard to think of the callers as anything other than parodies of Give My Head Peace characters, who were themselves parodies
With the exception of Brian in Fermanagh, who made a lot of sense and who I later found out is a Green Party councillor
Need more people like Brian
https://twitter.com/jmgvostpt/status/1357261872609828869
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6i6B7JsZFHk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7l4JA4C3Qis
My mind was a blizzard of a combination of all three of these sketches, and it was hard to think of the callers as anything other than parodies of Give My Head Peace characters, who were themselves parodies
With the exception of Brian in Fermanagh, who made a lot of sense and who I later found out is a Green Party councillor
Need more people like Brian
https://twitter.com/jmgvostpt/status/1357261872609828869
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6i6B7JsZFHk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7l4JA4C3Qis
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General discussion / Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch - Fleg Lives Matter
« on: April 08, 2021, 11:46:17 AM »Shinners have engaged in whataboutery for their entire existenceThought Shinners would have welcomed the violence last night
Shure didn't they do that for 30 years!
Lots of Twitter talk of retaliations tonight
Seems like there could be a serious escalation
Hopefully not
Is there a whatabouttery award thread? I nominate this post.
Arlene Foster's tactic last night was straight out of the Sinn Fein playbook
You'd think NI Irish nationalists would applaud NI British Unionist adoption of SF tactics, it's a compliment if anything - Unionists see how SF tactics have dragged public debate down into the gutter, and they want some of that
NI Irish nationalists certainly can't complain about that
The two sides are well matched
I just feel for the very large section of the NI community who don't want to be part of either "side"
The solution is to get rid of both the DUP and SF through the ballot box and elect reasonable people rather than two parties who groom vulnerable working class youth into criminality, who act like vultures on their communities
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General discussion / Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch - Fleg Lives Matter
« on: April 08, 2021, 11:09:09 AM »
Thought Shinners would have welcomed the violence last night
Shure didn't they do that for 30 years!
Lots of Twitter talk of retaliations tonight
Seems like there could be a serious escalation
Hopefully not
Shure didn't they do that for 30 years!
Lots of Twitter talk of retaliations tonight
Seems like there could be a serious escalation
Hopefully not