Mayo Millionaire backer withholds Money

Started by TheGreatest, September 26, 2019, 08:59:59 AM

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MayoBuck

Quote from: Lar Naparka on December 16, 2019, 04:42:02 PM
Quote from: TheGreatest on December 16, 2019, 02:49:34 PM
https://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/joe-brolly-vertical-blinds-funsize-bananas-and-mass-incompetence-county-boards-are-even-worse-than-we-thought-38785311.html

:o
"The focus was and remains participation and coaching. Dublin spent €1.2m on coaching this year. In that same period, it cost €1m to run the Mayo senior team. Dublin have 52 full-time coaches in schools and small clubs. Their salaries are around €30,000, with the clubs making a contribution towards the cost.
Mayo have four full-time coaches, and two working 19 hours a week. Eight extra coaches in Mayo would cost them around €250,000 and would — pro rata — give them more coaches than the Dubs. Instead, like most counties, the money is disappearing down the black hole of the senior county team, including vertical blinds and fun-size bananas and God only knows what else. No wonder there is civil war in Mayo between the county board and the clubs."

I too read his article and while I have no reason to back the Mayo county board, I think he is being economical with the truth here. He should be able to express his POV without distorting the facts.
By far the greatest items of expenditure are the costs of travelling and accommodation. This season Mayo played nine championship matches and had to travel to New York for the opening game.
With 10 0f the panel residing in Dublin, they travel costs have to be factored in  also. Dublin play most of their games in Croker and have all their players living in the county so Brolly wasn't comparing like with like here and he knew it.
To call  him a devious bullocks would be the understatement of the year.

Brolly also neglects to mention the huge difference in games development funding given to Dublin and Mayo. That's what is used to pay the full time coaches and Mayo clubs are unable to contribute to salaries as they are repaying the MacHale Park loan.

Also, the idea that we can just spend less on the senior team and use the money elsewhere is wrong. Most of the revenue only exists by the senior team going deep into the championship.

mmainsider1973


highorlow

QuoteA number of questions Mr O'Leary and Mayo Need to answer still.

Hey, look after yer own house first, good la.
They get momentum, they go mad, here they go

larryin89

I don't understand why this is all so open , why has o Leary taken to social media Mayoblog etc to air stuff that should surely of been kept a lid on and sorted in-house . Can't help feel he's a bit of a drama queen
Walk-in down mchale rd , sun out, summers day , game day . That's all .

highorlow

#214
QuoteCan't help feel he's a bit of a drama queen

plus an attention seeker.

Doesn't seem like our Joe got any major scoop from him when they were scooping pints together in Doheny and Nesbits a few weeks back.

Jim Gavin retiring obviously put Joes big story back a week. This latest chapter, Joes story and now the O'Leary twitter apology all seem contrived.
They get momentum, they go mad, here they go

dublin7

Quote from: larryin89 on December 17, 2019, 10:03:30 AM
I don't understand why this is all so open , why has o Leary taken to social media Mayoblog etc to air stuff that should surely of been kept a lid on and sorted in-house . Can't help feel he's a bit of a drama queen

I imagine it's because he's sick of being messed around by the county board, so he's going public to try and embarass them into action. 

larryin89

Aragh I dunno , Kerry , donegal and more besides have sugar daddies and they're happy out with a fistful of final tickets if they get there , been mayo we had to be landed with this mule
Walk-in down mchale rd , sun out, summers day , game day . That's all .

weareros

Quote from: dublin7 on December 17, 2019, 12:55:58 PM
Quote from: larryin89 on December 17, 2019, 10:03:30 AM
I don't understand why this is all so open , why has o Leary taken to social media Mayoblog etc to air stuff that should surely of been kept a lid on and sorted in-house . Can't help feel he's a bit of a drama queen

I imagine it's because he's sick of being messed around by the county board, so he's going public to try and embarass them into action.

The county board will be praying he doesn't show up at the Bacon End with the sausage out.

larryin89

Quote from: weareros on December 17, 2019, 01:57:24 PM
Quote from: dublin7 on December 17, 2019, 12:55:58 PM
Quote from: larryin89 on December 17, 2019, 10:03:30 AM
I don't understand why this is all so open , why has o Leary taken to social media Mayoblog etc to air stuff that should surely of been kept a lid on and sorted in-house . Can't help feel he's a bit of a drama queen

I imagine it's because he's sick of being messed around by the county board, so he's going public to try and embarass them into action.

The county board will be praying he doesn't show up at the Bacon End with the sausage out.

;D ;D
Walk-in down mchale rd , sun out, summers day , game day . That's all .

dublin7

Quote from: weareros on December 17, 2019, 01:57:24 PM
Quote from: dublin7 on December 17, 2019, 12:55:58 PM
Quote from: larryin89 on December 17, 2019, 10:03:30 AM
I don't understand why this is all so open , why has o Leary taken to social media Mayoblog etc to air stuff that should surely of been kept a lid on and sorted in-house . Can't help feel he's a bit of a drama queen

I imagine it's because he's sick of being messed around by the county board, so he's going public to try and embarass them into action.

The county board will be praying he doesn't show up at the Bacon End with the sausage out.

At least they pull their lovely blinds he paid for across their office windows to avoid it

Baile Brigín 2

Quote from: MayoBuck on December 16, 2019, 08:31:40 PM
Quote from: Lar Naparka on December 16, 2019, 04:42:02 PM
Quote from: TheGreatest on December 16, 2019, 02:49:34 PM
https://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/joe-brolly-vertical-blinds-funsize-bananas-and-mass-incompetence-county-boards-are-even-worse-than-we-thought-38785311.html

:o
"The focus was and remains participation and coaching. Dublin spent €1.2m on coaching this year. In that same period, it cost €1m to run the Mayo senior team. Dublin have 52 full-time coaches in schools and small clubs. Their salaries are around €30,000, with the clubs making a contribution towards the cost.
Mayo have four full-time coaches, and two working 19 hours a week. Eight extra coaches in Mayo would cost them around €250,000 and would — pro rata — give them more coaches than the Dubs. Instead, like most counties, the money is disappearing down the black hole of the senior county team, including vertical blinds and fun-size bananas and God only knows what else. No wonder there is civil war in Mayo between the county board and the clubs."

I too read his article and while I have no reason to back the Mayo county board, I think he is being economical with the truth here. He should be able to express his POV without distorting the facts.
By far the greatest items of expenditure are the costs of travelling and accommodation. This season Mayo played nine championship matches and had to travel to New York for the opening game.
With 10 0f the panel residing in Dublin, they travel costs have to be factored in  also. Dublin play most of their games in Croker and have all their players living in the county so Brolly wasn't comparing like with like here and he knew it.
To call  him a devious bullocks would be the understatement of the year.

Brolly also neglects to mention the huge difference in games development funding given to Dublin and Mayo. That's what is used to pay the full time coaches and Mayo clubs are unable to contribute to salaries as they are repaying the MacHale Park loan.

Also, the idea that we can just spend less on the senior team and use the money elsewhere is wrong. Most of the revenue only exists by the senior team going deep into the championship.
So your model is unsustainable.

MayoBuck

Correct - It is unsustainable to hire 8 full time coaches, as Brolly suggests, with the current games development funding we receive.

From the Bunker

Quote from: MayoBuck on December 17, 2019, 05:30:37 PM
Correct - It is unsustainable to hire 8 full time coaches, as Brolly suggests, with the current games development funding we receive.

Brolly may be a Barrister but he is no Accountant!

Lar Naparka

Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on December 17, 2019, 03:13:44 PM
Quote from: MayoBuck on December 16, 2019, 08:31:40 PM
Quote from: Lar Naparka on December 16, 2019, 04:42:02 PM
Quote from: TheGreatest on December 16, 2019, 02:49:34 PM
https://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/joe-brolly-vertical-blinds-funsize-bananas-and-mass-incompetence-county-boards-are-even-worse-than-we-thought-38785311.html

:o
"The focus was and remains participation and coaching. Dublin spent €1.2m on coaching this year. In that same period, it cost €1m to run the Mayo senior team. Dublin have 52 full-time coaches in schools and small clubs. Their salaries are around €30,000, with the clubs making a contribution towards the cost.
Mayo have four full-time coaches, and two working 19 hours a week. Eight extra coaches in Mayo would cost them around €250,000 and would — pro rata — give them more coaches than the Dubs. Instead, like most counties, the money is disappearing down the black hole of the senior county team, including vertical blinds and fun-size bananas and God only knows what else. No wonder there is civil war in Mayo between the county board and the clubs."

I too read his article and while I have no reason to back the Mayo county board, I think he is being economical with the truth here. He should be able to express his POV without distorting the facts.
By far the greatest items of expenditure are the costs of travelling and accommodation. This season Mayo played nine championship matches and had to travel to New York for the opening game.
With 10 0f the panel residing in Dublin, they travel costs have to be factored in  also. Dublin play most of their games in Croker and have all their players living in the county so Brolly wasn't comparing like with like here and he knew it.
To call  him a devious bullocks would be the understatement of the year.

Brolly also neglects to mention the huge difference in games development funding given to Dublin and Mayo. That's what is used to pay the full time coaches and Mayo clubs are unable to contribute to salaries as they are repaying the MacHale Park loan.

Also, the idea that we can just spend less on the senior team and use the money elsewhere is wrong. Most of the revenue only exists by the senior team going deep into the championship.
So your model is unsustainable.
I'm using a bit of bog logic here but I think Dublin has  about four times as many registered players as Mayo have. That's going by one of the infographs posted on another thread sometime  ago. (39,000+ vs !0,000+ )
Dublin has 52 full time coaches whereas Mayo have four. So you don't have to be a nuclear physicist to cop that Dublin has only four times as many players but thirteen times as many coaches. Mayo coaches have logistical issues their Dub counterparts wouldn't understand. THe Mayo heads might clock up 20 times as many miles in a working week.
Now, I am not begrudging anything to the Dubs. Everyone else who look for the same if they could get it but the Mayo CB isn't totally clueless and in most cases are doing an okay job. My grief here is with Brolly. If you want to criticise the Mayo CB, and most Mayo fans do, you should at least get your facts straight.
Nil Carborundum Illegitemi

Baile Brigín 2

Hold up. You state that you can't do the basics because the money is tied up in the senior team, and if they struggle, you have less money, so proportionally more has to go into the senior team.

Thats the business model of a league of Ireland club that went bust in the 60's after two seasons.