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Title: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: Ball Hopper on July 21, 2018, 11:06:07 PM
Winner plays in All-Ireland semi-final.

A draw sees Tyrone in semi-final.

Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: ONeill on July 21, 2018, 11:08:18 PM
Mark Murphy and she's in the bag.
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: Jayop on July 22, 2018, 02:58:42 AM
As always any chance of a decent ref and we're favourites. More of that bollox today and we're gone.
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: StephenC on July 22, 2018, 10:02:46 AM
As long as we get a biased ref that'll gift us 6-8 points I feel we have this one in the bag. Players on the pitch will have no say in things.
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: J70 on July 22, 2018, 10:03:12 AM
Quote from: Jayop on July 22, 2018, 02:58:42 AM
As always any chance of a decent ref and we're favourites. More of that bollox today and we're gone.

Why would the quality of the ref tilt the balance towards or away from Tyrone rather than Donegal?
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: Aaron Boone on July 22, 2018, 10:11:56 AM
End of the road for Tyrone 2018 here. They just don't perform in Ballybofey, that's going back generations.

Good luck Donegal in the All-Ireland semi-final.
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: RedHand88 on July 22, 2018, 10:34:37 AM
Quote from: ONeill on July 21, 2018, 11:08:18 PM
Mark Murphy and she's in the bag.

Is Mark Michaels brother?  :P
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: RedHand88 on July 22, 2018, 10:37:09 AM
I think the fact we lit up the scoreboard against roscommon is really going to help us here. Only have to draw, don't need to win. It's them that have to chase it more and beat us.

I'd take a nil nil at this stage  :D
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: cjx on July 22, 2018, 10:43:29 AM
Quote from: Aaron Boone on July 22, 2018, 10:11:56 AM
End of the road for Tyrone 2018 here. They just don't perform in Ballybofey, that's going back generations.

Good luck Donegal in the All-Ireland semi-final.

Tell Mickey John Forbes  (a real tough man!)  that!!! near riot after he tapped a Donegal man that famous day 29 June1973 (surprize surprize the ref missed it).
Donegal were going to withdraw to the fastness of Connacht to hell out of Ulster after that interesting game.

Always remember one of my early county championship matches watching as a boy was the day in Dungannon Ardboe took umbrage at something and it ended a 100 man all in with Arboe suspended for 2 years as I remember it.
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: omagh_gael on July 22, 2018, 10:46:25 AM
The Rossies have clogged up the Don v Ros thread with their arguments. Any Donegal men have an update on Gallagher? He looked to have done his shoulder/collar bone. Came off very gingerly. He'd be a big miss for you.
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: StephenC on July 22, 2018, 10:48:49 AM
Quote from: omagh_gael on July 22, 2018, 10:46:25 AM
The Rossies have clogged up the Don v Ros thread with their arguments. Any Donegal men have an update on Gallagher? He looked to have done his shoulder/collar bone. Came off very gingerly. He'd be a big miss for you.

I haven't heard anything yet. It looked like his elbow I thought - reply seemed to show it being hyper-extended. Either way it certainly doesn't look good. He was in a sling after coming off.

Massive miss for us for sure; he was on track for an all-star should we have made the semis.
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: Fear ón Srath Bán on July 22, 2018, 02:43:38 PM
Quote from: J70 on July 22, 2018, 10:03:12 AM
Quote from: Jayop on July 22, 2018, 02:58:42 AM
As always any chance of a decent ref and we're favourites. More of that bollox today and we're gone.

Why would the quality of the ref tilt the balance towards or away from Tyrone rather than Donegal?

Coldrick is the fecking essence of inconsistency, that's the problem, and that's why those little flare-ups in Omagh materialised last night. Players know when they've been sold a pup, or a referee who remembers rules of the game with the constancy of a whore's knickers on her hips.

Meath hoor ;)
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: rrhf on July 22, 2018, 03:42:54 PM
A bad referee. Dublin are a better team but they needed the ref to keep Tyrone at bay.
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: Whitnail on July 22, 2018, 06:06:09 PM
Inevitable this group would come down to a ding dong in ballybofey. We've had the easiest road through ulster in many a year .

I think the winner will play Galway as i expect Monaghan to win the other group ( just my opinion).
Murphy will need to keep his cool as he will be targeted big time but i think we can still score enough without him thankfully
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: rrhf on July 22, 2018, 07:32:57 PM
I think big Murhp is well capable of giving and taking it
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: Jinxy on July 22, 2018, 07:53:26 PM
Quote from: Whitnail on July 22, 2018, 06:06:09 PM
Inevitable this group would come down to a ding dong in ballybofey. We've had the easiest road through ulster in many a year .

I think the winner will play Galway as i expect Monaghan to win the other group ( just my opinion).
Murphy will need to keep his cool as he will be targeted big time but i think we can still score enough without him thankfully

Huh?
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: An Watcher on July 22, 2018, 10:52:40 PM
Winner of this game will finish second and play the winner of Galway Monaghan.

Looking forward to ballybofey.  Hasn't been a happy hunting for us for the last number of years.  I remember the late Cormac mcanallen lifting the McKenna cup there shortly before his death.
Think it has become a particularly hostile location for tyrone Thorne in recent years but hopefully we can get one over on them and take on galway/Monaghan in the semi
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: Main Street on July 22, 2018, 11:25:18 PM
This has the makings of the game of the 3rd round., pure ulster retro grind.
My sentiments would be for Donegal, (overly fond lingering intimate memories from many summers spent in Rann na Feirste), however this is about football, Tyrone have impressed as a quality outfit since their dodgy beginnings this year and should prevail over a weakened Donegal
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: RedHand88 on July 23, 2018, 12:05:21 AM
Rumour has it Donegal have narrowed the stairway tunnel in Ballybofey to disrupt Tyrone.
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: redhandefender on July 23, 2018, 10:16:30 AM
Quote from: Main Street on July 22, 2018, 11:25:18 PM
This has the makings of the game of the 3rd round., pure ulster retro grind.
My sentiments would be for Donegal, (overly fond lingering intimate memories from many summers spent in Rann na Feirste), however this is about football, Tyrone have impressed as a quality outfit since their dodgy beginnings this year and should prevail over a weakened Donegal

You're sentiments say Donegal because you are never done on here slobbering about Tyrone.

Great way to end the series for both counties. Taking on the neighbours ion the back garden. Have a lot of Donegal family and friends and there hasn't been a word said yet form either side. Its tough to call. I think by end of this week our boys will feel good about the weekend and go in to this with full confidence. a weeks break will definitely help us.

Is Gallagher out then? Brennan and Bradley back in the mix could be massive.
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: omagh_gael on July 23, 2018, 02:31:58 PM
Quote from: redhandefender on July 23, 2018, 10:16:30 AM
Quote from: Main Street on July 22, 2018, 11:25:18 PM
This has the makings of the game of the 3rd round., pure ulster retro grind.
My sentiments would be for Donegal, (overly fond lingering intimate memories from many summers spent in Rann na Feirste), however this is about football, Tyrone have impressed as a quality outfit since their dodgy beginnings this year and should prevail over a weakened Donegal

You're sentiments say Donegal because you are never done on here slobbering about Tyrone.

Great way to end the series for both counties. Taking on the neighbours ion the back garden. Have a lot of Donegal family and friends and there hasn't been a word said yet form either side. Its tough to call. I think by end of this week our boys will feel good about the weekend and go in to this with full confidence. a weeks break will definitely help us.

Is Gallagher out then? Brennan and Bradley back in the mix could be massive.


If Gallagher is out I think his miss could be huge for our FF line. He's a very impressive operator.

I think we have to engineer the team to get Bradley and Brennan in from the start. This is do or die and we seen in other games the more advanced/focused forward play compared to us. We started with McAliskey, Brennan and Bradley versus Monaghan. How do we do it in Ballybofey. My thoughts on the team would be...

Morgan
McKernan
Hampsey (on Murphy)
HP McGeary
McCann
Burns
Harte
Colm
R Donnelly
Donnelly
Sludden
Meyler
Bradley
McAliskey
Brennan

I was thinking why we didn't see L Brennan on Saturday and only conclusion is he has had a minor setback or, more likely, Harte thought our gameplan for the last 10 minutes wasn't going to suit his game so held off to give him a full two weeks further recovery.
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: bigpackiechestout on July 23, 2018, 03:19:32 PM
Quote from: omagh_gael on July 23, 2018, 02:31:58 PM
Quote from: redhandefender on July 23, 2018, 10:16:30 AM
Quote from: Main Street on July 22, 2018, 11:25:18 PM
This has the makings of the game of the 3rd round., pure ulster retro grind.
My sentiments would be for Donegal, (overly fond lingering intimate memories from many summers spent in Rann na Feirste), however this is about football, Tyrone have impressed as a quality outfit since their dodgy beginnings this year and should prevail over a weakened Donegal

You're sentiments say Donegal because you are never done on here slobbering about Tyrone.

Great way to end the series for both counties. Taking on the neighbours ion the back garden. Have a lot of Donegal family and friends and there hasn't been a word said yet form either side. Its tough to call. I think by end of this week our boys will feel good about the weekend and go in to this with full confidence. a weeks break will definitely help us.

Is Gallagher out then? Brennan and Bradley back in the mix could be massive.


If Gallagher is out I think his miss could be huge for our FF line. He's a very impressive operator.

I think we have to engineer the team to get Bradley and Brennan in from the start. This is do or die and we seen in other games the more advanced/focused forward play compared to us. We started with McAliskey, Brennan and Bradley versus Monaghan. How do we do it in Ballybofey. My thoughts on the team would be...

Morgan
McKernan
Hampsey (on Murphy)
HP McGeary
McCann
Burns
Harte
Colm
R Donnelly
Donnelly
Sludden
Meyler
Bradley
McAliskey
Brennan

I was thinking why we didn't see L Brennan on Saturday and only conclusion is he has had a minor setback or, more likely, Harte thought our gameplan for the last 10 minutes wasn't going to suit his game so held off to give him a full two weeks further recovery.

Lee Brennan won't start the Donegal game, and it would be too much to ask him to start a game like that after going 3 months with zero game time whatsoever. I like the look of your team except I'd have McShane starting instead of Brennan. Although I am also mindful that this would leave us with very few actual defenders on the pitch considering that Harte is basically a forward whilst Burns and McCann are also quite attacking players.

I also wouldn't rule out McNamee being fit to start. It just looked like he got a heavy kick on the leg so it could end up just being bruising.
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: Rois on July 23, 2018, 04:11:38 PM
Tickets onsale on tickets.ie
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: WT4E on July 23, 2018, 04:39:10 PM
Haven't had much time to catch up on the Tyrone Dublin chat thread. But in my opinion Colm Cavanagh's role is now pointless. He was very good at playing that role but I think we need to move away from that system and I think unfortunately for Colm C he seems to just be too well programmed and I think he can't offer what we need going forward.

I think one of the biggest turning points in the game was when McClure came on and drove us on. I would be in favour of him starting ahead of Cavanagh and also a new partner could be required as Hampsey was awful against Dublin (Great player so I would just move him back to replace McNamee). I know thats a long shot to change midfleld totally at this stage in the year but it could give Tyrone a further edge.
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: J70 on July 23, 2018, 05:51:43 PM
Think Tyrone would be four or five point favourites going into this, even with home advantage for us. The loss of McBrearty will be felt here as we need some muscle inside to vary things instead of running into the Tyrone phalanx and getting turned over on the 50. Tyrone penned us in last year as well in that devastating second quarter, although the change of keeper has definitely improved us on that front. But I would expect McHugh and Murphy to be well shackled and with Paddy out too, other players are really going to have to stand up, many of them inexperienced, so I wouldn't be too confident going into this. Getting possession and working scoring opportunities are not going to be easy, which means Murphy will be pulled out the field, leaving us seriously lacking inside. Biggest ever championship game in Ballybofey as well. Hopefully the boys surprise us.
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: omagh_gael on July 23, 2018, 07:13:14 PM
I'd love to see us drop the double sweeper approach and use Burns dropping back and hold Colm further up the pitch. Not one team used a full time sweeper in any of the other games. Surely it'd make sense to have one man drop back when the opposition gain possession. Use Burns in traditional CHB spot when we have the ball and let him drop back 15/20 yards when we lose it with Colm filling the CHB spot.

We need to go for this game early doors. I don't see the reasoning why we should be cautious. Get Bradley on from the start and Lee on early in 2nd half if he's not 100% to start yet. We hammered them last year when they had McBrearty and we, arguably, are a better team than last year. Donegal have only beat one Division 1 team all year (Kildare by 2) and have had an easy run through Ulster.

I'm going for a 4 point Tyrone win. No point beating about the bush.
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: Maroon Manc on July 23, 2018, 07:55:15 PM
The bookies have both teams at even money.



Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: Jinxy on July 23, 2018, 08:20:55 PM
Quote from: RedHand88 on July 23, 2018, 12:05:21 AM
Rumour has it Donegal have narrowed the stairway tunnel in Ballybofey to disrupt Tyrone.

I heard they're going to make the pitch shorter by 6m so Michael Murphy doesn't have to do as much running.
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: Therealdonald on July 23, 2018, 10:02:14 PM
Quote from: omagh_gael on July 23, 2018, 07:13:14 PM
I'd love to see us drop the double sweeper approach and use Burns dropping back and hold Colm further up the pitch. Not one team used a full time sweeper in any of the other games. Surely it'd make sense to have one man drop back when the opposition gain possession. Use Burns in traditional CHB spot when we have the ball and let him drop back 15/20 yards when we lose it with Colm filling the CHB spot.

We need to go for this game early doors. I don't see the reasoning why we should be cautious. Get Bradley on from the start and Lee on early in 2nd half if he's not 100% to start yet. We hammered them last year when they had McBrearty and we, arguably, are a better team than last year. Donegal have only beat one Division 1 team all year (Kildare by 2) and have had an easy run through Ulster.

I'm going for a 4 point Tyrone win. No point beating about the bush.

Seen it said above about Colly Cav going off and us playing freely, Burns also went off at the same stage. Burns playing CHB is a non-starter as he can't mark a man. Good as a sweeper but nowt else. Glad to see Hampsey going to 3 if McNamee hurt. Id say the forward line will stay the same. Donegal's defence are big strong quick men, no point sending in Bradley or Lee Brennan against them untill it opens up.
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: redzone on July 23, 2018, 10:33:59 PM
Quote from: bigpackiechestout on July 23, 2018, 03:19:32 PM
Quote from: omagh_gael on July 23, 2018, 02:31:58 PM
Quote from: redhandefender on July 23, 2018, 10:16:30 AM
Quote from: Main Street on July 22, 2018, 11:25:18 PM
This has the makings of the game of the 3rd round., pure ulster retro grind.
My sentiments would be for Donegal, (overly fond lingering intimate memories from many summers spent in Rann na Feirste), however this is about football, Tyrone have impressed as a quality outfit since their dodgy beginnings this year and should prevail over a weakened Donegal

You're sentiments say Donegal because you are never done on here slobbering about Tyrone.

Great way to end the series for both counties. Taking on the neighbours ion the back garden. Have a lot of Donegal family and friends and there hasn't been a word said yet form either side. Its tough to call. I think by end of this week our boys will feel good about the weekend and go in to this with full confidence. a weeks break will definitely help us.

Is Gallagher out then? Brennan and Bradley back in the mix could be massive.


If Gallagher is out I think his miss could be huge for our FF line. He's a very impressive operator.

I think we have to engineer the team to get Bradley and Brennan in from the start. This is do or die and we seen in other games the more advanced/focused forward play compared to us. We started with McAliskey, Brennan and Bradley versus Monaghan. How do we do it in Ballybofey. My thoughts on the team would be...

Morgan
McKernan
Hampsey (on Murphy)
HP McGeary
McCann
Burns
Harte
Colm
R Donnelly
Donnelly
Sludden
Meyler
Bradley
McAliskey
Brennan

I was thinking why we didn't see L Brennan on Saturday and only conclusion is he has had a minor setback or, more likely, Harte thought our gameplan for the last 10 minutes wasn't going to suit his game so held off to give him a full two weeks further recovery.

Lee Brennan won't start the Donegal game, and it would be too much to ask him to start a game like that after going 3 months with zero game time whatsoever. I like the look of your team except I'd have McShane starting instead of Brennan. Although I am also mindful that this would leave us with very few actual defenders on the pitch considering that Harte is basically a forward whilst Burns and McCann are also quite attacking players.

I also wouldn't rule out McNamee being fit to start. It just looked like he got a heavy kick on the leg so it could end up just being bruising.

I'd have Kieran mcgeary in for meyler. Brennan prob won't be fit to start so McShane in there,who I thought played well on Saturday. Harte won't abandon collys role at this stage. A lot of posters seem to fear this donegal team, I don't think they have a patch on the team that mcguiness had
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: lenny on July 23, 2018, 10:56:54 PM
Quote from: Maroon Manc on July 23, 2018, 07:55:15 PM
The bookies have both teams at even money.

If both teams were at full strength I'd fancy donegal by 5 or 6 given the home advantage.With mcbrearty and gallagher out donegal have lost 2 of their top players. With that in mind I'd say tyrone will sneak this by 1 or 2. It's some opportunity for both sides so there will be pressure and nerves.
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: NotedObserver on July 23, 2018, 11:18:27 PM
Does anyone know if the East Terrace tickets at Ballybofey are behind the goals or general terrace?
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: J70 on July 24, 2018, 01:35:42 AM
Quote from: NotedObserver on July 23, 2018, 11:18:27 PM
Does anyone know if the East Terrace tickets at Ballybofey are behind the goals or general terrace?

Side of the pitch, Stranorlar side, opposite covered stand.

Advice I always give for Ballybofey - head towards the river end goals and you should get a good spot in either the stand or east terrace. They always fill up from midfield to the town end first.
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: WT4E on July 24, 2018, 01:07:34 PM
I would love to see the lineup below but unlikely to happen as Harte won't change tactics too much at this stage - I think we should some balls and drop the sweeper and let Burns do the covering from CHB:

1 Morgan
2 McKernan
3 Hampsey
4 HP McGeary
5 Meyler
6 Burns
7 Harte
8 Mattie D
9 McClure
10 K McGeary
11 Sludden
12 McShane
13 McAliskey
14 Ritchie D
15 Bradley
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: Under Lights on July 24, 2018, 01:16:42 PM
McCann?
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: WT4E on July 24, 2018, 01:22:33 PM
Quote from: Under Lights on July 24, 2018, 01:16:42 PM
McCann?

I think we play better without McCann - Maybe a good sub to come on cause has good energy but he can't defend - the team played much better when he was unavailable in the league!
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: Dire Ear on July 24, 2018, 01:33:15 PM
Cavanagh?
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: Redhand Santa on July 24, 2018, 01:43:29 PM
Colm Cavanagh has had a tough year with injuries but if he can get himself fit he walks into that team. One of the real battlers on the team who gets stuck in. In the gaa we are far too quick to write players off when they still have plenty to offer.
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: omagh_gael on July 24, 2018, 01:46:33 PM
Still can't believe some lads would drop McCann. Yeah, he may not be the best defender in the world but he is one of our main strike runners that break through defences and pick up scores or make opportunities for others. He's the sort of player tailor made for the Donegal game as they'll have a tight defensive screen around their own 45.
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: Dire Ear on July 24, 2018, 01:53:11 PM
Quote from: omagh_gael on July 24, 2018, 01:46:33 PM
Still can't believe some lads would drop McCann. Yeah, he may not be the best defender in the world but he is one of our main strike runners that break through defences and pick up scores or make opportunities for others. He's the sort of player tailor made for the Donegal game as they'll have a tight defensive screen around their own 45.
but if he's not the best defender,  should he be down as a defender ??
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: WT4E on July 24, 2018, 01:57:47 PM
Quote from: Dire Ear on July 24, 2018, 01:33:15 PM
Cavanagh?

I'm in favour of abandoning the midfield sweeper and I think that means that Cavanagh should go - think hes been programmed and can't be unprogrammed - also feel hes lost some of his appetite. Maybe misses Sean or is an awkward position after Sean's comments!
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: WT4E on July 24, 2018, 02:00:16 PM
Quote from: omagh_gael on July 24, 2018, 01:46:33 PM
Still can't believe some lads would drop McCann. Yeah, he may not be the best defender in the world but he is one of our main strike runners that break through defences and pick up scores or make opportunities for others. He's the sort of player tailor made for the Donegal game as they'll have a tight defensive screen around their own 45.

I think he costs us more than he gives us due to poor defending - I understand he weighs in with a nice point like in the Dublin game but its no good scoring one we need to stop them too! Compare him to Ricey or Philly Jordan!

PS I hate that term.... Strike runner! lol
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: An Watcher on July 24, 2018, 02:03:55 PM
Not the time to be abandoning systems and dropping players.  Donegal on their home patch will be difficult enough.
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: tiempo on July 24, 2018, 02:11:25 PM
Quote from: omagh_gael on July 24, 2018, 01:46:33 PM
Still can't believe some lads would drop McCann. Yeah, he may not be the best defender in the world but he is one of our main strike runners that break through defences and pick up scores or make opportunities for others. He's the sort of player tailor made for the Donegal game as they'll have a tight defensive screen around their own 45.

Strike runner is a nothing term, at national level he's an average wing back, and I mean distinctly average in both defence and attack. We played far better without him in the last few rounds of the league. But he's a Gaelic football athlete as Mickey would say and that matters more these days. Tyrone crossbar challenge the other year Aidan McCrory introduced himself as a running back. Run Forrest run.
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: omagh_gael on July 24, 2018, 02:17:33 PM
I used that term in a tongue in cheek kind of way, btw. However, he's an essential part of Harte's gameplan and I'd eat Brian Dooher wearing a hat if Harte drops him.
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: WT4E on July 24, 2018, 02:28:50 PM
Yeah I agree - I was just saying what i would like to see but realize that Harte won't be abandoning tactics as he's defo not the maverick type alah Jim McGuinness v Dublin 2014.

Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: BennyHarp on July 24, 2018, 02:34:18 PM
Quote from: WT4E on July 24, 2018, 02:28:50 PM
Yeah I agree - I was just saying what i would like to see but realize that Harte won't be abandoning tactics as he's defo not the maverick type alah Jim McGuinness v Dublin 2014.

Having said that, Mickey is not adverse to pulling a few rabbits out of the hat for one off games...McMahons v Twin Towers, Canavan on off on in 2003, Cormac full back v Down. I would not be surprised to see Colm utilised in a very different role if we meet Dublin in an AI final, maybe pushed up to 11 or 14. They have his role sussed but Colm still has a huge role to play as a sweeper against Donegal.
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: tiempo on July 24, 2018, 02:38:47 PM
Quote from: omagh_gael on July 24, 2018, 02:17:33 PM
I used that term in a tongue in cheek kind of way, btw. However, he's an essential part of Harte's gameplan and I'd eat Brian Dooher wearing a hat if Harte drops him.

Thats 2 halves of the problem. Substandard player, substandard system.

Matty Donnelly close to entering the same bracket, he's gone so far back its hard to watch, he doesn't actually have a position now worth speaking of. Just does his own thing which generally amounts to slowing the team down and let the opposition get set for an attack which will be damn near telegraphed in its execution the buildup play is so slow at times.
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: Redhand Santa on July 24, 2018, 03:03:17 PM
Quote from: tiempo on July 24, 2018, 02:38:47 PM
Quote from: omagh_gael on July 24, 2018, 02:17:33 PM
I used that term in a tongue in cheek kind of way, btw. However, he's an essential part of Harte's gameplan and I'd eat Brian Dooher wearing a hat if Harte drops him.

Thats 2 halves of the problem. Substandard player, substandard system.

Matty Donnelly close to entering the same bracket, he's gone so far back its hard to watch, he doesn't actually have a position now worth speaking of. Just does his own thing which generally amounts to slowing the team down and let the opposition get set for an attack which will be damn near telegraphed in its execution the buildup play is so slow at times.

God help 90 per cent of the counties in Ireland if Tyrone are playing substandard players in substandard systems.

Someone should tell the Dubs as they are playing a very similar system. Given the Dubs are one of the best teams of all time you'd have expected a more convincing victory on Saturday from them against a team with substandard players playing in a substandard system.
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: trueblue1234 on July 24, 2018, 03:07:06 PM
Quote from: tiempo on July 24, 2018, 02:38:47 PM
Quote from: omagh_gael on July 24, 2018, 02:17:33 PM
I used that term in a tongue in cheek kind of way, btw. However, he's an essential part of Harte's gameplan and I'd eat Brian Dooher wearing a hat if Harte drops him.

Thats 2 halves of the problem. Substandard player, substandard system.

Matty Donnelly close to entering the same bracket, he's gone so far back its hard to watch, he doesn't actually have a position now worth speaking of. Just does his own thing which generally amounts to slowing the team down and let the opposition get set for an attack which will be damn near telegraphed in its execution the buildup play is so slow at times.

I really struggle to see how anyone has CC as substandard. He's been the heart of the Tyrone team for the last few years and when he packs it in will be a huge loss. His reading of a game is fantastic as is his work rate and physicality. While people might want Tyrone to play a bit more attacking football, lets not throw the baby out with the bathwater.
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: J70 on July 24, 2018, 03:07:27 PM
Eoghan Ban confirmed out for the game.
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: RedHand88 on July 24, 2018, 03:09:57 PM
Quote from: tiempo on July 24, 2018, 02:11:25 PM
Quote from: omagh_gael on July 24, 2018, 01:46:33 PM
Still can't believe some lads would drop McCann. Yeah, he may not be the best defender in the world but he is one of our main strike runners that break through defences and pick up scores or make opportunities for others. He's the sort of player tailor made for the Donegal game as they'll have a tight defensive screen around their own 45.

Strike runner is a nothing term, at national level he's an average wing back, and I mean distinctly average in both defence and attack. We played far better without him in the last few rounds of the league. But he's a Gaelic football athlete as Mickey would say and that matters more these days. Tyrone crossbar challenge the other year Aidan McCrory introduced himself as a running back. Run Forrest run.

McCann regularly puts in a hard shift and is never found wanting. Fantastic at breaking through lines of defence and popping up for the odd score.
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: Fuzzman on July 24, 2018, 04:09:38 PM
What's the story lads with young Mulgrew? Is he out for the season?

This looks to be Tyrone's make or break match and its hard to know where we stand.
Last year we hammered them 1.21 to 1.12 in Clones and they had a full team with both McBrearty and Murphy being contained quite well only scoring 3 from play between them.
Of course we know its a different story in Ballybofey but I think this Tyrone team have showed the last two years that they no longer fear Donegal and have got over the mental block that Donegal had their number.
The Dubs I've talked to certainly rate Tyrone better than Donegal this year despite but still lacking a top quality forward.

Tyrone's last 15 mins against the Dubs certainly gives the team a great boost of self belief as that's the stage of the game the Dubs usually blow teams away but they were hanging on by a thread and were very glad to hear the final whistle.

Some of the Tyrone squad and fans will feel we owe Declan Bonner a bit of payback for his antics in the minor match a few years back and there certainly seems to be a lot of bad feeling between the two teams and sets of fans in recent years. Both teams will feel that the winner of this avoid Dublin in the semi and have a good chance of making it through to an AI final. Of course, Kerry, Galway and Monaghan might have a lot to say about that.

There has been a good few changes in the panel or starting team since these 2017 teams

Tyrone: N Morgan (0-01, '45); A McCrory, R McNamee, P Hampsey (0-02); T McCann (1-01), C McCarron, P Harte (0-02); C Cavanagh, C McCann; K McGeary (0-03), N Sludden (0-04), D Mulgrew (0-01); M Bradley (0-02), S Cavanagh (0-1, f), M Donnelly (0-02).

Subs: D McCurry for Bradley (44 BC), R Brennan for Mulgrew (46), D McClure (0-01) for C McCann (50), R O'Neill (0-01) for S Cavanagh (56), C McShane for McGeary (56), J McMahon for Harte (70)

Donegal: MA McGinley; P McGrath, N McGee, EB Gallagher; R McHugh, F McGlynn, E Doherty; J McGee, C Thompson; M Carroll (1-0), M Reilly (0-01), J Brennan; P McBrearty (0-06, 4F), M Murphy (0-03, 2 '45), E McHugh..

Subs: K Lacey for J McGee (31), M McElhinney for McGlynn (h-t), H McFadden (0-01) for Brennan (h-t), C Mulligan for Thompson (38). K Gillespie for Doherty (46), M Langan (0-01) for E McHugh (59)

Referee: D Gough (Meath).

Is Neil McGee totally fit?

http://www.the42.ie/tyrone-donegal-score-updates-3450526-Jun2017/
https://www.rte.ie/sport/gaa/2017/0618/883661-tyrone-v-donegal/
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: J70 on July 24, 2018, 05:30:44 PM
Well if the Micheal Carroll issue is going to be dragged up again, I'm sure Declan won't be found wanting and will have plenty to say in his own defense, as he did at the time. It's hard to prove sledging allegations either way, in any circumstance. I would think the best thing would be to let sleeping dogs lie. I don't remember much about it last year when Carroll actually played ( he's withdrawn from the Donegal panel for this season).
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: omaghjoe on July 24, 2018, 11:13:13 PM
Mine the days when him and Greg Blaney used to be vying for the title of ugliest footballer?

Throw in contenders like Tony Scullion, Martin O'Connell and I think it was fair to say it was a golden era for ugly footballers
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: southtyronegael on July 25, 2018, 12:00:15 AM
Quote from: omaghjoe on July 24, 2018, 11:13:13 PM
Mine the days when him and Greg Blaney used to be vying for the title of ugliest footballer?

Throw in contenders like Tony Scullion, Martin O'Connell and I think it was fair to say it was a golden era for ugly footballers
they played lovely football though.
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: J70 on July 25, 2018, 12:56:03 AM
From another time, in more ways than one.... https://www.rte.ie/sport/gaa/2016/0714/802426-donegal-v-tyrone-1972/ (https://www.rte.ie/sport/gaa/2016/0714/802426-donegal-v-tyrone-1972/)
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: Aaron Boone on July 25, 2018, 01:22:38 AM
It'll be kicks from 30m line to decide this one, after extra-extra time. The town end will surely favor Donegal.
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: Captain Obvious on July 25, 2018, 01:27:21 AM
Quote from: Fuzzman on July 24, 2018, 04:09:38 PM
What's the story lads with young Mulgrew? Is he out for the season?

This looks to be Tyrone's make or break match and its hard to know where we stand.
Last year we hammered them 1.21 to 1.12 in Clones and they had a full team with both McBrearty and Murphy being contained quite well only scoring 3 from play between them.
Of course we know its a different story in Ballybofey but I think this Tyrone team have showed the last two years that they no longer fear Donegal and have got over the mental block that Donegal had their number.
The Dubs I've talked to certainly rate Tyrone better than Donegal this year despite but still lacking a top quality forward.

Tyrone's last 15 mins against the Dubs certainly gives the team a great boost of self belief as that's the stage of the game the Dubs usually blow teams away but they were hanging on by a thread and were very glad to hear the final whistle.

Some of the Tyrone squad and fans will feel we owe Declan Bonner a bit of payback for his antics in the minor match a few years back and there certainly seems to be a lot of bad feeling between the two teams and sets of fans in recent years. Both teams will feel that the winner of this avoid Dublin in the semi and have a good chance of making it through to an AI final. Of course, Kerry, Galway and Monaghan might have a lot to say about that.

There has been a good few changes in the panel or starting team since these 2017 teams

Tyrone: N Morgan (0-01, '45); A McCrory, R McNamee, P Hampsey (0-02); T McCann (1-01), C McCarron, P Harte (0-02); C Cavanagh, C McCann; K McGeary (0-03), N Sludden (0-04), D Mulgrew (0-01); M Bradley (0-02), S Cavanagh (0-1, f), M Donnelly (0-02).

Subs: D McCurry for Bradley (44 BC), R Brennan for Mulgrew (46), D McClure (0-01) for C McCann (50), R O'Neill (0-01) for S Cavanagh (56), C McShane for McGeary (56), J McMahon for Harte (70)

Donegal: MA McGinley; P McGrath, N McGee, EB Gallagher; R McHugh, F McGlynn, E Doherty; J McGee, C Thompson; M Carroll (1-0), M Reilly (0-01), J Brennan; P McBrearty (0-06, 4F), M Murphy (0-03, 2 '45), E McHugh..

Subs: K Lacey for J McGee (31), M McElhinney for McGlynn (h-t), H McFadden (0-01) for Brennan (h-t), C Mulligan for Thompson (38). K Gillespie for Doherty (46), M Langan (0-01) for E McHugh (59)

Referee: D Gough (Meath).

Is Neil McGee totally fit?

http://www.the42.ie/tyrone-donegal-score-updates-3450526-Jun2017/
https://www.rte.ie/sport/gaa/2017/0618/883661-tyrone-v-donegal/

Are you letting a late Tyrone rally cloud your judgement to how Dublin controlled the majority of that game last weekend? One of the best things about Dublin is they don't do panic and they played their now common keep ball and got the last score of the game to win by 3 points. Donegal lost by 5 points the week before if that game was played in Ballybofey the margin may have been closer.

I don't think I'd be looking back to last year when judging Donegal either. They were hammered by Galway would the same happen this summer? highly unlikely I would think.
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: cadhlancian on July 25, 2018, 04:37:10 AM
Quote from: Aaron Boone on July 25, 2018, 01:22:38 AM
It'll be kicks from 30m line to decide this one, after extra-extra time. The town end will surely favor Donegal.
If it's a draw, Tyrone go through....
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: redhandefender on July 25, 2018, 08:05:18 AM
I think Donegal are completely overrated this year.

Simple fact is Decky Bonner is not a good manager. They have fantastic forwards that will give any body problems no matter where you play them but their main man is gone.

I think mickey will win the battle on the sideline and Tyrone will make history in ballybofey
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: bogball88 on July 25, 2018, 08:28:13 AM
Quote from: Fuzzman on July 24, 2018, 04:09:38 PM
What's the story lads with young Mulgrew? Is he out for the season?

This looks to be Tyrone's make or break match and its hard to know where we stand.
Last year we hammered them 1.21 to 1.12 in Clones and they had a full team with both McBrearty and Murphy being contained quite well only scoring 3 from play between them.
Of course we know its a different story in Ballybofey but I think this Tyrone team have showed the last two years that they no longer fear Donegal and have got over the mental block that Donegal had their number.
The Dubs I've talked to certainly rate Tyrone better than Donegal this year despite but still lacking a top quality forward.

Tyrone's last 15 mins against the Dubs certainly gives the team a great boost of self belief as that's the stage of the game the Dubs usually blow teams away but they were hanging on by a thread and were very glad to hear the final whistle.

Some of the Tyrone squad and fans will feel we owe Declan Bonner a bit of payback for his antics in the minor match a few years back and there certainly seems to be a lot of bad feeling between the two teams and sets of fans in recent years. Both teams will feel that the winner of this avoid Dublin in the semi and have a good chance of making it through to an AI final. Of course, Kerry, Galway and Monaghan might have a lot to say about that.

There has been a good few changes in the panel or starting team since these 2017 teams

Tyrone: N Morgan (0-01, '45); A McCrory, R McNamee, P Hampsey (0-02); T McCann (1-01), C McCarron, P Harte (0-02); C Cavanagh, C McCann; K McGeary (0-03), N Sludden (0-04), D Mulgrew (0-01); M Bradley (0-02), S Cavanagh (0-1, f), M Donnelly (0-02).

Subs: D McCurry for Bradley (44 BC), R Brennan for Mulgrew (46), D McClure (0-01) for C McCann (50), R O'Neill (0-01) for S Cavanagh (56), C McShane for McGeary (56), J McMahon for Harte (70)

Donegal: MA McGinley; P McGrath, N McGee, EB Gallagher; R McHugh, F McGlynn, E Doherty; J McGee, C Thompson; M Carroll (1-0), M Reilly (0-01), J Brennan; P McBrearty (0-06, 4F), M Murphy (0-03, 2 '45), E McHugh..

Subs: K Lacey for J McGee (31), M McElhinney for McGlynn (h-t), H McFadden (0-01) for Brennan (h-t), C Mulligan for Thompson (38). K Gillespie for Doherty (46), M Langan (0-01) for E McHugh (59)

Referee: D Gough (Meath).

Is Neil McGee totally fit?

http://www.the42.ie/tyrone-donegal-score-updates-3450526-Jun2017/
https://www.rte.ie/sport/gaa/2017/0618/883661-tyrone-v-donegal/
Had an operation on his shoulder. Cant see him being fit for any county games this year
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: ONeill on July 25, 2018, 11:25:36 AM
Scenario:

A minute left on the clock plus added time. Tyrone a point down and been awarded a penalty. Knowing a draw secures a semi final place, what does Peter Harte do?
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: Dire Ear on July 25, 2018, 11:29:12 AM
Give it to RON
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: Aristo 60 on July 25, 2018, 11:42:50 AM
Quote from: ONeill on July 25, 2018, 11:25:36 AM
Scenario:

A minute left on the clock plus added time. Tyrone a point down and been awarded a penalty. Knowing a draw secures a semi final place, what does Peter Harte do?

Wait on further instructions from the man above / Sky.

Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: rrhf on July 25, 2018, 12:30:21 PM
Quote from: ONeill on July 25, 2018, 11:25:36 AM
Scenario:

A minute left on the clock plus added time. Tyrone a point down and been awarded a penalty. Knowing a draw secures a semi final place, what does Peter Harte do?
Pete will goal it.
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: RedHand88 on July 25, 2018, 01:25:15 PM
Quote from: ONeill on July 25, 2018, 11:25:36 AM
Scenario:

A minute left on the clock plus added time. Tyrone a point down and been awarded a penalty. Knowing a draw secures a semi final place, what does Peter Harte do?

If he's any bucking wit he'll put it over.
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: Cunny Funt on July 25, 2018, 01:58:25 PM
Quote from: redhandefender on July 25, 2018, 08:05:18 AM
I think Donegal are completely overrated this year.

Simple fact is Decky Bonner is not a good manager. They have fantastic forwards that will give any body problems no matter where you play them but their main man is gone.

I think mickey will win the battle on the sideline and Tyrone will make history in ballybofey
Not convinced about Bonner as manager myself. What is the history Tyrone will make?
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: RedHand88 on July 25, 2018, 03:14:53 PM
Quote from: Cunny Funt on July 25, 2018, 01:58:25 PM
Quote from: redhandefender on July 25, 2018, 08:05:18 AM
I think Donegal are completely overrated this year.

Simple fact is Decky Bonner is not a good manager. They have fantastic forwards that will give any body problems no matter where you play them but their main man is gone.

I think mickey will win the battle on the sideline and Tyrone will make history in ballybofey
Not convinced about Bonner as manager myself. What is the history Tyrone will make?

Winning in Ballybofey.
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: redhandefender on July 25, 2018, 03:17:30 PM
Quote from: Cunny Funt on July 25, 2018, 01:58:25 PM
Quote from: redhandefender on July 25, 2018, 08:05:18 AM
I think Donegal are completely overrated this year.

Simple fact is Decky Bonner is not a good manager. They have fantastic forwards that will give any body problems no matter where you play them but their main man is gone.

I think mickey will win the battle on the sideline and Tyrone will make history in ballybofey
Not convinced about Bonner as manager myself. What is the history Tyrone will make?

I may be incorrect but have Donegal ever been beat in championship football in ballybofey? We certainly have never beta them there, and the AI championship only started in 2003  ;D
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: Jinxy on July 25, 2018, 03:26:46 PM
Quote from: ONeill on July 25, 2018, 11:25:36 AM
Scenario:

A minute left on the clock plus added time. Tyrone a point down and been awarded a penalty. Knowing a draw secures a semi final place, what does Peter Harte do?

Aim for the crossbar.
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: Captain Obvious on July 25, 2018, 03:53:20 PM
Quote from: redhandefender on July 25, 2018, 03:17:30 PM
Quote from: Cunny Funt on July 25, 2018, 01:58:25 PM
Quote from: redhandefender on July 25, 2018, 08:05:18 AM
I think Donegal are completely overrated this year.

Simple fact is Decky Bonner is not a good manager. They have fantastic forwards that will give any body problems no matter where you play them but their main man is gone.

I think mickey will win the battle on the sideline and Tyrone will make history in ballybofey
Not convinced about Bonner as manager myself. What is the history Tyrone will make?

I may be incorrect but have Donegal ever been beat in championship football in ballybofey? We certainly have never beta them there, and the AI championship only started in 2003  ;D

Antrim beat Donegal in Ballybofey in 2009.
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: The Bearded One on July 25, 2018, 03:56:36 PM
well Tyrone are better than Antrim so there you go.
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: J70 on July 25, 2018, 04:44:56 PM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on July 25, 2018, 03:53:20 PM
Quote from: redhandefender on July 25, 2018, 03:17:30 PM
Quote from: Cunny Funt on July 25, 2018, 01:58:25 PM
Quote from: redhandefender on July 25, 2018, 08:05:18 AM
I think Donegal are completely overrated this year.

Simple fact is Decky Bonner is not a good manager. They have fantastic forwards that will give any body problems no matter where you play them but their main man is gone.

I think mickey will win the battle on the sideline and Tyrone will make history in ballybofey
Not convinced about Bonner as manager myself. What is the history Tyrone will make?

I may be incorrect but have Donegal ever been beat in championship football in ballybofey? We certainly have never beta them there, and the AI championship only started in 2003  ;D

Antrim beat Donegal in Ballybofey in 2009.

Derry and Monaghan won there in 2008, Down after extra time in 2010. Fermanagh maybe 2000. Monaghan in 1995. Not sure before that... maybe Down mid-80s.

On Bonner as a manager... not going to waste much time on such opinions, but he is doing just fine by me so far. An senior Ulster title to follow his underage successes with many of the same players and we are getting away from the toothless defensive shite.
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: rrhf on July 25, 2018, 04:49:37 PM
Did Tyrone not beat Donegal in 73. To the point that they wanted to go to Connaught championship. Could history repeat itself. They could join up with Leitrim and sure no one would spot the difference.
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: J70 on July 25, 2018, 05:06:33 PM
Quote from: rrhf on July 25, 2018, 04:49:37 PM
Did Tyrone not beat Donegal in 73. To the point that they wanted to go to Connaught championship. Could history repeat itself. They could join up with Leitrim and sure no one would spot the difference.

I recall reading about controversy from 73. Near riots, on and off the field, with Ballybofey shutting down afterwards!

Good job we stuck around to win a second Ulster in 74, including a win in Omagh.  :)
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: ONeill on July 25, 2018, 05:21:25 PM
We won in Ballybofey in 53 and 73. Lost in 13 and 15. So it's 2-all.
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: omaghjoe on July 25, 2018, 07:06:01 PM
Quote from: J70 on July 25, 2018, 05:06:33 PM
Quote from: rrhf on July 25, 2018, 04:49:37 PM
Did Tyrone not beat Donegal in 73. To the point that they wanted to go to Connaught championship. Could history repeat itself. They could join up with Leitrim and sure no one would spot the difference.

I recall reading about controversy from 73. Near riots, on and off the field, with Ballybofey shutting down afterwards!

Good job we stuck around to win a second Ulster in 74, including a win in Omagh.  :)

:) :)
The battle of Ballybofey eh I never heard about that before.
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: Fuzzman on July 26, 2018, 10:36:49 AM
Would be interesting if we could get ourselves organised enough to bring huge numbers down to Ballybofey the way the Dubs did to Omagh. I was guilty myself the last day of not bringing my big flag.

Does anyone remember the year we brought the red cards to Croker? Think it was on the BBC news too.

Anyone know how early the Dubs were in to get the whole area behind the goals last Sat? Is that all preplanned with fans or does it just happen?
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: Tyrone Dreamer on July 26, 2018, 10:50:04 AM
We'll bring a decent crowd but it won't be huge. We have too many "fans" spoilt by the success of the 2000's who would rather sit at home and give out to anyone that will listen about the bad manager we have rather than go out and actually give the team a bit of support. They'll be the first one's jumping on the bandwagon if there is a bit of success too.
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: trailer on July 26, 2018, 11:16:44 AM
Surely the west Tyrone fans will travel in huge numbers?
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: J70 on July 26, 2018, 11:44:33 AM
Quote from: trailer on July 26, 2018, 11:16:44 AM
Surely the west Tyrone fans will travel in huge numbers?

You would think. They're closer to Ballybofey than much of Donegal.
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: RedHand88 on July 26, 2018, 12:53:05 PM
Quote from: Tyrone Dreamer on July 26, 2018, 10:50:04 AM
We'll bring a decent crowd but it won't be huge. We have too many "fans" spoilt by the success of the 2000's who would rather sit at home and give out to anyone that will listen about the bad manager we have rather than go out and actually give the team a bit of support. They'll be the first one's jumping on the bandwagon if there is a bit of success too.

I agree wholeheartedly with this. Younger bucks grew up knowing nothing but success and it's become expected now. There's just so much moaning now because we aren't winning all Ireland's every other year. They forget it took a hundred years to get the first!
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: RedHand88 on July 26, 2018, 12:55:37 PM
Quote from: Fuzzman on July 26, 2018, 10:36:49 AM
Would be interesting if we could get ourselves organised enough to bring huge numbers down to Ballybofey the way the Dubs did to Omagh. I was guilty myself the last day of not bringing my big flag.

Does anyone remember the year we brought the red cards to Croker? Think it was on the BBC news too.

Anyone know how early the Dubs were in to get the whole area behind the goals last Sat? Is that all preplanned with fans or does it just happen?

I was in the ground from about half 5. It was still fairly empty at that end then, few of them about. By 6 it was obvious the hill 16 crowd would set up camp there, same as the league.
I would have loved to have set up camp in the middle of it to disrupt it only I'd the missus and a child wiith me.
Fair play to the 2 Tyrone fans who did stand in the middle of it though.
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: Fuzzman on July 26, 2018, 02:24:43 PM
I heard them chatting about setting up camp at that end down here all week.
I wonder had they not have been there in such large numbers would RoN not have missed that free?

I'd be all on for getting a much better organised supporter club going where we have our own forum and we travel to matches in groups and taking over sections of the stand.
Can you imagine us in this years AI final with a big part of the Hill all in red and white. Get in early and take their usual spots. Feck this "Hill16 is Dublin ONLY" shite song.

Maybe we could start (or maybe end)with Ballybofey next Sunday. Get in early and cordon off a section  ;)

Anyway, back to the match.
You'd imagine Sludden, Mattie and Harte will be determined to put in a big performance for this game.
Some would argue this is quite a young inexperienced Donegal team with a few exceptions and this game could be a year to early for many of them.
We hammered them last year and they had McBrearty then too.
I would say though that the home venue will mean more to Donegal this time than to Tyrone last weekend.
I don't wanna set the man up for a big performance but in recent years Murphy has been nullified quite a lot by Tyrone one way or another.
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: omaghjoe on July 26, 2018, 03:35:51 PM
Quote from: J70 on July 26, 2018, 11:44:33 AM
Quote from: trailer on July 26, 2018, 11:16:44 AM
Surely the west Tyrone fans will travel in huge numbers?

You would think. They're closer to Ballybofey than much of Donegal.

Maybe if there a cricket curtain raiser
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: Rois on July 26, 2018, 04:15:02 PM
Quote from: omaghjoe on July 26, 2018, 03:35:51 PM
Quote from: J70 on July 26, 2018, 11:44:33 AM
Quote from: trailer on July 26, 2018, 11:16:44 AM
Surely the west Tyrone fans will travel in huge numbers?

You would think. They're closer to Ballybofey than much of Donegal.

Maybe if there a cricket curtain raiser
Ahem - plenty of us will be there.

I do admit to being in Ballybofey much more often than Omagh when growing up.

Most West Tyronies will already be in Donegal in their caravans in Rossnowlagh or Bundoran at this time of year anyway  ;D
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: Fuzzman on July 27, 2018, 03:57:22 PM
Id like to see Bradley starting this one. The Dubs I talked to since the game said they thought he was very lively and were relieved he didn't start. I think we've still not saw the best of him yet.
I really hope LB also makes his comeback soon. He would be a nice man to have should we make it to the semifinal

What's people's thoughts on us sending in a few more high balls to Richie?
I was very disappointed we didn't mix it up more re the ball into our FF line.
I think there was a bit of panic one time when a big high ball was kicked in.

I must say I've a good feeling about this game. I would say we're more likely to beat them at their home in early August than we would be in early June or May.
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: Therealdonald on July 27, 2018, 04:21:08 PM
Quote from: Fuzzman on July 27, 2018, 03:57:22 PM
Id like to see Bradley starting this one. The Dubs I talked to since the game said they thought he was very lively and were relieved he didn't start. I think we've still not saw the best of him yet.
I really hope LB also makes his comeback soon. He would be a nice man to have should we make it to the semifinal

What's people's thoughts on us sending in a few more high balls to Richie?
I was very disappointed we didn't mix it up more re the ball into our FF line.
I think there was a bit of panic one time when a big high ball was kicked in.

I must say I've a good feeling about this game. I would say we're more likely to beat them at their home in early August than we would be in early June or May.

Think people are getting carried away with Bradley's introduction last week. The first 3 balls that came in Cooper picked them and left Bradley like a child on his bum. He's too small. Lively but too small to make a massive impact. Also be a massive ask to introduce LB straight into this big of a game.

I'd be hoping to see more support for our forwards/ line breakers when there's a turnover, we went last week too much in dribs and drabs.
There'd be a bit of optimism too in Donegal about taking Sludden out of the game like last week. Murchan rendered him anonymous which doesn't bode well for the Donegal game if they send McGrath to follow him.

I think the winning and losing of this game will genuinely be in Murphy. If whoever is picking him up can't contain him with the help of Burns and Cavanagh then we are in trouble, though I wouldn't be surprised to see him play around the middle for the majority of the game.

Sitting down last night and trying to think objectively about if I was Donegal, how I'd go about beating Tyrone and the first thing came to my head would be to make McCann and Burns defend 1 on 1 where there's question marks imo. Just a thought. Donegal possibly are being talked up a bit too much because of the Roscommon game, add in the effect of losing McBrearty and its hard to see if that if Murphy isn't on top form where the inspiration/scores will come from.

Just a few thoughts. Feel free to analyse and call me stupid. It makes a change to talk about football as opposed to trying to annoy Syferus.
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: Fuzzman on July 27, 2018, 04:26:04 PM
Yes Therealdonald, I am amazed how many of these threads end up getting nonsense chat about silly issues.

I just think Donegal are trying too hard to get away from their defensive style and so are leaving themselves open a lot more.
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: Blowitupref on July 27, 2018, 04:52:49 PM
I think Murphy more than Donegal is getting talked up too much based on that Roscommon game. Is it now ignored that Murphy was held to one score from play against both Fermanagh and Derry this summer? Best part of this Donegal team is their spread of different scorers, 3 of their last 4 games was into double figures.

Don't think Donegal are trying to get away from their defensive style its more the individual players are not as good as they were to carry out the defensive style they want to play and the loss of Eoghan Ban Gallagher will be huge.  One final bit this game will be played in August so what chance do Donegal have against Tyrone at their peak?

Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: J70 on July 27, 2018, 05:22:34 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on July 27, 2018, 04:52:49 PM
I think Murphy more than Donegal is getting talked up too much based on that Roscommon game. Is it now ignored that Murphy was held to one score from play against both Fermanagh and Derry this summer? Best part of this Donegal team is their spread of different scorers, 3 of their last 4 games was into double figures.

Don't think Donegal are trying to get away from their defensive style its more the individual players are not as good as they were to carry out the defensive style they want to play and the loss of Eoghan Ban Gallagher will be huge.  One final bit this game will be played in August so what chance do Donegal have against Tyrone at their peak?

Have you watched Donegal this year?
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: Blowitupref on July 27, 2018, 05:35:43 PM
Quote from: J70 on July 27, 2018, 05:22:34 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on July 27, 2018, 04:52:49 PM
I think Murphy more than Donegal is getting talked up too much based on that Roscommon game. Is it now ignored that Murphy was held to one score from play against both Fermanagh and Derry this summer? Best part of this Donegal team is their spread of different scorers, 3 of their last 4 games was into double figures.

Don't think Donegal are trying to get away from their defensive style its more the individual players are not as good as they were to carry out the defensive style they want to play and the loss of Eoghan Ban Gallagher will be huge.  One final bit this game will be played in August so what chance do Donegal have against Tyrone at their peak?

Have you watched Donegal this year?
Many times.
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: dlgael on July 27, 2018, 05:37:24 PM
Tough to call this game.
Paddy is a big loss but Odhran can do OK in his absence. Tyrone maybe a year further down the track than Donegal but our forwards are still (even without Paddy McBrearty) a good bit better than the Tyrone hybrid half back half forward animal. Ref McHugh, McNiallas, Murphy.
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: dlgael on July 27, 2018, 05:39:15 PM
Sludden a new venture. We need to do a Merchan job on him as it was shown he can be taken out of a game with close attention.
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: J70 on July 27, 2018, 05:43:43 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on July 27, 2018, 05:35:43 PM
Quote from: J70 on July 27, 2018, 05:22:34 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on July 27, 2018, 04:52:49 PM
I think Murphy more than Donegal is getting talked up too much based on that Roscommon game. Is it now ignored that Murphy was held to one score from play against both Fermanagh and Derry this summer? Best part of this Donegal team is their spread of different scorers, 3 of their last 4 games was into double figures.

Don't think Donegal are trying to get away from their defensive style its more the individual players are not as good as they were to carry out the defensive style they want to play and the loss of Eoghan Ban Gallagher will be huge.  One final bit this game will be played in August so what chance do Donegal have against Tyrone at their peak?

Have you watched Donegal this year?
Many times.

Well then you should know that Murphy has generally played out the field as playmaker and played extremely well, while Donegal's transition from ultra-defensive is absolutely tactical and intentional, starting with the press up on the opposition kick out.

On Eoghan Ban, I'm much less concerned about his loss than McBrearty. We've plenty of fast, ball carriers out of defense, even if they're not going quite the same level. McBrearty is irreplaceable, especially as Murphy will be needed out the field again against Tyrone.

Regardless, that's where we are. I see a Tyrone win too.
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: Therealdonald on July 27, 2018, 05:44:36 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on July 27, 2018, 04:52:49 PM
I think Murphy more than Donegal is getting talked up too much based on that Roscommon game. Is it now ignored that Murphy was held to one score from play against both Fermanagh and Derry this summer? Best part of this Donegal team is their spread of different scorers, 3 of their last 4 games was into double figures.

Don't think Donegal are trying to get away from their defensive style its more the individual players are not as good as they were to carry out the defensive style they want to play and the loss of Eoghan Ban Gallagher will be huge.  One final bit this game will be played in August so what chance do Donegal have against Tyrone at their peak?

I understand the point about Murphy, but sometimes he takes himself out of the game I feel purposely, to leave space for others. He's the most unselfish player in Ireland that way. If Donegal win and Murphy kicks zero points, doesn't bother him. If Bonner expects the Tyrone defence can be got at, I'd expect Murphy to play out round the middle.
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: Blowitupref on July 27, 2018, 07:01:40 PM
Quote from: J70 on July 27, 2018, 05:43:43 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on July 27, 2018, 05:35:43 PM
Quote from: J70 on July 27, 2018, 05:22:34 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on July 27, 2018, 04:52:49 PM
I think Murphy more than Donegal is getting talked up too much based on that Roscommon game. Is it now ignored that Murphy was held to one score from play against both Fermanagh and Derry this summer? Best part of this Donegal team is their spread of different scorers, 3 of their last 4 games was into double figures.

Don't think Donegal are trying to get away from their defensive style its more the individual players are not as good as they were to carry out the defensive style they want to play and the loss of Eoghan Ban Gallagher will be huge.  One final bit this game will be played in August so what chance do Donegal have against Tyrone at their peak?

Have you watched Donegal this year?
Many times.

Well then you should know that Murphy has generally played out the field as playmaker and played extremely well, while Donegal's transition from ultra-defensive is absolutely tactical and intentional, starting with the press up on the opposition kick out.

On Eoghan Ban, I'm much less concerned about his loss than McBrearty. We've plenty of fast, ball carriers out of defense, even if they're not going quite the same level. McBrearty is irreplaceable, especially as Murphy will be needed out the field again against Tyrone.

Regardless, that's where we are. I see a Tyrone win too.

What year are you referring back to on the ultra defensive style because Donegal was a shambles in defence last summer especially against Galway and Tyrone.

From what i seen Murphy has been given the role to roam and he got much joy off Roscommon because they gave him the time and room to cause damage that won't happen against Tyrone. All the top teams look to press up on the opposition kick outs nowadays but again how much joy you get depends on the strength of the opposition.

Holding Down to 13 scores,Fermanagh to 12, Dublin to 17 and Roscommon to 13 didn't come about by abandoning their defensive style and i wouldn't surprised if this game v Tyrone isn't a similar contest to the Mayo v Donegal round 7 league game and in a low scoring contest the loss of McBrearty will be felt greatly.
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: Over the Bar on July 29, 2018, 06:34:36 PM
Are kids free entry next week?
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: Rois on July 29, 2018, 08:05:49 PM
Quote from: Over the Bar on July 29, 2018, 06:34:36 PM
Are kids free entry next week?
€5
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: omagh_gael on July 30, 2018, 01:35:02 PM
What's the capacity of the ground? I wonder will it sell out. Couldn't order tickets through the club as I'll not know if I can go until Thursday or Friday. Wonder what the chances of getting a ticket online will be around Friday? No tickets currently available.
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: Fuzzman on July 30, 2018, 01:50:04 PM
Loads of free tickets available outside Healy park for the last game.
I always find that if you and stand around you'll get them, especially last minute

I never pay in to Croker any more  ;D
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on July 30, 2018, 01:59:30 PM
Donegal v Tyrone on RTE 1
Clare v Galway on RTE 2
Dublin v Roscommon on RTE News Now
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: omagh_gael on July 30, 2018, 05:13:20 PM
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/gaelic-games/45007830

There you are, she's a sell out. It'll be a case of having to land up in Ballybofey and take my chances.
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: Rossfan on July 30, 2018, 05:32:13 PM
Capacity reduced from 18K to 16,500 because it's an All ticket game.
Anyone know why that's done?
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: Rois on July 30, 2018, 05:41:43 PM
Quote from: omagh_gael on July 30, 2018, 05:13:20 PM
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/gaelic-games/45007830

There you are, she's a sell out. It'll be a case of having to land up in Ballybofey and take my chances.
I ended up with two spare stand tickets for Healy Park the other week and couldn't give them away.  A harsh lesson learned in getting tickets for people who are only half-interested...
So no doubt there will be others like me on Sunday. 
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: Jayop on July 30, 2018, 06:02:17 PM
Joe McQuillen on the whistle for this one.
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: Therealdonald on July 30, 2018, 06:17:32 PM
There is tickets available from the clubs?
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: omagh_gael on July 30, 2018, 09:51:58 PM
Just received this from the club...

Message from Tyrone County Board:
A Chara

I wish to advise that we are no longer accepting orders / requests for tickets for this game, on Sunday in Ballybofey.

At present, we are informed by Croke Park that all tickets for the game are sold out, and that no further tickets will be coming available.

The orders / requests that have been received from Clubs, as of now, are more than twice the number of tickets that have been allocated to Tyrone. Consequently, major reductions will be made to the orders / requests that have been submitted, at close of business this evening.

As per our initial email on the tickets for this game we will be allocating four stand tickets to each Club.

I would strongly recommend that you advise your members that you will not be in a position to meet their requests, either in full, or at all.

Because of this issue, it is unlikely that tickets will be available for collection on Wednesday, as previously notified. A new collection time and date will be notified as early as possible.

Thank you for your patience and understanding at this time.
 
Le gach dea-ghuí

Damhnaic Mac Eochaidh

Rúnaí
Coiste Chontae Thír Eoghain

Looks like there'll be some disappointed fans.
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: RedHand88 on July 30, 2018, 10:23:21 PM
That's mad. Only 4 stand tickets per club? How many does the stand hold? There'll be some rows in clubhouses this week.
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: trileacman on July 30, 2018, 11:00:44 PM
Quote from: RedHand88 on July 30, 2018, 10:23:21 PM
That's mad. Only 4 stand tickets per club? How many does the stand hold? There'll be some rows in clubhouses this week.

I very much doubt Tyrone are only getting 150 odd tickets.
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: omagh_gael on July 30, 2018, 11:14:49 PM
2000+ season ticket holders plus any corporate tickets would leave that stand well full. What's its capacity? Pretty small set up from memory. There were only a handful of seating tickets for each club v Dublin too.

Saw this on boards.ie, there's a conspiracy in the air...

Ref in 2011 Ulster Semi Final - Joe
Ref in 2013 Ulster Championship Quarter Final - Joe
Ref in 2015 Ulster Championship Quarter Final - Joe

All Donegal wins over Throne.

Dublin Donegal Joe

Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: redhandefender on July 30, 2018, 11:51:31 PM
Ballybofey is a kip of a ground
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: LeoMc on July 31, 2018, 08:06:03 AM
Better sold out / packed out provincial grounds with people scrambling or tickets than the games being played in a half empty croke park.
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: redhandefender on July 31, 2018, 09:35:13 AM
I think its a bit stupid for a game like this in a tiny ground that all other counties in ulster can avail of some tickets as well. You'll have people from Fermanagh and cavan etc there
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: blewuporstuffed on July 31, 2018, 09:41:14 AM
Quote from: LeoMc on July 31, 2018, 08:06:03 AM
Better sold out / packed out provincial grounds with people scrambling or tickets than the games being played in a half empty croke park.
I agree.
Hopefully the super 8s will lead to a bit of money spent around the county developing provincial and county grounds rather than pouring it all towards dublin
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: trueblue1234 on July 31, 2018, 10:30:22 AM
The problem here is general sale tickets going out before all club requests are met. Clubs low down on priorities again. 
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: inthrough on July 31, 2018, 10:35:13 AM
Quote from: redhandefender on July 30, 2018, 11:51:31 PM
Ballybofey is a kip of a ground
Unlike the majestic theatre that is Healy Park ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: From the Bunker on July 31, 2018, 10:57:42 AM
Quote from: blewuporstuffed on July 31, 2018, 09:41:14 AM
Quote from: LeoMc on July 31, 2018, 08:06:03 AM
Better sold out / packed out provincial grounds with people scrambling or tickets than the games being played in a half empty croke park.
I agree.
Hopefully the super 8s will lead to a bit of money spent around the county developing provincial and county grounds rather than pouring it all towards dublin

Oh the innocence!  ;D
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: omagh_gael on July 31, 2018, 11:01:48 AM
Quote from: trueblue1234 on July 31, 2018, 10:30:22 AM
The problem here is general sale tickets going out before all club requests are met. Clubs low down on priorities again.

Fully agree. That's a total joke.
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: Ty4Sam on July 31, 2018, 11:16:44 AM
Total shambles by the GAA again! Any Tom, Dick or Harry can walk into a SuperValu store and buy as many tickets as they want but there's a chance a hard working GAA club member can't?? Why should anyone become a member of a GAA club? What are the benefits? Getting tickets was one but that's gone now.
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: Rossfan on July 31, 2018, 11:18:35 AM
Weren't too many Tyrones in Portlaoise or Croke Park.
Hopefully those ones will be sorted out anyway.

PS what's to stop club members walking into SuperValu?
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: RedHand88 on July 31, 2018, 11:45:56 AM
Quote from: Rossfan on July 31, 2018, 11:18:35 AM
Weren't too many Tyrones in Portlaoise or Croke Park.
Hopefully those ones will be sorted out anyway.

PS what's to stop club members walking into SuperValu?

Too late for that at this stage, theyre sold out. Alot of people go through the club because of loyalty, getting in with a shout for a ticket in a potential final etc.  There will be alot of people who could have bought through supervalu but didnt because theyd wait for one thorugh the aul club.
Really what should happen is the Supervalu ones should be used to sell off whats left after club requests.
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: J70 on July 31, 2018, 12:13:14 PM
Quote from: omagh_gael on July 30, 2018, 11:14:49 PM
2000+ season ticket holders plus any corporate tickets would leave that stand well full. What's its capacity? Pretty small set up from memory. There were only a handful of seating tickets for each club v Dublin too.

Saw this on boards.ie, there's a conspiracy in the air...

Ref in 2011 Ulster Semi Final - Joe
Ref in 2013 Ulster Championship Quarter Final - Joe
Ref in 2015 Ulster Championship Quarter Final - Joe

All Donegal wins over Throne.

Dublin Donegal Joe

Brendan Devenney knew what he was doing when he pushed Joe around in that 2004 qualifier against Fermanagh. The six month ban was worth it for the long term benefit his intimidatory tactics have reaped for Donegal!  ;)
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: J70 on July 31, 2018, 12:18:04 PM
Quote from: redhandefender on July 31, 2018, 09:35:13 AM
I think its a bit stupid for a game like this in a tiny ground that all other counties in ulster can avail of some tickets as well. You'll have people from Fermanagh and cavan etc there

I take it you were pushing for Tyrone to give up home advantage for the Dubs game and move the match to Clones to accommodate all the Cavan and Fermanagh supporters who were interested THAT day?

And in case you'd forgotten, Donegal have already played two away games.

Finally, we've had major whinging and crying for both Tyrone and Armagh supporters in the past when they had to come to Ballybofey, only for the games to fall well short of selling out.
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: inthrough on July 31, 2018, 12:50:18 PM
Quote from: J70 on July 31, 2018, 12:18:04 PM
Quote from: redhandefender on July 31, 2018, 09:35:13 AM
I think its a bit stupid for a game like this in a tiny ground that all other counties in ulster can avail of some tickets as well. You'll have people from Fermanagh and cavan etc there

I take it you were pushing for Tyrone to give up home advantage for the Dubs game and move the match to Clones to accommodate all the Cavan and Fermanagh supporters who were interested THAT day?

And in case you'd forgotten, Donegal have already played two away games.

Finally, we've had major whinging and crying for both Tyrone and Armagh supporters in the past when they had to come to Ballybofey, only for the games to fall well short of selling out.
Agreed, the last time Tyrone came to Ballybofey they were whinging about their ticket allocation & suggesting the game be moved to Clones.  In the end they returned 1,000 tickets!
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: trailer on July 31, 2018, 01:07:59 PM
Quote from: inthrough on July 31, 2018, 12:50:18 PM
Quote from: J70 on July 31, 2018, 12:18:04 PM
Quote from: redhandefender on July 31, 2018, 09:35:13 AM
I think its a bit stupid for a game like this in a tiny ground that all other counties in ulster can avail of some tickets as well. You'll have people from Fermanagh and cavan etc there

I take it you were pushing for Tyrone to give up home advantage for the Dubs game and move the match to Clones to accommodate all the Cavan and Fermanagh supporters who were interested THAT day?

And in case you'd forgotten, Donegal have already played two away games.

Finally, we've had major whinging and crying for both Tyrone and Armagh supporters in the past when they had to come to Ballybofey, only for the games to fall well short of selling out.
Agreed, the last time Tyrone came to Ballybofey they were whinging about their ticket allocation & suggesting the game be moved to Clones.  In the end they returned 1,000 tickets!

Yeah but Ballybofey is a shit hole.
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: Jayop on July 31, 2018, 02:47:17 PM
Ballybofey is a kip but there's no way this game should be anywhere but donegal.
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: redhandefender on July 31, 2018, 02:52:04 PM
Quote from: J70 on July 31, 2018, 12:18:04 PM
Quote from: redhandefender on July 31, 2018, 09:35:13 AM
I think its a bit stupid for a game like this in a tiny ground that all other counties in ulster can avail of some tickets as well. You'll have people from Fermanagh and cavan etc there

I take it you were pushing for Tyrone to give up home advantage for the Dubs game and move the match to Clones to accommodate all the Cavan and Fermanagh supporters who were interested THAT day?

And in case you'd forgotten, Donegal have already played two away games.

Finally, we've had major whinging and crying for both Tyrone and Armagh supporters in the past when they had to come to Ballybofey, only for the games to fall well short of selling out.

What are you talking about you clown I never said it should be moved! I'm saying the tickets should be allocated to the 2 counties competing and in particular their club members. I know Fermanagh and cavan people who have tickets for this obtained through their county board!

Club members should have been catered for first and before general sale.

But, Ballybofey is a kip! Omagh has problems with flooding but is a good ground!
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: redhandefender on July 31, 2018, 02:53:49 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on July 31, 2018, 11:18:35 AM
Weren't too many Tyrones in Portlaoise or Croke Park.
Hopefully those ones will be sorted out anyway.

PS what's to stop club members walking into SuperValu?

Weren't too many in your home ground last week, threw the towel in early doors for god sake.

Club members shouldn't have to walk in to Supervalu they keep the GAA going.
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: greatpoint on July 31, 2018, 03:04:29 PM
Quote from: trailer on July 31, 2018, 01:07:59 PM
Quote from: inthrough on July 31, 2018, 12:50:18 PM
Quote from: J70 on July 31, 2018, 12:18:04 PM
Quote from: redhandefender on July 31, 2018, 09:35:13 AM
I think its a bit stupid for a game like this in a tiny ground that all other counties in ulster can avail of some tickets as well. You'll have people from Fermanagh and cavan etc there

I take it you were pushing for Tyrone to give up home advantage for the Dubs game and move the match to Clones to accommodate all the Cavan and Fermanagh supporters who were interested THAT day?

And in case you'd forgotten, Donegal have already played two away games.

Finally, we've had major whinging and crying for both Tyrone and Armagh supporters in the past when they had to come to Ballybofey, only for the games to fall well short of selling out.
Agreed, the last time Tyrone came to Ballybofey they were whinging about their ticket allocation & suggesting the game be moved to Clones.  In the end they returned 1,000 tickets!

Yeah but Ballybofey is a shit hole.

If that's the case then can ye stop crying about the tickets?
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: omaghjoe on July 31, 2018, 03:37:12 PM
Quote from: ONeill on July 25, 2018, 11:25:36 AM
Scenario:

A minute left on the clock plus added time. Tyrone a point down and been awarded a penalty. Knowing a draw secures a semi final place, what does Peter Harte do?

Is that you Philly..?

https://www.rte.ie/sport/gaa/2018/0731/982232-philip-jordan-super8s/
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: trailer on July 31, 2018, 03:46:34 PM
Quote from: Jayop on July 31, 2018, 02:47:17 PM
Ballybofey is a kip but there's no way this game should be anywhere but donegal.

100% correct. My post is very tongue n cheek.
Maybe with the likes of more home games due to the Super 8s and qualifiers etc a lot of county grounds might get an upgrade.
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: inthrough on July 31, 2018, 04:28:37 PM
Quote from: redhandefender on July 31, 2018, 02:52:04 PM
Quote from: J70 on July 31, 2018, 12:18:04 PM
Quote from: redhandefender on July 31, 2018, 09:35:13 AM
I think its a bit stupid for a game like this in a tiny ground that all other counties in ulster can avail of some tickets as well. You'll have people from Fermanagh and cavan etc there

I take it you were pushing for Tyrone to give up home advantage for the Dubs game and move the match to Clones to accommodate all the Cavan and Fermanagh supporters who were interested THAT day?

And in case you'd forgotten, Donegal have already played two away games.

Finally, we've had major whinging and crying for both Tyrone and Armagh supporters in the past when they had to come to Ballybofey, only for the games to fall well short of selling out.

What are you talking about you clown I never said it should be moved! I'm saying the tickets should be allocated to the 2 counties competing and in particular their club members. I know Fermanagh and cavan people who have tickets for this obtained through their county board!

Club members should have been catered for first and before general sale.

But, Ballybofey is a kip! Omagh has problems with flooding but is a good ground!
Omagh is great if looking at pools of standing water is your fetish. Nothing much else to recommend it over Ballybofey either.
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: redhandefender on July 31, 2018, 04:33:35 PM
Quote from: inthrough on July 31, 2018, 04:28:37 PM
Quote from: redhandefender on July 31, 2018, 02:52:04 PM
Quote from: J70 on July 31, 2018, 12:18:04 PM
Quote from: redhandefender on July 31, 2018, 09:35:13 AM
I think its a bit stupid for a game like this in a tiny ground that all other counties in ulster can avail of some tickets as well. You'll have people from Fermanagh and cavan etc there

I take it you were pushing for Tyrone to give up home advantage for the Dubs game and move the match to Clones to accommodate all the Cavan and Fermanagh supporters who were interested THAT day?

And in case you'd forgotten, Donegal have already played two away games.

Finally, we've had major whinging and crying for both Tyrone and Armagh supporters in the past when they had to come to Ballybofey, only for the games to fall well short of selling out.

What are you talking about you clown I never said it should be moved! I'm saying the tickets should be allocated to the 2 counties competing and in particular their club members. I know Fermanagh and cavan people who have tickets for this obtained through their county board!

Club members should have been catered for first and before general sale.

But, Ballybofey is a kip! Omagh has problems with flooding but is a good ground!
Omagh is great if looking at pools of standing water is your fetish. Nothing much else to recommend it over Ballybofey either.

Didn't see any pools 2 weeks ago. No pools in ballybofey because as a bog it just soaks it up. All the facilities, stand, terrace everything in ballybofey is falling apart and they don't seem to be able to cut the grass for some reason, ever!
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: J70 on July 31, 2018, 05:10:56 PM
Quote from: redhandefender on July 31, 2018, 02:52:04 PM
Quote from: J70 on July 31, 2018, 12:18:04 PM
Quote from: redhandefender on July 31, 2018, 09:35:13 AM
I think its a bit stupid for a game like this in a tiny ground that all other counties in ulster can avail of some tickets as well. You'll have people from Fermanagh and cavan etc there

I take it you were pushing for Tyrone to give up home advantage for the Dubs game and move the match to Clones to accommodate all the Cavan and Fermanagh supporters who were interested THAT day?

And in case you'd forgotten, Donegal have already played two away games.

Finally, we've had major whinging and crying for both Tyrone and Armagh supporters in the past when they had to come to Ballybofey, only for the games to fall well short of selling out.

What are you talking about you clown I never said it should be moved! I'm saying the tickets should be allocated to the 2 counties competing and in particular their club members. I know Fermanagh and cavan people who have tickets for this obtained through their county board!

Club members should have been catered for first and before general sale.

But, Ballybofey is a kip! Omagh has problems with flooding but is a good ground!

1. Calm the f**k down.
2. I misunderstood your post. My apologies for that. Your actual point is valid.
3. I've never had issues myself with Ballybofey (I take it you've never "enjoyed" Ballyshannon? :p), but each to their own.
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: omagh_gael on July 31, 2018, 05:24:17 PM
What's the likely Donegal team?
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: omaghjoe on July 31, 2018, 05:28:57 PM
Quote from: J70 on July 31, 2018, 05:10:56 PM
Quote from: redhandefender on July 31, 2018, 02:52:04 PM
Quote from: J70 on July 31, 2018, 12:18:04 PM
Quote from: redhandefender on July 31, 2018, 09:35:13 AM
I think its a bit stupid for a game like this in a tiny ground that all other counties in ulster can avail of some tickets as well. You'll have people from Fermanagh and cavan etc there

I take it you were pushing for Tyrone to give up home advantage for the Dubs game and move the match to Clones to accommodate all the Cavan and Fermanagh supporters who were interested THAT day?

And in case you'd forgotten, Donegal have already played two away games.

Finally, we've had major whinging and crying for both Tyrone and Armagh supporters in the past when they had to come to Ballybofey, only for the games to fall well short of selling out.

What are you talking about you clown I never said it should be moved! I'm saying the tickets should be allocated to the 2 counties competing and in particular their club members. I know Fermanagh and cavan people who have tickets for this obtained through their county board!

Club members should have been catered for first and before general sale.

But, Ballybofey is a kip! Omagh has problems with flooding but is a good ground!

1. Calm the f**k down.
2. I misunderstood your post. My apologies for that. Your actual point is valid.
3. I've never had issues myself with Ballybofey (I take it you've never "enjoyed" Ballyshannon? :p), but each to their own.

Why would we calm down when everytime we go to that shithole we get shafted a the gate, the ground, the pitch and the ref
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: J70 on July 31, 2018, 05:53:02 PM
Quote from: omaghjoe on July 31, 2018, 05:28:57 PM
Quote from: J70 on July 31, 2018, 05:10:56 PM
Quote from: redhandefender on July 31, 2018, 02:52:04 PM
Quote from: J70 on July 31, 2018, 12:18:04 PM
Quote from: redhandefender on July 31, 2018, 09:35:13 AM
I think its a bit stupid for a game like this in a tiny ground that all other counties in ulster can avail of some tickets as well. You'll have people from Fermanagh and cavan etc there

I take it you were pushing for Tyrone to give up home advantage for the Dubs game and move the match to Clones to accommodate all the Cavan and Fermanagh supporters who were interested THAT day?

And in case you'd forgotten, Donegal have already played two away games.

Finally, we've had major whinging and crying for both Tyrone and Armagh supporters in the past when they had to come to Ballybofey, only for the games to fall well short of selling out.

What are you talking about you clown I never said it should be moved! I'm saying the tickets should be allocated to the 2 counties competing and in particular their club members. I know Fermanagh and cavan people who have tickets for this obtained through their county board!

Club members should have been catered for first and before general sale.

But, Ballybofey is a kip! Omagh has problems with flooding but is a good ground!

1. Calm the f**k down.
2. I misunderstood your post. My apologies for that. Your actual point is valid.
3. I've never had issues myself with Ballybofey (I take it you've never "enjoyed" Ballyshannon? :p), but each to their own.

Why would we calm down when everytime we go to that shithole we get shafted a the gate, the ground, the pitch and the ref

(http://c3.thejournal.ie/media/2012/11/soccer-8-390x285.jpg)  ;D
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: greatpoint on July 31, 2018, 05:57:29 PM
Quote from: omaghjoe on July 31, 2018, 05:28:57 PM
Quote from: J70 on July 31, 2018, 05:10:56 PM
Quote from: redhandefender on July 31, 2018, 02:52:04 PM
Quote from: J70 on July 31, 2018, 12:18:04 PM
Quote from: redhandefender on July 31, 2018, 09:35:13 AM
I think its a bit stupid for a game like this in a tiny ground that all other counties in ulster can avail of some tickets as well. You'll have people from Fermanagh and cavan etc there

I take it you were pushing for Tyrone to give up home advantage for the Dubs game and move the match to Clones to accommodate all the Cavan and Fermanagh supporters who were interested THAT day?

And in case you'd forgotten, Donegal have already played two away games.

Finally, we've had major whinging and crying for both Tyrone and Armagh supporters in the past when they had to come to Ballybofey, only for the games to fall well short of selling out.

What are you talking about you clown I never said it should be moved! I'm saying the tickets should be allocated to the 2 counties competing and in particular their club members. I know Fermanagh and cavan people who have tickets for this obtained through their county board!

Club members should have been catered for first and before general sale.

But, Ballybofey is a kip! Omagh has problems with flooding but is a good ground!

1. Calm the f**k down.
2. I misunderstood your post. My apologies for that. Your actual point is valid.
3. I've never had issues myself with Ballybofey (I take it you've never "enjoyed" Ballyshannon? :p), but each to their own.

Why would we calm down when everytime we go to that shithole we get shafted a the gate, the ground, the pitch and the ref

Is this a parody account?
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: trileacman on July 31, 2018, 06:25:49 PM
Christ there's some whinging nowadays. I've looked for ticket through the club but on the fair chance I don't get one I'll not be too annoyed because a) another good supporter has one, b) it has the makings of a turgid game,  c) every time I go to Ballybofey i get f**king soaked and d) it's on the telly.

Ballybofey is a shithole. So is Omagh. Clones and Armagh are top grounds, love them. Marshes, Brewster and kingspan are grand. Casement was shithole central when in operation. f**k I hated it.

Enough about tickets and who's pitch is less shit that the other guys. Can we talk football? Looks like Mc namee is out and that's a big loss. I'd have had him stuck to Murphy as he's fit to play at fb and at midfield if murph roams out. Looks like it'll be Hampsey to pick him up but there's a huge size differential there that worries me. Who'll pick up Mc Hugh? Mc cann is an option as he has the fitness to follow him anywhere but I'd probably stick Meyler on him. They'll obviously have men picking up Harte and matty. Hugh pat is probably our go to man marker now with ronan and cathal out. That's another issue but Brennan, who'll he likely pick up, is hardly the player to exploit it.

For all the talk of Donegal losing eoghan ban and Mc bearty it's likely the 2 Tyrone men those two would have been lining up against will not be fit to start (lee Brennan and Mc namee). Too much weight being placed in Donegal's "injury crisis" it is just as likely injuries have set Tyrone back as much as it has Donegal.
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: J70 on July 31, 2018, 07:01:34 PM
I'd agree on Eoghan Ban, but McBrearty is a top, top player. Only comparable loss for us would be Murphy himself. Everyone else, McHugh included, can be replaced to some degree.
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: J70 on July 31, 2018, 07:14:37 PM
Also agree on the game. It's going to be grim. Either 2016 or 2017 grim is possible, but horrible, nasty, petulant game followed by Tyrone win, IMO.
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: dlgael on July 31, 2018, 07:29:45 PM
I'm warming to the idea of a home win myself. Midfield will most likely be a quagmire. Patton in goal. At the back I reckon Eoghan Ban will play alongside McGee and McGrath with McGlynn, Brennan and R McHugh making up the back 6. McLoone and McFadden at MF with Thompson, Langan and Eamon Doherty behind McNiallais, Murphy and Jamie Brennan. This team can win in Ballybofey. The atmosphere will be right where it should be for an AIQF. Biggest home game in my living memory.
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: Baile an tuaigh on July 31, 2018, 07:32:24 PM
What is the craic with Lee Brennan? I read somewhere in one of the comments he was flying it at training. Can we expect to see him in the last twenty minutes or so?
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: trailer on July 31, 2018, 08:16:38 PM
McBreaty is a huge loss for Donegal. Be interesting to see the match ups with McHugh and Murphy. Would Harte sacrifice Colm to mark Murphy? Although I heard Cavanagh has been carrying a knock and not really trained.
Think Mattie Donnelly needs a big game. Been very quiet this year so far.

Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: Therealdonald on July 31, 2018, 08:40:07 PM
Quote from: trileacman on July 31, 2018, 06:25:49 PM
Christ there's some whinging nowadays. I've looked for ticket through the club but on the fair chance I don't get one I'll not be too annoyed because a) another good supporter has one, b) it has the makings of a turgid game,  c) every time I go to Ballybofey i get f**king soaked and d) it's on the telly.

Ballybofey is a shithole. So is Omagh. Clones and Armagh are top grounds, love them. Marshes, Brewster and kingspan are grand. Casement was shithole central when in operation. f**k I hated it.

Enough about tickets and who's pitch is less shit that the other guys. Can we talk football? Looks like Mc namee is out and that's a big loss. I'd have had him stuck to Murphy as he's fit to play at fb and at midfield if murph roams out. Looks like it'll be Hampsey to pick him up but there's a huge size differential there that worries me. Who'll pick up Mc Hugh? Mc cann is an option as he has the fitness to follow him anywhere but I'd probably stick Meyler on him. They'll obviously have men picking up Harte and matty. Hugh pat is probably our go to man marker now with ronan and cathal out. That's another issue but Brennan, who'll he likely pick up, is hardly the player to exploit it.

For all the talk of Donegal losing eoghan ban and Mc bearty it's likely the 2 Tyrone men those two would have been lining up against will not be fit to start (lee Brennan and Mc namee). Too much weight being placed in Donegal's "injury crisis" it is just as likely injuries have set Tyrone back as much as it has Donegal.

Hampsey picked him up last year and kept him very quiet. Hampsey would be the same size as McNamee with a bit more strength/bulk, plus hes a better defender/footballer so thats the match up I wanted anyway. Think we can expect Meyler to pick up McHugh for definite. Can't see many surprises with Harte's team but I genuinely hope that either Burns or Colly Cav and McShane get the chop. The first two because with Murphy out the field and no McBrearty we don't need the cover, secondly McShane because he's too inconsistent and I'd rather see Brennan in there.
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: Fear ón Srath Bán on July 31, 2018, 10:32:35 PM
Quote from: dlgael on July 31, 2018, 07:29:45 PM
I'm warming to the idea of a home win myself...

Which is probably more confident than Jim Mc Guinness is since he didn't mention it at all in his today's Irish Times piece! ;)

It's about time we put this Ballybofey bogey to bed -- we've successfully turned Clones around in the last two meetings, now it's time for Mac Cumhaill.
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: Norf Tyrone on July 31, 2018, 11:19:32 PM
Quote from: Therealdonald on July 31, 2018, 08:40:07 PM
Quote from: trileacman on July 31, 2018, 06:25:49 PM
Christ there's some whinging nowadays. I've looked for ticket through the club but on the fair chance I don't get one I'll not be too annoyed because a) another good supporter has one, b) it has the makings of a turgid game,  c) every time I go to Ballybofey i get f**king soaked and d) it's on the telly.

Ballybofey is a shithole. So is Omagh. Clones and Armagh are top grounds, love them. Marshes, Brewster and kingspan are grand. Casement was shithole central when in operation. f**k I hated it.

Enough about tickets and who's pitch is less shit that the other guys. Can we talk football? Looks like Mc namee is out and that's a big loss. I'd have had him stuck to Murphy as he's fit to play at fb and at midfield if murph roams out. Looks like it'll be Hampsey to pick him up but there's a huge size differential there that worries me. Who'll pick up Mc Hugh? Mc cann is an option as he has the fitness to follow him anywhere but I'd probably stick Meyler on him. They'll obviously have men picking up Harte and matty. Hugh pat is probably our go to man marker now with ronan and cathal out. That's another issue but Brennan, who'll he likely pick up, is hardly the player to exploit it.

For all the talk of Donegal losing eoghan ban and Mc bearty it's likely the 2 Tyrone men those two would have been lining up against will not be fit to start (lee Brennan and Mc namee). Too much weight being placed in Donegal's "injury crisis" it is just as likely injuries have set Tyrone back as much as it has Donegal.

Hampsey picked him up last year and kept him very quiet. Hampsey would be the same size as McNamee with a bit more strength/bulk, plus hes a better defender/footballer so thats the match up I wanted anyway. Think we can expect Meyler to pick up McHugh for definite. Can't see many surprises with Harte's team but I genuinely hope that either Burns or Colly Cav and McShane get the chop. The first two because with Murphy out the field and no McBrearty we don't need the cover, secondly McShane because he's too inconsistent and I'd rather see Brennan in there.

Not sure where the McShane inconsistent thing comes from,

I.think he has been very good in every game. Indeed if I rated the players in each game he'd be 2nd or 3rd best in almost every encounter.

Reading the locals and nationals as well and he's almost alwats 7.5 to 8.5 all the time. He attracts lots of scoreable frees and has been the link man in a number of Tyrone goals this term.
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: trileacman on July 31, 2018, 11:24:22 PM
Quote from: Therealdonald on July 31, 2018, 08:40:07 PM
Quote from: trileacman on July 31, 2018, 06:25:49 PM
Christ there's some whinging nowadays. I've looked for ticket through the club but on the fair chance I don't get one I'll not be too annoyed because a) another good supporter has one, b) it has the makings of a turgid game,  c) every time I go to Ballybofey i get f**king soaked and d) it's on the telly.

Ballybofey is a shithole. So is Omagh. Clones and Armagh are top grounds, love them. Marshes, Brewster and kingspan are grand. Casement was shithole central when in operation. f**k I hated it.

Enough about tickets and who's pitch is less shit that the other guys. Can we talk football? Looks like Mc namee is out and that's a big loss. I'd have had him stuck to Murphy as he's fit to play at fb and at midfield if murph roams out. Looks like it'll be Hampsey to pick him up but there's a huge size differential there that worries me. Who'll pick up Mc Hugh? Mc cann is an option as he has the fitness to follow him anywhere but I'd probably stick Meyler on him. They'll obviously have men picking up Harte and matty. Hugh pat is probably our go to man marker now with ronan and cathal out. That's another issue but Brennan, who'll he likely pick up, is hardly the player to exploit it.

For all the talk of Donegal losing eoghan ban and Mc bearty it's likely the 2 Tyrone men those two would have been lining up against will not be fit to start (lee Brennan and Mc namee). Too much weight being placed in Donegal's "injury crisis" it is just as likely injuries have set Tyrone back as much as it has Donegal.

Hampsey picked him up last year and kept him very quiet. Hampsey would be the same size as McNamee with a bit more strength/bulk, plus hes a better defender/footballer so thats the match up I wanted anyway. Think we can expect Meyler to pick up McHugh for definite. Can't see many surprises with Harte's team but I genuinely hope that either Burns or Colly Cav and McShane get the chop. The first two because with Murphy out the field and no McBrearty we don't need the cover, secondly McShane because he's too inconsistent and I'd rather see Brennan in there.

Burns is the outstanding Tyrone player of the year. Has consistently preformed well in every game bar the last one where he wasn't even that bad. Iggy Jones is more likely to play the next day than Burns is to be dropped. Whether we need him for defensive cover or not sadly Colly Cavanagh is the sole midfield option we have. He's the most consistent high fielder amongst the panel with Conal and McClure failing to stamp their mark on any appearances this year. He also more regularly contributes to the score sheet than the alternatives. Really outside himself there's not one inter-county fielder in that team. McShane, the 2 Donnellys, Mc Cann, Burns or Meyler are not IC standard fielders. Colm, even if half fit and unable to do the sweeper role is still gonna be in the team. He's the modern day version of Colly Holmes or Hub, a big strong lad to provide a platform for kick-outs.

Our failure to develop good quality midfielders this past 15-20 years is puzzling. It's hasn't been a strong area for Tyrone since the 80's.
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: Therealdonald on July 31, 2018, 11:37:18 PM
Quote from: trileacman on July 31, 2018, 11:24:22 PM
Quote from: Therealdonald on July 31, 2018, 08:40:07 PM
Quote from: trileacman on July 31, 2018, 06:25:49 PM
Christ there's some whinging nowadays. I've looked for ticket through the club but on the fair chance I don't get one I'll not be too annoyed because a) another good supporter has one, b) it has the makings of a turgid game,  c) every time I go to Ballybofey i get f**king soaked and d) it's on the telly.

Ballybofey is a shithole. So is Omagh. Clones and Armagh are top grounds, love them. Marshes, Brewster and kingspan are grand. Casement was shithole central when in operation. f**k I hated it.

Enough about tickets and who's pitch is less shit that the other guys. Can we talk football? Looks like Mc namee is out and that's a big loss. I'd have had him stuck to Murphy as he's fit to play at fb and at midfield if murph roams out. Looks like it'll be Hampsey to pick him up but there's a huge size differential there that worries me. Who'll pick up Mc Hugh? Mc cann is an option as he has the fitness to follow him anywhere but I'd probably stick Meyler on him. They'll obviously have men picking up Harte and matty. Hugh pat is probably our go to man marker now with ronan and cathal out. That's another issue but Brennan, who'll he likely pick up, is hardly the player to exploit it.

For all the talk of Donegal losing eoghan ban and Mc bearty it's likely the 2 Tyrone men those two would have been lining up against will not be fit to start (lee Brennan and Mc namee). Too much weight being placed in Donegal's "injury crisis" it is just as likely injuries have set Tyrone back as much as it has Donegal.

Hampsey picked him up last year and kept him very quiet. Hampsey would be the same size as McNamee with a bit more strength/bulk, plus hes a better defender/footballer so thats the match up I wanted anyway. Think we can expect Meyler to pick up McHugh for definite. Can't see many surprises with Harte's team but I genuinely hope that either Burns or Colly Cav and McShane get the chop. The first two because with Murphy out the field and no McBrearty we don't need the cover, secondly McShane because he's too inconsistent and I'd rather see Brennan in there.

Burns is the outstanding Tyrone player of the year. Has consistently preformed well in every game bar the last one where he wasn't even that bad. Iggy Jones is more likely to play the next day than Burns is to be dropped. Whether we need him for defensive cover or not sadly Colly Cavanagh is the sole midfield option we have. He's the most consistent high fielder amongst the panel with Conal and McClure failing to stamp their mark on any appearances this year. He also more regularly contributes to the score sheet than the alternatives. Really outside himself there's not one inter-county fielder in that team. McShane, the 2 Donnellys, Mc Cann, Burns or Meyler are not IC standard fielders. Colm, even if half fit and unable to do the sweeper role is still gonna be in the team. He's the modern day version of Colly Holmes or Hub, a big strong lad to provide a platform for kick-outs.

Our failure to develop good quality midfielders this past 15-20 years is puzzling. It's hasn't been a strong area for Tyrone since the 80's.

Let's not get carried away. Its no coincidence that against Dublin when Burns and Colly Cav went off that Tyrone flourished. Burns provided no cover for the defence against Dublin nor offered little going forward. God himself showed it on sky that he doesn't cover correctly. In a straight knockout game we can't allow this. We have a two-time All-Star that we're not getting the most out of. I'd let him play Burns role and drive us forward.

As for midfielders, Tyrone's midfielders of the last 20 years have been to name a few Pascal Canavan, Gormley, McGinley, Sean Cavanagh, Colly Cav, Mattie Donnelly....only 1 of those hasn't been an All-Star. To compare, at present the role Fenton plays for Dublin, McGinley played for us 10 years ago to less plaudits.
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: trileacman on July 31, 2018, 11:54:58 PM
Quote from: Therealdonald on July 31, 2018, 11:37:18 PM
Quote from: trileacman on July 31, 2018, 11:24:22 PM
Quote from: Therealdonald on July 31, 2018, 08:40:07 PM
Quote from: trileacman on July 31, 2018, 06:25:49 PM
Christ there's some whinging nowadays. I've looked for ticket through the club but on the fair chance I don't get one I'll not be too annoyed because a) another good supporter has one, b) it has the makings of a turgid game,  c) every time I go to Ballybofey i get f**king soaked and d) it's on the telly.

Ballybofey is a shithole. So is Omagh. Clones and Armagh are top grounds, love them. Marshes, Brewster and kingspan are grand. Casement was shithole central when in operation. f**k I hated it.

Enough about tickets and who's pitch is less shit that the other guys. Can we talk football? Looks like Mc namee is out and that's a big loss. I'd have had him stuck to Murphy as he's fit to play at fb and at midfield if murph roams out. Looks like it'll be Hampsey to pick him up but there's a huge size differential there that worries me. Who'll pick up Mc Hugh? Mc cann is an option as he has the fitness to follow him anywhere but I'd probably stick Meyler on him. They'll obviously have men picking up Harte and matty. Hugh pat is probably our go to man marker now with ronan and cathal out. That's another issue but Brennan, who'll he likely pick up, is hardly the player to exploit it.

For all the talk of Donegal losing eoghan ban and Mc bearty it's likely the 2 Tyrone men those two would have been lining up against will not be fit to start (lee Brennan and Mc namee). Too much weight being placed in Donegal's "injury crisis" it is just as likely injuries have set Tyrone back as much as it has Donegal.

Hampsey picked him up last year and kept him very quiet. Hampsey would be the same size as McNamee with a bit more strength/bulk, plus hes a better defender/footballer so thats the match up I wanted anyway. Think we can expect Meyler to pick up McHugh for definite. Can't see many surprises with Harte's team but I genuinely hope that either Burns or Colly Cav and McShane get the chop. The first two because with Murphy out the field and no McBrearty we don't need the cover, secondly McShane because he's too inconsistent and I'd rather see Brennan in there.

Burns is the outstanding Tyrone player of the year. Has consistently preformed well in every game bar the last one where he wasn't even that bad. Iggy Jones is more likely to play the next day than Burns is to be dropped. Whether we need him for defensive cover or not sadly Colly Cavanagh is the sole midfield option we have. He's the most consistent high fielder amongst the panel with Conal and McClure failing to stamp their mark on any appearances this year. He also more regularly contributes to the score sheet than the alternatives. Really outside himself there's not one inter-county fielder in that team. McShane, the 2 Donnellys, Mc Cann, Burns or Meyler are not IC standard fielders. Colm, even if half fit and unable to do the sweeper role is still gonna be in the team. He's the modern day version of Colly Holmes or Hub, a big strong lad to provide a platform for kick-outs.

Our failure to develop good quality midfielders this past 15-20 years is puzzling. It's hasn't been a strong area for Tyrone since the 80's.

Let's not get carried away. Its no coincidence that against Dublin when Burns and Colly Cav went off that Tyrone flourished. Burns provided no cover for the defence against Dublin nor offered little going forward. God himself showed it on sky that he doesn't cover correctly. In a straight knockout game we can't allow this. We have a two-time All-Star that we're not getting the most out of. I'd let him play Burns role and drive us forward.

As for midfielders, Tyrone's midfielders of the last 20 years have been to name a few Pascal Canavan, Gormley, McGinley, Sean Cavanagh, Colly Cav, Mattie Donnelly....only 1 of those hasn't been an All-Star. To compare, at present the role Fenton plays for Dublin, McGinley played for us 10 years ago to less plaudits.

Fenton is a much finer fielder than McGinley. If I'd to compare McGinley to a dub it would be James McCarthy. A real box to box midfielder but not an a winner of a plethora of kickouts. None of those you named were traditional midfield exponents with the possible exception of Gormley. Matty plays his best stuff from the half-back line, Sean C won footballer of the year by playing between full-forward and wing half forward, McGinley started at corner forward and changed the role of midfielder to a mobile player who could cover  all the blades of grass. Pascal for me done his best stuff with ball in hand, picking passes.

I suppose we produce a different type of good midfielder to what I perceive as a traditional midfielder. Dara O'Se, Whelan, Tom Flynn, Fenton, Muldoon, Tohill, Neil Gallagher, Nic Muprhy, Alan O'Connor were/are what I consider to be what we aren't producing.
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: omaghjoe on July 31, 2018, 11:58:19 PM
Funnily enough Id have Colly Holmes and Kevin Hughes ahead of most of those guys listed as a traditional midfielder
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: Therealdonald on August 01, 2018, 12:51:38 AM
Quote from: trileacman on July 31, 2018, 11:54:58 PM
Quote from: Therealdonald on July 31, 2018, 11:37:18 PM
Quote from: trileacman on July 31, 2018, 11:24:22 PM
Quote from: Therealdonald on July 31, 2018, 08:40:07 PM
Quote from: trileacman on July 31, 2018, 06:25:49 PM
Christ there's some whinging nowadays. I've looked for ticket through the club but on the fair chance I don't get one I'll not be too annoyed because a) another good supporter has one, b) it has the makings of a turgid game,  c) every time I go to Ballybofey i get f**king soaked and d) it's on the telly.

Ballybofey is a shithole. So is Omagh. Clones and Armagh are top grounds, love them. Marshes, Brewster and kingspan are grand. Casement was shithole central when in operation. f**k I hated it.

Enough about tickets and who's pitch is less shit that the other guys. Can we talk football? Looks like Mc namee is out and that's a big loss. I'd have had him stuck to Murphy as he's fit to play at fb and at midfield if murph roams out. Looks like it'll be Hampsey to pick him up but there's a huge size differential there that worries me. Who'll pick up Mc Hugh? Mc cann is an option as he has the fitness to follow him anywhere but I'd probably stick Meyler on him. They'll obviously have men picking up Harte and matty. Hugh pat is probably our go to man marker now with ronan and cathal out. That's another issue but Brennan, who'll he likely pick up, is hardly the player to exploit it.

For all the talk of Donegal losing eoghan ban and Mc bearty it's likely the 2 Tyrone men those two would have been lining up against will not be fit to start (lee Brennan and Mc namee). Too much weight being placed in Donegal's "injury crisis" it is just as likely injuries have set Tyrone back as much as it has Donegal.

Hampsey picked him up last year and kept him very quiet. Hampsey would be the same size as McNamee with a bit more strength/bulk, plus hes a better defender/footballer so thats the match up I wanted anyway. Think we can expect Meyler to pick up McHugh for definite. Can't see many surprises with Harte's team but I genuinely hope that either Burns or Colly Cav and McShane get the chop. The first two because with Murphy out the field and no McBrearty we don't need the cover, secondly McShane because he's too inconsistent and I'd rather see Brennan in there.

Burns is the outstanding Tyrone player of the year. Has consistently preformed well in every game bar the last one where he wasn't even that bad. Iggy Jones is more likely to play the next day than Burns is to be dropped. Whether we need him for defensive cover or not sadly Colly Cavanagh is the sole midfield option we have. He's the most consistent high fielder amongst the panel with Conal and McClure failing to stamp their mark on any appearances this year. He also more regularly contributes to the score sheet than the alternatives. Really outside himself there's not one inter-county fielder in that team. McShane, the 2 Donnellys, Mc Cann, Burns or Meyler are not IC standard fielders. Colm, even if half fit and unable to do the sweeper role is still gonna be in the team. He's the modern day version of Colly Holmes or Hub, a big strong lad to provide a platform for kick-outs.

Our failure to develop good quality midfielders this past 15-20 years is puzzling. It's hasn't been a strong area for Tyrone since the 80's.

Let's not get carried away. Its no coincidence that against Dublin when Burns and Colly Cav went off that Tyrone flourished. Burns provided no cover for the defence against Dublin nor offered little going forward. God himself showed it on sky that he doesn't cover correctly. In a straight knockout game we can't allow this. We have a two-time All-Star that we're not getting the most out of. I'd let him play Burns role and drive us forward.

As for midfielders, Tyrone's midfielders of the last 20 years have been to name a few Pascal Canavan, Gormley, McGinley, Sean Cavanagh, Colly Cav, Mattie Donnelly....only 1 of those hasn't been an All-Star. To compare, at present the role Fenton plays for Dublin, McGinley played for us 10 years ago to less plaudits.

Fenton is a much finer fielder than McGinley. If I'd to compare McGinley to a dub it would be James McCarthy. A real box to box midfielder but not an a winner of a plethora of kickouts. None of those you named were traditional midfield exponents with the possible exception of Gormley. Matty plays his best stuff from the half-back line, Sean C won footballer of the year by playing between full-forward and wing half forward, McGinley started at corner forward and changed the role of midfielder to a mobile player who could cover  all the blades of grass. Pascal for me done his best stuff with ball in hand, picking passes.

I suppose we produce a different type of good midfielder to what I perceive as a traditional midfielder. Dara O'Se, Whelan, Tom Flynn, Fenton, Muldoon, Tohill, Neil Gallagher, Nic Muprhy, Alan O'Connor were/are what I consider to be what we aren't producing.

I get what you're saying. And most of them men are with the exception of O'Se are 6ft 2'' plus. We don't probably produce that size of a midfielder. Don't forget that Cavanagh won 3 All-Stars in a row at midfield during the same era of O'Se, Whelan, Muldoon, Tohill and Murphy or O'Connor. The role of that traditional midfielder has probably diminished with the improved accuracy of keepers. Whereas if a midfielder was dominating the air, the keeper just kicked it to the other side, now he can ping it 60 yds straight to a chest.

Tyrone despite last years performance are probably the closest team to Dublin, and what we miss in my opinion is a hard edge around the middle compared to Dublin. Just an observation. I don't see any of the Tyrone team from 12 back really striking fear into any team in regards to big hits or just downright skullduggery.
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: BennyHarp on August 01, 2018, 09:29:20 AM
I could come to regret this statement but with McBrearty out, if we manage to shut down Murphy and McHugh then I can't see us losing this game. With McNamee out I'd assume Rory Brennan will be in with a chance of starting. He did a good job on McHugh a few years ago after coming off the bench so could be an option there. We can't afford to leave Harte picking up McHugh. I'd probably go with a starting team something along the lines of;
Morgan
McKernan
Hampsey (to pick up Murphy so most likely playing out round MF)
HP
McCann
Burns
Harte
Brennan (Picking up McHugh, possibly sharing role with Meyler)
Cavanagh
Meyler
Sludden
Matty
McShane (likely to play in midfield)
Ritchie
Skeet

Leaves us game changers in McGeary, Bradley and possibly Lee Brennan to come in. We are a bit short on defensive cover though.

Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: screenexile on August 01, 2018, 10:51:55 AM
Poor Mickey caught out in a lie and by Sky TV no less . . . that's not very Christian of him!!
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: Fuzzman on August 01, 2018, 11:06:45 AM
I do enjoy these random comments from lads who don't really have a team to support any more.
It does brighten up my day now and again to see lads like this and Jinxy trawling through threads looking for something to give out about.

Are yis supporting Donegal this weekend then lads?

I would not be surprised to see Mickey throw a curve ball this week when naming the team.
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: screenexile on August 01, 2018, 11:50:30 AM
Quote from: Fuzzman on August 01, 2018, 11:06:45 AM
I do enjoy these random comments from lads who don't really have a team to support any more.
It does brighten up my day now and again to see lads like this and Jinxy trawling through threads looking for something to give out about.

Are yis supporting Donegal this weekend then lads?

I would not be surprised to see Mickey throw a curve ball this week when naming the team.

Absolutely!!

Great people and play a decent brand of football sure why wouldn't you support them against the Tymoanies.
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: Fuzzman on August 01, 2018, 12:22:56 PM
If you were ever at a Donegal home game in the last few years you'd see how good of people they are.
The bile that comes from SOME of their mouths, even from women and men over a certain vintage is a disgrace.

But then again you would never experience that because ye just roll over and let them tickle your fat tummys like ye do with every other team now.
Ahh well. If it still brings ye some entertainment from afar then I don't begrudge you that.
Will ye have a yellow and green flag to wave or will you have the Derry shirt on watching it on Premier sports?
:-[

Anyway folks, back to the game.
Do you think Rory B will be in the team before McGeary.
It was good to see Loughran getting a bit of a run out this year. I see Skeet is the 3rd top scorer this year after Mansy and Roxy.
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: inthrough on August 01, 2018, 12:35:42 PM
Quote from: Fuzzman on August 01, 2018, 12:22:56 PM
If you were ever at a Donegal home game in the last few years you'd see how good of people they are.
The bile that comes from SOME of their mouths, even from women and men over a certain vintage is a disgrace.
Meeting SOME Tyrone GAA supporters in the flesh has that effect on a lot of people. ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: oakleafgael on August 01, 2018, 12:41:08 PM
Quote from: inthrough on August 01, 2018, 12:35:42 PM
Quote from: Fuzzman on August 01, 2018, 12:22:56 PM
If you were ever at a Donegal home game in the last few years you'd see how good of people they are.
The bile that comes from SOME of their mouths, even from women and men over a certain vintage is a disgrace.
Meeting SOME Tyrone GAA supporters in the flesh has that effect on a lot of people. ;D ;D ;D

Both counties have their issues with supporters, like all counties really, but as long as Donegal have Declan Bonner in charge they don't deserve any neutral support.
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: In hiding on August 01, 2018, 12:46:51 PM
Quote from: Fuzzman on August 01, 2018, 12:22:56 PM
If you were ever at a Donegal home game in the last few years you'd see how good of people they are.
The bile that comes from SOME of their mouths, even from women and men over a certain vintage is a disgrace.

But then again you would never experience that because ye just roll over and let them tickle your fat tummys like ye do with every other team now.
Ahh well. If it still brings ye some entertainment from afar then I don't begrudge you that.
Will ye have a yellow and green flag to wave or will you have the Derry shirt on watching it on Premier sports?
:-[

Anyway folks, back to the game.
Do you think Rory B will be in the team before McGeary.
It was good to see Loughran getting a bit of a run out this year. I see Skeet is the 3rd top scorer this year after Mansy and Roxy.

Who are mansy and roxy ?
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: Jinxy on August 01, 2018, 01:18:28 PM
Quote from: Fuzzman on August 01, 2018, 11:06:45 AM
I do enjoy these random comments from lads who don't really have a team to support any more.
It does brighten up my day now and again to see lads like this and Jinxy trawling through threads looking for something to give out about.

Are yis supporting Donegal this weekend then lads?

I would not be surprised to see Mickey throw a curve ball this week when naming the team.

WTF?
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: JoG2 on August 01, 2018, 01:39:21 PM
Quote from: Fuzzman on August 01, 2018, 12:22:56 PM
If you were ever at a Donegal Tyronehome game in the last few years you'd see how good of people they are.
The bile that comes from SOME of their mouths, even from women and men over a certain vintage is a disgrace.


fixed

Nowhere comes remotely close to Healy Park for 'grown up' mouth pieces
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: greatpoint on August 01, 2018, 01:43:51 PM
Was it in Healy Park that Karl Lacey was spat on?
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: screenexile on August 01, 2018, 01:50:24 PM
Quote from: greatpoint on August 01, 2018, 01:43:51 PM
Was it in Healy Park that Karl Lacey was spat on?

Ssssshhhhh that was Sky's fault!! :o :o
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: giveballaghback on August 01, 2018, 02:30:12 PM
I was in Healy park last year as I have been on a few occasions before and had great banter with the Tyrone supporters around me before during and after the game, all counties have a few assholes supporting them but just ignore them, they do not represent either their own county or the Irish people in general.
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: greatpoint on August 01, 2018, 02:53:24 PM
https://www.breakingnews.ie/sport/gaa/owen-mulligan-suggests-tyrone-narrowed-pitch-to-prepare-for-donegal-in-ballybofey-859330.html

Isn't Ballybofey wider than Omagh in the first place, 86m vs. 90m?

Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: trueblue1234 on August 01, 2018, 03:02:00 PM
Quote from: giveballaghback on August 01, 2018, 02:30:12 PM
I was in Healy park last year as I have been on a few occasions before and had great banter with the Tyrone supporters around me before during and after the game, all counties have a few assholes supporting them but just ignore them, they do not represent either their own county or the Irish people in general.

Ahh here, leave the Derry wans their bit of enjoyment trying to goad. T'is a long winter for them.
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: Fuzzman on August 01, 2018, 03:06:21 PM
Conor McManus and Dean Rock  ;D

Can anyone here share with the rest of us the atmosphere at the Tyrone v Donegal games the last 4 or 5 years down in Ballybofey. I only made it to one and some of the stuff going on was pathetic. Grown men and women in their 50s and 60s and above shouting all sorts of stuff.

Anyway, I believe there are a HUGE number of Tyrone fans going to go down to the town anyway in buses just for the craic and to bring a big of colour to the dreary place like the Dubs did to Omagh.

Jinxy WTF, click on your profile and read previous posts and you'll probably shock yourself how often you have opinions on Tyrone threads as you don't have a team to follow yourself.

Sorry trueblue, you're right. Continue lads.

Tyrone top scorers for this championship
Skeet     2.32
Sludden  2.14
Harte      2.11
Richie     2.08
McShane 0.12
Burns      0.09
RON        1.05
Mattie      0.07
McKernan 1.04
Sparky     1.03
Meyler      1.02
Tiernan     0.04
Loughran  1.01

Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: Jinxy on August 01, 2018, 03:33:56 PM
Quote from: Fuzzman on August 01, 2018, 03:06:21 PM
Conor McManus and Dean Rock  ;D

Can anyone here share with the rest of us the atmosphere at the Tyrone v Donegal games the last 4 or 5 years down in Ballybofey. I only made it to one and some of the stuff going on was pathetic. Grown men and women in their 50s and 60s and above shouting all sorts of stuff.

Anyway, I believe there are a HUGE number of Tyrone fans going to go down to the town anyway in buses just for the craic and to bring a big of colour to the dreary place like the Dubs did to Omagh.

Jinxy WTF, click on your profile and read previous posts and you'll probably shock yourself how often you have opinions on Tyrone threads as you don't have a team to follow yourself.

Sorry trueblue, you're right. Continue lads.

Tyrone top scorers for this championship
Skeet     2.32
Sludden  2.14
Harte      2.11
Richie     2.08
McShane 0.12
Burns      0.09
RON        1.05
Mattie      0.07
McKernan 1.04
Sparky     1.03
Meyler      1.02
Tiernan     0.04
Loughran  1.01

That wasn't me, that was Sky.
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: dlgael on August 01, 2018, 03:43:09 PM
I could share the respect given to Karl Lacey in 2013 as footballer of the year where he was spat on in the stand in Healy Park. I've yet to witness that low grade of behaviour from  a Donegal Gael and can assure you if I ever do the thug in question will get a good clip on the ear.
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: blewuporstuffed on August 01, 2018, 04:26:37 PM
Quote from: In hiding on August 01, 2018, 12:46:51 PM
Quote from: Fuzzman on August 01, 2018, 12:22:56 PM
If you were ever at a Donegal home game in the last few years you'd see how good of people they are.
The bile that comes from SOME of their mouths, even from women and men over a certain vintage is a disgrace.

But then again you would never experience that because ye just roll over and let them tickle your fat tummys like ye do with every other team now.
Ahh well. If it still brings ye some entertainment from afar then I don't begrudge you that.
Will ye have a yellow and green flag to wave or will you have the Derry shirt on watching it on Premier sports?
:-[

Anyway folks, back to the game.
Do you think Rory B will be in the team before McGeary.
It was good to see Loughran getting a bit of a run out this year. I see Skeet is the 3rd top scorer this year after Mansy and Roxy.

Who are mansy and roxy ?
Im guessing Conor McManus & Dean Rock?
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: Fuzzman on August 01, 2018, 04:43:21 PM
Many don't like bringing it up but I think if you're gonna bring up some nit wit spitting at a player like that then you have to bring up Cassidy's behaviour towards Peter Harte re Michaela. Some people just refuse to believe the story but I have heard several players say it is true.

Lets face it folks, Donegal were in Tyrone's shade for a long long time and even though they won an AI before we did, for years they felt we were the big guns in Ulster or at least the team to beat.
Then McGuinness came along and changed the mindset of the Donegal player first and then the fans.
They knew they had just as good if not better footballers than Tyrone and Armagh and so he instilled that wee bit of belief and harder edge that for too long they lacked.
Players like the 2 McGee brothers epitomized what the new "hardened"  Donegal team were like.
They stunned both Kerry and Cork in 2012 as both thought they knew what was coming but neither could stop it.

So if you are a "neutral" arm chair fan who hasn't been to any Donegal games in the last few years I think you might still think all Donegal fans and players will welcome you in with a wee cuppa tae and a friendly chat but the truth is far from that. For a good few years there Donegal were top dogs over Tyrone at least.

Some would say McQuillan will be out of his depth on Sunday trying to keep the lid on this game. He tends to easily influenced by the home support as we often see in Croker.

Will Mickey be naming the team tonight? I am expecting a surprise from him. Just to spice it up.
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: JoG2 on August 01, 2018, 04:46:01 PM
Sounds like you won't be content until there's a running battle in Ballybofey
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: omaghjoe on August 01, 2018, 05:02:52 PM
Quote from: dlgael on August 01, 2018, 03:43:09 PM
I could share the respect given to Karl Lacey in 2013 as footballer of the year where he was spat on in the stand in Healy Park. I've yet to witness that low grade of behaviour from  a Donegal Gael and can assure you if I ever do the thug in question will get a good clip on the ear.

T'was bad alright I agree but if you cant find a support look at your managers behaviour a couple of years back.
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: omaghjoe on August 01, 2018, 05:05:32 PM
Quote from: JoG2 on August 01, 2018, 04:46:01 PM
Sounds like you won't be content until there's a running battle in Ballybofey

Hasn't the annual Derry Senior Club Fued started yet to keep yous going?
Or maybe its all wrapped up, after all the county team has had no matches since June.
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: greatpoint on August 01, 2018, 05:16:32 PM
Quote from: JoG2 on August 01, 2018, 04:46:01 PM
Sounds like you won't be content until there's a running battle in Ballybofey

Some people here seem to be fairly worked up alright.
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: Therealdonald on August 01, 2018, 05:17:31 PM
Quote from: omaghjoe on August 01, 2018, 05:05:32 PM
Quote from: JoG2 on August 01, 2018, 04:46:01 PM
Sounds like you won't be content until there's a running battle in Ballybofey

Hasn't the annual Derry Senior Club Fued started yet to keep yous going?
Or maybe its all wrapped up, after all the county team has had no matches since June.

Can any county team hold their head high about matters like these? Happens everywhere. Donegal supporters are no worse nor better than our own. Now instead of concentrating on bulldung, can we talk about the actual match?
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: J70 on August 01, 2018, 05:23:18 PM
FFS Tyronies... we've had whinging about the referee, Bonner, Ballybofey and now the Donegal supporters apparently being arseholes. The game is still four days away.

What are you going to be like if you lose?? God help us if McQuillan misses a free or blows for someone cleaning Ryan McHugh out of it!
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: trileacman on August 01, 2018, 06:24:47 PM
Quote from: J70 on August 01, 2018, 05:23:18 PM
FFS Tyronies... we've had whinging about the referee, Bonner, Ballybofey and now the Donegal supporters apparently being arseholes. The game is still four days away.

What are you going to be like if you lose?? God help us if McQuillan misses a free or blows for someone cleaning Ryan McHugh out of it!

It's nigh impossible to discuss Gaelic football on the board anymore without it descending into petty grievances. The Harte sky comment was made in jest, it didn't need to rise such a f**king reaction.

Do me a favour, I don't know this Donegal team that well, who'll mark Richie and Conor Mc aliskey on Sunday in your opinion? Will Murphy spend long periods in full forward or drift in and out as usual? Does anybody in Donegal rate Patton? I watched back a bit from Tyrone Donegal in the league. Jesus he was easy beat with a shot.
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: Therealdonald on August 01, 2018, 06:43:52 PM
Quote from: trileacman on August 01, 2018, 06:24:47 PM
Quote from: J70 on August 01, 2018, 05:23:18 PM
FFS Tyronies... we've had whinging about the referee, Bonner, Ballybofey and now the Donegal supporters apparently being arseholes. The game is still four days away.

What are you going to be like if you lose?? God help us if McQuillan misses a free or blows for someone cleaning Ryan McHugh out of it!

It's nigh impossible to discuss Gaelic football on the board anymore without it descending into petty grievances. The Harte sky comment was made in jest, it didn't need to rise such a f**king reaction.

Do me a favour, I don't know this Donegal team that well, who'll mark Richie and Conor Mc aliskey on Sunday in your opinion? Will Murphy spend long periods in full forward or drift in and out as usual? Does anybody in Donegal rate Patton? I watched back a bit from Tyrone Donegal in the league. Jesus he was easy beat with a shot.

Murphy will flit in and out. I can tell you that. McGee will pick up Richie, Paddy McGrath on Skeet.
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: J70 on August 01, 2018, 07:26:48 PM
Quote from: Therealdonald on August 01, 2018, 06:43:52 PM
Quote from: trileacman on August 01, 2018, 06:24:47 PM
Quote from: J70 on August 01, 2018, 05:23:18 PM
FFS Tyronies... we've had whinging about the referee, Bonner, Ballybofey and now the Donegal supporters apparently being arseholes. The game is still four days away.

What are you going to be like if you lose?? God help us if McQuillan misses a free or blows for someone cleaning Ryan McHugh out of it!

It's nigh impossible to discuss Gaelic football on the board anymore without it descending into petty grievances. The Harte sky comment was made in jest, it didn't need to rise such a f**king reaction.

Do me a favour, I don't know this Donegal team that well, who'll mark Richie and Conor Mc aliskey on Sunday in your opinion? Will Murphy spend long periods in full forward or drift in and out as usual? Does anybody in Donegal rate Patton? I watched back a bit from Tyrone Donegal in the league. Jesus he was easy beat with a shot.

Murphy will flit in and out. I can tell you that. McGee will pick up Richie, Paddy McGrath on Skeet.

What he said...

Plus, on Patton, I'm not a Donegal resident these days, but I've read and heard only good things about Patton. As far as I can tell he is doing very well for first year at senior inter county level, has made a number of excellent saves, and his kick outs have been, overall, excellent, and a big upgrade on McGinley (kick outs were a massive problem for us the past two seasons). He struggled a bit against Dublin with their press, but I wouldn't hold that against him too much, and I doubt many at home would.

We are in bonus territory here, IMO, given the relative inexperience of the team, Patton included. A win on Sunday would far exceed any realistic expectations we had coming into the season, which is partly what puzzles me about those who have been dismissing Bonner as a manager on this thread.
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: BennyHarp on August 01, 2018, 07:31:39 PM
I thought I'd stumbled on a Division 4 football thread such is the activity of the Derry lads. Reading comments by posters from the smaller footballing counties on the Super 8s is almost as annoying as the likes of those smug Carlow club hurlers trying to tell us hurling is the best sport in the world.
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: Redhand Santa on August 02, 2018, 10:48:59 AM
Despite what a few others have said I think this has the potential to be a very good game. I'm sure scores will be hard to come by but you wouldn't want it any other way in such an important game. I think both teams have moved on a bit from ultra defensive stuff in recent years to a more balanced game. This will lead to much more contested kickout's. Both teams will drop back without the ball but they will also go forward in numbers. They've both scored heavily this year and with a decent day I'm optimistic it won't be too low scoring.

Hard to beat a knockout all Ireland quarter final in a provincial venue between two huge rivals, should be a fantastic atmosphere. Only downside is the way the tickets have been organised. Hopefully all the loyal supporters are taken care off.

This would be a very significant win for this current Tyrone team who have come up short in a lot of big games. I really hope we push on this Sunday and produce the kind of quality performance the team is capable off. If they play to their potential I'd be confident of getting the victory. It's going to take a huge performance with controlled aggression and calm heads to do it.
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: trileacman on August 02, 2018, 01:41:42 PM
To add an extra level of intrigue the GAA have announced that whichever county loses the match will be formally acknowledged by congress to have created the blanket defence and will henceforth be blamed every time there's a shit game.
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: Fuzzman on August 02, 2018, 02:12:30 PM
You're not the worst J70 but you always make me laugh when you always go for the cute hoorism approach.
Ye very rarely say you think they will win and again say you're in bonus territory. So let me ask you do you think ye will win and if so why? Where can you see the game being lost and won?

Re the other "whinging stuff" you mentioned then I know you don't get back for many games these days but my point was that Ballybofey has become quite fortress for ye since yer second coming with McGuinness.
I don't have you been to any of the Tyrone games there over the past 5 years or so but all Im saying is the atmosphere is toxic and there is a lot of animosity built up now between the teams.

"Look it"  :o, we know what other counties think of Tyrone and the media play on that to some extent but I hope RH Santa is correct that it will be a very controlled aggression on Sunday with Mickey already very conscious of the massive frees conceded we have this year of 26% as per today's Gaelic Life. Monaghan are top with 41% and Donegal 18th with 29%. Some would argue that's biased refs and some would say its the way we tackle or get so many men around the man on the ball.
Interestingly they also have a table on the best attacking teams with Dubs No 1 avg score 21.77 and Tyrone second on 19.43. Donegal are 4th on 18.85.

I think I have underestimated the importance of this match when it first came out, as in this is the first time a match between two neighbours of similar styles and levels will meet in a home venue in August for a place in the AI semifinal. That in itself is huge, when you think what the first round Ulster games are like.

As we know Tyrone hammered Donegal last year with both McBrearty and Murphy on but was that just a once off? Did they have a bad day at the office? Will that motivate them more for this Sunday as revenge this time means proving that they are indeed worthy of being called Ulster champions and that they were not just handed an easy Ulster, like we were last year.

I think Tyrone will take a lot of positives from the way they played v Dublin and will give them great confidence that they are not that far away from the top table. My biggest concern is that in previous years, we have had several chances to take crucial scores and we've missed them or not gotten a penalty etc.
We need to stop those happening so often. I would not be at all surprised to see Mickey throw Lee Brennan in from the start as it could cause a bit of panic and create more room for Richie.

A lot of people seem to be tipping Tyrone all week despite the home advantage and that will motivate Donegal even more. Personally I think its going to be one hell of a tight game with whoever getting the first goal then going on to win it as the other team will then have to chase the game and so leave more holes behind themselves.

Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: tonto1888 on August 02, 2018, 04:34:48 PM
Mattie Donnelly out?
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: omagh_gael on August 02, 2018, 04:54:49 PM
Quote from: tonto1888 on August 02, 2018, 04:34:48 PM
Mattie Donnelly out?

Source?

Edit: just seen this Brian McGuigan's Twitter. Strange to see him break the story (can't see it anywhere else). On the surface it appears to be a big loss but we've serious cover for him in that area. Kieran McGeary to fill his boots on Sunday?
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: J70 on August 02, 2018, 04:59:10 PM
Quote from: Fuzzman on August 02, 2018, 02:12:30 PM
You're not the worst J70 but you always make me laugh when you always go for the cute hoorism approach.
Ye very rarely say you think they will win and again say you're in bonus territory. So let me ask you do you think ye will win and if so why? Where can you see the game being lost and won?

Re the other "whinging stuff" you mentioned then I know you don't get back for many games these days but my point was that Ballybofey has become quite fortress for ye since yer second coming with McGuinness.
I don't have you been to any of the Tyrone games there over the past 5 years or so but all Im saying is the atmosphere is toxic and there is a lot of animosity built up now between the teams.

"Look it"  :o, we know what other counties think of Tyrone and the media play on that to some extent but I hope RH Santa is correct that it will be a very controlled aggression on Sunday with Mickey already very conscious of the massive frees conceded we have this year of 26% as per today's Gaelic Life. Monaghan are top with 41% and Donegal 18th with 29%. Some would argue that's biased refs and some would say its the way we tackle or get so many men around the man on the ball.
Interestingly they also have a table on the best attacking teams with Dubs No 1 avg score 21.77 and Tyrone second on 19.43. Donegal are 4th on 18.85.

I think I have underestimated the importance of this match when it first came out, as in this is the first time a match between two neighbours of similar styles and levels will meet in a home venue in August for a place in the AI semifinal. That in itself is huge, when you think what the first round Ulster games are like.

As we know Tyrone hammered Donegal last year with both McBrearty and Murphy on but was that just a once off? Did they have a bad day at the office? Will that motivate them more for this Sunday as revenge this time means proving that they are indeed worthy of being called Ulster champions and that they were not just handed an easy Ulster, like we were last year.

I think Tyrone will take a lot of positives from the way they played v Dublin and will give them great confidence that they are not that far away from the top table. My biggest concern is that in previous years, we have had several chances to take crucial scores and we've missed them or not gotten a penalty etc.
We need to stop those happening so often. I would not be at all surprised to see Mickey throw Lee Brennan in from the start as it could cause a bit of panic and create more room for Richie.

A lot of people seem to be tipping Tyrone all week despite the home advantage and that will motivate Donegal even more. Personally I think its going to be one hell of a tight game with whoever getting the first goal then going on to win it as the other team will then have to chase the game and so leave more holes behind themselves.

Its not cute-hoorism at all though Fuzzman. If I thought we were favoured to win, I would say so. I did before the Ulster final this year, for example, albeit I didn't forsee it being as handy as it turned out to be. You lads hammered the shit out of us last year. We couldn't cope when you upped the pressure and pinned us back in that second quarter. On top of that, we, with a lot of inexperienced players and a new manager and system of play, have only a subdued Dublin (who fairly comfortably kept us at arm's length) to measure ourselves against in terms of top teams this year. I absolutely think we will give you a tough game (although I thought the same last year!), but I think Tyrone's waves of powerful runners will cause us enormous problems (we've been carved open plenty of times this season) and will ultimately see you run out winners with a few points to spare. As plenty have said, Murphy will likely be bottled up, and I think we will find scores much tougher to come by that your men. I think the kick outs will be vital, and the main hope for us winning would be to force Morgan to go long by pushing up and hopefully winning enough of the midfield battle to keep you on the back foot. But even if we do that, youse will likely have numbers back looking to strip the ball and break. Which is where McBrearty's absence could hurt us as he is well able to win early, competitive ball. So no poor-mouthing here at all. I just think your team is further along the road than we are and realistically are probably just a wee bit too good for us.
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: Fuzzman on August 02, 2018, 05:20:23 PM
Fair dinkum J70 and good summary there.

I'm fair scunnered that I can't be there as its only down the road from where I come from but I've never saw Tyrone win there so maybe it's good I cant make it. I'll be watching it in O'Neills in Oxford with my kids. I must pack their Tyrone shirts and not their Dubs wans.

I see the weather is to be hot but with showers on Sunday. It would be a pity of the rain made it into a lottery game. High balls into the FF line could cause havoc.
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: Fuzzman on August 02, 2018, 05:32:19 PM
Norf, don't be worrying about what people think of Cathal.
I noticed it last year too that loads of fans are just wanting him to fail so they can say they're first impression on him was right

He has 12 point this year all from play and has improved hugely on last year. He was unlucky with that ball through to him as he had to slow down for it to come into his hands and Mannion did very well to make such a clean tackle.

Cathal seems to believe in himself which is the main thing and I don't think its by chance he's started every game this year.
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: skeog on August 02, 2018, 06:34:01 PM
Cathal is a great lad on and off the pitch.
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: Therealdonald on August 02, 2018, 06:47:45 PM
Quote from: skeog on August 02, 2018, 06:34:01 PM
Cathal is a great lad on and off the pitch.

What's that got to do with anything?? If off the pitch came into it then there's 1 defender would never have played for Tyrone after 2009 or 2010. Clubmen take criticism of their own far too personally. It's just an opinion, don't think he's up to it and he's another case of Mickey trying to turn a player into something he's not. Cathal reminds me very much of Colly Cavanagh for his first 6 years with the county.
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: ONeill on August 02, 2018, 07:14:51 PM
A month ago I'd have fancied Donegal, in their own backyard, by 3-5 points.

Now I'm not so sure. When Tyrone build up a head of steam in the back door they are usually hard to overturn....mostly by the All-Ireland champs-to-be (apart from Mayo).
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: skeog on August 02, 2018, 07:22:25 PM
Is Matty out? Brian Mc Guigan says he is fake news?
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: sekibanki on August 02, 2018, 07:58:02 PM
Quote from: Fuzzman on August 02, 2018, 05:32:19 PM
Cathal seems to believe in himself which is the main thing and I don't think its by chance he's started every game this year.
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Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: greatpoint on August 02, 2018, 09:13:48 PM
Quote from: skeog on August 02, 2018, 07:22:25 PM
Is Matty out? Brian Mc Guigan says he is fake news?

After the nonsense already spouted by Harte, Mulligan, and McGinley this can hardly be more of the same?

Are Tyrone under pressure to win this because of Donegal's injuries and inexperience? They're certainly acting like it anyway.
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: Whitnail on August 02, 2018, 10:13:42 PM
Im happy with the way we play this year . I like what Declan is doing and i can safley say i enjoy watching us play (for a change). I think the overall skill level is and will keep improving . Guys are being allowed to improvise and kick the bloody ball instead of handpassing it up the field and if by consequence this means we are are lttle more lax in defending i personally dont care.
Looking at the possible line ups i think its fair to say Tyrone have a good bill of health and a few different options to cahnge things up whereas we are missing one or two big players but in fairness any number of guys can have a big game and step up.

Fermanagh did us a favour by beating Monaghan and we have had an unexpected canter through Ulster followed by a day out at croke park taht certainly didn't dent or damage us and that was a decent workout for this current squad , I think people want to see a good cleanly contested game and a decent advert for Ulster football but that all depends on how defensive managers want to get seeing the ocassion but that would be at odds with what either team is trying to achieve imo.

I used to care about jinxing results at that sort of nonsense but i no longer care about that sort of thing. I think we we still have a few more 'wise old heads' in our squad than the current Tyrone and there will be no lack of effort shown in Ballybofey and i think we will win by 1 or 2 points .
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: omagh_gael on August 02, 2018, 10:22:19 PM
Quote from: Whitnail on August 02, 2018, 10:13:42 PM
I think we we still have a few more 'wise old heads' in our squad than the current Tyrone and there will be no lack of effort shown in Ballybofey and i think we will win by 1 or 2 points .

Sickening arrogance.
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: omagh_gael on August 02, 2018, 10:41:19 PM
Tyrone name the same side that faced Dublin. Only change is Michael Cassidy named on bench in place of McNulty.

Mickey hasn't made too many changes to the named team this year although I can see some changes before throw in. Will be surprised to see McNamee start.
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: bigtogs on August 02, 2018, 10:50:52 PM
any of you guys on the Donegal border know if the Donegal clubs are in the Same position as Tyrone clubs ticket wise??
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: ONeill on August 02, 2018, 11:23:22 PM
The only thing is that apart from 1992 when it was a bad year...they've won fcuk all really without McGuinness.
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: omagh_gael on August 02, 2018, 11:33:48 PM
Quote from: bigtogs on August 02, 2018, 10:50:52 PM
any of you guys on the Donegal border know if the Donegal clubs are in the Same position as Tyrone clubs ticket wise??

Yeah, just been on twitter and the same issues for everyone. Surprised this hasn't got more media attention.

The big question is will Mickey start Bradley/Lee Brennan?
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: Therealdonald on August 02, 2018, 11:37:01 PM
Quote from: ONeill on August 02, 2018, 11:23:22 PM
The only thing is that apart from 1992 when it was a bad year...they've won fcuk all really without McGuinness.

You're surely on the wind up here? Only for the back door we would be sitting with 1 title. On shouldn't blow ones trumpet, when one hath no trumpet to blow.
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: donegal-lad on August 02, 2018, 11:53:52 PM
Quote from: omagh_gael on August 02, 2018, 11:33:48 PM
Quote from: bigtogs on August 02, 2018, 10:50:52 PM
any of you guys on the Donegal border know if the Donegal clubs are in the Same position as Tyrone clubs ticket wise??

Yeah, just been on twitter and the same issues for everyone. Surprised this hasn't got more media attention.

The big question is will Mickey start Bradley/Lee Brennan?

I cant get much closer to the tyrone border and know my own club didnt get anywhere near what they needed to meet demand by from what we seen tonight they were in a position to accommodate majority of club members.

Other clubs around here seem to be similar although was a story going about that club officials from a few clubs were seen in supervalue in ballybofey buying extra tickets, mad if its trye but wouldnt be the first time its happened
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: Fuzzman on August 03, 2018, 12:20:28 AM
TherealDonald, is what O'Neill said not accurate though.
I  wonder will Horse keep the head better this time.
HT tunnelgate is always fun
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: Therealdonald on August 03, 2018, 12:22:05 AM
Quote from: Fuzzman on August 03, 2018, 12:20:28 AM
TherealDonald, is what O'Neill said not accurate though.
I  wonder will Horse keep the head better this time.
HT tunnelgate is always fun

Bit disrespectful though, like saying take a 6 year period out of it in the 00's and what have Tyrone won?
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: omagh_gael on August 03, 2018, 12:40:22 AM
Gavin Devlin is wan cute hoor, he always manages to set up shop next to the TV mics on the side of the pitch so you hear every roar he lets out. Alternatively, he may have the loudest voice known to man.
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: ONeill on August 03, 2018, 07:52:21 AM
I know he practises shouting after training. That's how dedicated he is. A boy in Antrim town said he heard him one night the whole way across the Lough from Ardboe.
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: tonto1888 on August 03, 2018, 08:06:40 AM
Quote from: omagh_gael on August 02, 2018, 04:54:49 PM
Quote from: tonto1888 on August 02, 2018, 04:34:48 PM
Mattie Donnelly out?

Source?

Edit: just seen this Brian McGuigan's Twitter. Strange to see him break the story (can't see it anywhere else). On the surface it appears to be a big loss but we've serious cover for him in that area. Kieran McGeary to fill his boots on Sunday?

You may replace him but it's a shame he's missing as he is a player I enjoy watching
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: inthrough on August 03, 2018, 08:27:04 AM
Quote from: ONeill on August 02, 2018, 11:23:22 PM
The only thing is that apart from 1992 when it was a bad year...they've won fcuk all really without McGuinness.
Always good to see a man with a sense of humour....
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: sam03/05 on August 03, 2018, 10:34:26 AM
Great to see Michael Cassidy make the squad. One of the most talented players in the county.
Could play any position from corner back to corner forward. A superb two footed player.
Should be a starting every week ( but Harte takes too long to introduce talent / see Frank Burns (two years on bench and a standout at sigerson and u21 at the time/ Lee Brennan / Mark Bradley)
Cassidy has done a job on McHugh before at u21 level I'd love to see him get on.
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: omagh_gael on August 03, 2018, 11:32:11 AM
Quote from: ONeill on August 03, 2018, 07:52:21 AM
I know he practises shouting after training. That's how dedicated he is. A boy in Antrim town said he heard him one night the whole way across the Lough from Ardboe.

Maybe that's why they went for Garvaghey as the site for the training complex. At least he's only disturbing sheep and wind turbines up above Ballygawley. Wouldn't do if he was near civilised places like Lough muck or Aughabrack
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: nrico2006 on August 03, 2018, 02:13:17 PM
Quote from: Fuzzman on August 02, 2018, 05:32:19 PM
Norf, don't be worrying about what people think of Cathal.
I noticed it last year too that loads of fans are just wanting him to fail so they can say they're first impression on him was right

He has 12 point this year all from play and has improved hugely on last year. He was unlucky with that ball through to him as he had to slow down for it to come into his hands and Mannion did very well to make such a clean tackle.

Cathal seems to believe in himself which is the main thing and I don't think its by chance he's started every game this year.

McShane doing well this year, but from what I saw (didn't see a replay) it looked like he made a complete balls of that chance.  Maybe you are right though, because he is fast enough yet seemed to slow down before being dispossessed.
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: tyroneman on August 03, 2018, 03:27:21 PM
Quote from: nrico2006 on August 03, 2018, 02:13:17 PM
Quote from: Fuzzman on August 02, 2018, 05:32:19 PM
Norf, don't be worrying about what people think of Cathal.
I noticed it last year too that loads of fans are just wanting him to fail so they can say they're first impression on him was right

He has 12 point this year all from play and has improved hugely on last year. He was unlucky with that ball through to him as he had to slow down for it to come into his hands and Mannion did very well to make such a clean tackle.

Cathal seems to believe in himself which is the main thing and I don't think its by chance he's started every game this year.

McShane doing well this year, but from what I saw (didn't see a replay) it looked like he made a complete balls of that chance.  Maybe you are right though, because he is fast enough yet seemed to slow down before being dispossessed.

He made a balls of it from what I could see., although let the first man who has never made a balls of a goal chance step forward .......

He has been playing very well in fits and starts, certainly much better than last year and deserves his place at the minute.

He certainly didn't make a balls of that point v Meath.
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: nrico2006 on August 03, 2018, 04:55:11 PM
You would swear Donegal were the only team with injuries. Lee Brennan was top scorer in the league and his continued absence is a big loss for Tyrone.
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: Rois on August 03, 2018, 05:05:09 PM
Quote from: tyroneman on August 03, 2018, 03:27:21 PM
Quote from: nrico2006 on August 03, 2018, 02:13:17 PM
Quote from: Fuzzman on August 02, 2018, 05:32:19 PM
Norf, don't be worrying about what people think of Cathal.
I noticed it last year too that loads of fans are just wanting him to fail so they can say they're first impression on him was right

He has 12 point this year all from play and has improved hugely on last year. He was unlucky with that ball through to him as he had to slow down for it to come into his hands and Mannion did very well to make such a clean tackle.

Cathal seems to believe in himself which is the main thing and I don't think its by chance he's started every game this year.

McShane doing well this year, but from what I saw (didn't see a replay) it looked like he made a complete balls of that chance.  Maybe you are right though, because he is fast enough yet seemed to slow down before being dispossessed.

He made a balls of it from what I could see., although let the first man who has never made a balls of a goal chance step forward .......

He has been playing very well in fits and starts, certainly much better than last year and deserves his place at the minute.

He certainly didn't make a balls of that point v Meath.
He was on the deck being treated for a dodgy ankle two mins before that chance - may have still been feeling the effects.
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: omaghjoe on August 03, 2018, 07:31:35 PM
ON the other hand Lacey hair transplant is looking well now, looked awful when he got them done first.
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: nrico2006 on August 03, 2018, 08:17:23 PM
Quote from: Rois on August 03, 2018, 05:05:09 PM
Quote from: tyroneman on August 03, 2018, 03:27:21 PM
Quote from: nrico2006 on August 03, 2018, 02:13:17 PM
Quote from: Fuzzman on August 02, 2018, 05:32:19 PM
Norf, don't be worrying about what people think of Cathal.
I noticed it last year too that loads of fans are just wanting him to fail so they can say they're first impression on him was right

He has 12 point this year all from play and has improved hugely on last year. He was unlucky with that ball through to him as he had to slow down for it to come into his hands and Mannion did very well to make such a clean tackle.

Cathal seems to believe in himself which is the main thing and I don't think its by chance he's started every game this year.

McShane doing well this year, but from what I saw (didn't see a replay) it looked like he made a complete balls of that chance.  Maybe you are right though, because he is fast enough yet seemed to slow down before being dispossessed.

He made a balls of it from what I could see., although let the first man who has never made a balls of a goal chance step forward .......

He has been playing very well in fits and starts, certainly much better than last year and deserves his place at the minute.

He certainly didn't make a balls of that point v Meath.
He was on the deck being treated for a dodgy ankle two mins before that chance - may have still been feeling the effects.

Didn't realise that. You from Strabane or Glenmornan?
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: Jayop on August 03, 2018, 08:56:28 PM
Any and all podcasts/radio shows I listened to have Donegal picked to win this with the exception of yer man Conan on the GAA hour who called a draw.

Huge weight being put on the Ballybofey factor for all of them. It's kinda interesting how that's given so much importance despite our last game there being a few years ago but our wins over Donegal in 2015/16 are disregarded because this is a different Donegal team/manager. The previous wins Donegal had over us were 3 managers back so I don't really see the big issue.

I'd have Tyrone to win by 3.
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: omagh_gael on August 03, 2018, 09:03:33 PM
Agree Jayop, most media men going for a Donegal win. Only neutral Ive read so far far that's going for Tyrone is Tomas O'Se.
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: lenny on August 03, 2018, 09:06:01 PM
Quote from: nrico2006 on August 03, 2018, 04:55:11 PM
You would swear Donegal were the only team with injuries. Lee Brennan was top scorer in the league and his continued absence is a big loss for Tyrone.

Mcbrearty has been one of the best forwards in ireland for several seasons now. Harte hasn't rated brennan at all until finally giving him an opportunity this year. There is no guarantee he would be a starter if he was fit given harte's obvious misgivings about him. Gallagher is a huge loss also, he was heading for an all star, such was his form this season. With those 2 massive losses for donegal it makes this a 50/50 game. I wouldn't be surprised if it was a low scoring draw.
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: Jayop on August 03, 2018, 09:21:24 PM
Quote from: lenny on August 03, 2018, 09:06:01 PM
Quote from: nrico2006 on August 03, 2018, 04:55:11 PM
You would swear Donegal were the only team with injuries. Lee Brennan was top scorer in the league and his continued absence is a big loss for Tyrone.

Mcbrearty has been one of the best forwards in ireland for several seasons now. Harte hasn't rated brennan at all until finally giving him an opportunity this year. There is no guarantee he would be a starter if he was fit given harte's obvious misgivings about him. Gallagher is a huge loss also, he was heading for an all star, such was his form this season. With those 2 massive losses for donegal it makes this a 50/50 game. I wouldn't be surprised if it was a low scoring draw.

Brennan was the No1 forward on the team sheet and was even risked against Monaghan when clearly not fully fit so I think we can presume he would have continued to be that player. As for Harte not giving him more time in years gone by, he's still a very young and very small player.  Just because they're not being thrown in at the deep end doesn't mean they didn't rate him or had misgivings about him. To say Harte hasn't rated him at all is pure speculative nonsense based on nothing but shite.
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: Whitnail on August 03, 2018, 09:34:51 PM
Yea but if you read any articles on rte or bbc all the pundits tip tyrone.......specically theyre running counter attacking
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: J70 on August 03, 2018, 10:12:51 PM
Quote from: Jayop on August 03, 2018, 08:56:28 PM
Any and all podcasts/radio shows I listened to have Donegal picked to win this with the exception of yer man Conan on the GAA hour who called a draw.

Huge weight being put on the Ballybofey factor for all of them. It's kinda interesting how that's given so much importance despite our last game there being a few years ago but our wins over Donegal in 2015/16 are disregarded because this is a different Donegal team/manager. The previous wins Donegal had over us were 3 managers back so I don't really see the big issue.

I'd have Tyrone to win by 3.

Why do you care who the pundits are picking?
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: Rois on August 03, 2018, 10:16:08 PM
Quote from: nrico2006 on August 03, 2018, 08:17:23 PM
Quote from: Rois on August 03, 2018, 05:05:09 PM
He was on the deck being treated for a dodgy ankle two mins before that chance - may have still been feeling the effects.

Didn't realise that. You from Strabane or Glenmornan?
Neither. Ballymagorry  ;D But we talked about it at the time because my (71 year old) father brought it up, and he's a harsh enough critic, and if he makes excuses then I generally listen to him. If you went to St Colman's between 1970 and 2000 you'll know what I mean.
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: omagh_gael on August 03, 2018, 10:21:28 PM
Having a nosey round YouTube and came across this...

https://youtu.be/MBousEYODF8

The Ulster GAA Facebook page used to do an alternative angle wrap up of all the best scores from the games. I always thought it was a great watch.

Having rewatched it again Sean's last point was a serious effort. He took some hits before he got the shot away.
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: RedHand88 on August 03, 2018, 10:31:07 PM
Quote from: lenny on August 03, 2018, 09:06:01 PM
Quote from: nrico2006 on August 03, 2018, 04:55:11 PM
You would swear Donegal were the only team with injuries. Lee Brennan was top scorer in the league and his continued absence is a big loss for Tyrone.

Mcbrearty has been one of the best forwards in ireland for several seasons now. Harte hasn't rated brennan at all until finally giving him an opportunity this year. There is no guarantee he would be a starter if he was fit given harte's obvious misgivings about him. Gallagher is a huge loss also, he was heading for an all star, such was his form this season. With those 2 massive losses for donegal it makes this a 50/50 game. I wouldn't be surprised if it was a low scoring draw.

I'd take that now
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: Jayop on August 03, 2018, 10:32:44 PM
Quote from: J70 on August 03, 2018, 10:12:51 PM
Quote from: Jayop on August 03, 2018, 08:56:28 PM
Any and all podcasts/radio shows I listened to have Donegal picked to win this with the exception of yer man Conan on the GAA hour who called a draw.

Huge weight being put on the Ballybofey factor for all of them. It's kinda interesting how that's given so much importance despite our last game there being a few years ago but our wins over Donegal in 2015/16 are disregarded because this is a different Donegal team/manager. The previous wins Donegal had over us were 3 managers back so I don't really see the big issue.

I'd have Tyrone to win by 3.

Why do you care who the pundits are picking?

Not sure how you garnered that I care from what I said. It's a discussion forum and I thought it was interesting that so much weight was being put on the Ballybofey factor. They can predict who they want.
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: Jayop on August 04, 2018, 03:31:32 AM
Eamon McGee is a legend on twitter. Well worth a follow for anyone who doesn't already.

Could only really chat about one thing in @IrishStarSport tomorrow. Donegal/Tyrone and how it brought out the inner dick head in us all.
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: skeog on August 04, 2018, 03:55:26 AM
Eamon is full of you know what.His 8 week ban for a certain type of abuse a few weeks ago sums him up perfectly.
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: omaghjoe on August 04, 2018, 04:56:13 AM
Quote from: skeog on August 04, 2018, 03:55:26 AM
Eamon is full of you know what.His 8 week ban for a certain type of abuse a few weeks ago sums him up perfectly.

Tell us more....
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: the goal was on on August 04, 2018, 10:34:40 AM
Agree, how lads like that get paper columns when they were complete arses when playing.
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: blewuporstuffed on August 04, 2018, 11:21:47 AM
Quote from: omagh_gael on August 03, 2018, 10:21:28 PM
Having a nosey round YouTube and came across this...

https://youtu.be/MBousEYODF8

The Ulster GAA Facebook page used to do an alternative angle wrap up of all the best scores from the games. I always thought it was a great watch.

Having rewatched it again Sean's last point was a serious effort. He took some hits before he got the shot away.

The quality of scores in that game was incredible.
Some display of long range point kicking
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: ONeill on August 04, 2018, 08:09:23 PM
Quote from: blewuporstuffed on August 04, 2018, 11:21:47 AM
Quote from: omagh_gael on August 03, 2018, 10:21:28 PM
Having a nosey round YouTube and came across this...

https://youtu.be/MBousEYODF8

The Ulster GAA Facebook page used to do an alternative angle wrap up of all the best scores from the games. I always thought it was a great watch.

Having rewatched it again Sean's last point was a serious effort. He took some hits before he got the shot away.

The quality of scores in that game was incredible.
Some display of long range point kicking

And for so many of the points you knew you were getting hit as soon as the ball left your boot.
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: SouthDublinBro on August 04, 2018, 08:38:16 PM
The Monaghan boys will be praying for a Donegal win here.
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: inthrough on August 04, 2018, 08:44:28 PM
Quote from: Jayop on August 03, 2018, 08:56:28 PM
Any and all podcasts/radio shows I listened to have Donegal picked to win this with the exception of yer man Conan on the GAA hour who called a draw.

Huge weight being put on the Ballybofey factor for all of them. It's kinda interesting how that's given so much importance despite our last game there being a few years ago but our wins over Donegal in 2015/16 are disregarded because this is a different Donegal team/manager. The previous wins Donegal had over us were 3 managers back so I don't really see the big issue.

I'd have Tyrone to win by 3.
Tomas O Se also picked Tyrone on RTE & The Irish Times picked Tyrone as well
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: An Watcher on August 04, 2018, 08:59:05 PM
Monaghan winning has added a bit more spice to tomorrow's game, as if it needed any.

I'd be quietly confident of tyrone beating Monaghan next week if we can beat Donegal tomorrow.  Similarly, I'd be backing Monaghan to beat Donegal if they get through. 
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: Wildweasel74 on August 04, 2018, 09:02:36 PM
Monaghan beat either of the two of you to be honest!
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: tyroneman on August 04, 2018, 09:20:45 PM
Think I might have a spare terrace ticket for tomorrow. PM me if anyone wants it...face value.
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: tyroneman on August 04, 2018, 10:41:35 PM
Quote from: tyroneman on August 04, 2018, 09:20:45 PM
Think I might have a spare terrace ticket for tomorrow. PM me if anyone wants it...face value.

Jaysus....thought there was a clamour for tickets...clearly not.
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: Captain Obvious on August 04, 2018, 10:59:37 PM
Quote from: An Watcher on August 04, 2018, 08:59:05 PM
Monaghan winning has added a bit more spice to tomorrow's game, as if it needed any.

I'd be quietly confident of tyrone beating Monaghan next week if we can beat Donegal tomorrow.  Similarly, I'd be backing Monaghan to beat Donegal if they get through.

So you think Tyrone will beat Monaghan but don't think Donegal will be able to beat Monaghan if they are good enough to beat Tyrone hmmm.
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: Aaron Boone on August 04, 2018, 11:34:04 PM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on August 04, 2018, 10:59:37 PM
Quote from: An Watcher on August 04, 2018, 08:59:05 PM
Monaghan winning has added a bit more spice to tomorrow's game, as if it needed any.

I'd be quietly confident of tyrone beating Monaghan next week if we can beat Donegal tomorrow.  Similarly, I'd be backing Monaghan to beat Donegal if they get through.

So you think Tyrone will beat Monaghan but don't think Donegal will be able to beat Monaghan if they are good enough to beat Tyrone hmmm.
Ulster sub-plots. Monaghan give Donegal a rattle no matter the current formline at the time.
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: An Watcher on August 05, 2018, 07:29:18 AM
Exactly oblivious, I'd say the majority of Monaghan fans would prefer a Donegal victory today
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: straightred on August 05, 2018, 07:41:09 AM
Quote from: An Watcher on August 05, 2018, 07:29:18 AM
Exactly oblivious, I'd say the majority of Monaghan fans would prefer a Donegal victory today

Monaghan will be riding high after last night and will give either of them their fill of it. Same can be said about whoever comes through today - will they come through unscathed though ?
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: charlieTully on August 05, 2018, 08:33:05 AM
Would anyone know a bar in portstewart that will be showing the match?
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: cjx on August 05, 2018, 10:36:35 AM
Protstewart 😳? Worth the 30-40 miles to Sambo McNaughten's in Cushendall
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: quit yo jibbajabba on August 05, 2018, 10:42:50 AM
From a previous post id say Shenanigans or Anchor be your best bet, both v close to each other on the Strand
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: Ty4Sam on August 05, 2018, 10:43:39 AM
Quote from: charlieTully on August 05, 2018, 08:33:05 AM
Would anyone know a bar in portstewart that will be showing the match?

I would have thought the Anchor or Shenanigans would definitely show it
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: Main Street on August 05, 2018, 10:59:48 AM
Quote from: An Watcher on August 05, 2018, 07:29:18 AM
Exactly oblivious, I'd say the majority of Monaghan fans would prefer a Donegal victory today
From a Monaghan perspective does it matter who wins out today?  It's tweedledum v tweedledee  competing for the last semi final spot in Croke Park next week, where in any case  today's winner's path to glory will be rendered nugatory.

I'm swaying slightly towards Donegal now  and guessing that Murphy will put in a towering herculean performance.
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: tyroneman on August 05, 2018, 11:13:51 AM
Have another ticket available this morning if anyone needs one...PM me. Same thing..face value, terrace.
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: charlieTully on August 05, 2018, 11:40:48 AM
Quote from: quit yo jibbajabba on August 05, 2018, 10:42:50 AM
From a previous post id say Shenanigans or Anchor be your best bet, both v close to each other on the Strand

Thanks all
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: NotedObserver on August 05, 2018, 11:46:20 AM
Hello 👋 be interested in any north terrace tickets
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: clarshack on August 05, 2018, 03:58:34 PM
Double bounce for donegal's 4th point. Very poor refereeing.
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: Wildweasel74 on August 05, 2018, 03:59:40 PM
Its all gone quite on here! Poor enough game to be honest! Literally hard to watch!
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: Harold Disgracey on August 05, 2018, 04:01:00 PM
McCann play acting? Never.

Very hard to watch compared to the hurling.
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: OgraAnDun on August 05, 2018, 04:03:00 PM
The booing and jeering of both teams' freetakers is in bad form.
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: bennydorano on August 05, 2018, 04:03:19 PM
Spiteful game, hard to referee but McQuillian is a dose as well.
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: clarshack on August 05, 2018, 04:03:33 PM
Like I've said before Tyrone haven't had a reliable free taker since Canavan.
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: Over the Bar on August 05, 2018, 04:04:28 PM
How did McHugh not get a black card for the foul on Cavanagh?
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: clarshack on August 05, 2018, 04:04:47 PM
Mcquillan definitely favouring Donegal here
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: Wildweasel74 on August 05, 2018, 04:06:13 PM
The hurling was a poor game the day with serious wides, and its stil 4 times the game this one is!
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on August 05, 2018, 04:07:59 PM
That short kick out worked well anyway.
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: Wildweasel74 on August 05, 2018, 04:08:49 PM
Giving a ball to the full bck with a man beside him; go figure
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: Over the Bar on August 05, 2018, 04:09:27 PM
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on August 05, 2018, 04:08:49 PM
Giving a ball to the full bck with a man beside him; go figure

Dumb as f**k
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: screenexile on August 05, 2018, 04:10:16 PM
Defender waiting on it as well...
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: square_ball on August 05, 2018, 04:11:53 PM
Quote from: screenexile on August 05, 2018, 04:10:16 PM
Defender waiting on it as well...

Equal blame to both imo. Though Morgan will get majority of the blame just because it's Morgan.
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: glens73 on August 05, 2018, 04:12:28 PM
Dessie Dolan "Mickey Harte, I suppose he's an experienced manager" "Donegal have taken the incentive"
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: square_ball on August 05, 2018, 04:13:43 PM
Quote from: glens73 on August 05, 2018, 04:12:28 PM
Dessie Dolan "Mickey Harte, I suppose he's an experienced manager" "Donegal have taken the incentive"

Dessie loves the experience line. 'A man of that experience shouldn't be missing that' is a regular line he trots out.
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: Wildweasel74 on August 05, 2018, 04:15:53 PM
Goalkeeper should never be kicking a ball to fullbck in that location; was he even expecting it!
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: Carmen Stateside on August 05, 2018, 04:16:05 PM
Aye its the defenders fault   ::) Is Morgans eyes painted on? Im in New York and could see the forward in close proximity to the defender! Has always been a liability!
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: Jayop on August 05, 2018, 04:17:06 PM
Was a shocking kick pass but how mchugh is still on the field is beyond me. Couldn't wait to give McKiernan the black bit nothing for the foot trip. I remember McShane getting black for the exact same thing in the ulster final two years ago.
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: omaghjoe on August 05, 2018, 04:17:52 PM
McQuillan a total farce, as well as giving Donegal everything he makes it all about himself
Donegal's surprise at a yellow card for a a face high tackle on McCann sums up were he is at for this match

The first thing that needs done to sort out football is referees, always has been for about the past 20 years
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: square_ball on August 05, 2018, 04:18:54 PM
Quote from: Carmen Stateside on August 05, 2018, 04:16:05 PM
Aye its the defenders fault   ::) Is Morgans eyes painted on? Im in New York and could see the forward in close proximity to the defender! Has always been a liability!

Is there a more criticised keeper in the country?

Always a liability? Wise up.
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: Jayop on August 05, 2018, 04:23:01 PM
Also the neck tackle needs to be stamped out. The black has resulted in that being to go to way of stopping someone because its only a yellow card but it's equally cynical and far more dangerous.
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: Wildweasel74 on August 05, 2018, 04:23:58 PM
Donnelly high tackle was a more dangerous one than the one on McCann; replay show him been hit at high chest level; not neck or head unlike Donnellys!
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: maigheo on August 05, 2018, 04:25:34 PM
Quote from: square_ball on August 05, 2018, 04:13:43 PM
Quote from: glens73 on August 05, 2018, 04:12:28 PM
Dessie Dolan "Mickey Harte, I suppose he's an experienced manager" "Donegal have taken the incentive"

Dessie loves the experience line. 'A man of that experience shouldn't be missing that' is a regular line he trots out.
Listening to Dessie after Brendan Cummins in the hurling is agony.Totally incompetent
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: screenexile on August 05, 2018, 04:28:50 PM
Dessie Dolan is brutal although to be fair to him it's a pretty brutal game!
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: Wildweasel74 on August 05, 2018, 04:29:29 PM
Watching this after the hurling is agony!
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: J70 on August 05, 2018, 04:30:46 PM
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on August 05, 2018, 04:29:29 PM
Watching this after the hurling is agony!

Didn't watch the hurling, but this is grim all right! Can't say it's enjoyable.
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: Wildweasel74 on August 05, 2018, 04:31:22 PM
Tyrone luckly McBearty is injured or i could only see one winner here@
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: Wildweasel74 on August 05, 2018, 04:33:35 PM
M Donnelly on McHugh; hows that going to work; Donnelly hasnt the pace for him
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: Jinxy on August 05, 2018, 04:41:12 PM
Which foot does Jamie Brennan kick with?
He snatches at so many of his shots.
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: J70 on August 05, 2018, 04:44:04 PM
MacNiallais, walk away FFS. Don't let Cavanagh drag you into a card.
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: J70 on August 05, 2018, 04:46:12 PM
Poor wides for both sides.
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: Wildweasel74 on August 05, 2018, 04:47:57 PM
Cavanagh should be off; how ref let him go for a black there is as bad as McHugh in the first half!
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: J70 on August 05, 2018, 04:49:48 PM
Lee Brennan should have started
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: yellowcard on August 05, 2018, 04:52:35 PM
I wonder will Micky Harte retire after this match
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: Wildweasel74 on August 05, 2018, 04:55:38 PM
Tyrone still there yet; they only need a draw
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: J70 on August 05, 2018, 04:56:36 PM
Yep, long way to go yet. Brennan could get in for a Tyrone goal too.
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: Jinxy on August 05, 2018, 04:57:10 PM
MacNiallais taken out of the game.
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: yellowcard on August 05, 2018, 05:01:00 PM
The margins are so fine. The winner has a good opportunity to get to an AI final while the loser is gone. It's down to a game of nerve now.
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: yellowcard on August 05, 2018, 05:02:12 PM
Harte on the verge of the sack 10 minutes ago now he's on the verge of AI final appearance!
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: Wildweasel74 on August 05, 2018, 05:02:37 PM
And Tyrone hit the front; Cavanagh not getting a black after a yellow a big say in this game along with Murphy missing 2 45!
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: J70 on August 05, 2018, 05:03:36 PM
We are pissing it away
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: clarshack on August 05, 2018, 05:04:44 PM
Harry Loughran some man for getting goals!
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: square_ball on August 05, 2018, 05:05:11 PM
Morgan's kickouts have been excellent in the 2nd half.
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: Wildweasel74 on August 05, 2018, 05:05:26 PM
Donegal in control for so long have throw it away in the past 15mins!
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: our_fella on August 05, 2018, 05:06:13 PM
Sludden got hit top of chest if at best... Goes down holding his face, looks at ref then rolls about again. Disgusting
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: J70 on August 05, 2018, 05:09:03 PM
Donegal are done. No one showing at all. Tyrone first to everything.
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: Jinxy on August 05, 2018, 05:09:26 PM
What was going on with the Tyrone bench there?
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: David McKeown on August 05, 2018, 05:09:36 PM
Was the goal not square ball?
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: Wildweasel74 on August 05, 2018, 05:10:40 PM
Tyrone got the game in the bag, all the subs made all the difference. 7 mins of injury time? Quite alot
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: mrdeeds on August 05, 2018, 05:12:41 PM
Quote from: David McKeown on August 05, 2018, 05:09:36 PM
Was the goal not square ball?

Camera angle didn't show where he was on pass.
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: clarshack on August 05, 2018, 05:14:53 PM
Colm Cavanagh has been unreal
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: Jinxy on August 05, 2018, 05:15:00 PM
Donegal absolutely cream crackered for the last 15 minutes.
Need to focus on aerobic conditioning next year.
They are plenty big enough as it is.
Less weights, more running.
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: Wildweasel74 on August 05, 2018, 05:15:12 PM
Wasnt a pass; McCann was going for a point
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: Delegater on August 05, 2018, 05:16:20 PM
Who was the clown that said Cavanagh was done?

Derry wans are hurting more than Donegal.
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: lenny on August 05, 2018, 05:16:34 PM
Quote from: our_fella on August 05, 2018, 05:06:13 PM
Sludden got hit top of chest if at best... Goes down holding his face, looks at ref then rolls about again. Disgusting

They're all at it, it's a tactic. Ref has been a disgrace. Mattie donnelly has it down to an art form along with t mccann. How colm cavanagh has got staying on the pitch with his cynicism is unbelievable.
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: mrdeeds on August 05, 2018, 05:18:43 PM
Quote from: Delegater on August 05, 2018, 05:16:20 PM
Who was the clown that said Cavanagh was done?

Derry wans are hurting more than Donegal.

Ok from when he fisted it. Still can't tell if player in square or not.
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: Aughafad on August 05, 2018, 05:19:22 PM
Joe mcquillan should never be allowed near a gaa pitch again
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: gallsman on August 05, 2018, 05:20:59 PM
Bradley and Brennan to start next week?
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: StephenC on August 05, 2018, 05:21:05 PM
Well done Tyrone. Deserved victors. Your bench was the difference I thought. 1-05 I think. Can only imagine the atmosphere there. Our lads have exceeded all expectations for the year and will surely (hopefully) learn from today.

Best of luck to both Ulster teams left. Would be great to see Sam come north.
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: sligoman2 on August 05, 2018, 05:22:12 PM
What a load of rubbish.
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: square_ball on August 05, 2018, 05:22:43 PM
Quote from: gallsman on August 05, 2018, 05:20:59 PM
Bradley and Brennan to start next week?

And McGeary has to start. Been outstanding the past 2 games.
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: Carmen Stateside on August 05, 2018, 05:24:06 PM
What a super Second half from tyrone. Fair play to harte, changes made all the difference. Cavanagh mattie and mc namee were brilliant along with all the subs.
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: johnpower on August 05, 2018, 05:24:31 PM
Big win for Tyrone , Tyrone subs made a huge impact
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: gallsman on August 05, 2018, 05:25:27 PM
Dolan was on about Bradley's little dummies on commentary but Brennan's aren't too far behind. Like ankle breakers in basketball.
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: J70 on August 05, 2018, 05:25:37 PM
Indeed. Greater depth, more experience told in the end. We missed a few chances at vital times and started running into the Tyrone wall, but that's the way it goes. Don't think we could ask for any more from our lads. It's been a very promising year. Looking forward to next year already!
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: Jinxy on August 05, 2018, 05:25:56 PM
Joanne is great.
Not having the easy, simplistic analysis of Tyrone throwing caution to the wind and going for the win.
Superior fitness & superior bench were the difference.
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: square_ball on August 05, 2018, 05:27:36 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on August 05, 2018, 05:25:56 PM
Joanne is great.
Not having the easy, simplistic analysis of Tyrone throwing caution to the wind and going for the win.
Superior fitness & superior bench were the difference.

Aye Michael Lyster is a yes man and would just be nodding along with what they are saying. Joanne Cantwell challenges the crap Brolly and co spout.
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: tyrone08 on August 05, 2018, 05:33:25 PM
Joe mcquillan was a complete joke today. Never seen a more 1 sided display  in my life. Even the commentators asked how Donegal got a free at the end when colm was fouled.
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: WT4E on August 05, 2018, 05:47:04 PM
Quote from: Delegater on August 05, 2018, 05:16:20 PM
Who was the clown that said Cavanagh was done?

Derry wans are hurting more than Donegal.

Me - soz long live colm
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: RedHand88 on August 05, 2018, 05:57:50 PM
Brilliant. Absolutely brilliant.
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: SkillfulBill on August 05, 2018, 06:03:21 PM
Tyrone where poison in the first half but when Brennan and McGeary came in the game turned. Outstanding  second half performances from Colm Kav.Peter Harte. Brennan and McGeary an in fairness Morgan's kick outs were excellent despite the obvious balls up. Overall a huge last 20 mins won it. I hope the go after Monaghan from the start.
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: Owen Brannigan on August 05, 2018, 06:12:46 PM
Huge performance from McQuillan, they couldn't have done it without him ignoring fouls that would have led to players being sent off.
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: RedHand88 on August 05, 2018, 06:20:23 PM
Quote from: Owen Brannigan on August 05, 2018, 06:12:46 PM
Huge performance from McQuillan, they couldn't have done it without him ignoring fouls that would have led to players being sent off.

Donegal literally scored after a double bounce. You're lucky it wasn't close in the end up or HQ would have had a real problem on their hands.
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: J70 on August 05, 2018, 06:21:12 PM
Quote from: tyrone08 on August 05, 2018, 05:33:25 PM
Joe mcquillan was a complete joke today. Never seen a more 1 sided display  in my life. Even the commentators asked how Donegal got a free at the end when colm was fouled.

Are you on the fuckin' windup?

First post and all!
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: SkillfulBill on August 05, 2018, 06:22:57 PM
Quote from: Owen Brannigan on August 05, 2018, 06:12:46 PM
Huge performance from McQuillan, they couldn't have done it without him ignoring fouls that would have led to players being sent off.

Yes you are right there McHugh should most definitely have been black carded before putting Murphy through for the goal....Catch a grip McQuillan is a poor ref. but to suggest he favoured Tyrone is laughable.
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: J70 on August 05, 2018, 06:23:17 PM
Quote from: RedHand88 on August 05, 2018, 06:20:23 PM
Quote from: Owen Brannigan on August 05, 2018, 06:12:46 PM
Huge performance from McQuillan, they couldn't have done it without him ignoring fouls that would have led to players being sent off.

Donegal literally scored after a double bounce. You're lucky it wasn't close in the end up or HQ would have had a real problem on their hands.

Since when has HQ taken action after games for a missed double bounce?? ::)
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: yellowcard on August 05, 2018, 06:23:23 PM
Tedious game to watch and I expect that Tyrone v Monaghan will be more of the same. Meyler will be a big blow for Tyrone and unless they thwart Beggans kick outs, I think Monaghan have a bit too much quality up front for them.
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: J70 on August 05, 2018, 06:26:04 PM
Quote from: SkillfulBill on August 05, 2018, 06:22:57 PM
Quote from: Owen Brannigan on August 05, 2018, 06:12:46 PM
Huge performance from McQuillan, they couldn't have done it without him ignoring fouls that would have led to players being sent off.

Yes you are right there McHugh should most definitely have bee black carded before putting Murphy through for the goal....Catch a grip McQuillan is a poor ref. but to suggest he favoured Tyrone is laughable.

There's eejits suggesting he favoured both sides. For McHugh, see Cavanagh. Like any ref in any game, he made questionable decisions, not helped by players dropping like they'd been shot. I don't think it favoured either team and definitely didn't affect the result.

Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: Wildweasel74 on August 05, 2018, 06:33:35 PM
Cavanagh def should seen a card when he took out a man not long after his first yellow but ref ignored as Donegal scored a point! Tyrone finished way stronger though, with Brennan at least starting the nxt day! I still haven't seen anything over the wkend to worry Dublin!
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: tyrone08 on August 05, 2018, 06:35:13 PM
Quote from: J70 on August 05, 2018, 06:21:12 PM
Quote from: tyrone08 on August 05, 2018, 05:33:25 PM
Joe mcquillan was a complete joke today. Never seen a more 1 sided display  in my life. Even the commentators asked how Donegal got a free at the end when colm was fouled.

Are you on the fuckin' windup?

First post and all!

Yes 1st post.....it happens when you post for the 1st time.

Mcquillian didn't black card McHugh which means Donegal wouldn't have scored the goal. He missed at least 1 if not 2 double hops which lead to scores. Last Donegal attach saw colm cavget fouled even commentators said it was a free out, mcquillian gave a free in. Please tell me what I have gotten wrong?
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: ONeill on August 05, 2018, 06:38:58 PM
That was as good a feeling in a long time. Humongous performance from Colm in the second half.
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: stringbean on August 05, 2018, 06:39:59 PM
Quote from: tyrone08 on August 05, 2018, 06:35:13 PM
Quote from: J70 on August 05, 2018, 06:21:12 PM
Quote from: tyrone08 on August 05, 2018, 05:33:25 PM
Joe mcquillan was a complete joke today. Never seen a more 1 sided display  in my life. Even the commentators asked how Donegal got a free at the end when colm was fouled.

Are you on the fuckin' windup?

First post and all!

Yes 1st post.....it happens when you post for the 1st time.

Mcquillian didn't black card McHugh which means Donegal wouldn't have scored the goal. He missed at least 1 if not 2 double hops which lead to scores. Last Donegal attach saw colm cavget fouled even commentators said it was a free out, mcquillian gave a free in. Please tell me what I have gotten wrong?

Your use of the English language?
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: J70 on August 05, 2018, 06:40:19 PM
Quote from: tyrone08 on August 05, 2018, 06:35:13 PM
Quote from: J70 on August 05, 2018, 06:21:12 PM
Quote from: tyrone08 on August 05, 2018, 05:33:25 PM
Joe mcquillan was a complete joke today. Never seen a more 1 sided display  in my life. Even the commentators asked how Donegal got a free at the end when colm was fouled.

Are you on the fuckin' windup?

First post and all!

Yes 1st post.....it happens when you post for the 1st time.

Mcquillian didn't black card McHugh which means Donegal wouldn't have scored the goal. He missed at least 1 if not 2 double hops which lead to scores. Last Donegal attach saw colm cavget fouled even commentators said it was a free out, mcquillian gave a free in. Please tell me what I have gotten wrong?

Cavanagh ( who had an enormous second half, and fair fucks to him) should have got black too. Donegal were not given a 20m free for a push in the back on Eoghan Ban which would have put us five points up, and there a few other questionable ones as well. That's the way it goes. But there's always fuckin gobshites on here who can't see past the end of their nose crying about referees, regardless of the circumstances. Not too many of them queuing up to do what is a very difficult job (with no replays available), however.
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: ONeill on August 05, 2018, 06:41:41 PM
Uncharacteristic misses from Murphy.
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: Throw ball on August 05, 2018, 06:45:08 PM
Quote from: tyrone08 on August 05, 2018, 06:35:13 PM
Quote from: J70 on August 05, 2018, 06:21:12 PM
Quote from: tyrone08 on August 05, 2018, 05:33:25 PM
Joe mcquillan was a complete joke today. Never seen a more 1 sided display  in my life. Even the commentators asked how Donegal got a free at the end when colm was fouled.

Are you on the fuckin' windup?

First post and all!

Yes 1st post.....it happens when you post for the 1st time.

Mcquillian didn't black card McHugh which means Donegal wouldn't have scored the goal. He missed at least 1 if not 2 double hops which lead to scores. Last Donegal attach saw colm cavget fouled even commentators said it was a free out, mcquillian gave a free in. Please tell me what I have gotten wrong?

Without wanting to get into a debate as some Tyrone ones don't do reason. In my opinion the tackle you refer to from McHugh was not a black card. It has to be a deliberate trip. I thought it was accidental as he dived to tackle the ball. Obviously the referee thought the same. In the end his opinion is the only one that matters. Cavanagh was lucky not to be sent off. He initiated an incident for which he got a yellow and shortly after could have been black carded. The referee obviously felt the 2 incidents were not worthy of red.

McQuillan is not a great referee in my opinion but he did ok today. With so much gamesmanship in football at the minute the referee has an impossible job.
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: Rois on August 05, 2018, 06:47:04 PM
Quote from: ONeill on August 05, 2018, 06:41:41 PM
Uncharacteristic misses from Murphy.
That's the fault of that long grass in Ballybofey.

P Harte my MoM in second half, superb.
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: Jim Bob on August 05, 2018, 06:47:20 PM
Quote from: Owen Brannigan on August 05, 2018, 06:12:46 PM
Huge performance from McQuillan, they couldn't have done it without him ignoring fouls that would have led to players being sent off.

Let me guess, you an Armagh man?
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: yellowcard on August 05, 2018, 06:51:28 PM
The histrionics and play acting was a joke today. Some of these Gaelic footballers should take a good look at themselves with the exaggeration and feigning injury. For a wannabe hard but Cavanagh does some amount of rolling on the turf but he's only one of many. Compared to the hurlingbthey are wimps.
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: tyrone08 on August 05, 2018, 06:52:27 PM
Quote from: Throw ball on August 05, 2018, 06:45:08 PM
Quote from: tyrone08 on August 05, 2018, 06:35:13 PM
Quote from: J70 on August 05, 2018, 06:21:12 PM
Quote from: tyrone08 on August 05, 2018, 05:33:25 PM
Joe mcquillan was a complete joke today. Never seen a more 1 sided display  in my life. Even the commentators asked how Donegal got a free at the end when colm was fouled.

Are you on the fuckin' windup?

First post and all!

Yes 1st post.....it happens when you post for the 1st time.

Mcquillian didn't black card McHugh which means Donegal wouldn't have scored the goal. He missed at least 1 if not 2 double hops which lead to scores. Last Donegal attach saw colm cavget fouled even commentators said it was a free out, mcquillian gave a free in. Please tell me what I have gotten wrong?

Without wanting to get into a debate as some Tyrone ones don't do reason. In my opinion the tackle you refer to from McHugh was not a black card. It has to be a deliberate trip. I thought it was accidental as he dived to tackle the ball. Obviously the referee thought the same. In the end his opinion is the only one that matters. Cavanagh was lucky not to be sent off. He initiated an incident for which he got a yellow and shortly after could have been black carded. The referee obviously felt the 2 incidents were not worthy of red.

McQuillan is not a great referee in my opinion but he did ok today. With so much gamesmanship in football at the minute the referee has an impossible job.

The linesmem highlighted it to the ref. They obviously thought it was a foul. I'm never said the ref wasnt poor to Donegal the difference was that his poor decisions from a Tyrone point of view led to Donegal scores. Colm should have been black carded but as it was a foul on McHugh I suspect the ref let him away as he knew McHugh should have been black carded in the 1st half.

It's bad when Joe and cooper are pointing out how bad the ref was after the match.
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: omagh_gael on August 05, 2018, 06:54:45 PM
Holy shiteballs that was good. McQuillan had a very poor game and was very harsh on us in the 1st half but we got away big time with Colm not getting black carded late in 2nd half. Over the course of the game neither team could say they got shafted, tbh.

The Tyrone conditioning is unreal, considering the run of games we've been on we had no right to be the team burning away in the last 15 yet that's what we did. Deadly, fecking deadly.

Finally, we can all have a cut off Mickey from time to time but by Jesus did he earn his corn today. That was some game management. He looked like the cat that got the cream at the end there, too.

Final point until later is on Lee Brennan. How good is it to see him cut loose? He has to start next day out and in that form I can see him giving Monaghan serious bother. Stick him and Bradley out on the wings and feed them ball low and in front and let them run like f**k towards the goal. They're totally wasted standing in round the square where theyve no room and marked by men with much bigger physiques.

Fair play to poaters like J70 etc. Always fair and balanced. With McBrearty back next year you will cause serious bother.
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: Wildweasel74 on August 05, 2018, 06:55:53 PM
Compare all the feigning of injury and attempts to get men carded compared to the toughness of hurlers who don't lie down unless actually hurt!
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: tyrone08 on August 05, 2018, 06:56:21 PM
Quote from: stringbean on August 05, 2018, 06:39:59 PM
Quote from: tyrone08 on August 05, 2018, 06:35:13 PM
Quote from: J70 on August 05, 2018, 06:21:12 PM
Quote from: tyrone08 on August 05, 2018, 05:33:25 PM
Joe mcquillan was a complete joke today. Never seen a more 1 sided display  in my life. Even the commentators asked how Donegal got a free at the end when colm was fouled.

Are you on the fuckin' windup?

First post and all!

Yes 1st post.....it happens when you post for the 1st time.

Mcquillian didn't black card McHugh which means Donegal wouldn't have scored the goal. He missed at least 1 if not 2 double hops which lead to scores. Last Donegal attach saw colm cavget fouled even commentators said it was a free out, mcquillian gave a free in. Please tell me what I have gotten wrong?

Your use of the English language?

Lol you know you have some one beat when they are correcting grammar. Bar a space I didn't puti n please enlighten me as to my mistakes.
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: dublin7 on August 05, 2018, 06:56:58 PM
Quote from: yellowcard on August 05, 2018, 06:51:28 PM
The histrionics and play acting was a joke today. Some of these Gaelic footballers should take a good look at themselves with the exaggeration and feigning injury. For a wannabe hard but Cavanagh does some amount of rolling on the turf but he's only one of many. Compared to the hurlingbthey are wimps.

Tyrone have been the masters of the dark arts for years. The Cavanagh brothers in particular have reached some serious lows in that department.

Having said that it's becoming just as common in hurling. A few Galway players went down like they'd been shot today after the slightest of touches to try and get players went off.

They've brought in suspensions for blatant diving in England for the football and it should be introduced here as well. The only problem with the GAA is enforcing the rule due to an antiquated and out of date rule book that sees so many clear suspensions overturned for farcicial/technical reasons
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: yellowcard on August 05, 2018, 06:57:57 PM
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on August 05, 2018, 06:55:53 PM
Compare all the feigning of injury and attempts to get men carded compared to the toughness of hurlers who don't lie down unless actually hurt!

Very true, it's a culture that is engrained in the game now and it's all teams that do it. It used to be the case that you would pretend that you weren't hurt even when you were in pain but that has long since disappeared.
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: Wildweasel74 on August 05, 2018, 07:01:19 PM
There was a time when M Lyons hit u, u hit him bck, now u just lie down!
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: Throw ball on August 05, 2018, 07:09:50 PM
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on August 05, 2018, 07:01:19 PM
There was a time when M Lyons hit u, u hit him bck, now u just lie down!

If Mick Lyons hit you someone else had to hit him back because you weren't fit too !
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: red hander on August 05, 2018, 07:12:03 PM
Quote from: dublin7 on August 05, 2018, 06:56:58 PM
Quote from: yellowcard on August 05, 2018, 06:51:28 PM
The histrionics and play acting was a joke today. Some of these Gaelic footballers should take a good look at themselves with the exaggeration and feigning injury. For a wannabe hard but Cavanagh does some amount of rolling on the turf but he's only one of many. Compared to the hurlingbthey are wimps.

Tyrone have been the masters of the dark arts for years. The Cavanagh brothers in particular have reached some serious lows in that department.

Having said that it's becoming just as common in hurling. A few Galway players went down like they'd been shot today after the slightest of touches to try and get players went off.

They've brought in suspensions for blatant diving in England for the football and it should be introduced here as well. The only problem with the GAA is enforcing the rule due to an antiquated and out of date rule book that sees so many clear suspensions overturned for farcicial/technical reasons

Did anybody get bitten?
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: Over the Bar on August 05, 2018, 07:24:49 PM
Enormous second half from Tyrone.  We must be doing something right when the Londonderry and Armagh bitches come on here start whining  Huge inferiority complexes from both. Brilliant to see them whine..... ;D ;D
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: WT4E on August 05, 2018, 07:30:51 PM
Didn't go to Ballybofey today due to the serious bad manners we received last day down their in the championship but I'd say the lads who did go really did enjoy it!!!!

Massive redemption for MOrgan - I was delighted for him after what happened that day and the abuse he got from the supporters - looks like he enjoyed it! :)
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: Jayop on August 05, 2018, 07:41:35 PM
McQuillin is simply awful. He rode Tyrone dry in the first half but in fairness we got the rub of the green a bit in the second. That free at the end for donegal was pure bizarre. I'd livewto know what he thinks he saw
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: trailer on August 05, 2018, 07:55:16 PM
Tyrone's fitness and bench got them over the line. Donegal had no answer in last 15. Felt Cavanagh was huge in the 2nd half, serious catch when Donegal lumped one into the square near the end. Lee Brennan is a serious baller. Great balance and feet. Harry Loughran just seems to score goals and what a crucial one it was. Tiernan McCann had a great game too.

McQuillan was just bad. Bad for both, indeed while Cavanagh could have walked, so could McHugh. Missed a lot of technical fouls too. His fitness lets him down.

Some feeling to have beaten Donegal in their own back yard.
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: cjx on August 05, 2018, 09:23:04 PM
Quote from: Aughafad on August 05, 2018, 05:19:22 PM
Joe mcquillan should never be allowed near a gaa pitch again
Now yer talking What a w@¥%er
5 Tyrone players clotheslined some not all yellow a series of stupid gormless panic decisions against both sides nearly wrecked a great game
but what about Lee Brennan?
The panic he spread and Peter Donnelly's work on conditioning physical
and mental won that with Brennan's drive, intelligence and free flowing skill.
All this DESPITE Mickey Harte! What is it with him and Lee The only thing I can think of
Is that Lee doesn't know the dickits of the Rosary off by heart! Nothing else could possbly
justify Lee's exclusion ( Maybe a word with Big Franny when he comes to Phoenix park or
Knock might be required? Like you know that Maradona fella?)
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: omaghjoe on August 05, 2018, 09:32:04 PM
Quote from: cjx on August 05, 2018, 09:23:04 PM
Quote from: Aughafad on August 05, 2018, 05:19:22 PM
Joe mcquillan should never be allowed near a gaa pitch again
Now yer talking What a w@¥%er
5 Tyrone players clotheslined some not all yellow a series of stupid gormless panic decisions against both sides nearly wrecked a great game
but what about Lee Brennan?
The panic he spread and Peter Donnelly's work on conditioning physical
and mental won that with Brennan's drive, intelligence and free flowing skill.
All this DESPITE Mickey Harte! What is it with him and Lee The only thing I can think of
Is that Lee doesn't know the dickits of the Rosary off by heart! Nothing else could possbly
justify Lee's exclusion ( Maybe a word with Big Franny when he comes to Phoenix park or
Knock might be required? Like you know that Maradona fella?)

Ehhhhhh... Brennan has been out with a hamstring for a couple of months
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: BennyHarp on August 05, 2018, 09:40:11 PM
Quote from: yellowcard on August 05, 2018, 04:52:35 PM
I wonder will Micky Harte retire after this match

Post of the year!!  ;D  ;D
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: cjx on August 05, 2018, 09:46:14 PM
Quote from: omaghjoe on August 05, 2018, 09:32:04 PM
Quote from: cjx on August 05, 2018, 09:23:04 PM
Quote from: Aughafad on August 05, 2018, 05:19:22 PM
Joe mcquillan should never be allowed near a gaa pitch again
Now yer talking What a w@¥%er
5 Tyrone players clotheslined some not all yellow a series of stupid gormless panic decisions against both sides nearly wrecked a great game
but what about Lee Brennan?
The panic he spread and Peter Donnelly's work on conditioning physical
and mental won that with Brennan's drive, intelligence and free flowing skill.
All this DESPITE Mickey Harte! What is it with him and Lee The only thing I can think of
Is that Lee doesn't know the dickits of the Rosary off by heart! Nothing else could possbly
justify Lee's exclusion ( Maybe a word with Big Franny when he comes to Phoenix park or
Knock might be required? Like you know that Maradona fella?)

Ehhhhhh... Brennan has been out with a hamstring for a couple of months

Brennan could have started against Dublin or at least came on early and
he should have started today and should have been a regular last season not just this one Again compared to soccer think Pele 1958

Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: trileacman on August 05, 2018, 09:46:57 PM
Whilst he was outstanding again today Lee is still not 70 minutes fit. He could clearly be seen sucking air after some of his runs and he's still nursing that hamstring a bit. I could be wrong but after his final point I thought you could see him carry a slight bit of a limp running  out.

I would dearly love him to able to start for Tyrone but the one injury you can't rush back with is a hamstring. Ask any player who has bother with theirs, lar or any of them. There's also a lot to be said for bringing him in late in the game when defenders tire and the game becomes a lot looser and he has full range to exploit them.

We badly miss his free-taking in the first 50 mins especially the left sided frees but I'm in no rush to see him starting. Inside forwards in the modern game are largely flogged for 50+ mins chasing back and working for the team, that's a poor use of lee's energy. Had he started today he'd have had to fulfil the role of sparky and spent most of his energy chasing players back and harassing the Donegal defence. Be careful what you wish for when it comes to Lee Brennan.
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: trileacman on August 05, 2018, 09:53:48 PM
Quote from: cjx on August 05, 2018, 09:23:04 PM
Quote from: Aughafad on August 05, 2018, 05:19:22 PM
Joe mcquillan should never be allowed near a gaa pitch again
Now yer talking What a w@¥%er
5 Tyrone players clotheslined some not all yellow a series of stupid gormless panic decisions against both sides nearly wrecked a great game
but what about Lee Brennan?
The panic he spread and Peter Donnelly's work on conditioning physical
and mental won that with Brennan's drive, intelligence and free flowing skill.
All this DESPITE Mickey Harte! What is it with him and Lee The only thing I can think of
Is that Lee doesn't know the dickits of the Rosary off by heart! Nothing else could possbly
justify Lee's exclusion ( Maybe a word with Big Franny when he comes to Phoenix park or
Knock might be required? Like you know that Maradona fella?)

f**k up both of ye.

Mc Quillan, like a lot of refs from the nineties, tries his damnedest to keep the trailing side in the game. In the first half that was Donegal and in the early 2nd it was Tyrone. He favoured neither side. Yes Mc Hugh could have walked but equally could have Colm. Petey got a free immediately after the goal that richy took quickly that was never a free at all. Quit complaining about the last Donegal free, game was over at that stage it had no affect on the outcome.

Can't beleive after a 7 point win in the Ballybofey cauldron lads are whining about the ref.
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: omaghjoe on August 05, 2018, 09:55:57 PM
Great win today altogether and all the sweeter to get it in Ballybofey

Thought we were the better team for the most part with a few purple patches for Donegal keeping them in touch, and of course assisted by a silly goal and McQuillian.

Obviously the subs won it for us. Great to see Brennan finally light up a championship game. The Donegal defence didnt know how to handle him. Cavanagh very good as well, he really lead from the front in the final quarter. Thought Hampsey came into well in the 2nd half as well as Harte after quiet enough championships.
Glad for Morgan too, to get that Ballybofey monkey of his, tho the goal was a right c**k up Im not sure it was soley his fault

Think we are in good shape for the Monaghan match, there's plenty of options all over the pitch and key players going well, we should have learned plenty from the Omagh match, should be a quare battle
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: BennyHarp on August 05, 2018, 10:01:21 PM
Not long back from the game and I must say it was one of the most enjoyable days I've had watching Tyrone. The last 20 mins was as good as anything we've produced in 10 years. It really seems that our gameplan is to try and keep it tight and cut lose in the last twenty. McGeary is an absolute machine and once again was the driving force. Lee Brennan gave us the cutting edge that we were missing and is a serious talent. I thought Peter Harte was superb in the last 20 too and in that form is unplayable. The announcers insistence that patrons shouldn't go on the pitch afterwards - twice, seemed to be a little sour grapes and was completely ignored. The players stayed around for a good 30 mins taking pictures and Mickey looked as happy as I've seen him in a long time. Roll on next Sunday.

By the way, reading through the comments from posters like Wildweasal and the like is very entertaining
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: omaghjoe on August 05, 2018, 10:06:43 PM
Quote from: BennyHarp on August 05, 2018, 10:01:21 PM
Not long back from the game and I must say it was one of the most enjoyable days I've had watching Tyrone. The last 20 mins was as good as anything we've produced in 10 years. It really seems that our gameplan is to try and keep it tight and cut lose in the last twenty. McGeary is an absolute machine and once again was the driving force. Lee Brennan gave us the cutting edge that we were missing and is a serious talent. I thought Peter Harte was superb in the last 20 too and in that form is unplayable. The announcers insistence that patrons shouldn't go on the pitch afterwards - twice, seemed to be a little sour grapes and was completely ignored. The players stayed around for a good 20 mins taking pictures and Mickey looked as happy as I've seen him in a long time. Roll on next Sunday.

By the way, reading through the comments from posters like Wildweasal and the like is very entertaining

:D :D
Funny I was about to post the exact same thing.

Hilarious how the spite is unrelenting in every situation, now its on to how Monaghan are gonna put manners on us ::)

Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: Baile an tuaigh on August 05, 2018, 10:08:23 PM
I think Niall Morgan rushed his kick out for the goal. Didn't the referee just throw the ball up in the previous kick out? I think this had something to do with the quick rash decision by Niall. Other than that he had a perfect gsme.
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: sam03/05 on August 05, 2018, 10:19:45 PM
McQuillan had a shocker today - he got so
Many big calls wrong. A shockingly bad performance.
Why did he stop the play for the Morgan Kickout just before the Donegal goal
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: Carbery on August 05, 2018, 10:47:28 PM
Bit surprised that McQuillan is still getting games now that there is no fellow Cavan man as President and more importantly no Cavan man at the helm of the CCCC.
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: Estimator on August 05, 2018, 10:50:47 PM
It looked like Morgan give the nod to McNamee for the quick kick out. Had McNamee attacked the ball he would've got there before McHugh. McHugh started a couple of yards behind, and still got out in front to get a hand in.
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: Over the Bar on August 05, 2018, 10:59:14 PM
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on August 05, 2018, 06:55:53 PM
Compare all the feigning of injury and attempts to get men carded compared to the toughness of hurlers who don't lie down unless actually hurt!
Tell us how much today's result hurt you?  Please!  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: David McKeown on August 05, 2018, 11:09:01 PM
Quote from: hardstation on August 05, 2018, 10:34:37 PM
Quote from: David McKeown on August 05, 2018, 05:09:36 PM
Was the goal not square ball?
Definitely not.

Looked it on the replay but hard enough to tell from the camera angles
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: omagh_gael on August 05, 2018, 11:10:04 PM
Quote from: Estimator on August 05, 2018, 10:50:47 PM
It looked like Morgan give the nod to McNamee for the quick kick out. Had McNamee attacked the ball he would've got there before McHugh. McHugh started a couple of yards behind, and still got out in front to get a hand in.

Morgan 100% gave the defender the nod and also motioned for the return pass as soon as it left the tee. You can see it clearly on the TV. Open to correction here but I'm nearly certain it was Hampsey that was receiving the ball. If it is then it was the same two players involved in the c**k up second goal v Dublin in the league this year. That time Hampsey sold Morgan totally short with the return hand pass.
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: Carmen Stateside on August 05, 2018, 11:10:39 PM
Quote from: Estimator on August 05, 2018, 10:50:47 PM
It looked like Morgan give the nod to McNamee for the quick kick out. Had McNamee attacked the ball he would've got there before McHugh. McHugh started a couple of yards behind, and still got out in front to get a hand in.

It was a reallystupid decision from Morgan.  He was seeing everything in front of him, nothing to do with defender who can't see whats going on behind him. How people try to balance the blame is unreal!  The reason he improved in the second half was because he was told to kick the ball long over the press and not to be fecking about round his own 21
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: omagh_gael on August 05, 2018, 11:34:04 PM
Don't think it's been mentioned much but Matty Donnelly was utterly superb. He was one of the only men continually breaking the Donegal defensive line and drawing frees. His last score from play was simply awesome.
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: David McKeown on August 05, 2018, 11:40:14 PM
Quote from: hardstation on August 05, 2018, 11:09:38 PM
Quote from: David McKeown on August 05, 2018, 11:09:01 PM
Quote from: hardstation on August 05, 2018, 10:34:37 PM
Quote from: David McKeown on August 05, 2018, 05:09:36 PM
Was the goal not square ball?
Definitely not.

Looked it on the replay but hard enough to tell from the camera angles
No, it's not. He's clearly not in the square when the ball is hand passed.

Well I think we will agree to disagree on whether it's clear. To me he looked inside but it's far from conclusive on replay
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: trileacman on August 05, 2018, 11:44:10 PM
Quote from: hardstation on August 05, 2018, 11:14:59 PM
Quote from: Carmen Stateside on August 05, 2018, 11:10:39 PM
Quote from: Estimator on August 05, 2018, 10:50:47 PM
It looked like Morgan give the nod to McNamee for the quick kick out. Had McNamee attacked the ball he would've got there before McHugh. McHugh started a couple of yards behind, and still got out in front to get a hand in.

It was a reallystupid decision from Morgan.  He was seeing everything in front of him, nothing to do with defender who can't see whats going on behind him. How people try to balance the blame is unreal!
How is it not? He should not be waiting on that ball. I actually think he backed a couple of inches away from it. The pass was on, the receiver just needed to be sharper.

His marker was under six foot away, he didn't hit a short kick out all day to a man with a marker that close so why he chose to do it to literally the last line of defence is puzzling. Yes Hampsey waits on it but more so it's on Morgan who sees the proximity of all the players on the pitch as opposed to Hampsey who can't know how close his man is.

Morgan shoulders more of the blame. Added to that he leaves the kickout  short. Hampsey is retreating so he can collect the ball at chest height. Had he advanced on the ball he would had to collect it as it bounced on his toes, not an easy ball to gather safely. Had Morgan  put power behind that kick it wold have reached Hampsey sooner, he wouldn't have had to retreat to gather it and Mc Hugh wouldn't have nipped in.
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: trileacman on August 05, 2018, 11:45:40 PM
Quote from: David McKeown on August 05, 2018, 11:40:14 PM
Quote from: hardstation on August 05, 2018, 11:09:38 PM
Quote from: David McKeown on August 05, 2018, 11:09:01 PM
Quote from: hardstation on August 05, 2018, 10:34:37 PM
Quote from: David McKeown on August 05, 2018, 05:09:36 PM
Was the goal not square ball?
Definitely not.

Looked it on the replay but hard enough to tell from the camera angles
No, it's not. He's clearly not in the square when the ball is hand passed.

Well I think we will agree to disagree on whether it's clear. To me he looked inside but it's far from conclusive on replay

On the replay he can clearly been seen to stop his run at a the line and dawdle there for a few seconds so I'd be fairly confident he was okay.
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: David McKeown on August 05, 2018, 11:54:58 PM
Quote from: hardstation on August 05, 2018, 11:51:50 PM
Quote from: trileacman on August 05, 2018, 11:45:40 PM
Quote from: David McKeown on August 05, 2018, 11:40:14 PM
Quote from: hardstation on August 05, 2018, 11:09:38 PM
Quote from: David McKeown on August 05, 2018, 11:09:01 PM
Quote from: hardstation on August 05, 2018, 10:34:37 PM
Quote from: David McKeown on August 05, 2018, 05:09:36 PM
Was the goal not square ball?
Definitely not.

Looked it on the replay but hard enough to tell from the camera angles
No, it's not. He's clearly not in the square when the ball is hand passed.

Well I think we will agree to disagree on whether it's clear. To me he looked inside but it's far from conclusive on replay

On the replay he can clearly been seen to stop his run at a the line and dawdle there for a few seconds so I'd be fairly confident he was okay.
He's well outside.
https://mobile.twitter.com/officialgaa/status/1026137080232124416

No idea how you say that's well outside looks inside to me.
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: J70 on August 05, 2018, 11:58:55 PM
Quote from: hardstation on August 05, 2018, 11:51:50 PM
Quote from: trileacman on August 05, 2018, 11:45:40 PM
Quote from: David McKeown on August 05, 2018, 11:40:14 PM
Quote from: hardstation on August 05, 2018, 11:09:38 PM
Quote from: David McKeown on August 05, 2018, 11:09:01 PM
Quote from: hardstation on August 05, 2018, 10:34:37 PM
Quote from: David McKeown on August 05, 2018, 05:09:36 PM
Was the goal not square ball?
Definitely not.

Looked it on the replay but hard enough to tell from the camera angles
No, it's not. He's clearly not in the square when the ball is hand passed.

Well I think we will agree to disagree on whether it's clear. To me he looked inside but it's far from conclusive on replay

On the replay he can clearly been seen to stop his run at a the line and dawdle there for a few seconds so I'd be fairly confident he was okay.
He's well outside.
https://mobile.twitter.com/officialgaa/status/1026137080232124416

Didn't realize we were still winning as late as the 62nd minute. Some finish to the game from Tyrone.
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: cjx on August 06, 2018, 12:12:10 AM
Quote from: Carmen Stateside on August 05, 2018, 11:10:39 PM
Quote from: Estimator on August 05, 2018, 10:50:47 PM
It looked like Morgan give the nod to McNamee for the quick kick out. Had McNamee attacked the ball he would've got there before McHugh. McHugh started a couple of yards behind, and still got out in front to get a hand in.

It was a reallystupid decision from Morgan.  He was seeing everything in front of him, nothing to do with defender who can't see whats going on behind him. How people try to balance the blame is unreal!  The reason he improved in the second half was because he was told to kick the ball long over the press and not to be fecking about round his own 21

Morgan has flaky moments and this was primarily his fault To try such a kickout on the cusp of halftime is like having a brain storm but I was realy glad he got the late long free as Spillane said Morgan did not crack unlike that miserable day in 2013
I think Hampsay is still a better fullback than midfielder and best played there given how well COnal McCann played and McClure when they came on (Also Hampsay missed 4-5 Dublin runs in earlier match for instance letting Philly McMahon wander past him to get an easy point)
Great to see Mattie Donnelly put in a full productive wholehearted shift best of Championship by far for him and I still believe we should get a full game out of Lee Brennan even though he is clearly going to do better against tired defenders McAlliskey is a bit of a shaper,  has been very inconsistent and he might do better as an impact sub now We need a free taker missed 3-4 easy ones today.
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: Main Street on August 06, 2018, 12:28:49 AM
i was fortunate that I only watched a recording of the game and could speed through that turgid retro ulster grind of a first half. The 2nd half was good for a lively Tyrone when Donegal all of a sudden ran out of gas and made stupid decision after stupid decision in the 5 or so  minutes that Tyrone took to score 3 or 4 points. Tyrone's overall fitness levels were vastly superior to Donegal's poor standard. on the day.

Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: RedHand88 on August 06, 2018, 12:31:40 AM
Quote from: David McKeown on August 05, 2018, 11:54:58 PM
Quote from: hardstation on August 05, 2018, 11:51:50 PM
Quote from: trileacman on August 05, 2018, 11:45:40 PM
Quote from: David McKeown on August 05, 2018, 11:40:14 PM
Quote from: hardstation on August 05, 2018, 11:09:38 PM
Quote from: David McKeown on August 05, 2018, 11:09:01 PM
Quote from: hardstation on August 05, 2018, 10:34:37 PM
Quote from: David McKeown on August 05, 2018, 05:09:36 PM
Was the goal not square ball?
Definitely not.

Looked it on the replay but hard enough to tell from the camera angles
No, it's not. He's clearly not in the square when the ball is hand passed.

Well I think we will agree to disagree on whether it's clear. To me he looked inside but it's far from conclusive on replay

On the replay he can clearly been seen to stop his run at a the line and dawdle there for a few seconds so I'd be fairly confident he was okay.
He's well outside.
https://mobile.twitter.com/officialgaa/status/1026137080232124416

No idea how you say that's well outside looks inside to me.

Are people in the windup here saying that's a close one? He's miles out!
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: RedHand88 on August 06, 2018, 01:20:58 AM
Quote from: hardstation on August 06, 2018, 12:17:38 AM
If replacing forwards, McShane & R Donnelly need to be the first roaded. Don't see what they're offering at all.

Harsh. Both didn't have great days today but have been generally fantastic all year. Don't forget we wouldn't even be here only for mcshanes monster point against meath. Donnelly has made the 14 jersey his own.

That's the fickle nature of sport though. Everybody only remembers your last game
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: Baile an tuaigh on August 06, 2018, 01:56:25 AM
Tyrone need to start Lee Brennan the next day. (unless hes not fit for 70 minutes). Could be answer to free taking problems. Loved when he came on today, that he was bold enough to offer to take the first free chance that came his way. Nice  to see players with so much confidence in their own abilities. Also has a great ability to skin lads and how he steadies himself before pulling the trigger. A really class act.

Colm Cavanagh will throw his head in where you wouldn't throw your hat. That's the kind of boys you need to get over the line. Was he man of the match? Mattie Donnelly another warrior had a fine game along with Tiernan McCann. Their with others including Peter Harte who in position the ball is like glued to him. Rarely gets dispossessed. Another fantastic talent.

Tyrone are getting better and better as the injured are coming back. It gives Mickey a load of new options. The Monaghan game will be an absolute belter.
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: Fear ón Srath Bán on August 06, 2018, 01:57:50 AM
I don't think  the final score flattered our relative prowess overall, though I must pay compliments to the general Donegal graciousness in defeat. GRMA a chairde.
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: moysider on August 06, 2018, 02:20:08 AM

Donegal blew up badly last quarter. Looked really good for most of it and imo look like a team that could win an AI before Murphy finishes. They would also need McGee, McGrath, McLoone and McGlynn to soldier on. A few callow turn-overs cost them big time. Mostly from younger lads that will learn.

Tyrone finished like a train. I'm a bit iffy about them though. A lot of their starting forwards were not that good. So what happens the next day? Start them again or start the likes of Brennan who was brilliant?
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: Baile an tuaigh on August 06, 2018, 02:27:04 AM
Can't afford not to start Lee Brennan hes just too good. Like could you imagine Kerry not starting David Clifford or Donegal not starting Michael Murphy.
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: omaghjoe on August 06, 2018, 04:49:02 AM
Haven't  seen anyone mention the 12 feckin minutes injury time

Also McKernan's black card was for nothing, he gave in to the baying from the crowd

Im not sure if Lee should be starting, obviously it would be nice for the frees but is he 70min fit... prob not. 
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: Fuzzman on August 06, 2018, 07:23:49 AM
Anyone know where I can watch the Sunday game again from last night or the full game in YouTube or anywhere.
Do Rte put the whole game on the player?
Great win and 1973 was a great year.  ;)
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: Fuzzman on August 06, 2018, 08:02:42 AM
Quote from: yellowcard on August 05, 2018, 04:52:35 PM
I wonder will Micky Harte retire after this match
I wonder.
Just reading backwards through these posts yesterday and it's gas the overall theme is so negative and grumpy old man syndrome. Never happy with anything.
Granted a lot of the posts are from "neutrals" or fans who couldn't get to the match for one reason or another but the whinging and giving out so reminds me of listening to aul lads in their 70s constantly giving out about the modern way things are done and how it was so different in their day.
I'm not that shocked at the Derry wans or other counties who have been shite for years but the older Armagh fans should remember what it's like when you're in the white heat of a highly competitive match where winner takes all.
Remember Tyrone hadn't won here for 45 years.
Yet again at stages they appeared to have to deal with a very challenging and inconsistent referee and then they gave away a very soft goal after losing a talented defender for an inoccuous tackle. That's a lot of shit to overcome in a very hostile environment so as you sit in your comfy sofa, having not been at an actual live game for years perhaps, maybe you should try to think back what the passion and mood was like in such circumstances when this was do or die.

Having watched it in O'Neills in Oxford yesterday, my 4 kids said to be after the game, we've never seen shouting at the TV so much before dad. The youngest still supports Tyrone (not Dublin yet) and we were all getting high fives and hugs all around the pub. The kids all loved the passion and excitement and my eldest said, you don't get that at boring Dubs games dad.
I would love it to be a Tyrone v Dublin final just for the craic in our house and the banter with MDMA their cousin.
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: nrico2006 on August 06, 2018, 08:10:18 AM
Quote from: hardstation on August 05, 2018, 11:14:59 PM
Quote from: Carmen Stateside on August 05, 2018, 11:10:39 PM
Quote from: Estimator on August 05, 2018, 10:50:47 PM
It looked like Morgan give the nod to McNamee for the quick kick out. Had McNamee attacked the ball he would've got there before McHugh. McHugh started a couple of yards behind, and still got out in front to get a hand in.

It was a reallystupid decision from Morgan.  He was seeing everything in front of him, nothing to do with defender who can't see whats going on behind him. How people try to balance the blame is unreal!
How is it not? He should not be waiting on that ball. I actually think he backed a couple of inches away from it. The pass was on, the receiver just needed to be sharper.

True, receiver was at fault here.  Never wait on the ball.
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: trailer on August 06, 2018, 08:57:34 AM
Quote from: nrico2006 on August 06, 2018, 08:10:18 AM
Quote from: hardstation on August 05, 2018, 11:14:59 PM
Quote from: Carmen Stateside on August 05, 2018, 11:10:39 PM
Quote from: Estimator on August 05, 2018, 10:50:47 PM
It looked like Morgan give the nod to McNamee for the quick kick out. Had McNamee attacked the ball he would've got there before McHugh. McHugh started a couple of yards behind, and still got out in front to get a hand in.

It was a reallystupid decision from Morgan.  He was seeing everything in front of him, nothing to do with defender who can't see whats going on behind him. How people try to balance the blame is unreal!
How is it not? He should not be waiting on that ball. I actually think he backed a couple of inches away from it. The pass was on, the receiver just needed to be sharper.

True, receiver was at fault here.  Never wait on the ball.

Bar the kickout for the goal which wasn't entirely his fault, I thought Morgan had a great game and had Tyrone on the front foot with his kickouts, especially in the 2nd half.
Mattie Donnelly had a great game also, he has been quiet of late but carried the fight to Donegal time and again.
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: RedHand88 on August 06, 2018, 09:09:01 AM
I wouldn't be hard on a Morgan. Some of his kickouts yesterday were outrageous. He has a knack of dropping a ball right onto a free receivers hands. One in particular to petey harte I think it was, had ones around me in awe.
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: samwin08 on August 06, 2018, 09:16:39 AM
Fact is Donegal beat 2,3,   4th division or yo-yo teams (Kildare, Roscommon) and Bonnar "free flowing football " leaves Donegal football in pre Mc Guinness era!  Donegal have failed to beat any of top 6 teams.
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: nrico2006 on August 06, 2018, 10:12:49 AM
Quote from: samwin08 on August 06, 2018, 09:16:39 AM
Fact is Donegal beat 2,3,   4th division or yo-yo teams (Kildare, Roscommon) and Bonnar "free flowing football " leaves Donegal football in pre Mc Guinness era!  Donegal have failed to beat any of top 6 teams.

I was saying the same all along.  Plus they were relegated.
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: blewuporstuffed on August 06, 2018, 10:15:19 AM
Quote from: RedHand88 on August 06, 2018, 09:09:01 AM
I wouldn't be hard on a Morgan. Some of his kickouts yesterday were outrageous. He has a knack of dropping a ball right onto a free receivers hands. One in particular to petey harte I think it was, had ones around me in awe.

The obvious one apart, his kickouts where top class yesterday.
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: omagh_gael on August 06, 2018, 10:27:30 AM
Yesterday's analysis by RTE highlights the clear cognitive biases that exist within their panel. At half time Brolly et al were eulogising Bonner's system and lauding it's flexibility when compared to Tyrone's rigidity. Is it my (genetically hardwired) Tyrone paranoia or how was Donegal's approach any different to ours? They totally clogged up the defence and rarely launched long direct ball into the FF line. Even when Murphy was in there I can only recall 2-3 balls being let in long. We probably used the long ball more in the first half than them, FFS!

Others may say that to beat Tyrone you have to replicate them but when we played Roscommon, for example, we used the long ball a lot more than normal.
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: RedHand88 on August 06, 2018, 10:38:59 AM
Quote from: omagh_gael on August 06, 2018, 10:27:30 AM
Yesterday's analysis by RTE highlights the clear cognitive biases that exist within their panel. At half time Brolly et al were eulogising Bonner's system and lauding it's flexibility when compared to Tyrone's rigidity. Is it my (genetically hardwired) Tyrone paranoia or how was Donegal's approach any different to ours? They totally clogged up the defence and rarely launched long direct ball into the FF line. Even when Murphy was in there I can only recall 2-3 balls being let in long. We probably used the long ball more in the first half than them, FFS!

Others may say that to beat Tyrone you have to replicate them but when we played Roscommon, for example, we used the long ball a lot more than normal.

The RTE panel speak some nonsense. The default position is to laud whichever team is infront and criticise whichever team is behind. There was no difference between those two teams in the first half apart from a single error from Morgan. Indeed Tyrone led for much of the half.

On a side note great to see Cantwell challenge the bolloxology. Refreshing.
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: GetOverTheBar on August 06, 2018, 10:48:12 AM
Quote from: RedHand88 on August 06, 2018, 10:38:59 AM
Quote from: omagh_gael on August 06, 2018, 10:27:30 AM
Yesterday's analysis by RTE highlights the clear cognitive biases that exist within their panel. At half time Brolly et al were eulogising Bonner's system and lauding it's flexibility when compared to Tyrone's rigidity. Is it my (genetically hardwired) Tyrone paranoia or how was Donegal's approach any different to ours? They totally clogged up the defence and rarely launched long direct ball into the FF line. Even when Murphy was in there I can only recall 2-3 balls being let in long. We probably used the long ball more in the first half than them, FFS!

Others may say that to beat Tyrone you have to replicate them but when we played Roscommon, for example, we used the long ball a lot more than normal.

The RTE panel speak some nonsense. The default position is to laud whichever team is infront and criticise whichever team is behind. There was no difference between those two teams in the first half apart from a single error from Morgan. Indeed Tyrone led for much of the half.

Anyone that's ever played the game at any level knows the one simple rule, don't wait on the ball. The keeper was not to blame for this instance, even though for some people it's popular to have a go for whatever reason. Hampsey waited, McHugh was too quick for him and read it excellently and that was that.
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: Knock Yer Mucker In on August 06, 2018, 10:51:10 AM
I was so disappointed to be all square at 5 a piece, we had missed easy frees and shots and should have been 3 if not four up, to then hand Donegal an easy goal from Hampsey not going to the ball on a short KO was sickening. We kept Donegal in the game and then gave them the impetus to take control of the game, which they took full advantage of.  All the while you could see the players confidence dipping. Half time couldn't come quick enough to get ourselves settled. Harte was going to introduce those players anyway but the truth is he had no choice as we were toothless up front and those changes that were made were crying out for. Morgan, Big Colm, Mattie(best game the year) Harte and Hampsey were consistently good for the entire game. IMO this was game that we should have won easier and that we made more difficult for ourselves.
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: RedHand88 on August 06, 2018, 10:56:38 AM
Quote from: GetOverTheBar on August 06, 2018, 10:48:12 AM
Quote from: RedHand88 on August 06, 2018, 10:38:59 AM
Quote from: omagh_gael on August 06, 2018, 10:27:30 AM
Yesterday's analysis by RTE highlights the clear cognitive biases that exist within their panel. At half time Brolly et al were eulogising Bonner's system and lauding it's flexibility when compared to Tyrone's rigidity. Is it my (genetically hardwired) Tyrone paranoia or how was Donegal's approach any different to ours? They totally clogged up the defence and rarely launched long direct ball into the FF line. Even when Murphy was in there I can only recall 2-3 balls being let in long. We probably used the long ball more in the first half than them, FFS!

Others may say that to beat Tyrone you have to replicate them but when we played Roscommon, for example, we used the long ball a lot more than normal.

The RTE panel speak some nonsense. The default position is to laud whichever team is infront and criticise whichever team is behind. There was no difference between those two teams in the first half apart from a single error from Morgan. Indeed Tyrone led for much of the half.

Anyone that's ever played the game at any level knows the one simple rule, don't wait on the ball. The keeper was not to blame for this instance, even though for some people it's popular to have a go for whatever reason. Hampsey waited, McHugh was too quick for him and read it excellently and that was that.

Oh absolutely Hampsey shouldnt have waited, not saying Morgan is totally at fault at all. Should have said the Morgan/Hampsey error. The kickout shouldnt have been hit at him but he also should have been more ready. Both men were excellent yesterday outside of that moment of madness.
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: J70 on August 06, 2018, 11:16:39 AM
Quote from: samwin08 on August 06, 2018, 09:16:39 AM
Fact is Donegal beat 2,3,   4th division or yo-yo teams (Kildare, Roscommon) and Bonnar "free flowing football " leaves Donegal football in pre Mc Guinness era!  Donegal have failed to beat any of top 6 teams.

You have to start somewhere. It's a young team with many of them in only their first or second season at senior.
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: Dire Ear on August 06, 2018, 11:37:59 AM
 hand-passed to Michael Murphy, who planted a shot to the top left corner of the Tyrone net for his first championship goal since the 2002 All-Ireland final.
From Hoganstand.  Is this correct,  seems strange??
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: BennyHarp on August 06, 2018, 11:47:42 AM
Quote from: J70 on August 06, 2018, 11:16:39 AM
Quote from: samwin08 on August 06, 2018, 09:16:39 AM
Fact is Donegal beat 2,3,   4th division or yo-yo teams (Kildare, Roscommon) and Bonnar "free flowing football " leaves Donegal football in pre Mc Guinness era!  Donegal have failed to beat any of top 6 teams.

You have to start somewhere. It's a young team with many of them in only their first or second season at senior.

When this all settles down I think Bonner will be happy enough with the progress this year. He has tried to change a very institutionalised style of play (though I thought they reverted to a quite defensive style yesterday) and has given a lot game time to some really promising young players like Brennan, Langan, Gallagher, Patton, etc. The loss of McBrearty was huge and he may just have been able to get enough scores to keep a Tyrone comeback at bay yesterday. I think Donegal will be big players in future years. It's got all the making of a healthy Ulster championship with them, Tyrone and Monaghan competing over the next few years.
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: omagh_gael on August 06, 2018, 11:57:19 AM
BTW, who is this Lanigan fella that plays for Donegal? Ger Canning was on about him all day!
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: Dire Ear on August 06, 2018, 12:21:35 PM
Quote from: Knock Yer Mucker In on August 06, 2018, 10:51:10 AM
I was so disappointed to be all square at 5 a piece, we had missed easy frees and shots and should have been 3 if not four up, to then hand Donegal an easy goal from Hampsey not going to the ball on a short KO was sickening. We kept Donegal in the game and then gave them the impetus to take control of the game, which they took full advantage of.  All the while you could see the players confidence dipping. Half time couldn't come quick enough to get ourselves settled. Harte was going to introduce those players anyway but the truth is he had no choice as we were toothless up front and those changes that were made were crying out for. Morgan, Big Colm, Mattie(best game the year) Harte and Hampsey were consistently good for the entire game. IMO this was game that we should have won easier and that we made more difficult for ourselves.
Agree with all of that-  but it means there will be no complacency for the next game
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: tyrone08 on August 06, 2018, 03:31:38 PM
Has anyone seen this article-

https://www.sportsjoe.ie/gaa/donegal-relegated-referee-colm-cavanagh-tackle-171455

This may have been the case if the pictures didnt show McHugh running towards Colm with the shoulder. Colm didnt have to move out his way. 
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: RedHand88 on August 06, 2018, 03:43:19 PM
Quote from: tyrone08 on August 06, 2018, 03:31:38 PM
Has anyone seen this article-

https://www.sportsjoe.ie/gaa/donegal-relegated-referee-colm-cavanagh-tackle-171455

This may have been the case if the pictures didnt show McHugh running towards Colm with the shoulder. Colm didnt have to move out his way.

This is unbelievably sad. Such cherry picking.
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: haranguerer on August 06, 2018, 03:51:43 PM
If you pass any remarks on anything on Joe.ie, especially anything by that eejit, you've got bigger issues than the name of your county being besmirched
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: Jayop on August 06, 2018, 03:52:16 PM
Such shite. McHugh should have been gone in the first half himself so shouldn't have been on the pitch to charge into Colm.
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: Sweeper 123 on August 06, 2018, 04:06:19 PM
nut we cant argue about the over carrying - its something that seems to happen time and time again in both codes  Lack of consistency by the refs
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: Jayop on August 06, 2018, 04:39:35 PM
Just watched the highlights on the Sunday Game last night. They didn't show the kick out during the game at all that was given as a throw ball as it was taken while they showed a replay of something else. They showed it there and I haven't a clue what it was pulled back for. The ball went well far enough.

Anyone know what the problem was?
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: omaghjoe on August 06, 2018, 04:43:54 PM
Quote from: tyrone08 on August 06, 2018, 03:31:38 PM
Has anyone seen this article-

https://www.sportsjoe.ie/gaa/donegal-relegated-referee-colm-cavanagh-tackle-171455

This may have been the case if the pictures didnt show McHugh running towards Colm with the shoulder. Colm didnt have to move out his way.

Conan Doherty has a history of histrionic articles with an anti Tyrone slant.

Probably taking his lead from Armagh and Derry eejits on here... I pity the lad.
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: omaghjoe on August 06, 2018, 04:46:23 PM
Quote from: omagh_gael on August 06, 2018, 11:57:19 AM
BTW, who is this Lanigan fella that plays for Donegal? Ger Canning was on about him all day!

Was it not Darragh Maloney?, Tho he does seem to be styling himself on Ger, its increasingly hard to tell the difference between the two
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: omagh_gael on August 06, 2018, 04:53:29 PM
Quote from: omaghjoe on August 06, 2018, 04:46:23 PM
Quote from: omagh_gael on August 06, 2018, 11:57:19 AM
BTW, who is this Lanigan fella that plays for Donegal? Ger Canning was on about him all day!

Was it not Darragh Maloney?, Tho he does seem to be styling himself on Ger, its increasingly hard to tell the difference between the two

I realised that after I typed it. To be fair Maloney is better than Canning but the Lanigan thing was driving me nuts!
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: RedHand88 on August 06, 2018, 05:12:29 PM
Quote from: Jayop on August 06, 2018, 04:39:35 PM
Just watched the highlights on the Sunday Game last night. They didn't show the kick out during the game at all that was given as a throw ball as it was taken while they showed a replay of something else. They showed it there and I haven't a clue what it was pulled back for. The ball went well far enough.

Anyone know what the problem was?

Tyrone defender wasn't outside the 21 when the ball was kicked.
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: Jayop on August 06, 2018, 05:13:59 PM
Quote from: RedHand88 on August 06, 2018, 05:12:29 PM
Quote from: Jayop on August 06, 2018, 04:39:35 PM
Just watched the highlights on the Sunday Game last night. They didn't show the kick out during the game at all that was given as a throw ball as it was taken while they showed a replay of something else. They showed it there and I haven't a clue what it was pulled back for. The ball went well far enough.

Anyone know what the problem was?

Tyrone defender wasn't outside the 21 when the ball was kicked.

Ah right, but he was outside when he received the ball. Makes sense.
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: redhandefender on August 06, 2018, 05:43:09 PM
Quote from: RedHand88 on August 06, 2018, 05:12:29 PM
Quote from: Jayop on August 06, 2018, 04:39:35 PM
Just watched the highlights on the Sunday Game last night. They didn't show the kick out during the game at all that was given as a throw ball as it was taken while they showed a replay of something else. They showed it there and I haven't a clue what it was pulled back for. The ball went well far enough.

Anyone know what the problem was?

Tyrone defender wasn't outside the 21 when the ball was kicked.

Was sitting in line with that and he 100% was
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: Jayop on August 06, 2018, 05:50:36 PM
It looked incredibly harsh and a niggly decision to give. That didn't cost us a score immediately but probably fed into the panic that caused the goal just afterwards.

That's three calls like that that have gone against us in recent games. I can't remember seeing one given against any other team all season.
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: belfastkev on August 06, 2018, 09:51:07 PM
Any other ST holders attendance not updated yet? I'm still showing as "not attended".
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: Jayop on August 06, 2018, 10:16:50 PM
A quick point on a topic that was a big source of conversation before this game but hasn't been touched on since that I've seen was the Ballybofey factor and how many points was it worth for Donegal.

I'd probably say after the game it was worth 2/3 points, and more specifically it was probably the frees Tyrone missed in the first half thanks to the huge pressure our players were under from the crowd. That game played in a neutral venue and at least two of those are over the bar.

Thoughts?
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: WT4E on August 06, 2018, 10:19:13 PM
Quote from: Jayop on August 06, 2018, 10:16:50 PM
A quick point on a topic that was a big source of conversation before this game but hasn't been touched on since that I've seen was the Ballybofey factor and how many points was it worth for Donegal.

I'd probably say after the game it was worth 2/3 points, and more specifically it was probably the frees Tyrone missed in the first half thanks to the huge pressure our players were under from the crowd. That game played in a neutral venue and at least two of those are over the bar.

Thoughts?

My thoughts - we're shite at frees so probably would have missed them anywhere!!!!

Hopefully Lee Brennan can sort that out too!
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: Jayop on August 06, 2018, 10:22:47 PM
 ;D ;D

Yeah that's a fair enough point but I still would have fancied us to knock over two of them.
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: omagh_gael on August 06, 2018, 11:01:03 PM
I'd say the roaring and shouting by the Donegal players Infront of McAliskey did more to put him off than the crowd.
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: Jayop on August 06, 2018, 11:03:06 PM
Quote from: omagh_gael on August 06, 2018, 11:01:03 PM
I'd say the roaring and shouting by the Donegal players Infront of McAliskey did more to put him off than the crowd.

Do they get away with that away from Ballybofey? Rock had a free brought in twenty yards that he missed for the slightest encroachment. There's no way those Donegal players were all the required distance.
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: Throw ball on August 07, 2018, 12:10:43 AM
Quote from: Jayop on August 06, 2018, 05:50:36 PM
It looked incredibly harsh and a niggly decision to give. That didn't cost us a score immediately but probably fed into the panic that caused the goal just afterwards.

That's three calls like that that have gone against us in recent games. I can't remember seeing one given against any other team all season.

You mustn't have watched too many other games then. Saw it regularly this last few seasons. I also think the rule has been tweeked in that it has to travel 14m and the player has to be outside 21 when kicked.
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: Jayop on August 07, 2018, 12:44:04 AM
I've watched as much football as anyone I'd say. Possibly not passing much heed when it's not Tyrone admittedly.

The ball went about 25 yards and beyond the 21 so the only thing would be was the player a tiny bit inside the 21 before it was kicked. If he was it was very slight and fussy.
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: RedHand88 on August 07, 2018, 01:11:59 PM
Quote from: Jayop on August 07, 2018, 12:44:04 AM
I've watched as much football as anyone I'd say. Possibly not passing much heed when it's not Tyrone admittedly.

The ball went about 25 yards and beyond the 21 so the only thing would be was the player a tiny bit inside the 21 before it was kicked. If he was it was very slight and fussy.

Yep that's spot on. I've only seen it pulled up twice and the other time was v Roscommon 3 weeks ago!
If it doesn't give you a distinct advantage being inside then it shouldn't be pulled up, especially since out defender was running out the field anyway.
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: cadhlancian on August 07, 2018, 05:59:53 PM
Was surprised that Bradley's point in the first ha
F didn't receive more plaudits. Picked up the ball inside his own 14 , sprinted the length of the field , received it back, steadied himself and drilled it over the black spot with the outside of his left boot from about 30 yards. I thought it was the best score of the day.....
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: RedHand88 on August 07, 2018, 06:35:36 PM
Quote from: cadhlancian on August 07, 2018, 05:59:53 PM
Was surprised that Bradley's point in the first ha
F didn't receive more plaudits. Picked up the ball inside his own 14 , sprinted the length of the field , received it back, steadied himself and drilled it over the black spot with the outside of his left boot from about 30 yards. I thought it was the best score of the day.....

Was that the one with the 1 2 with cavanagh? It was wonderfully worked.
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: BennyHarp on August 07, 2018, 06:37:19 PM
Quote from: cadhlancian on August 07, 2018, 05:59:53 PM
Was surprised that Bradley's point in the first ha
F didn't receive more plaudits. Picked up the ball inside his own 14 , sprinted the length of the field , received it back, steadied himself and drilled it over the black spot with the outside of his left boot from about 30 yards. I thought it was the best score of the day.....

Absolutely class. He was right in front of where I was standing when he threw the little dummy to get space about 30 yards from his own goal. There was actually quite a strong breeze blowing right across the pitch in the first half towards the terrace side so his decision to steady and slice it over rather than curl it was spot on.
Title: Re: Donegal v Tyrone, Sunday Aug 5, Ballybofey
Post by: Jayop on August 07, 2018, 09:41:21 PM
The way he steadied himself I almost thought he fouled the ball it was so unusual looking. Class point tho.