Is Pete Mc Grath the only manager

[T Fearon]

To lead two different Counties to major finals and lose both to the same side? Down ulster final v Armagh in 99 and Fermanagh NFL final v Armagh tonight

[armaghniac]

You are losing the plot, Tony, NFL Div 3 is not a major final! I'd say McGrath hurt more in 1999 

[T Fearon]

It is a national final.He hasn't led a team to victory over Armagh since 1992!

[T Fearon]

Also the Down minor defeat by Armagh (over which he presided as well) in 2011 when Down were miles in front at one stage is also worthy of mention

[muppet]

He hasn't led a team to victory over Armagh since 1992!

If the above was the answer to your question, then you'd probably be right.

[Champion The Wonder Horse]

No is the answer to T Fearon's question. Mick O'Dwyer would be another. AI final in 1976 and Leinster final in 2005, both defeated by Dublin, although neither as prestigious as an NFL Div 3 title.