Ulster Final: Tyrone v Down 16/07/17 14.00 Clones

Started by omagh_gael, June 22, 2017, 10:12:37 AM

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omagh_gael

Nobody is mentioning the wind, this had a huge bearing in the 1st half v 2nd half performance.

armaghniac

Quote from: T Fearon on July 16, 2017, 04:14:34 PM
Real danger now of Tyrone becoming Ulster's equivalent of Dublin in provincial championship.Miles ahead of everyone else now

Well if they do it will be fair enough, as they don't have enormous intrinsic advantages over other counties, it is more because they are doing things right. More like Kilkenny in hurling or Cross' Rangers in Armagh.
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omagh_gael

Quote from: hardstation on July 16, 2017, 04:25:25 PM
Quote from: omagh_gael on July 16, 2017, 04:19:42 PM
Nobody is mentioning the wind, this had a huge bearing in the 1st half v 2nd half performance.
There wasn't much of a wind, I didn't think.

Wasn't a gale but strong enough to make a difference. Look at shot selection from both sides in both halves and you'll see a huge difference in quality and success rate.

Gaffer

Quote from: T Fearon on July 16, 2017, 04:14:34 PM
Real danger now of Tyrone becoming Ulster's equivalent of Dublin in provincial championship.Miles ahead of everyone else now

  You haven't much faith in McGeeney?
"Well ! Well ! Well !  If it ain't the Smoker !!!"

T Fearon

We are a Division 3 team.Donegal and Monaghan the only threats to Tyrone have slipped back big time this year.

Captain Obvious

First half Tyrone 0-7 Down 0-5 and Down could easily have led. 2nd half Tyrone 2-10 Down 0-10. Goals made it comfortable for Tyrone but the jury is still out about them and we should know more about them later this summer...

imtommygunn

Down could have had the lead or tyrone could have been out the gate in the first half...

Against the better teams they may struggle for scores though. I think bradley takes too much out of ball and mccurry/ oneill likely better options.

naka

No one was saying that when Armagh were taking ulstersin the early noughties
Down won their big game against Monaghan
Donegal will grow in confidence as they are a young team as will Armagh .

On the match that is mc Kiernans second black card in 3 games
Does that impact on his next game.

T Fearon

The difference is there wasn't such a gap in the noughties,Armagh,Tyrone were neck and neck,with Donegal not far away,Derry on their day could have beaten anyone on their day etc.Tyrone are miles ahead of everyone now and I can't see the gap closing any time soon.

seafoid

Quote from: T Fearon on July 16, 2017, 04:14:34 PM
Real danger now of Tyrone becoming Ulster's equivalent of Dublin in provincial championship.Miles ahead of everyone else now
Dublin are Leinster's equivalent of Cavan
"f**k it, just score"- Donaghy   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbxG2WwVRjU

trileacman

Quote from: seafoid on July 16, 2017, 04:56:12 PM
Quote from: T Fearon on July 16, 2017, 04:14:34 PM
Real danger now of Tyrone becoming Ulster's equivalent of Dublin in provincial championship.Miles ahead of everyone else now
Dublin are Leinster's equivalent of Cavan

That's bollix. We couldn't buy a victory against Donegal for ~4 years. When hartes and Donnellys legs start to go in 2-3 years we'll be back into the chasing pack.
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armaghniac

Quote from: trileacman on July 16, 2017, 04:58:35 PM
Quote from: seafoid on July 16, 2017, 04:56:12 PM
Quote from: T Fearon on July 16, 2017, 04:14:34 PM
Real danger now of Tyrone becoming Ulster's equivalent of Dublin in provincial championship.Miles ahead of everyone else now
Dublin are Leinster's equivalent of Cavan

That's bollix. We couldn't buy a victory against Donegal for ~4 years. When hartes and Donnellys legs start to go in 2-3 years we'll be back into the chasing pack.

You have players like Ronan O'Neill or Lee Brennan who have probably not reached their peak yet to replace them.
If at first you don't succeed, then goto Plan B

nrico2006

Down got some amount of handy frees in last 15 minutes
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red hander

Quote from: T Fearon on July 16, 2017, 04:55:43 PM
The difference is there wasn't such a gap in the noughties,Armagh,Tyrone were neck and neck,with Donegal not far away,Derry on their day could have beaten anyone on their day etc.Tyrone are miles ahead of everyone now and I can't see the gap closing any time soon.

Really? Armagh, like Kerry, could never beat us when it REALLY mattered

Lamh Dhearg Alba

Wasn't a vintage Tyrone performance but still comfortable. Some poor wides when they were well on top in the first half allowed Down back into it and being only 2 points up at the break was a poor reflection on Tyrone's domination of most of it.
Whatever Mickey said at half time worked as they came out and finished the match off. 8 point defeat probably flattered Down a bit.

Still hard to know exactly where Tyrone stand in comparison to the very best teams. We'll find out over the next few weeks. Job done today though, well done to the lads.