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Title: Skimmed Milk
Post by: IrishKid on October 24, 2007, 10:22:40 AM
I was at an EU Research convention the other day and I was talking to a dehydration specialist and he had some interesting things to say, one which I found surprising. He said that the best thing you can drink to rehydrate yourself after a game is skimmed milk. He says your body will absorb it a lot better and quicker than any of the isotonic drinks that are out there on the market. Am waiting on Lucozade milk to hit the shelves .)
Title: Re: Skimmed Milk
Post by: stpauls on October 24, 2007, 11:04:22 AM
i find the best re-hydration solution is to get some robinsons diluten juice, preferably the barley stuff, add to an equal amount of water and add a pinch of salt!!
Title: Re: Skimmed Milk
Post by: AZOffaly on October 24, 2007, 11:06:21 AM
I find a litre of water with a sachet of Dioralyte is the business.
Title: Re: Skimmed Milk
Post by: Candyman on October 24, 2007, 11:08:42 AM
Quote from: AZOffaly on October 24, 2007, 11:06:21 AM
I find a litre of water with a sachet of Dioralyte is the business.
now that is the shit....
great for taking the morning after a heavy nite/weekend!!! :D
Title: Re: Skimmed Milk
Post by: stpauls on October 24, 2007, 11:09:54 AM
Quote from: Candyman on October 24, 2007, 11:08:42 AM
Quote from: AZOffaly on October 24, 2007, 11:06:21 AM
I find a litre of water with a sachet of Dioralyte is the business.
now that is the shit....
great for taking the morning after a heavy nite/weekend!!! :D

is that some form of laxative or something....  :P
Title: Re: Skimmed Milk
Post by: IrishKid on October 24, 2007, 11:10:39 AM
anyone fancy trying skimmed milk to see if it works?
Title: Re: Skimmed Milk
Post by: stpauls on October 24, 2007, 11:14:12 AM
Quote from: IrishKid on October 24, 2007, 11:10:39 AM
anyone fancy trying skimmed milk to see if it works?

i am going to the gym tonight so will give it a go and let you know, though i am assuming that you should not drink any water before during of after the session to really see the benefits?
Title: Re: Skimmed Milk
Post by: DirtyDozen12 on October 24, 2007, 11:15:02 AM
Quote from: IrishKid on October 24, 2007, 11:10:39 AM
anyone fancy trying skimmed milk to see if it works?

You be the guinea pig first Irish Pig and let us know how it works out for ye  ;)
Title: Re: Skimmed Milk
Post by: DirtyDozen12 on October 24, 2007, 11:16:51 AM
Quote from: stpauls on October 24, 2007, 11:14:12 AM
i am going to the gym tonight

St Pauls,  what are the good gyms to sign up for around Belfast? I am now working up in Belfast and was thinking about joining one.
Title: Re: Skimmed Milk
Post by: his holiness nb on October 24, 2007, 11:18:08 AM
I drink a pint of skimmed milk every night, including when I return from training and find it very good for the old rehydration.

One pint will do nicely, whereas with water you may get thirsty soon after the first pint after training.
Title: Re: Skimmed Milk
Post by: stpauls on October 24, 2007, 11:21:53 AM
DD12, the gym i am with is actually in Holywood, and is £32 a month, which isn't to bad for full access to the gym and the classes the leisure centre runs, as well as access to the swimming pool and health suite in Bangor. i know a guy who is paying £52 a month to use the samr facilities in Esporta.

I honestly couldn't tell you any other prices or quality of gyms in belfast as i never checked but there are a few different outlets around the city so shop around as they say!
Title: Re: Skimmed Milk
Post by: DirtyDozen12 on October 24, 2007, 11:27:03 AM
Cheers St Pauls, was thinking about LA fitness on Adelaide street as it would be nice & close and handy.  Think it works out at 35 bucks a month.  I heard that Biffy Tech students are able to get membership for £10.00 a month as they are entering the Sigerson or something the year!  Now thats value for money!!
Title: Re: Skimmed Milk
Post by: IrishKid on October 24, 2007, 11:27:17 AM
I would try it but I live in Spain and the milk here is rotten. :(

Plus it would involve some sort of exercise:)
Title: Re: Skimmed Milk
Post by: stpauls on October 24, 2007, 11:35:17 AM
Quote from: DirtyDozen12 on October 24, 2007, 11:27:03 AM
Cheers St Pauls, was thinking about LA fitness on Adelaide street as it would be nice & close and handy.  Think it works out at 35 bucks a month.  I heard that Biffy Tech students are able to get membership for £10.00 a month as they are entering the Sigerson or something the year!  Now thats value for money!!

i think one of the guys here in my office uses that gym so i will ask him about it and let you know asap!!
Title: Re: Skimmed Milk
Post by: Jinxy on October 24, 2007, 11:43:46 AM
Quote from: IrishKid on October 24, 2007, 10:22:40 AM
I was at an EU Research convention the other day and I was talking to a dehydration specialist and he had some interesting things to say, one which I found surprising. He said that the best thing you can drink to rehydrate yourself after a game is skimmed milk. He says your body will absorb it a lot better and quicker than any of the isotonic drinks that are out there on the market. Am waiting on Lucozade milk to hit the shelves .)

This is based on a study at Loughborough University where they compared it with water and powerade. It'll need a bit more research before it's conclusive though.
Title: Re: Skimmed Milk
Post by: IrishKid on October 24, 2007, 11:56:16 AM
If its for real it will kill all those sports drinks.
Title: Re: Skimmed Milk
Post by: his holiness nb on October 24, 2007, 12:01:41 PM
Not unless they package the milk differently.
Title: Re: Skimmed Milk
Post by: take_yer_points on October 24, 2007, 12:07:50 PM
DirtyDozen12,

If you have a car the gym out at Jordanstown Uni to do good price. Its £50 for the year for non-students and then £2 every time you use the fitness suite. Its handy for me cause I'm out there twice a week for evening classes.

Only thing is they don't have a swimming pool but the gym is top class - just been done up this summer.

My mate is a member in the Spirit one above the Holiday Inn. He says its good too. Paying about £35 a month I think and only had to sign up for 6 months.
Title: Re: Skimmed Milk
Post by: DirtyDozen12 on October 24, 2007, 12:32:34 PM
Only thing is TYP, it is not very busy out at Jordanstown...dont like having to wait about on machines and weights...also there also the embarressemnt of trying to lift weights your not fit for and making an arse of yourself in front of a crowd of people   :D
Title: Re: Skimmed Milk
Post by: take_yer_points on October 24, 2007, 12:38:51 PM
Its not too bad at all I think - from 4 to 5.30 or so on a Monday and Wednesday is my time.

The bonus thing is that when it does get a bit busy there's always a few young females to have a look at!!  ;)
Title: Re: Skimmed Milk
Post by: his holiness nb on October 24, 2007, 01:55:12 PM
Dirty Dozen / Take yer points, unless yer sipping skimmed milk on the way home from the gym feck off out of this thread :P
Title: Re: Skimmed Milk
Post by: DirtyDozen12 on October 24, 2007, 02:02:06 PM
Quote from: his holiness nb on October 24, 2007, 01:55:12 PM
Dirty Dozen / Take yer points, unless yer sipping skimmed milk on the way home from the gym feck off out of this thread :P

Jeez, never known someone to get so touchy about the white stuff  :P.  Just for you his holiness and to get this thread back on the proper topic...enjoy my friend!!!

(http://www.freedigitalphotos.net/image/s_bottle_of_milk.jpg)

For the record, skimmed milk sucks...its as viscous as water >:( 

The way i see it fat = taste
Title: Re: Skimmed Milk
Post by: stpauls on October 24, 2007, 02:04:08 PM
shit, just realised it was skimmed that we were talking about, not semi skimmed!! oops! i will not be using that method of hydration, my own piss would probably taste better!!
Title: Re: Chocolate Milk
Post by: Puckoon on October 24, 2007, 02:33:36 PM
sourced from International Journal of Sport Nutrition and Exercise Metabolism

Common sports drinks such as Gatorade supply those carbs, as well as fluids and electrolytes lost through sweat. However, more recent research suggests that adding protein to the mix may further hasten recovery. Hence the new wave of drinks such as Endurox R4 that include protein as well as higher doses of carbs.

In the study, nine male cyclists rode until their muscles were depleted of energy, then rested four hours and biked again until exhaustion. During the rest period, the cyclists drank low-fat chocolate milk, Gatorade, or Endurox R4. During a second round of exercise, the cyclists who drank the chocolate milk were able to bike about 50% longer than those who drank Endurox, and about as long as those who drank the Gatorade.

The findings suggest that chocolate milk has an optimal ratio of carbohydrates to protein to help refuel tired muscles, according to researcher Joel M. Stager, PhD, Indiana University kinesiology professor
Title: Re: Skimmed Milk
Post by: stpauls on October 24, 2007, 02:40:25 PM
i think i'll go for that instead, cheers puckoon! will have to remember to stop at tesco's on the way home. ;D
Title: Re: Skimmed Milk
Post by: Jinxy on October 24, 2007, 02:50:53 PM
Remember it has to be skimmed-chocolate milk though. ;D
Title: Re: Skimmed Milk
Post by: Puckoon on October 24, 2007, 04:03:04 PM
Breakfast of champions:

(http://www.nestle.ca/NR/rdonlyres/DACCED06-99D3-47B9-96D0-6E04A0ADD072/0/164620NesquikFFEng_3D.jpg)

Breakfast of champion puckoon:

(http://www.caseyjones.com/pages/BreakfastPicPSHOP.jpg)
Title: Re: Skimmed Milk
Post by: Gnevin on October 24, 2007, 04:45:18 PM
Skimmed is 1% fat ?
Title: Re: Skimmed Milk
Post by: DirtyDozen12 on October 24, 2007, 05:01:28 PM
Quote from: Gnevin on October 24, 2007, 04:45:18 PM
Skimmed is 1% fat ?

Sometimes even less:

Quote
Skimmed milk
This is the one for people who are following a low-fat diet, as only a trace (0.3 per cent) remains. Even so, skimmed milk is still highly nutritious and is an excellent source of calcium, and contains everything that whole and semi-skimmed milk has but without the fat. It can be used in all recipes requiring milk, but obviously won't give the same degree of creaminess.

I dont know why people would drink this piss when it has all the same quailties as whole milk, whihc is much more tasty  :)
Title: Re: Skimmed Milk
Post by: Puckoon on October 24, 2007, 07:54:09 PM
Quote from: Gnevin on October 24, 2007, 04:45:18 PM
Skimmed is 1% fat ?

Over here skimmed milk is 0% fat. 1% fat is what I drink. Whole milk over here is 2%.
Title: Re: Skimmed Milk
Post by: Jinxy on October 24, 2007, 10:21:00 PM
Quote from: Puckoon on October 24, 2007, 04:03:04 PM
Breakfast of champions:

(http://www.nestle.ca/NR/rdonlyres/DACCED06-99D3-47B9-96D0-6E04A0ADD072/0/164620NesquikFFEng_3D.jpg)

Breakfast of champion puckoon:

(http://www.caseyjones.com/pages/BreakfastPicPSHOP.jpg)


Strawberries have no business being anywhere near that plate.
Title: Re: Skimmed Milk
Post by: Frank Casey on October 24, 2007, 10:34:03 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on October 24, 2007, 10:21:00 PM

Strawberries have no business being anywhere near that plate.

Sure tis like having side salad with your chips or a diet coke with a jumbo sausage supper.
Title: Re: Skimmed Milk
Post by: Puckoon on October 25, 2007, 12:54:34 AM
Mrs Puckoon likes the strawberries. The lettuce bugged me more than the berries.
Title: Re: Skimmed Milk
Post by: oneillcup2007 on October 25, 2007, 01:57:27 PM
In the future will clubs bring their own cow to the county final to cut down on expenses!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Skimmed Milk
Post by: orangeman on October 25, 2007, 05:23:22 PM
What's wrong with a good drink of water ?
Title: Re: Skimmed Milk
Post by: Gnevin on October 25, 2007, 06:08:57 PM
Quote from: orangeman on October 25, 2007, 05:23:22 PM
What's wrong with a good drink of water ?
Water is so 1999. No magic beans in it
Title: Re: Chocolate Milk
Post by: Puckoon on October 25, 2007, 06:19:58 PM
Quote from: Puckoon on October 24, 2007, 02:33:36 PM
sourced from International Journal of Sport Nutrition and Exercise Metabolism

Common sports drinks such as Gatorade supply those carbs, as well as fluids and electrolytes lost through sweat. However, more recent research suggests that adding protein to the mix may further hasten recovery. Hence the new wave of drinks such as Endurox R4 that include protein as well as higher doses of carbs.

In the study, nine male cyclists rode until their muscles were depleted of energy, then rested four hours and biked again until exhaustion. During the rest period, the cyclists drank low-fat chocolate milk, Gatorade, or Endurox R4. During a second round of exercise, the cyclists who drank the chocolate milk were able to bike about 50% longer than those who drank Endurox, and about as long as those who drank the Gatorade.

The findings suggest that chocolate milk has an optimal ratio of carbohydrates to protein to help refuel tired muscles, according to researcher Joel M. Stager, PhD, Indiana University kinesiology professor


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Quote from: orangeman on October 25, 2007, 05:23:22 PM
What's wrong with a good drink of water ?

The one failing control experiment in the above study according to the researcher quoted above, was that its impossible to rule out a placebo effect of these sports drinks, as they didnt have a control group who just drank water.
Title: Re: Skimmed Milk
Post by: tyssam5 on October 25, 2007, 07:22:18 PM
Quote from: Puckoon on October 24, 2007, 07:54:09 PM
Quote from: Gnevin on October 24, 2007, 04:45:18 PM
Skimmed is 1% fat ?

Over here skimmed milk is 0% fat. 1% fat is what I drink. Whole milk over here is 2%.

? Whole milk is something closer to 4%, 2% milk in the US is about the same as semi-skimmed at home.
Title: Re: Chocolate Milk
Post by: Jinxy on October 25, 2007, 09:39:35 PM
Quote from: Puckoon on October 25, 2007, 06:19:58 PM

The one failing control experiment in the above study according to the researcher quoted above, was that its impossible to rule out a placebo effect of these sports drinks, as they didnt have a control group who just drank water.

They did in the Loughborough study though (the one with skimmed milk as opposed to chocolate milk).
Title: Re: Skimmed Milk
Post by: ONeill on October 25, 2007, 11:56:41 PM
Good for the teeth and bones too. Canadian Ricey McMenamin is obviously a devout milk drinker. That's another job you never read in the match programme. Milkman.