Rule Change Needed to Stop Puke Keep-Ball

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Exclusion Zone for Joe Brolly
https://m.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/exclusion-zone-can-destroy-blanket-joe-brolly-outlines-his-plan-to-make-football-a-skillbased-spectacle-once-again-37368216.html

Unbelievable. The man is mentally retarded. Imagine coming up with this idea, and then imagine printing it in a newspaper.
Joe, no one is laughing with you, everyone is laughing at you.

you may disagree but that the line in bold is out of order

No it's not. He's a Derry retard.

[BennyHarp]

Unless I'm missing something, a team defending  30-yard free would have to leave the goalie on his own defending the goals if the attacking team's forwards all stood back from the exclusion zone?

I was thinking the same thing - Am I right in saying that, if all forwards pulled out of the "exclusion zone" and we managed to lay off a short handpass to an on running speedster then he would literally have a clear run on the goalkeeper with only his marker flailing behind him? Would all other defenders be stood with their tip toes on the edge of the exclusion zone watching helplessly as a goal is scored? If this is the best that Joe can come with after thinking about it for a long time then it really doesn't say much about his understanding of the game.

[five points]

No great difficulty to referee, so long as everyone can accept that a passive transgression (ie Johnny wanders over halfway line, does a count, quickly wanders back.... without getting involved in play) by a player does not merit a punishment.

How would that work? And a referee is supposed to be following the play, not constantly doing headcounts over half the field.

[thewobbler]

No great difficulty to referee, so long as everyone can accept that a passive transgression (ie Johnny wanders over halfway line, does a count, quickly wanders back.... without getting involved in play) by a player does not merit a punishment.

How would that work? And a referee is supposed to be following the play, not constantly doing headcounts over half the field.

If you were to take such a rule in a completely literal way, it would be impossible to referee. As you say, their head would need to spin all match long.

If the rule through were to be written so that only active participants are counted, it would make things much easier. So if Dublin's CHB wanders inside the opposition half making 10 Dubs in there, it's not penalised unless said CHB tries to become an active part the game e.g. becoming an option to receive the ball, or (in reverse), closing off an angle of attack.

[blewuporstuffed]

No great difficulty to referee, so long as everyone can accept that a passive transgression (ie Johnny wanders over halfway line, does a count, quickly wanders back.... without getting involved in play) by a player does not merit a punishment.

How would that work? And a referee is supposed to be following the play, not constantly doing headcounts over half the field.

If you were to take such a rule in a completely literal way, it would be impossible to referee. As you say, their head would need to spin all match long.

If the rule through were to be written so that only active participants are counted, it would make things much easier. So if Dublin's CHB wanders inside the opposition half making 10 Dubs in there, it's not penalised unless said CHB tries to become an active part the game e.g. becoming an option to receive the ball, or (in reverse), closing off an angle of attack.

Ah Jesus, then you get into the same sort of farce they have with offside in soccer with who is active and who isnt.

[thewobbler]

No great difficulty to referee, so long as everyone can accept that a passive transgression (ie Johnny wanders over halfway line, does a count, quickly wanders back.... without getting involved in play) by a player does not merit a punishment.

How would that work? And a referee is supposed to be following the play, not constantly doing headcounts over half the field.

If you were to take such a rule in a completely literal way, it would be impossible to referee. As you say, their head would need to spin all match long.

If the rule through were to be written so that only active participants are counted, it would make things much easier. So if Dublin's CHB wanders inside the opposition half making 10 Dubs in there, it's not penalised unless said CHB tries to become an active part the game e.g. becoming an option to receive the ball, or (in reverse), closing off an angle of attack.

Ah Jesus, then you get into the same sort of farce they have with offside in soccer with who is active and who isnt.

Yeah you would. But 9 times out 10, passive/active is beyond obvious and nobody bats an eyelid. It *should* be easier to determine using a 45m line too, as a) in soccer the point of offside is an imaginary and ever-moving line, and b) being ahead of the ball in Gaelic would make you immediately active (for forwards, it makes you a potential target, for defenders, it means you are blocking off a passing line).

[rrhf]

Time to become Aussie rules.

[Itchy]

Let's just do nothing, sure it's a great spectacle the way it is.

[lenny]

No great difficulty to referee, so long as everyone can accept that a passive transgression (ie Johnny wanders over halfway line, does a count, quickly wanders back.... without getting involved in play) by a player does not merit a punishment.

How would that work? And a referee is supposed to be following the play, not constantly doing headcounts over half the field.

In netball the players have their position on their jersey. Gaelic teams could easily have 5 players with a large A on their jersey (front and back) for attacker and 5 with a large D for defender. These players aren't allowed in the other half of the field. This allows 4 transition players who can go into either half and these players could just have ordinary numbers. This would be easy to police as the ref doesn't have to count players. Subs would have to wear an A or D if they were replacing forwards or defenders. Any rule changes need to be relatively easy to ref. There are numerous very skilful players who would benefit from this change. Think of players like colin corkery who was class to watch but wouldn't fit into the modern day county team because he can't run up and down the pitch all day. Having designated forwards and defenders with a few transition players makes room again for different types of player.

[cjx]

More convinced than ever that as in basketball in '70s shot clock is the only answer. In 2nd half
2 min
In final added time/extra time 1 min

All goalkeeper kickouts from small rectangle. Inhibits short kick outs

Revert to fistpass (as was faced up in 1950s after the Antrim 1946-48 team hardly ever kicked the ball in open play)

Mark from all free's, kick-outs and sidelines

Trying to police exclusion zones or back passing impossible! Remember club should be king and think Junior Championship on a muddy winter pitch

[Rossfan]

https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/sport/gaa/gaa-chiefs-considering-a-return-to-sin-bin-system-872884.html

How will Refs be more consistent in operating the sin bin than the black card?
Good luck with trying to get hurley refs to implement the no throwing rule

[tippabu]

More convinced than ever that as in basketball in '70s shot clock is the only answer. In 2nd half
2 min
In final added time/extra time 1 min

All goalkeeper kickouts from small rectangle. Inhibits short kick outs

Revert to fistpass (as was faced up in 1950s after the Antrim 1946-48 team hardly ever kicked the ball in open play)

Mark from all free's, kick-outs and sidelines

Trying to police exclusion zones or back passing impossible! Remember club should be king and think Junior Championship on a muddy winter pitch

I would hate a shot clock for so many reasons

[Maiden1]

Couldn't we just ban Dublin or maybe just Jim Gavin from coaching them, they are too fecking good.  I had a bet on Tyrone to cause an upset (7-1 in a 2 horse race surely has to be value ??    ) but was contemplating cutting the grass at 1/2 time as it was all over.

Every so often someone will put up a game that ended 1-4 to 0-3 and say it's the death of football but in All Ireland finals at least there has only been 1 decade where there was more scores.

           Score Av           Attendance Av
           ---------          -----------
1890s           12.0           3,900
1900s           14.0           8,800
1910s           15.6           15,722
1920s           13.6           23,270
1930s           22.8           42,924
1940s           22.5           59,146
1950s           23.6           76,820
1960s           23.7           77,647
1970s           34.3           70,407
1980s           27.6           66,404
1990s           27.9           64,352
2000s           31.3           78,456
2010s           31.9           82,179

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More convinced than ever that as in basketball in '70s shot clock is the only answer. In 2nd half
2 min
In final added time/extra time 1 min

All goalkeeper kickouts from small rectangle. Inhibits short kick outs

Revert to fistpass (as was faced up in 1950s after the Antrim 1946-48 team hardly ever kicked the ball in open play)

Mark from all free's, kick-outs and sidelines

Trying to police exclusion zones or back passing impossible! Remember club should be king and think Junior Championship on a muddy winter pitch

Shot clock won't work. It will never work. It will never be implemented.

I would like a shot clock on people suggesting a 'shot clock' It is suggested weekly at this stage. 
It's the idea people who probably have never played the game or people who have little understanding of basketball or sport in general. It's the "I've been down the pub and a few people were chatting about Gaelic football and to show my knowledge of all things sports related, I'll suggest a shot clock rule change so I fit in" suggestion.

[lenny]

Letters on jerseys, eh? And all this for the likes of Corkery who couldn't walk by the chippy.

She's finished.

Corkery was a class player to watch. This rule would guarantee no blanket defences and is easy to implement and ref.