Fake news, media manipulation etc

Started by imtommygunn, February 26, 2017, 11:23:05 AM

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imtommygunn

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/feb/26/robert-mercer-breitbart-war-on-media-steve-bannon-donald-trump-nigel-farage?CMP=twt_gu

Interesting article on the use of big data modelling for political propaganda in addition to how it can be used to impact on human psyche etc.

A bit nerdy in places mind but very interesting / eye opening.

seafoid

#1
Quote from: imtommygunn on February 26, 2017, 11:23:05 AM
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/feb/26/robert-mercer-breitbart-war-on-media-steve-bannon-donald-trump-nigel-farage?CMP=twt_gu

Interesting article on the use of big data modelling for political propaganda in addition to how it can be used to impact on human psyche etc.

A bit nerdy in places mind but very interesting / eye opening.
Very interesting.  The thing is, Trump has to deliver. It's ok to stir up emotions but you have to deliver.
The people who voted for him are the poorest. They have the lowest life expectancy, the lowest productivity

http://www.nybooks.com/articles/2016/11/10/american-right-inside-the-sacrifice-zone/

"red states are poorer and have more teen mothers, more divorce, worse health, more obesity, more trauma-related deaths, more low-birth-weight babies, and lower school enrollment. On average, people in red states die five years earlier than people in blue states. Indeed, the gap in life expectancy between Louisiana (75.7) and Connecticut (80.7) is the same as that between the United States and Nicaragua."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ffg31Keox4U
"f**k it, just score"- Donaghy   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbxG2WwVRjU

shark

Quote from: seafoid on February 26, 2017, 02:02:16 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on February 26, 2017, 11:23:05 AM
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/feb/26/robert-mercer-breitbart-war-on-media-steve-bannon-donald-trump-nigel-farage?CMP=twt_gu

Interesting article on the use of big data modelling for political propaganda in addition to how it can be used to impact on human psyche etc.

A bit nerdy in places mind but very interesting / eye opening.
Very interesting.  The thing is, Trump has to deliver. It's ok to stir up emotions but you have to deliver.
The people who voted for him are the poorest. They have the lowest life expectancy, the lowest productivity

http://www.nybooks.com/articles/2016/11/10/american-right-inside-the-sacrifice-zone/

"red states are poorer and have more teen mothers, more divorce, worse health, more obesity, more trauma-related deaths, more low-birth-weight babies, and lower school enrollment. On average, people in red states die five years earlier than people in blue states. Indeed, the gap in life expectancy between Louisiana (75.7) and Connecticut (80.7) is the same as that between the United States and Nicaragua."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ffg31Keox4U

That's essentially what Janen Ganesh was writing in the FT recently. Trump, and his ilk, have their chance now. But unless they deliver then this will all pass with time.  He was urging for patience in the fight back rather than the futility of marching, which for all the hype achieves nothing tangible. Bannon and his buddies now have to prove that life is going to be better for enough of those that voted for them.

seafoid

One quote

"You can take an existing trending topic, such as fake news, and then weaponise it. You can turn it against the very media that uncovered it. Viewed in a certain light, fake news is a suicide bomb at the heart of our information system. Strapped to the live body of us – the mainstream media.
One of the things that concerns Howard most is the hundreds of thousands of "sleeper" bots they've found. Twitter accounts that have tweeted only once or twice and are now sitting quietly waiting for a trigger: some sort of crisis where they will rise up and come together to drown out all other sources of information."

This is all about algorithms and bots

http://gizmodo.com/ashley-madison-code-shows-more-women-and-more-bots-1727613924


"f**k it, just score"- Donaghy   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbxG2WwVRjU


AZOffaly

#5
Are you sure the people who voted for Trump were the poorest?  I thought in the analytics after the election it showed that a majority of those who earned 50 to 100k voted for him.


ONeill

Quote from: seafoid on February 26, 2017, 02:31:24 PM
http://www.nybooks.com/daily/2016/11/11/facebook-twitter-trump-how-internet-changed-election/

According to the website Twitter Audit, 4,645,254 of Donald Trump's 11,972,303 Twitter followers—about 39 percent—were bots, compared to 524,141 of Hillary Clinton's 10,696,761, or just 5 percent. Here was another way that Trump triumphed.

FECK ME. If true.
I wanna have my kicks before the whole shithouse goes up in flames.

maigheo

Quote from: AZOffaly on February 26, 2017, 11:31:10 PM
Are you sure the people who voted for Trump were the poorest?  I thought in the analytics after the election it showed that a majority of those who earned 50 to 100k voted for him.
Would be ignoring most of Seafoids posts on here if you are looking for balance and facts

whitey

Quote from: ONeill on February 27, 2017, 12:23:56 AM
Quote from: seafoid on February 26, 2017, 02:31:24 PM
http://www.nybooks.com/daily/2016/11/11/facebook-twitter-trump-how-internet-changed-election/

According to the website Twitter Audit, 4,645,254 of Donald Trump's 11,972,303 Twitter followers—about 39 percent—were bots, compared to 524,141 of Hillary Clinton's 10,696,761, or just 5 percent. Here was another way that Trump triumphed.

FECK ME. If true.

I wouldn't be too worried about it......it just balances out the overwhelmingly positive coverage the fawning lackeys at CNN and The NY Times  gave Hillary during the campaign

seafoid

Quote from: AZOffaly on February 26, 2017, 11:31:10 PM
Are you sure the people who voted for Trump were the poorest?  I thought in the analytics after the election it showed that a majority of those who earned 50 to 100k voted for him.
GOP states have lower average incomes. Maybe the country club Republicans bring the numbers up . Trump basically won the countryside.
"f**k it, just score"- Donaghy   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbxG2WwVRjU

seafoid

US inequality between rich and poor is higher than the 1920s . Such levels of inequality breed political polarisation . Trump uses it to attack the press.

http://voxeu.org/article/political-aftermath-financial-crises-going-extremes
"f**k it, just score"- Donaghy   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbxG2WwVRjU

sid waddell

German police quash Breitbart story of mob setting fire to Dortmund church

Country's politicians warn against fake news after Breitbart website said group chanting 'Allahu Akbar' vandalised church on New Year's Eve

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/jan/07/german-police-quash-breitbart-story-of-mob-setting-fire-to-dortmund-church

German media and politicians have warned against an election-year spike in fake news after the rightwing website Breitbart claimed a mob chanting "Allahu Akbar" had set fire to a church in the city of Dortmund on New Year's Eve.

After the report by the US site was widely shared on social media, the city's police clarified that no "extraordinary or spectacular" incidents had marred the festivities.

The local newspaper, Ruhr Nachrichten, said elements of its online reporting on New Year's Eve had been distorted by Breitbart to produce "fake news, hate and propaganda".

Hardy

Quote from: sid waddell on February 27, 2017, 11:31:56 AM
German police quash Breitbart story of mob setting fire to Dortmund church

Country's politicians warn against fake news after Breitbart website said group chanting 'Allahu Akbar' vandalised church on New Year's Eve

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/jan/07/german-police-quash-breitbart-story-of-mob-setting-fire-to-dortmund-church

German media and politicians have warned against an election-year spike in fake news after the rightwing website Breitbart claimed a mob chanting "Allahu Akbar" had set fire to a church in the city of Dortmund on New Year's Eve.

After the report by the US site was widely shared on social media, the city's police clarified that no "extraordinary or spectacular" incidents had marred the festivities.

The local newspaper, Ruhr Nachrichten, said elements of its online reporting on New Year's Eve had been distorted by Breitbart to produce "fake news, hate and propaganda".

Lügenpresse, indeed!

Denn Forever

Wasn't Obama who made great use of Social Media in his first election?  Did he create the monster?
I have more respect for a man
that says what he means and
means what he says...