The Many Faces of US Politics...

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J70

Quote from: foxcommander on October 12, 2017, 06:23:15 PM
Of course nobody had a clue.
BFF's



Quick. Mention something about Donald Trump to shift the focus

Of course Obama knew. That's why he sent his teenage daughter to work for him.  ::)

And given the pussy grabber's record, and that of the Fox News elite, this is clearly a non-partisan, societal issue, not a political one. There is another story this week about a Boston University geologist subjecting female grad students to dog's abuse while on various expeditions in Antarctica, threatening their future careers if they spoke out. You have the head of Uber and other Silicon Valley heads being turfed out over the past year.

Some men are scumbags. Powerful scumbags just have a much more extensive reach.

Hopefully more women will now have the courage to expose them.

J70

Here you go Foxcommander, a couple of sexual harassers and rumoured worse with their wives (Actually, I've no idea if the middle woman is Weinstein's wife).


heganboy

Quote from: HiMucker on October 12, 2017, 08:39:59 AM
You can label Trump many things, he is a despicable human being, but a "failed businessman", is not one of them.

Oh really? and why would you say that?
Never underestimate the predictability of stupidity

HiMucker

Quote from: heganboy on October 12, 2017, 07:09:25 PM
Quote from: HiMucker on October 12, 2017, 08:39:59 AM
You can label Trump many things, he is a despicable human being, but a "failed businessman", is not one of them.

Oh really? and why would you say that?
Honestly not interested in getting in to a debate about this as I have zero time for trump, but I wouldnt be labelling a billionaire business man as a "failed business man", but thats just me.  Look you can talk about the merits and integrity of how he accumulated that money until the cows come home.  If you want to label him a failed business man on the back of that, knock yourself out.  But there is plenty other failures out there.  Chelsea owner, former A.C. Milan owner....  Maybe he cries himself to sleep on his private jet at all his business failures.  A failed human being is how id describe him.

Eamonnca1

Quote from: HiMucker on October 12, 2017, 08:47:18 PM
Honestly not interested in getting in to a debate about this as I have zero time for trump, but I wouldnt be labelling a billionaire business man as a "failed business man", but thats just me.  Look you can talk about the merits and integrity of how he accumulated that money until the cows come home.  If you want to label him a failed business man on the back of that, knock yourself out.  But there is plenty other failures out there.  Chelsea owner, former A.C. Milan owner....  Maybe he cries himself to sleep on his private jet at all his business failures.  A failed human being is how id describe him.

If Trump started with nothing then you might have something. He started with a million bucks his dad gave him. If he'd put that money in a mutual fund he'd be a lot wealthier than he is today. He has a string of bankruptcies behind him and his business model seems to be to refuse to pay his bills after getting work done.

foxcommander

Quote from: J70 on October 12, 2017, 06:48:03 PM
Quote from: foxcommander on October 12, 2017, 06:23:15 PM
Of course nobody had a clue.
BFF's



Quick. Mention something about Donald Trump to shift the focus

Of course Obama knew. That's why he sent his teenage daughter to work for him.  ::)

And given the pussy grabber's record,

Didn't take you too long sir. Quicker shift than the slow set at the Limelight playing a Garth Brooks ballad.

The cults of the left aren't adverse to the odd sacrifice now, are they?
Every second of the day there's a Democrat telling a lie

J70

Quote from: foxcommander on October 12, 2017, 09:56:49 PM
Quote from: J70 on October 12, 2017, 06:48:03 PM
Quote from: foxcommander on October 12, 2017, 06:23:15 PM
Of course nobody had a clue.
BFF's



Quick. Mention something about Donald Trump to shift the focus

Of course Obama knew. That's why he sent his teenage daughter to work for him.  ::)

And given the pussy grabber's record,

Didn't take you too long sir. Quicker shift than the slow set at the Limelight playing a Garth Brooks ballad.

The cults of the left aren't adverse to the odd sacrifice now, are they?

Only one person politicizing this here and it's not me.

And when you can find some statement of mine that makes any claims that people on the left are less prone to personal failings than those on the right, come back to me.

foxcommander

Quote from: J70 on October 12, 2017, 10:01:58 PM
Only one person politicizing this here and it's not me.

And when you can find some statement of mine that makes any claims that people on the left are less prone to personal failings than those on the right, come back to me.

J70 - I never said you did.


To be fair though him being a democrat donor has made it pretty uncomfortable for the left to admit he's one of theirs. Not politically correct behaviour we've come to expect.

It even took Hillary 5 days to make a statement condemning him.

Look - the president, like Bill Clinton before him, have a penchant for the ladies. We knew that from the bush tapes. The record speed at which Donald gets hammered for any other little faux pas is breathtaking. Even mispronouncing a word goes viral in 5 minutes.

I do love the word "hypocrisy", especially when pious virtues of the left have been shoved down your throat by the likes of CNN. Choke on that Don Lemon.
Every second of the day there's a Democrat telling a lie

J70

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Quote from: foxcommander on October 12, 2017, 11:33:50 PM
Quote from: J70 on October 12, 2017, 10:01:58 PM
Only one person politicizing this here and it's not me.

And when you can find some statement of mine that makes any claims that people on the left are less prone to personal failings than those on the right, come back to me.

J70 - I never said you did.


To be fair though him being a democrat donor has made it pretty uncomfortable for the left to admit he's one of theirs. Not politically correct behaviour we've come to expect.

It even took Hillary 5 days to make a statement condemning him.

Look - the president, like Bill Clinton before him, have a penchant for the ladies. We knew that from the bush tapes. The record speed at which Donald gets hammered for any other little faux pas is breathtaking. Even mispronouncing a word goes viral in 5 minutes.

I do love the word "hypocrisy", especially when pious virtues of the left have been shoved down your throat by the likes of CNN. Choke on that Don Lemon.

Hypocrisy would be defending or condoning sexual harassment by Weinstein or Clinton while condemning Trump or someone else for the same.

And yes, groups as a whole are always quicker to pull the trigger on opponents while they're more likely to give the benefit of the doubt or wait and see with their own side. Welcome to human nature. Especially when they're political donors! But I haven't seen one person in this board prevaricate in their condemnation of Weinstein.

And sexual harassment and abuse has nothing to do with political correctness. It's abhorrent behaviour, full stop, not some debatable choice of words.

Finally, I'm not uncomfortable with this scandal whatsoever. I'm glad he's been outed, and hopefully plenty more like him suffer the same fate.

heganboy

Foxy,
Wholeheartedly agree about the point scoring on both sides.

Though why you all still care about Hilary is beyond me. It's over, she lost. So what if it's 5 days later, private uninvolved citizen at this point?

The pious wankers crack me up too,  and if anyone on this board wants to see a hypocrite, look in the mirror, we are human and we justify our own shit to ourselves. But closet politicians being hard on the gay community, socialists with Swiss bank accounts, family first advocates with mistresses, don't make hypocrisy your job.
Never underestimate the predictability of stupidity

whitey

Quote from: Eamonnca1 on October 12, 2017, 09:55:37 PM
Quote from: HiMucker on October 12, 2017, 08:47:18 PM
Honestly not interested in getting in to a debate about this as I have zero time for trump, but I wouldnt be labelling a billionaire business man as a "failed business man", but thats just me.  Look you can talk about the merits and integrity of how he accumulated that money until the cows come home.  If you want to label him a failed business man on the back of that, knock yourself out.  But there is plenty other failures out there.  Chelsea owner, former A.C. Milan owner....  Maybe he cries himself to sleep on his private jet at all his business failures.  A failed human being is how id describe him.

If Trump started with nothing then you might have something. He started with a million bucks his dad gave him. If he'd put that money in a mutual fund he'd be a lot wealthier than he is today. He has a string of bankruptcies behind him and his business model seems to be to refuse to pay his bills after getting work done.

You spend too much time listening to Elizabeth Warren

http://www.politifact.com/punditfact/statements/2015/dec/09/occupy-democrats/occupy-democrats-say-simple-investment-trumps-fath/

HiMucker

Quote from: Eamonnca1 on October 12, 2017, 09:55:37 PM
Quote from: HiMucker on October 12, 2017, 08:47:18 PM
Honestly not interested in getting in to a debate about this as I have zero time for trump, but I wouldnt be labelling a billionaire business man as a "failed business man", but thats just me.  Look you can talk about the merits and integrity of how he accumulated that money until the cows come home.  If you want to label him a failed business man on the back of that, knock yourself out.  But there is plenty other failures out there.  Chelsea owner, former A.C. Milan owner....  Maybe he cries himself to sleep on his private jet at all his business failures.  A failed human being is how id describe him.

If Trump started with nothing then you might have something. He started with a million bucks his dad gave him. If he'd put that money in a mutual fund he'd be a lot wealthier than he is today. He has a string of bankruptcies behind him and his business model seems to be to refuse to pay his bills after getting work done.
Wise up FFS

Longshanks



If Trump started with nothing then you might have something. He started with a million bucks his dad gave him. If he'd put that money in a mutual fund he'd be a lot wealthier than he is today. He has a string of bankruptcies behind him and his business model seems to be to refuse to pay his bills after getting work done.
[/quote]Wise up FFS
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In fairness there are numerous occasions of bankruptcies and also unpaid debts which he seemingly just ignores, this isn't to take away from his riches but he has failed alot of people in money that he owes them over the years.
I can't see how he can be rated as a good businessman, perhaps a showman yes but he is not the brains of the operation.

J70

Quote from: Longshanks on October 13, 2017, 01:25:34 PM


If Trump started with nothing then you might have something. He started with a million bucks his dad gave him. If he'd put that money in a mutual fund he'd be a lot wealthier than he is today. He has a string of bankruptcies behind him and his business model seems to be to refuse to pay his bills after getting work done.
Wise up FFS
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In fairness there are numerous occasions of bankruptcies and also unpaid debts which he seemingly just ignores, this isn't to take away from his riches but he has failed alot of people in money that he owes them over the years.
I can't see how he can be rated as a good businessman, perhaps a showman yes but he is not the brains of the operation.
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About ten years ago I worked for a small company that did a lot of work for big NY real estate outfits, but refused to do business with Trump because he'd stiffed them a few times. And they were far from alone, according to the numerous stories that came out in the campaign.

Gabriel_Hurl