Mayo have stated that the county team are going away in April, for a training camp. Does this signify the end of the month of the club! Will other counties follow suit? Should clubs just realise that their players are now no longer available to them? I have strong views on this but most Mayo supporters that I speak to seem to be of the opinion that clubs dont matter.
The club month shìte was always nonsense. If you think teams playing championship in early and mid-May aren't going to be going full pelt in April you're living in fantasy land.
The CPA wanted this free April.
Better to have a more leisurely NFL with alternate weekends for Club and County.
Then intensive Inter County Championships schedules with AIFs end July/1st weekend Aug.
Quote from: REDCOL on December 04, 2017, 05:44:36 PM
Mayo have stated that the county team are going away in April, for a training camp. Does this signify the end of the month of the club! Will other counties follow suit? Should clubs just realise that their players are now no longer available to them? I have strong views on this but most Mayo supporters that I speak to seem to be of the opinion that clubs dont matter.
There is talk of talking a Home league game away from Mayo for such a misdemeanour. That would be doing Mayo a favour as they are shocking at home in the League!
If Mr Duffy wanted all of April for club football only then he should have enforced that rule instead he left individual county boards to decide...
Kerry are looking to delay their club championship next year until September. Their championship opener is penciled in for June 2 at home to either Clare or Limerick surely they are one county that could have April free for club football?
Quote from: Blowitupref on December 04, 2017, 07:54:45 PM
Kerry are looking to delay their club championship next year until September. Their championship opener is penciled in for June 2 at home to either Clare or Limerick surely they are one county that could have April free for club football?
Kerry plan to have the senior club, intermediate and junior championships in April - at least two rounds anyway.
Quote from: REDCOL on December 04, 2017, 05:44:36 PM
Mayo have stated that the county team are going away in April, for a training camp. Does this signify the end of the month of the club! Will other counties follow suit? Should clubs just realise that their players are now no longer available to them? I have strong views on this but most Mayo supporters that I speak to seem to be of the opinion that clubs dont matter.
Redcol, are these supporters those that go to Mayo matches only and don't contribute in any way to the running of their local club? I know I drifted away for a few years but was back involved a bit this year. Hope next year to be more involved as I hope to be able to drive. I think it's a farce the way the Mayo leagues are in discussions to be restructured. I mean how anyone could come out and state that 11 league games are too much is beyond belief. I know there are other lesser ranking competitions in the county. Anyway, will the club scene be parked in certain counties or will it be full steam ahead minus county players nationwide?
The problem here is club interests don't even align with club players' interests. The system is fúcked from the bottom up.
The April month of the club struck me as a bad idea immediately and one that will be abused unless rules are strictly enforced. Previously, the existing rules have been flouted....I've no confidence in things changing.
Quote from: From the Bunker on December 04, 2017, 07:30:53 PM
Quote from: REDCOL on December 04, 2017, 05:44:36 PM
Mayo have stated that the county team are going away in April, for a training camp. Does this signify the end of the month of the club! Will other counties follow suit? Should clubs just realise that their players are now no longer available to them? I have strong views on this but most Mayo supporters that I speak to seem to be of the opinion that clubs dont matter.
There is talk of talking a Home league game away from Mayo for such a misdemeanour. That would be doing Mayo a favour as they are shocking at home in the League!
The loss of a home gate in the league would be worth a pretty penny in terms of Mayo's finances (especially given the crowds Mayo get at home).
8 starred league games out of 11 in Mayo this year. Two in April out of a period of five weeks. There'll be one round of championship in April too. Will the amount of starred games be lower if Mayo exit in June?
Does starred mean "no county players"?
Quote from: magpie seanie on January 26, 2018, 10:33:32 AM
Does starred mean "no county players"?
Yes. Which means eight clubs, if they have county players will just see their county players 6 times. (pending Mayos involvement in the AI series.
Edit the round of championship in April WILL have co players in case I have you all confused.
Quote from: Farrandeelin on January 26, 2018, 10:38:10 AM
Quote from: magpie seanie on January 26, 2018, 10:33:32 AM
Does starred mean "no county players"?
Yes. Which means eight clubs, if they have county players will just see their county players 6 times. (pending Mayos involvement in the AI series.
Edit the round of championship in April WILL have co players in case I have you all confused.
How many seasons have you ran with the starred games? We did it for a couple of seasons (maybe even one) and it was scrapped, clubs couldnt get their heads around it mostly
I think in Kildare the talk is that there will be a game in May, two weeks before the county are out.
That is all well and good but are the lads going to be released for training sessions or, as has happened in the past they get one or two nights with their club team and then play the game.
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 26, 2018, 10:58:22 AM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on January 26, 2018, 10:38:10 AM
Quote from: magpie seanie on January 26, 2018, 10:33:32 AM
Does starred mean "no county players"?
Yes. Which means eight clubs, if they have county players will just see their county players 6 times. (pending Mayos involvement in the AI series.
Edit the round of championship in April WILL have co players in case I have you all confused.
How many seasons have you ran with the starred games? We did it for a couple of seasons (maybe even one) and it was scrapped, clubs couldnt get their heads around it mostly
A good few at this stage. Not sure how many exactly. It's good in a way for non county players to get games, on the other hand it kind of shows up how clubs are treated. It was 5 or 6 starred games but 8 I think is too much.
Even 5 or 6 is a bit too much. It means the league is meaningless. I thought when they separated league and championship status it was a great thing but it meant they could take the p1ss with county players.
I think having a play off is best with starred and non starred games, top four play off and bottom four play off once the county players are back for their clubs!
With the weather playing puck twice, it doesn't look good for some counties' month of April kept free.
This club month was widely criticised when it was announced. It would appear that those people will be proved correct.
https://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/gaa/galway-to-get-clear-run-at-mayo-as-club-action-delayed-469124.html
Quote from: ballinaman on April 05, 2018, 09:50:39 AM
https://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/gaa/galway-to-get-clear-run-at-mayo-as-club-action-delayed-469124.html
This month of the club is really working out well.
I've read through the article and it says no club championship games will be played.
It doesn't say no league games will be played, nor does it say league games will be played without county players. Of course this could be the case, but Cormican either didn't ask or it didn't suit was he's trying to suggest.
League games are being played, in fact All Ireland champions Corofin are out this Saturday against An Cheathrú Rua, the championship is starting in May as it always does in Galway, that article is trying to make a story out of nothing.
Will county players play? Maybe answer that next week. ;)
They might play this weekend but after that I doubt it.
Quote from: Duine Eile on April 05, 2018, 11:51:00 AM
They might play this weekend but after that I doubt it.
Ya. And that was always going the be the problem with this month of the club. Basically it was part of a coordinated plan put forward by the CPA. In isolation it is pointless. A complete package of changes is needed.
Problem was their package was mad altogether proposing some kind of League Championship - was it of 3 elevens?
Anyway 2 Rounds if Senior and Inter Championship in Ros weekends 14/15th answer 21st/22nd.
If the Co squad was in action on 13th May what would happen?
Quote from: Rossfan on April 05, 2018, 01:13:03 PM
Problem was their package was mad altogether proposing some kind of League Championship - was it of 3 elevens?
Anyway 2 Rounds if Senior and Inter Championship in Ros weekends 14/15th answer 21st/22nd.
If the Co squad was in action on 13th May what would happen?
If you were playing Galway or Mayo then I'm sure things would be different.
Quote from: Rossfan on April 05, 2018, 01:13:03 PM
Problem was their package was mad altogether proposing some kind of League Championship - was it of 3 elevens?
Anyway 2 Rounds if Senior and Inter Championship in Ros weekends 14/15th answer 21st/22nd.
If the Co squad was in action on 13th May what would happen?
Roscommon start out later so it is easier to fit it in, but the idea that the curtains are coming down on club access to county players so soon in April is a disgrace and shows that the main problem hasn't changed at all, outside of the 10 day rule (which should be cut down to 7 imo) the clubs should have access to their county players, no excuses.
Incidentally the championship draw hasn't even happened here yet, guess that's what happens when you have no real designs on still being around in the race for Sam come late July/autumn.