Tyrone County Football and Hurling

[Mikhailov]

Recently Retired Opt Out Team for the Craic

1 - Mc Anenly
2 - Liam Rafferty
3 - Ronan Mc Namee
4 - Cormac Munroe
5 - Peter Og Macartin
6 - Ruairi Brennan
7 - Niall Sludden
8 - Mc Clure
9 - Padraig Mc Nulty
10 - Richard Donnelly
11 - Mark Bradley
12 - Nathan Donnelly
13 - Lee Brennan
14 - Paul Donaghy
15 - Emmett Mc Nabb

No Peter Teague?

Yes forgot about Teauge - I thought he was still on the Panel

Michael Conroy?

[NotedObserver]

No room for tiernan McCann

[smort]

Yous are starting to make the point for him

[RoundBall]

The following team would give that team a challenge too

Benny Gallen.
2. Hugh Pat McGeary.
3. Peter Teague.
4. Conor Quinn.
5. Johnny Munroe.
6. Michael Cassidy.
7. Conor Shields.
8. Ben McDonnell.
9. Conor McKenna (albeit gone back to Oz).
10. Tiarnán McCann.
11. Ronan O'Neill.
12. Matty Murnaghan.
13. Michael Conroy.
14. Daniel Kerr.
15. Connor McAlliskey.

Subs:
Conal Grimes.
Shea Hamill.
Ryan McCusker.
Seán Loughran.
Rory Donnelly.
Liam Nugent.
Ryan Coleman.

[tyrone86]

And how many of those two teams start if they're still in the squad? Any of them other than Rory Brennan and McNamee? Perhaps Mark Bradley but I don't think either Harte or Logan/Dooher started McCurry and Bradley in the same team too often. Perhaps Paul Donaghy might have a better chance to establish himself now McKenna is back in Australia but outside those I don't see it.
Depth is an issue but lets not kid ourselves that there are loads of game changers being overlooked in club football. There's a great crop of under 20s coming over the next couple of seasons but they're a few seasons from making a major impact at senior level.

[Tyrone Dreamer]

If Tyrone could get a team like this fit and on the pitch it's much stronger than those listed:

N Morgan
C Quinn
P Hampsey
A Clarke
M McKernan
P Harte
C Meyler
C Kilpatrick
B Kennedy
K McGeary
D Canavan
J Oguz
D McCurry
C McShane
F Burns (dropping into half back line)

[irishgael11]

1    Michael O'Neill
2    Peter Teague
3    Ronan McNamee
4    Hugh Pat McGeary
5    Tiarnan McCann
6    Rory Brennan
7    Michael Cassidy
8    Ben McDonnell
9    Padraig McNulty
10    Niall Sludden
11    Richard Donnelly
12    Conor McKenna
13    Mark Bradley
14    Paul Donaghy
15    Conor McAliskey
   
16    Mc Anenley
17    Cormac Munroe
18    Liam Rafferty
19    Conor Quinn
20    Nathan Donnelly
21    Johnny Munroe
22    Conor Shields
23    Emmett McNabb
24    Michael Conroy
25    Ronan O'Neill
26    Lee Brennan

I would give that team every chance against our first 26

[Tyrone11234]

If Tyrone could get a team like this fit and on the pitch it's much stronger than those listed:

N Morgan
C Quinn
P Hampsey
A Clarke
M McKernan
P Harte
C Meyler
C Kilpatrick
B Kennedy
K McGeary
D Canavan
J Oguz
D McCurry
C McShane
F Burns (dropping into half back line)

Peter Harte is finished

[Goals_Will_Come]

1. Niall Morgan
2. Aidan Clarke
3. Padraig Hampsey
4. Michael McKernan
5. Frank Burns
6. Tarlach Quinn
7. Peter Harte
8. Brian Kennedy
9. Conn Kilpatrick
10. Sean O'Donnell
11. Joe Oguz
12. Ruairi Canavan
13. Darren McCurry
14. Cathal McShane
15. Darragh Canavan

17. Mattie Donnelly
18. Conor Meyler
19. Kieran McGeary
20. Michael O'Neill
What I expect for NFL, assuming Oguz, McShane and Burns are fit and that Mattie, McGeary and Meyler are injured.
Would this team beat Roscommon and stay in Division 1 if Mattie, Meyler and McGeary miss the majority?

Against:
1. Benny Gallen
2. Peter Teague
3. Ronan McNammee
4. Liam Rafferty
5. Michael Cassidy
6. Rory Brennan
7. Tiernan McCann
8. Padraig McNulty
9. Richie Donnelly
10. Declan McClure
11. Mark Bradley
12. Niall Sludden
13. Lee Brennan
14. Paul Donaghy
15. Conor McAliskey

17. Michael Conroy
18. Ben McDonnell
19. Johnny Munroe
20. Cormac Munroe

[trailer]

1. Niall Morgan
2. Aidan Clarke
3. Padraig Hampsey
4. Michael McKernan
5. Frank Burns
6. Tarlach Quinn
7. Peter Harte
8. Brian Kennedy
9. Conn Kilpatrick
10. Sean O'Donnell
11. Joe Oguz
12. Ruairi Canavan
13. Darren McCurry
14. Cathal McShane
15. Darragh Canavan

17. Mattie Donnelly
18. Conor Meyler
19. Kieran McGeary
20. Michael O'Neill
What I expect for NFL, assuming Oguz, McShane and Burns are fit and that Mattie, McGeary and Meyler are injured.
Would this team beat Roscommon and stay in Division 1 if Mattie, Meyler and McGeary miss the majority?

Against:
1. Benny Gallen
2. Peter Teague
3. Ronan McNammee
4. Liam Rafferty
5. Michael Cassidy
6. Rory Brennan
7. Tiernan McCann
8. Padraig McNulty
9. Richie Donnelly
10. Declan McClure
11. Mark Bradley
12. Niall Sludden
13. Lee Brennan
14. Paul Donaghy
15. Conor McAliskey

17. Michael Conroy
18. Ben McDonnell
19. Johnny Munroe
20. Cormac Munroe

Some of these lads are 30+ ffs. McClure? McNulty? Lee Brennan? They never did it when they had a chance in their 20's and now you think they could come back and lord it over established county men? Lets bring back Finbar McConnell, Chris Lawn and Adrian Cush when we're at it sure.
Have a day off.

[Goals_Will_Come]

Some of these lads are 30+ ffs. McClure? McNulty? Lee Brennan? They never did it when they had a chance in their 20's and now you think they could come back and lord it over established county men? Lets bring back Finbar McConnell, Chris Lawn and Adrian Cush when we're at it sure.
Have a day off.

I think the point being made overall is that the current standard of the senior squad isn't much different to the players who are not on the panel. You could take a number of players (fringe panel players, sub players, borderline starting) and replace them with players not or no longer on the panel and not make the squad any worse of. For example at present going into the 2024 League - Lee Brennan or Conor Cush, Michael Cassidy or Michael O'Neill, Mark Bradley or Ruairi Canavan, Paul Donaghy or Cathal McShane, Peter Teague or Cormac Quinn.

[Mikhailov]

A lot of the lads mentioned all already have an AI medal in the back pocket and are possibly happy with their lot. One thing stands out however is the age profile of the lads who stepped away for whatever reason

The reality (like it or not) is that county football appears to be a serious life style choice when you are involved and obviously an even harder choice when you are not in the 15 every week.

County football career is getting shorter due to the commitment and sacrifice involved.

Some of the lads listed above are serious footballers and could get on the first 15 but for whatever reason they stepped away, unfortunately.

[HokeyPokey]

I think this talk of retirements and withdrawals is a bit tiring. There's plenty of good footballer and I don't think they players who would significantly improve Tyrone on what's there now. There's a few more standout players, but while Sludden and to a much lesser extent, Richie Donnelly have proven their worth, they are in the way of other players potentially making a step up.

I think the lack of commitment of L Brennan and Donaghy is disappointing, but they were given a decent amount of chances and there are good players in their position. I think the point about players having a different temperament is true to a certain extent, but that's the same case for every county. We shouldn't forget a lot of the 00s legends retired quite early and I just think these amateurs are realising that there's more to life, especially if they are bench warming and can't play football (definitely needs to be a rethink about releasing non-key players).

[marty34]

A lot of the lads mentioned all already have an AI medal in the back pocket and are possibly happy with their lot. One thing stands out however is the age profile of the lads who stepped away for whatever reason

The reality (like it or not) is that county football appears to be a serious life style choice when you are involved and obviously an even harder choice when you are not in the 15 every week.

County football career is getting shorter due to the commitment and sacrifice involved.

Some of the lads listed above are serious footballers and could get on the first 15 but for whatever reason they stepped away, unfortunately.

Is it?

On the other side of the story you have lads like Mc Manus, T.J. Reid and Mc Kaigue etc. who have looked after themselves very well and are still going strong.

I think it all depends on the mentality.

[NotedObserver]

A lot of the lads mentioned all already have an AI medal in the back pocket and are possibly happy with their lot. One thing stands out however is the age profile of the lads who stepped away for whatever reason

The reality (like it or not) is that county football appears to be a serious life style choice when you are involved and obviously an even harder choice when you are not in the 15 every week.

County football career is getting shorter due to the commitment and sacrifice involved.

Some of the lads listed above are serious footballers and could get on the first 15 but for whatever reason they stepped away, unfortunately.

Is it?

On the other side of the story you have lads like Mc Manus, T.J. Reid and Mc Kaigue etc. who have looked after themselves very well and are still going strong.

I think it all depends on the mentality.

Plenty of players playing into 30s on other sides. Karl O'Connell one of the stand out half backs last year a prime example