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11 whole pages. Dublin and Kerry ones keeping their cards close.

[I really think that there needs to be change soon. BR is not the man.]

The reality is that the British teams as a whole,  and I include the great 1 horse race team in that, are not good enough for Europe.  Now if they treat the home games like PL games and put out stronger teams then we could win this competition but I really think that there needs to be change soon.  BR is not the man.

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Unfortunately I agree with you. I hoped he would really turn the screw in the pre season and have a go with an up-tempo pressing, aggressive game. Instead it's pedestrian, slow, and dare I say it, cowardly. Players like Ibe and Lallana, are just hesitant in possession, looking for the easy option. It was striking that the first time Lallana went instinctively, because he was under pressure, he produced something really good. That shows that he has some talent, but they seem to be wearing a strait jacket at the moment. The contrast when someone like Coutinho gets the ball and shows positivity, because it hasn't been drained from him yet, is marked. It's so stagnant, predictable and slow with the other players, and thats the way it was last year too. It's a pity, but I think Rodgers has lost confidence in himself, and the team, and is trying to scrape through. That's not a sustainable approach.

No-one would suggest Liverpool are world beaters, but they have good players, and a change in mentality and approach to the games would lead to significantly better performances I think.

Agree with all of this. The term cowardly sprang to my mind after the Man u game.  The players were cowardly in possession in going for the safe option at all times, and Brendan was cowardly in his approach to the game.  The likes of Swansea go to OT and have a go but he apparently didn't rate our chances on Saturday.  I think his fear transmitted to the players and they were scared to pass the ball. 

Saurez dragged this team along with him.  The overall drop in intensity, pressing and speed of play is amazing since he left.  Suarez offered a directness to the play that i'm not sure Brendan would have come up with otherwise.  It shows how one truly world class player can be the difference between first/second or 7th in this league.  Says a lot really about the quality of the PL.

Or the quality of Suarez

What did you win with Suarez?

I'm sure you get the point!

[I really think that there needs to be change soon. BR is not the man.]

The reality is that the British teams as a whole,  and I include the great 1 horse race team in that, are not good enough for Europe.  Now if they treat the home games like PL games and put out stronger teams then we could win this competition but I really think that there needs to be change soon.  BR is not the man.

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Unfortunately I agree with you. I hoped he would really turn the screw in the pre season and have a go with an up-tempo pressing, aggressive game. Instead it's pedestrian, slow, and dare I say it, cowardly. Players like Ibe and Lallana, are just hesitant in possession, looking for the easy option. It was striking that the first time Lallana went instinctively, because he was under pressure, he produced something really good. That shows that he has some talent, but they seem to be wearing a strait jacket at the moment. The contrast when someone like Coutinho gets the ball and shows positivity, because it hasn't been drained from him yet, is marked. It's so stagnant, predictable and slow with the other players, and thats the way it was last year too. It's a pity, but I think Rodgers has lost confidence in himself, and the team, and is trying to scrape through. That's not a sustainable approach.

No-one would suggest Liverpool are world beaters, but they have good players, and a change in mentality and approach to the games would lead to significantly better performances I think.

Agree with all of this. The term cowardly sprang to my mind after the Man u game.  The players were cowardly in possession in going for the safe option at all times, and Brendan was cowardly in his approach to the game.  The likes of Swansea go to OT and have a go but he apparently didn't rate our chances on Saturday.  I think his fear transmitted to the players and they were scared to pass the ball. 

Saurez dragged this team along with him.  The overall drop in intensity, pressing and speed of play is amazing since he left.  Suarez offered a directness to the play that i'm not sure Brendan would have come up with otherwise.  It shows how one truly world class player can be the difference between first/second or 7th in this league.  Says a lot really about the quality of the PL.

2 more years of stagnation,boorishness,players walking away from the panel,childishly ignoring our national broadcaster! Yes it's great news,for every other county in Ireland

At least we're not complete and utter shite like the Buckfast brigade

Buckfast is a beverage only enjoyed by a certain uncouth element from North Armagh, I've seen a few bottles amongst Tyrone fans as well. Most Armagh fans enjoy a good vintage cava or a nice rioja. Although on a good day some might partake of a cool glass of Armagh cider with ice.

Judging by the jealousy emanating over the Blackwater since 2003 as your more illustrious and eminent neighbours racked up successes while you apple munchers found your true level, your favourite tipple seems to be whine made from extremely sour grapes 

O'Neill's to blame for this apple muncher buckfast drinking imagery. 

Sorry to see that injury to Shaw. Not something you want to see on a football pitch. Will be a long hard road back for him but hopefully he'll be ok.

Although it was a defeat I thought Man u were much improved last night than what we've seen for a while.  Played the game at a much higher  tempo than has been the case under Van Gaal.  A wise move to take Fellani out of the no 9 role!

Stew - Man u were very poor in the first half.   Made a couple of switches and improved in the second. Deservedly won the game, but no great shakes. Liverpool supporters have sadly seen too much mediocrity from Liverpool teams over the years but Man u fans shouldn't be under any illusions -  this current side under Van Gal are a long long way from the standards of the recent past.

I'd be surprised if Corbyn is still leader in a couple of years.  Given his track record and contempt for all things establishment he probably doesn't really aspire to be PM anyway. It's much easier to stand on the fringes with a placard and be a renegade than actually take on the responsibility and pressure that goes with leadership, to try to make changes.  People who voted for him mustn't have been around in the early 1980s. He doesn't offer anything new or fresh, just tired rehashed old ideas that didn't wash with the general public back then.  Labour's current failing  is that the candidates standing against Corbyn were bland and uninspiring. The way forward for Labour is to weave their socialist values more subtly into plausible policies that resonate with Joe average.  It's possible to do that.

That doesn't need to be, or publicised as, an interview. It's demeaning that he would have to interview for his job. Who used the term 'interview'? By all means have a chat with him to plan 2016, and if big issues arise then, so be it, but to say you are interviewing him is a calculated insult in my opinion.

Agree totally.

It's only a matter of time before an English club come calling, probably a lower level premier club.  Seems a level headed guy unlike a certain incumbent at Liverpool and unlike Sanchez if an offer does come along he'll do the right thing and finish the job he's started. He deserves all the plaudits he'll get if he manages to take them to the euros.

This seems to be growing momentum. Due process is one thing  but it can be used as an excuse by county boards to force the manager's hand.  Can't see anything other than Harte continuing as manager but on the face of it his relationship with the board/chairwoman doesn't seem to be rock solid. Could be wrong, but that's how it's starting to look.

Harte was only appointed in the winter of 2002 and wasn't in charge when they won the league against Cavan in 2002.

Art and Eugene were booted out fairly sharpish after Armagh won the All-Ireland.   

It's going the way of Meath under Sean Boylan.  No one will want to be the one to challenge Harte while he still wants the job.  Would be silly to remove him after the run to the semis. Will be interesting next year to see how Tyrone do - usually seem to follow a good year with a dip the following  one.

Decent panel on the programme tonight and it was fairly balanced. However McStay claiming that McMahon tripped Boyle for the Mayo penalty was clearly nonsense that shouldn't have gone unchallenged. Also how can Whelan presume that Connolly has a chance of getting the red card rescinded. For me it is black and white. It was a clear punch/striking action to a man on the ground that got what he deserved.

Clear penalty.  McMahon stuck the leg out and the player went over it. No question imo.

The title could be beyond us after this result today.

Was beyond Liverpool before a ball was kicked this season.

Beaten 0-3 at home to West Ham United. Liverpool won't have many worse results all season.

Hmmm.