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Messages - Don Draper

#31
Laois / Re: Football Ref
September 30, 2019, 02:02:23 PM
Quote from: High Fielder on September 30, 2019, 01:22:57 PM
There's an undercurrent to your posts that doesn't sit well with me. It assumes that everything a ref does is sacrosanct. That isn't right either.

We're talking about yesterday's game and I have yet to see any abuse of Mick Tarpey on here. If there is, point it out to me, or else stop the waffling
You're talking online abuse.

I am not.
#32
Laois / Re: Football Ref
September 30, 2019, 01:08:30 PM
Quote from: High Fielder on September 30, 2019, 01:03:54 PM
I and many others have taken enough of your bile not to worry about what you call us.

Forced. Fines. Punishments. Seriously? What if nobody has the time or inclination to be a referee? What then?

For what it's worth, abuse these days is criticism. He has been criticised, not abused. We all get that in our daily working lives. Let's not get too soft centred here
What else is a fine execept forced? And I am referring to abuse not criticism. Calling a referee and f**king w**ker, a bollocks, chasing onto the field after him, following him to his car, thats not criticism and happens regularly on the pitches of Laois.

And I am serious, I'm serious about sorting out refereeing in this county. Punishing the clubs is the only way forward. The measures are already in place, and have been threatened repeatedly, its time to drop the hammer.

If nobody has the time or inclination to referee, then our games are finished. We should make it more hospitable for them to do so.

Abuse is criticism, f**king hell, we're at f**king nothing with that attitude.
#33
Laois / Re: Football Ref
September 30, 2019, 12:57:40 PM
Quote from: High Fielder on September 30, 2019, 12:48:53 PM
Quote from: Don Draper on September 30, 2019, 12:35:36 PM
Quote from: Batman!!! on September 30, 2019, 12:30:10 PM
What are the solutions? Every game we now have referees been abused
Put the focus on the clubs. Fine teams without mercy for abuse of referees. Punish clubs for not providing referees.

This is a voluntary organisation. Get a grip with your fines and punishments. Clown
And this is why we'll never have nice things.

Less of the name calling as well. I could call you names too if thats how you wish to proceed.

Clubs need to be forced into bringing their teams and supporters into line. Abuse of referees is out of control and the main reason we don't have ex players going into the role. Stop the abuse, and more will take the job.

But you keep calling names there, that'll help matters.
#34
Laois / Re: Laois Senior Football Championship 2019
September 30, 2019, 12:47:08 PM
Quote from: les Antiques on September 30, 2019, 12:40:34 PM
O'Moore Park needs a rest  . Overused this year .Having the replay set for Wednesday night in portlaoise again defies logic . The pitch needs a break clearly .
Could easily go somewhere like Cretty, Stradbally, or Port even.
#35
Laois / Re: Football Ref
September 30, 2019, 12:35:36 PM
Quote from: Batman!!! on September 30, 2019, 12:30:10 PM
What are the solutions? Every game we now have referees been abused
Put the focus on the clubs. Fine teams without mercy for abuse of referees. Punish clubs for not providing referees.
#36
Laois / Re: 2019 All-Ireland Senior Hurling Championship
September 30, 2019, 12:27:39 PM
Quote from: Zooming around on September 30, 2019, 12:21:11 PM
Really looking forward to these two semi finals on Sunday. They will be two crackers. Some outstanding talent and plenty of scoring potential on show.
I hope they have a pitch to suit their talents.
#37
Laois / Re: Football Ref
September 30, 2019, 12:27:18 PM
So what we have here is lots of criticisms and no solutions. Its like being at a County Board meeting.
#38
Laois / Re: Football Ref
September 30, 2019, 11:53:02 AM
Quote from: Batman!!! on September 30, 2019, 11:32:08 AM
I think LCB have lost 6 referees who done senior from last year. Hard to make that back up

It'll be very hard if the clubs don't make an effort

It'll also be very hard if the clubs don't clamp down themselves on abuse of referees.
#39
Laois / Re: Football Ref
September 30, 2019, 11:11:43 AM
Quote from: Neutralobserver on September 30, 2019, 11:03:13 AM
Quote from: Don Draper on September 30, 2019, 10:52:54 AM
Quote from: Neutralobserver on September 30, 2019, 10:52:06 AM
we do not want to put pressure on clubs to provide refs just for the sake of doing so.
Why not?
how good will they be? we cant force people to be refs? they need to want to do it themselves and have pride and an interest in it.
People need a push. They may not know they want to do it. The way we're doing it isn't working.
#40
Laois / Re: Football Ref
September 30, 2019, 10:52:54 AM
Quote from: Neutralobserver on September 30, 2019, 10:52:06 AM
we do not want to put pressure on clubs to provide refs just for the sake of doing so.
Why not?
#41
Laois / Re: Football Ref
September 30, 2019, 10:40:28 AM
Quote from: Portbush on September 30, 2019, 10:33:59 AM
We have 16 senior teams in laois and only 6 Ref that passed the fitness test to take control of all these games.2 of these Refs are port men. At the weekend one of these Refs was way out of his depth some of his decisions where so bad that you wonder did he have money on the game(which I doubt he had) we also have a celebrity Ref which he thinks the game is all about him. I know it's a thankless job.but for players to spend 3 nights a week training giving there time for club and county.To play the game they love it's hard to take for them.for me the Ref shouldn't be notice but when you walk out of O Moore Park the talk is all about the Ref.Is this only my opinion or what do ye guys think
I think the clubs should be much more active in encouraging former players to take up refereeing. Some clubs completely ignore it, and I would begin to impose sanctions on Clubs who don't provide referees to the County Board. I would take home games from them. We are at breaking point in Laois when it comes to referees, knifeing the ones we have will do f**k all good.

I'd also reduce the amount of senior clubs to 12 at the very least.
#42
Laois / Re: Laois Senior Football Championship 2019
September 30, 2019, 10:10:17 AM
Quote from: the sash on September 30, 2019, 10:09:47 AM
if mick tarpey was the sergeant in portarlington, would he have been allowed to ref that game yesterday?
Leave the mans work out of it, a foolish statement.
#43
Laois / Re: Laois Intermediate Football Championship 2019
September 30, 2019, 09:58:10 AM
Quote from: Tintin84 on September 30, 2019, 09:51:03 AM
6 subs were used by Rosenallis going by the reports so what base are they objecting on?
They lost and are pissed off?
#44
Laois / Re: Laois Senior Football Championship 2019
September 30, 2019, 09:44:38 AM
Quote from: High Fielder on September 30, 2019, 09:27:22 AM
Must have been an off day for him so  8) It's never justifiable for a coach to go on to the field of play and point the finger, but it was some mess at times.
Have you seen much of him? Any player who's played under him would speak highly of him. Anyone can have an off day, but he's much better than the vast majority of what we currently have. More referees coming into the game after finishing playing are to be commended, not chipped at online.
#45
Laois / Re: Laois Senior Football Championship 2019
September 30, 2019, 09:21:18 AM
Tarpey is a fine ref, I wouldn't be too hard on him. He's a wonderful addition to the scene.