China Coronavirus

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five points

Quote from: RadioGAAGAA on July 22, 2020, 02:07:28 PM
Given you replied to my reply about it being "a global nursing / care home pandemic" I don't believe that is an unfair connection to make.

Fair enough to make the connection not to put words in  my mouth.

"disasters in Lombardy and the NY/NJ/CT/MA were predominantly a result of hospital/"care" home maladministration and negligence" does not equate to "it only being a "care home pandemic" if no action were taken."

highorlow

Based on the construction site infection number and number of close contacts per individual is it true to say we will have a day this week where the number of new infections will be 80+ ?
They get momentum, they go mad, here they go

imtommygunn

Only just read about the building site there now after reading that comment. It'll be interesting to see now where that goes in the community etc. You would have to imagine that's spreading in the open air though I guess it depends how much distancing etc was going on. It would probably add fuel to the mask thing outdoors too I suspect.

marty34

What is the R number currently?

guy crouchback

Quote from: marty34 on July 23, 2020, 10:17:19 AM
What is the R number currently?

last week the R number was reported at between 1.4 and 1.8. however with case numbers so low the R number is now less relevant, the tyranny of small number as they say.

at present the best metric is the number of cases being admitted to firstly ICU and secondly to Hospital. at present both of these are very low.

remember ''flattening the curve''   the lock down ect was never about eliminating the virus, that would be impossible, but about protecting our hospital system.

the biggest threat now is not the virus per se but the dis-functionality of our health system.  yesterday for the first time since march there were people on trolleys in castlebar hospital, the same thing is now happening all over the country.
so soon we will be back to not being able to cope with ANY extra pressure on ICU.

Milltown Row2

Quote from: guy crouchback on July 23, 2020, 10:34:01 AM
Quote from: marty34 on July 23, 2020, 10:17:19 AM
What is the R number currently?

last week the R number was reported at between 1.4 and 1.8. however with case numbers so low the R number is now less relevant, the tyranny of small number as they say.

at present the best metric is the number of cases being admitted to firstly ICU and secondly to Hospital. at present both of these are very low.

remember ''flattening the curve''   the lock down ect was never about eliminating the virus, that would be impossible, but about protecting our hospital system.

the biggest threat now is not the virus per se but the dis-functionality of our health system.  yesterday for the first time since march there were people on trolleys in castlebar hospital, the same thing is now happening all over the country.
so soon we will be back to not being able to cope with ANY extra pressure on ICU.

Are they on trolleys due to Covid or have they been admitted with other problems?

With hospitals opening up now people may feel its time to head to A&E with conditions they felt needed looked at but during the pandemic felt its best to wait?
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought. Ea

guy crouchback

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 23, 2020, 10:47:41 AM
Quote from: guy crouchback on July 23, 2020, 10:34:01 AM
Quote from: marty34 on July 23, 2020, 10:17:19 AM
What is the R number currently?

last week the R number was reported at between 1.4 and 1.8. however with case numbers so low the R number is now less relevant, the tyranny of small number as they say.

at present the best metric is the number of cases being admitted to firstly ICU and secondly to Hospital. at present both of these are very low.

remember ''flattening the curve''   the lock down ect was never about eliminating the virus, that would be impossible, but about protecting our hospital system.

the biggest threat now is not the virus per se but the dis-functionality of our health system.  yesterday for the first time since march there were people on trolleys in castlebar hospital, the same thing is now happening all over the country.
so soon we will be back to not being able to cope with ANY extra pressure on ICU.

Are they on trolleys due to Covid or have they been admitted with other problems?

With hospitals opening up now people may feel its time to head to A&E with conditions they felt needed looked at but during the pandemic felt its best to wait?

not covid related other stuff, there are no covid cases in castlebar. in fact i think mayo has only had 1 case (louisburg footballer?) in the last 3 weeks plus.

exactly so its just going back to what it was before except it will probably be worse than before as a lot of people will have put off stuff that now has to be dealt with.

marty34

Quote from: guy crouchback on July 23, 2020, 11:06:41 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 23, 2020, 10:47:41 AM
Quote from: guy crouchback on July 23, 2020, 10:34:01 AM
Quote from: marty34 on July 23, 2020, 10:17:19 AM
What is the R number currently?

last week the R number was reported at between 1.4 and 1.8. however with case numbers so low the R number is now less relevant, the tyranny of small number as they say.

at present the best metric is the number of cases being admitted to firstly ICU and secondly to Hospital. at present both of these are very low.

remember ''flattening the curve''   the lock down ect was never about eliminating the virus, that would be impossible, but about protecting our hospital system.

the biggest threat now is not the virus per se but the dis-functionality of our health system.  yesterday for the first time since march there were people on trolleys in castlebar hospital, the same thing is now happening all over the country.
so soon we will be back to not being able to cope with ANY extra pressure on ICU.

Are they on trolleys due to Covid or have they been admitted with other problems?

With hospitals opening up now people may feel its time to head to A&E with conditions they felt needed looked at but during the pandemic felt its best to wait?

not covid related other stuff, there are no covid cases in castlebar. in fact i think mayo has only had 1 case (louisburg footballer?) in the last 3 weeks plus.

exactly so its just going back to what it was before except it will probably be worse than before as a lot of people will have put off stuff that now has to be dealt with.

There must be some backlog of appointments in hospitals now in regards to everything: checkups, operations and outpatients etc. 

There was some queue before March but what'll it not be like now?

Rossfan

And less space in the Hospitals to deal with that backlog.
Davy's given us a dream to cling to
We're going to bring home the SAM

armaghniac

Quote from: guy crouchback on July 23, 2020, 11:06:41 AM
not covid related other stuff, there are no covid cases in castlebar. in fact i think mayo has only had 1 case (louisburg footballer?) in the last 3 weeks plus.

One case is always a bit odd as he must have got it from somebody.
If at first you don't succeed, then goto Plan B

marty34

Quote from: Rossfan on July 23, 2020, 11:34:07 AM
And less space in the Hospitals to deal with that backlog.

Very true.

If you're waiting on a hip replacement etc. you could be waiting a long long time now.

imtommygunn

Killeavy have a positive test now too. Turning into a right old mess.

marty34

#6852
Quote from: imtommygunn on July 23, 2020, 01:30:02 PM
Killeavy have a positive test now too. Turning into a right old mess.

The GAA should have put out a statement in April saying no GAA for the year.

It's only going to get worse as things open up.

Denn Forever

These masks that have  activated carbon filters.  Are they single use  cos how do you reactivate them?
I have more respect for a man
that says what he means and
means what he says...

Jeepers Creepers

Quote from: marty34 on July 23, 2020, 01:39:19 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on July 23, 2020, 01:30:02 PM
Killeavy have a positive test now too. Turning into a right old mess.

IGAA ahould have put out a statement in April saying no GAA for the year.

It's only going to get worse as things open up.

+1000