China Coronavirus

[Eire90]

Theres an epidemic of facebook experts and they are being glorified within the community.

[Ed Ricketts]

The speculation on the move to Level 5 is a bit odd when you consider only on Thursday NPHET said the situation did not support a nationwide move to Level 3. Maybe a bit of clarity will brought forward at this evenings press conference.

I also believe some of involved in this pandemic are using it to boost their profile for later on. I would hope not, but there is something telling me these names that are involved and involved very publicly are doing so for reasons, not entirely 'for the good of the people'. Just a little thing I get with some.

Yep.

https://twitter.com/ProfKarolSikora
https://twitter.com/carlheneghan
https://dolorescahill.com/

Amazing the attention and adulation being a contrary cnut can offer when compared to a lifetime of underwhelming scientific endeavour.

[armaghniac]

616 new cases of #covid19 in N. Ireland.

Previous Mondays

Sept 28th:    +220
Sept 21st:    +125
Sept 14th:   +109
Sept 7th:     +141
Aug 31st:     +58
Aug 24th:    +10
Aug 17th:    +39
Aug 10th:    +76

Seven day rate per 100,000
NI Average: 192.9

Derry & Strabane: 533.6
Newry, M & Down: 321.3
Belfast: 241.2
Mid Ulster: 185.7
Antrim & Newtownabbey:117.1
Lisburn & Castlereagh: 116.4
Armagh, B & Craigavon: 116.1
Fermanagh & Omagh: 115.6

[Fear Bun Na Sceilpe]

Michelle O'Neill has basically said this too. 100% true. It's much worse up north too in terms of per capita etc.

nobody listens to her anymore, she is more interested in using the pandemic to score political points. the funeral was the end of her credibility

[Cunny Funt]

616 new cases of #covid19 in N. Ireland.

Previous Mondays

Sept 28th:    +220
Sept 21st:    +125
Sept 14th:   +109
Sept 7th:     +141
Aug 31st:     +58
Aug 24th:    +10
Aug 17th:    +39
Aug 10th:    +76

Seven day rate per 100,000
NI Average: 192.9

Derry & Strabane: 533.6
Newry, M & Down: 321.3
Belfast: 241.2
Mid Ulster: 185.7
Antrim & Newtownabbey:117.1
Lisburn & Castlereagh: 116.4
Armagh, B & Craigavon: 116.1
Fermanagh & Omagh: 115.6

Level 4 category there. What is the hospital numbers?

[gallsman]

Almost hope for Level 5 just to allow that bitter **** Ewan MacKenna more rope to hang himself with.

[imtommygunn]

That's missing causeway is it or it incorporated in one of the other areas?

There's 12 in total in the north in ICU and 64 in the inpatients. I dunno if that means 64 in total - I would assume 76 in total and inpatients and ICU are completely separate things.

https://app.powerbi.com/view?r=eyJrIjoiZGYxNjYzNmUtOTlmZS00ODAxLWE1YTEtMjA0NjZhMzlmN2JmIiwidCI6IjljOWEzMGRlLWQ4ZDctNGFhNC05NjAwLTRiZTc2MjVmZjZjNSIsImMiOjh9

[Fear Bun Na Sceilpe]

Michelle O'Neill has basically said this too. 100% true. It's much worse up north too in terms of per capita etc.

nobody listens to her anymore, she is more interested in using the pandemic to score political points. the funeral was the end of her credibility

That would be foolish because she may still make valid points. This one in particular is one.

Yeah it is pity.
It is what it is. Rife here in Derry. The bars have been rammed, house parties have been common and some workplaces not taking proper precautions.

[armaghniac]

That's missing causeway is it or it incorporated in one of the other areas?

There's 12 in total in the north in ICU and 64 in the inpatients. I dunno if that means 64 in total - I would assume 76 in total and inpatients and ICU are completely separate things.

https://app.powerbi.com/view?r=eyJrIjoiZGYxNjYzNmUtOTlmZS00ODAxLWE1YTEtMjA0NjZhMzlmN2JmIiwidCI6IjljOWEzMGRlLWQ4ZDctNGFhNC05NjAwLTRiZTc2MjVmZjZjNSIsImMiOjh9

It wouldn't surprise me if a significant number were admitted to hospital today, not being absolutely critical at that point they would not have gone in on Sunday.

[highorlow]

31 outbreaks in nursing homes, we are back to square 1.

It's not fair on older people when some of the same HSE staff that are carrying out the swab tests are also doing home help to our elders in the evenings.

That's a risky use of staff by the HSE.

[JoG2]

Michelle O'Neill has basically said this too. 100% true. It's much worse up north too in terms of per capita etc.

nobody listens to her anymore, she is more interested in using the pandemic to score political points. the funeral was the end of her credibility

That would be foolish because she may still make valid points. This one in particular is one.

Yeah it is pity.
It is what it is. Rife here in Derry. The bars have been rammed, house parties have been common and some workplaces not taking proper precautions.

Would listen to Michelle before binlids like Anne McCloskey.. A dangerous woman to heed during a pandemic, pity many Derry people are

[bennydorano]

Almost hope for Level 5 just to allow that bitter **** Ewan MacKenna more rope to hang himself with.

And him in Portugal too

[lfdown2]

616 new cases of #covid19 in N. Ireland.

Previous Mondays

Sept 28th:    +220
Sept 21st:    +125
Sept 14th:   +109
Sept 7th:     +141
Aug 31st:     +58
Aug 24th:    +10
Aug 17th:    +39
Aug 10th:    +76

Seven day rate per 100,000
NI Average: 192.9

Derry & Strabane: 533.6
Newry, M & Down: 321.3
Belfast: 241.2
Mid Ulster: 185.7
Antrim & Newtownabbey:117.1
Lisburn & Castlereagh: 116.4
Armagh, B & Craigavon: 116.1
Fermanagh & Omagh: 115.6

Hospital Inpatients

05/10/20   64
28/09/20   82
21/09/20   59
14/09/20   57
07/09/20   44
31/08/20   51

Are case numbers comparable? Has testing (at the current level) been constant for long enough to use as a barometer.

Surely it is hospitalisations and deaths which are the best comparisons? In the '1st wave' we have no idea how many cases there were.

[Ed Ricketts]

That's missing causeway is it or it incorporated in one of the other areas?

There's 12 in total in the north in ICU and 64 in the inpatients. I dunno if that means 64 in total - I would assume 76 in total and inpatients and ICU are completely separate things.

https://app.powerbi.com/view?r=eyJrIjoiZGYxNjYzNmUtOTlmZS00ODAxLWE1YTEtMjA0NjZhMzlmN2JmIiwidCI6IjljOWEzMGRlLWQ4ZDctNGFhNC05NjAwLTRiZTc2MjVmZjZjNSIsImMiOjh9

12 in ICU with COVID today.
Double the number from last Monday.
Six times the number from 3 Mondays ago.

Clear and scary trend here. Just 20 free beds, at the current rate these will be filled within the fortnight.

[Angelo]

There's two ways of looking at it. We are 7/8 months into this now, messaging from governments on both sides of the border has been poor, people are getting frustrated and agitated about how slow moving things are. Science looks every bit as clueless as they did at the start, they have yet to establish any real definitive idea on how our immunity is to it, how it is spread, what % of people are asymptomatic.

Governments have reacted poorly, we are now in the second wave and how have we improved in hospital capacity, testing and other resources from the start?

At the end of the day, there is one metric that will judge Covid, deaths. And at the minute the while the cases seem to be on the rise, deaths don't seem to be following that trend. That is probably in large down to the fact it's a younger/healthier demographic picking it up. Can you blame youngsters, we all look back at our youth and the freedom with it, we never had to live those years in a pandemic. After 7 or 8 months they are now saying screw it, it's not good but you can understand it.

The real issue is that science is being shown up here, it is chasing its tail around the place and still unable to give clear answers on basic aspects of the virus - immunity, anitbodies, % of asymptomatic etc.

When it turns out that the smartest kid in the class is a dunce then we are in trouble.