Ulster club championship

Started by charlieTully, October 30, 2022, 10:45:28 PM

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clarshack

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Quote from: Armagh18 on November 29, 2022, 10:44:14 AM
Quote from: general_lee on November 29, 2022, 10:39:22 AM
Another county that lets division 1 clubs play intermediate.
Yeah really don't agree with this.

Arva will play Division 1 and Junior Championship in Cavan next season. They were favourites for Junior this year by all accounts but obviously Drumlane beat them in the final, and Arva and Drumlane both finished on the same points at the top of Division 2. Is it also a case that there are Division 3 teams playing in the Intermediate championship in Cavan? has a Division 3 team played in the senior championship?

thewobbler

Quote from: general_lee on November 29, 2022, 10:39:22 AM
Another county that lets division 1 clubs play intermediate.

This was a recent development (max 1 team got "relegated") to IFC to compensate a lack of promotion / relegation during covid, then a somewhat brutal restructure to 10 team divisions. Technically a D1 team could end up in the IFC until this measure is displaced, but it's on the south side of unlikely for the foreseeable.

general_lee

Quote from: thewobbler on November 29, 2022, 11:06:24 AM
Quote from: general_lee on November 29, 2022, 10:39:22 AM
Another county that lets division 1 clubs play intermediate.

This was a recent development (max 1 team got "relegated") to IFC to compensate a lack of promotion / relegation during covid, then a somewhat brutal restructure to 10 team divisions. Technically a D1 team could end up in the IFC until this measure is displaced, but it's on the south side of unlikely for the foreseeable.
Fair enough, maybe not in the same league as Cavan when it comes to taking the piss.

Cavan19

Quote from: general_lee on November 29, 2022, 12:12:49 PM
Quote from: thewobbler on November 29, 2022, 11:06:24 AM
Quote from: general_lee on November 29, 2022, 10:39:22 AM
Another county that lets division 1 clubs play intermediate.

This was a recent development (max 1 team got "relegated") to IFC to compensate a lack of promotion / relegation during covid, then a somewhat brutal restructure to 10 team divisions. Technically a D1 team could end up in the IFC until this measure is displaced, but it's on the south side of unlikely for the foreseeable.
Fair enough, maybe not in the same league as Cavan when it comes to taking the piss.

I think it has been said here before that Arva had 2 years of players travelling and injuries that brought them from Division 1 down to Division 3 and Junior Championship. They have the players back and have made there way back to Division 1 but haven't been able to get out of Junior.

It's nothing to do with taking the piss it's up to them to win Junior to get out of it as we don't promote teams up Championship grades unless they earn it and that is by winning it.

general_lee

Which is taking the piss.
If you're good enough to get into Division 1 in the league you should forfeit your Junior/intermediate status. Imagine playing Cavan Gaels, Kingscourt Stars etc all year and then limbering up to play Drung in the championship. Farcical.

clarshack

Quote from: Cavan19 on November 29, 2022, 12:38:15 PM
Quote from: general_lee on November 29, 2022, 12:12:49 PM
Quote from: thewobbler on November 29, 2022, 11:06:24 AM
Quote from: general_lee on November 29, 2022, 10:39:22 AM
Another county that lets division 1 clubs play intermediate.

This was a recent development (max 1 team got "relegated") to IFC to compensate a lack of promotion / relegation during covid, then a somewhat brutal restructure to 10 team divisions. Technically a D1 team could end up in the IFC until this measure is displaced, but it's on the south side of unlikely for the foreseeable.
Fair enough, maybe not in the same league as Cavan when it comes to taking the piss.

I think it has been said here before that Arva had 2 years of players travelling and injuries that brought them from Division 1 down to Division 3 and Junior Championship. They have the players back and have made there way back to Division 1 but haven't been able to get out of Junior.

It's nothing to do with taking the piss it's up to them to win Junior to get out of it as we don't promote teams up Championship grades unless they earn it and that is by winning it.

will Arva be favourites again next year? or is there a better team dropping down from the Intermediate championship?

Cavan19

Quote from: general_lee on November 29, 2022, 12:52:32 PM
Which is taking the piss.
If you're good enough to get into Division 1 in the league you should forfeit your Junior/intermediate status. Imagine playing Cavan Gaels, Kingscourt Stars etc all year and then limbering up to play Drung in the championship. Farcical.

It is what it is though you need to win it or go to the county board and get the clubs the vote to move you up or down grades.


Cavan19

Quote from: clarshack on November 29, 2022, 12:57:51 PM
Quote from: Cavan19 on November 29, 2022, 12:38:15 PM
Quote from: general_lee on November 29, 2022, 12:12:49 PM
Quote from: thewobbler on November 29, 2022, 11:06:24 AM
Quote from: general_lee on November 29, 2022, 10:39:22 AM
Another county that lets division 1 clubs play intermediate.

This was a recent development (max 1 team got "relegated") to IFC to compensate a lack of promotion / relegation during covid, then a somewhat brutal restructure to 10 team divisions. Technically a D1 team could end up in the IFC until this measure is displaced, but it's on the south side of unlikely for the foreseeable.
Fair enough, maybe not in the same league as Cavan when it comes to taking the piss.

I think it has been said here before that Arva had 2 years of players travelling and injuries that brought them from Division 1 down to Division 3 and Junior Championship. They have the players back and have made there way back to Division 1 but haven't been able to get out of Junior.

It's nothing to do with taking the piss it's up to them to win Junior to get out of it as we don't promote teams up Championship grades unless they earn it and that is by winning it.

will Arva be favourites again next year? or is there a better team dropping down from the Intermediate championship?

They will be favourites again i think it was Killeshandra that got relegated and they are in bother.

Armagh18

Quote from: Cavan19 on November 29, 2022, 01:03:18 PM
Quote from: general_lee on November 29, 2022, 12:52:32 PM
Which is taking the piss.
If you're good enough to get into Division 1 in the league you should forfeit your Junior/intermediate status. Imagine playing Cavan Gaels, Kingscourt Stars etc all year and then limbering up to play Drung in the championship. Farcical.

It is what it is though you need to win it or go to the county board and get the clubs the vote to move you up or down grades.
Link league and championship, fairest way imo.

charlieTully

There is nothing to stop the ulster council banning teams from the junior competition unless they div 3/4 in respective counties. Junior in down is div 4. Then to play a div 1 club from cavan potentially. Ridiculous.

Cavan19

Quote from: charlieTully on November 29, 2022, 02:13:29 PM
There is nothing to stop the ulster council banning teams from the junior competition unless they div 3/4 in respective counties. Junior in down is div 4. Then to play a div 1 club from cavan potentially. Ridiculous.

If they can't win Junior in Cavan i don't think other clubs should be to bother.

imtommygunn

Lavey were banned from Ulster in the junior hurling. Not quite sure what the criteria was for them to get banned though.

meatsy86

Quote from: Truth hurts on November 29, 2022, 10:58:16 AM
Quote from: meatsy86 on November 29, 2022, 10:55:10 AM
Only 1 Div 1 club played in Intermediate Championship this year, Rostrevor and they didn't win it. Next year none of the clubs in Intermediate Championship will be playing Div 1 Football.

Is Rostrevor not still in it ?

No relegated to D2

Wildweasel74

Hard believe Lavey could enter Junior hurling, are they not a senior hurling team in Derry, they be very few teams below senior level in Derry,

Champion The Wonder Horse

Quote from: Wildweasel74 on November 29, 2022, 06:31:28 PM
Hard believe Lavey could enter Junior hurling, are they not a senior hurling team in Derry, they be very few teams below senior level in Derry,

I thought they were graded as intermediate and couldn't enter ulster junior.