County Manager Merry go round

[rodney trotter]

Tally was appointed very late. It was in November, then scrambling to get a backroom team. Derry were messing around going for unrealistic targets like James Horan and wasting time.

[Duine Inteacht Eile]

Eejits with notions. A squad that had fallen apart with a lot of miles on the clock that needs rebuilt while adjusting to new rules and which doesn't have the quality to glide through.

Tally did a decent job for the most part (some wobbles).

Aye, he did everything right except win a match.

Not that I'm blaming him. Nor do I think he should be got rid of. But not winning a match in a year is some "wobble".

I wasn't really thinking of results, some of the strategy/tactics mainly.

It was a clown show he stepped into with a squad that appeared up in the air after the previous regime, surely the county didn't expect to be winning Ulster/AI with a new manager and only a couple of months at the helm.

If it's purely a results business then 28 managers a year should be getting the boot.

I do think Tally's record as a no 2 exceeds his record as a manager by some
Margin though.

I'm reminded of David Moyes when sacked at Utd who said " if I'd known I'd only a season I'd have taken a very different approach"

It would be lunacy to expect that.

To expect to win a single match in an entire season is a different story though. There aren't 28 managers who have that stat hanging over them.

As I say, I don't blame him. He inherited a mess and needs a couple of years to sort out. To be honest, I thought they were a bit flash in the pan with the heights they previously reached anyway. But it was a poor year for Derry whatever way you look at it.

[JoG2]

Eejits with notions. A squad that had fallen apart with a lot of miles on the clock that needs rebuilt while adjusting to new rules and which doesn't have the quality to glide through.

Tally did a decent job for the most part (some wobbles).

Aye, he did everything right except win a match.

Not that I'm blaming him. Nor do I think he should be got rid of. But not winning a match in a year is some "wobble".

2 draws,9 defeats in 11 league and championship games under Tally. The two draws against Galway who were eventually taken out by Meath.

And your point is?

[Captain Obvious]

Eejits with notions. A squad that had fallen apart with a lot of miles on the clock that needs rebuilt while adjusting to new rules and which doesn't have the quality to glide through.

Tally did a decent job for the most part (some wobbles).

Aye, he did everything right except win a match.

Not that I'm blaming him. Nor do I think he should be got rid of. But not winning a match in a year is some "wobble".

2 draws,9 defeats in 11 league and championship games under Tally. The two draws against Galway who were eventually taken out by Meath.

And your point is?

A lot more than some wobbles.

[JoG2]

Eejits with notions. A squad that had fallen apart with a lot of miles on the clock that needs rebuilt while adjusting to new rules and which doesn't have the quality to glide through.

Tally did a decent job for the most part (some wobbles).

Aye, he did everything right except win a match.

Not that I'm blaming him. Nor do I think he should be got rid of. But not winning a match in a year is some "wobble".

2 draws,9 defeats in 11 league and championship games under Tally. The two draws against Galway who were eventually taken out by Meath.

And your point is?

A lot more than some wobbles.

McGeeney took, what 6 years to win a championship game. Never got Armagh promoted out of Div 2 in those years, that's wobble central and look what happened ..kneejerk from the CB, man deserved another year

[Wildweasel74]

I was at every Derry game this year (outside friendies) and his f**king around with the Goalkeepers cost Derry so many games. Still find it strange he away, as I seen no other option out there. Maybe should kept him another yr with Gilligan and Meenagh into his backroom team. But any manager who goes a year without a win gonna be under pressure. No idea who they lined up.

[Captain Obvious]

Eejits with notions. A squad that had fallen apart with a lot of miles on the clock that needs rebuilt while adjusting to new rules and which doesn't have the quality to glide through.

Tally did a decent job for the most part (some wobbles).

Aye, he did everything right except win a match.

Not that I'm blaming him. Nor do I think he should be got rid of. But not winning a match in a year is some "wobble".

2 draws,9 defeats in 11 league and championship games under Tally. The two draws against Galway who were eventually taken out by Meath.

And your point is?

A lot more than some wobbles.

McGeeney took, what 6 years to win a championship game. Never got Armagh promoted out of Div 2 in those years, that's wobble central and look what happened ..kneejerk from the CB, man deserved another year

McGeeney first came on board as Paul Grimley's coach on the team that lost the All Ireland Quarter final narrowly to Donegal in 2014.

Was it the Derry county board or the players responsible for allowing Mickey Harte leave after just one year? he led Derry to their first Divison one league title for 16 years and reached the last eight of the championship which was a decent job.  Nobody would have the opinion Harte did a  "decent job for the most part (some wobbles)" had he the record of Tally this year.

[tbrick18]

Eejits with notions. A squad that had fallen apart with a lot of miles on the clock that needs rebuilt while adjusting to new rules and which doesn't have the quality to glide through.

Tally did a decent job for the most part (some wobbles).

Aye, he did everything right except win a match.

Not that I'm blaming him. Nor do I think he should be got rid of. But not winning a match in a year is some "wobble".

2 draws,9 defeats in 11 league and championship games under Tally. The two draws against Galway who were eventually taken out by Meath.

And your point is?

A lot more than some wobbles.

McGeeney took, what 6 years to win a championship game. Never got Armagh promoted out of Div 2 in those years, that's wobble central and look what happened ..kneejerk from the CB, man deserved another year

McGeeney first came on board as Paul Grimley's coach on the team that lost the All Ireland Quarter final narrowly to Donegal in 2014.

Was it the Derry county board or the players responsible for allowing Mickey Harte leave after just one year? he led Derry to their first Divison one league title for 16 years and reached the last eight of the championship which was a decent job.  Nobody would have the opinion Harte did a  "decent job for the most part (some wobbles)" had he the record of Tally this year.

The difference with Harte was that he introduced his new tactics for the championship - which cost us big time. But rather than admit the mistake and revert back, he stuck to his guns and we were continually caught out in the same way time and again.
For the league win, the team was still playing they way they had been under RG/Meenagh. By the time championship came around, the tweaks were implemented and the stubbornness  or blindness to what was going wrong is what did for them.

Tally made his mistakes with the keeper, but when he realised it wasnt working, he tried to rectify it. Unfortunately Lynch got injured and the previous #2 keeper had gone travelling, leaving us with no option. Another keeper drafter in, again signs that Tally could see where the issues were and was trying to resolve. In my view, he was much better than Harte/Devlin.

Whilst he didnt win a game, I still took quite a few positives from the year. Young players blooded, injured players starting to return towards the end of the season had an obvious upturn in our performances and the players seemed to be pulling with him. I was quietly confident we'd have a much better 2026 with a much stronger panel. I think that why this comes as a bit of a shock - and I say all of that with being majorly disappointed when he was given the gig.

[Aaron Boone]

It's very fair to say that Derry had a serious 2026 ahead of them. Now the GAA world is in limbo, it did seem all the foundations were there.

[Wildweasel74]

Harte been stubborn,cost him.Played the goalkeeper in simply ridiculous positions on Opposition Kickouts, doing it once was bad enough but he repeated the same stupidity over the next 3 games, before reverting to a blanket defence when faced by Kerry, instead sorting the simple issue of keeping the keeper bck. Still players should over ride him, and told Lynch u don't go by the 45 on kickouts.

[armaghniac]

It's very fair to say that Derry had a serious 2026 ahead of them. Now the GAA world is in limbo, it did seem all the foundations were there.

Derry is like Casement Park.